Originally Posted by Never say never (Post 35277398)

I HAVE 50Mb and its fantastic for giving good results on speedtest.net.

Its useless if you use xboxlive,VOIP... <snip>

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35278184)

Been a lot of vm vans around recently (again?) but noticed that my ping has dropped notably to 10/11 ms or so

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/20.png

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35278287)

Same:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/19.png

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35278325)

Just out of curiosity, do you use internet explorer? because when i boot onto windows partition on my macbook pro, i get 5 ms latency to birmingham/manchester swell, I think it's a misread though as if you ping them using cmd it isn't that low

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35278536)

Can you post a speedtest result from windows IE please?


I personally use FireFox 7 and Safari occasionally.

IE is way too buggy and not stable enough.

I doubt it's misread. My friends on Xbox Live/PSN from other countries always comment how my connection is super low latency when i host...

I also always have the lowest pings on PC games such as CoD.

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35278672)

I will do when i've reinstalled the windows partition :) i've upgraded to lion so will be getting windows 7 to use the new bootcamp better.

Another from safari on my macbook
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/18.png

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35278690)

Ok Cool, look forward to seeing what speeds you get off IE (when are you installing Win7?).

This is from Safari (Previous one was FireFox 7) :


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/16.png

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/17.png


I guess too the Manchrester server off peak I can achieve ping time in Micro-Seconds, hence the 0ms ?

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279007)

Firefox 7 doesn't exist?

Also they are definitely misreads

Do a trace-route to google and put a screenshot on here (harder to tamper with results LOL)

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35279108)

FireFox 7 does exist, its called "Nightly"

They are not mis-reads.

I have been running speedtests to these servers since I have BT all those years ago and then Sky and Then Be*.

I can truely say they have been getting lower and lower as I have been moving to better suppliers.

Then when i went to Virgin in Feb 2008 they were at the lowest which you can see now.

Also my mate who lives 2 houses down (50 Mb) gets the same while my friend around a mile away gets just slightly higher (he is on 10 Mb).


Like I Said I always ping around 3 - 15ms on Call Of Duty and when I host on XBL and PSN even Americans say its extremely smooth.....

And I ping really low to pretty much every server in the world, I dont see how it can be "misread" as its a very simple and basic test plus backed up by me pinging servers for gaming and other peoples opinions while on my connection....

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279209)

0 ms is most definitely a misread.

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35279211)

Like I said, Off-Peak, its possible to have latency in the MircoSeconds when the server is pretty much in your back garden.

I Have seen a few 0ms results when the server is within 50 miles.

Mostly from Sweden.

I dont see how its misread, or else everyone else would get misread reading...

As you can see, almost 6pm, very busy period:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/14.png

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279212)

To back this up.

The speed of light, 299 792 458 M/s, the distance to the manchester server for you is around 50 miles or 80467M


80 467 / 299 792 458 = 0.00026840902

Aka. 2 milliseconds. meaning in an ideal world with absolutely no overheads or delays on the non fibre optic side of the cable network or delays on the network cards e.t.c you'd be able to get 2.6 ms latency to the server.

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35279216)

The server could be much closer.

I live almost next to the City Centre, most likely where the server is?

Or based around the Uni of Manchester which I know has a very powerful Inertnet Conection which also supplies a few collages.

Your looking at around 2 - 5 miles then....

Ive just looked on google and the company is 5.1 miles away....

So im guessing, doing the maths again means its 2 micro seconds or 0.2 ms ?

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35279216)

The server could be much closer.

I live almost next to the City Centre, most likely where the server is?

Or based around the Uni of Manchester which I know has a very powerful Inertnet Conection which also supplies a few collages.

Your looking at around 2 - 5 miles then....

Ive just looked on google and the company is 5.1 miles away....

So im guessing, doing the maths again means its 2 micro seconds or 0.2 ms ?

Which would explain why its "0ms" as speedtest rounds it down....

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279221)

Well believe what you wish I guess. I just know without a doubt it is a misread.

I mean the fact that pinging another computer over a crossover ethernet cable with no router between only just gets below 1 ms latency I just don't see it being accurate.

Macbook (2.13 ghz c2d, gb/s ethernet) linked directly to macbook pro (3.06 ghz c2d, gb/s ethernet)



Ping has started…

PING 192.168.0.1 (1.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 1.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.514 ms
64 bytes from 1.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.014 ms
64 bytes from 1.0.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.289 ms
64 bytes from 1.0.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.617 ms
64 bytes from 1.0.0.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.255 ms

--- 192.168.0.1 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 0.014/0.338/0.617/0.211 ms

---------- Post added at 18:03 ---------- Previous post was at 18:02 ----------



show me a ping test, and a trace-route to http://www.xilo.net which shows pings anywhere near that low then. if its not a misread they'll get the same results.

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35279226)

We can compare pingtest's if you want.

What do you get to maidenhead?

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279239)

no. I mean command line ping from your computer, not through an inaccurate flash web app

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35279241)

o_O

LoL, im not sure how :rolleyes:

You post on how to do it + screenshots and ill do the same ;-)


And Pingtest.co.uk uses Java BTW.

And I just wanted to see for comparison, No harm done eh.

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279209)

0 ms is most definitely a misread.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35279442)

Correct. Because of the way DOCSIS cable works, anything under 4-5 ms is pretty much impossible.

It doesn't matter how close the server is. You will never get a ping of "microseconds" on cable. Ever.

Those pings of <1ms in Sweden will have been on fibre, not HFC.

Web based pingtest apps are retarded and useless. Anyone with half a clue about networking knows this. Nothing new to see here, move along now.

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279265)

press start and in the search bar type "cmd" then when the box comes up type ping xilo.net or ping google.co.uk e.t.c

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35279265)

press start and in the search bar type "cmd" then when the box comes up type ping xilo.net or ping google.co.uk e.t.c

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35280153)

What do you get when you "ping bbc.co.uk" for comparison ?

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35280170)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/07/11.png

Take note that the packet size for my ping is twice the size :)

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35280175)

Do a ping to the cableforum.co.uk website, I presume that they only have 1 server, in 1 location compared to large sites like bbc e.t.c that will have load balancing over different servers.

Originally Posted by TJS (Post 35280175)

Do a ping to the cableforum.co.uk website, I presume that they only have 1 server, in 1 location compared to large sites like bbc e.t.c that will have load balancing over different servers.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35280334)

It won't.

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35286394)

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2012/01/94.png

Not superhub, not wireless.

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Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35286445)

I'd figure it'd make a change for the dozen or so crappy VM 50mb speedtests I've already posted in this thread. Everyone already knows my 50mb only does 20 most days.

Originally Posted by swiftflo (Post 35287142)

Help - how do I get the screenshot from my desktop into the forum ?.

Originally Posted by darren.b (Post 35287648)

Photobucket or something similar for hosting.

The quickest and easiest way to take a screen capture is to select the window on your desktop (click on it so it is active), Alt+PrintScreenSysRq, open Irfanview and paste it in there. If you don't have the freebie Irfanview...any image editor will probably work. To take a snapshot of your whole desktop, just press PrintScreenSysRq on it's own. Save the image somewhere on your machine and then upload it to photobucket. Copy and paste the image link for forums into your forum post. A forum link will start with [IMG] and end with [/IMG] remember to preview your post first so you know you did it right ;)

Originally Posted by internetuser (Post 35278536)

Can you post a speedtest result from windows IE please?


I personally use FireFox 7 and Safari occasionally.

IE is way too buggy and not stable enough.

I doubt it's misread. My friends on Xbox Live/PSN from other countries always comment how my connection is super low latency when i host...

I also always have the lowest pings on PC games such as CoD.