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Apparently, there's no logo on the dresses, but they've been at it before and, at least in Holland, everyone knows what the score is.

For your enjoyment, there's quite a funny video here.

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In the link you gave papa one South African was saying that the horn was to SA, as the rattle to England and the flares to Italy, the flaw in this argument is that neither the flares or rattle, which went out in the 60's IIRC, impeach on anybody elses enjoyment of the game.
As mentioned above by Daniel if the SA's want these horns then go mad at their games, I certainly don't see the need to blow them at every single game for the entire 90mins.
I just hope these things are a fad and are not introduced into our game in England...blimey you can tell when you are getting older, I seem to be turning into my father.:D

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Are there "any" less than gorgeous women in Holland?:D

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Barry to start against Algeria

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8743560.stm

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Fifa acts after ambush marketing by Dutch brewery

Should be interesting. Apparently, some 100,000 of these dresses have already been sold. I wonder if FIFA will do the same as 4 years ago, when some people wore orange lederhosen that (unlike these dresses) had BAVARIA on them. Fans were ordered to take them off, and some watched the game in their underwear... :)

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And it turns out Robbie Earle's sacking from ITV was a result of these Dutch 'beauties' have tickets from his allocation.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...s/10322048.stm

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Yep, same link as DocDutch gaveout in http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35041438-post189.html

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Oh dear. Switzerland go 1-0 up against Spain...

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I think gone are the days when the big teams are assured a win against the smaller teams

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wtf is happening... Spain lost how??? Brazil okay probably with their C team only put 2 goals into NK with getting 1 in their own net, none of the big clubs are playing that well other then the germans.

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That wasn't a Brazil C team, it's just Brazil under Dunga aren't the free flowing, beautiful game team which Brazil are reknowned for.

Like i've said before; minnows in international football are a rarity nowadays. The gap has closed and thank goodness.

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Very open WC so far.

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Anyone tried this ?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/5live/sport/worldcup/shootout/

I was England and was knocked out by Algeria, not an omen I hope :disturbd:

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And the past two days have been great. Good games and plenty of goals.

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so the 1st hattrick of the WC goes to ARGENTINA :( not bad going :) :D

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France. Arf! :D

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Viva la Mexico :D

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Poetic justice, the cheating frogs 99% certain to be on their way home, beaten by a team playing in green. :D

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bloody heck so whats the score... Spain lost 1st game, French are bloody hopeless, England hasnt performed great either... is there a team out there that is looking promising?

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:clap: Well done Mexico, after their England warm-up match I said that they might suprise a few people :clap:

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but Kymmy, both Holland and England beat Mexico. so I think more the surprise is how bad the french team has become. I think even a team like the Faroes would've beaten them.
Also look at their qualifiers they only got to the WC because of Henry's hand ball.

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The french are receiving justice. :D

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I never said the Mexicans would win the world cup ;) , but who'd have pegged them to beat France in such a convincing game..

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My prediction for tonight

3-1 to England :D

(which probably means that Algeria will win 6-0)

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would that be such a miss Kymmy ;)

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Well Ireland got a dodgy penalty in one of the qualifying games. England cheat as well. There are loads of dodgy calls in games, this one stood out because of the importance of it but who else knows what else could happen. It's not absolute, Ireland would still have needed to score a goal to qualify or it would have gone to penalties.

The French players are still quite good, the team isn't. The sooner Domenech goes the better for them.

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The ref in the Germany Serbia game is crap.

can a 10-man germany pull a goal back.

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And they could not but it wasn't for the want of trying.

Podolski should have done better with his penalty :mad:

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is it safe to watch the game in hd tonight .lol

the ghana v germany game could be a good game to watch if ghana beat australia tomorrow. as a england fan would like both us and germany to finish top of our groups so we miss each other next round

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But doubtful if England will finsh top, Slovenia won their first game and are 2-0 up in the USA game. Only saving grace is after Germany's performance they might not win their group either so that will suit England

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Bad refereeing cost Germany that match but all the real teams are losing their matches - due to dodgy balls probably, free kicks have been awesomely bad.

BBC are reporting that David James is 'likely' goalie tonight.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...10/8747673.stm

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dodgy balls, PMSL.. Any excuse.. ALL teams had access to the balls months and months ago

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The USA equalize. Good news for England if it stays this way.

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It was better for England if USA lost, we were literaly sure of 2nd place

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Apart from England who had theirs nicked.

p.s. USA wuz robbed too.

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Do you honestly think that the England team couldn't have gone out and got a set of balls within 24 hours?? Also they could have bought a set of footballs almost the same speed.. ;)

The USA/Slovenia game was great, fantastic comeback by the yanks and upto that point the Ref was doing great. Shame that one mistake can always ruin a match

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So if England lose tonight.....that's it?

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Yes. 'If' being the operative word.

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Nope, If England lose it'll be the following

The USA have 2 points, Slovenia 4 and Algeria 3 with England 1, USA though would have to lose and England would have to win thier last games by a convincing margin (two clear goals) for it to be

USA 2, Algeria 6 England 4 and Slovenia 4

with England going through on goal difference

Now would you like this girl to explain the off-side rule to ya :p:

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Don't be silly, but you are handy for explaining a tournament I have little interest in ;)

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:D :kiss: :D

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Looks like the slip up last week as cost Green dearly as he is dropped for tonights game. David James to take the helm.

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James was always the #1 keeper, will be interesting to know if his knee is 100%??

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And that sad fact sums up England's chances of any success in the tournament.

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They showed Green in training practising the exact same shot on goal and he missed it again :erm:

But having had calamity James in goal for us in the past, i'm not convinced he's better :rolleyes:

Anyhoos - let the drink begin to flow and COME ON ENGLAND!! :D

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Eng v Alg - What a load of rubbish so far.

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I wasn't too confident before the WC and now i've lost all spirit.

The wrong squad, the wrong positions, the wrong tactics, complete lack of organisation... and all points to the same thing: wrong manager.

Our qualification results flattered us. Everyone expected us to kick up a gear but we're going backwards.

It will be amazing if we make it out of the group stages at the moment.

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England certainly aren't playing like they give a toss about the WC. Either that or they're being ultra cautious.

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The most interesting thing so far has been the bird sitting on top of the goal.

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Come on ingerland

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I know they didnt win the prem but does anyone else wish it was Man Utd as England? The England team just never seem to gel :( I was hoping for 3-1 by this point. The players are meant to be the best the country has to offer but they just cant seem to work together. I still think we will go through though

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I was saying to the missus that if the England team was in the Premiership we would struggle to qualify for the Europa league.

And now I hear that SWP is coming on FFS. And now he's taking off Lennon who is our most productive player by a mile.

What a joke.

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How can anyone, even Capello say that the weakest link in the was Lennon? I am just flabbergasted.

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England are playing like they've only just been introduced to each other. What a shambles.

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I cannot say what I want here about Englands match:mad:

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And now Rooney is our LW.

He really has lost his marbles.

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As a neutral oops:
I think its amazing how the commentators have changed from this will be a pushover, Algeria are gash, this should be a walk in the park before the game to the current post mortem and discussing whats needed to get beyond the initial stage.

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I think they are more suprised than we are.

A team ranked 8-ish should not be worried by the likes of the USA, Algeria or Slovenia.

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Crap manager and a few good players who can not play as a team = England.

I would not be surprised if they fail to get out of the group

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Could well finish 2nd in the Group now.

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Awful, awful, awful.

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Oh dear England fail again, has Capello already booked the flight home for the 24th.

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What did Rooney say?

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you looking at me? calm down calm down lol

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To be fair they go down as one of the other European sides being crap at the moment. I think there might be some merit to the suggestions of season fatigue..

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Nice to have the Fans booing ya.

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think it was "nice to have your own fans booing ya" wasnt it?

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If I was in the crowd I wouldnt boo, what will it achieve? Will do more harm than good. I doubt anyone questioned the manager in quals, its the teams fault end of. Hes a world class manager

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Capello just gave an interview and he didn't appear to give a toss. Says it all really.

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The amount of times lampard, gerrad and rooney gave the ball away was shocking. There were times where they couldn't find a man 5 yards away. Surely noone can blame capello for that! What you can blame him for was not taking lamps off and replacing him with joe cole with 25 min to go.

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Rooney should STFU.

When fans pay thousands to travel around the world to see their team in a World Cup -and get that - they are entitled to boo. Its not all Rooney's fault but it's not like he was amazing either was it?

A joke to cheer us up:

The England team went to visit an orphanage in South Africa. "It's so good to put a smile on the faces of people with no hope, constantly struggling and facing the impossible".... said Jamal Mboto, aged 6.

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a waste of my time this was....

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I didnt say they werent entitled to boo but really what positive can it achieve? Its just stupid IMO yey lets demoralise a team that already dont seem to be playing well together :erm:

pmsl at the joke though :D

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It should be the kick up the arse that they need.

Sometimes you need to pat people on the back and say "there, there, never mind eh?" And sometimes you need to say "Buck your ideas up sunshine".

I think the blame ultimately lies up Capello's door, but even with a lousy manager the team should be able to carry themselves through to a point.

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I think this shows what Capello thought about the match.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2010/06/53.jpg

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DocDutch gets so upset he turns into Yoda....

One more poor performance and life can carry on as normal again a bit earlier than expected, which is nice :)

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I used to be in EnglandFans and followed them round on their various qualifying campaings, but I gave up after that fateful night when McLaren watched from the comfort of his umbrella as we failed to qualify for Euro 2008. I have booed at a couple England games and I wouldn't have a go at anyone else after a display like that tonight. You forget that many of the fans there have had to go to some really crappy places and spend a lot of money doing it to get enough caps to get World Cup Final tickets. When they get these tickets, they then spend even more money travelling in the hope of seeing England put on a performance and at least go down fighting. It's not easy following England and it costs in time, money and effort on the parts of those fans. Tonight there was hardly any fight until the last 10 minutes and that wasn't much of a fight either. Tonight, I thanked God that I hadn't carried on and spent good money to watch that match. That is possibly the worst performance I've seen from England in a very long time.

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Algeria beat West Germany in the World Cup in 1982.

http://www.planetworldcup.com/CUPS/1...alg_v_ger.html

The Germans went on and got through to the final.

No. It doesn't make me feel any better either :erm:

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I know what will cheer me up after that performance.... A post by arthur commenting on the game, lol.

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We won't be going anywhere if we keep playing like that and I hate to say it, but Rooney should have been taken off tonight. Every time he touched the ball it pinged off him like he'd never played before.

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Agreed. :D

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I agree with what you say but it doesnt have any positive effect on the team its only negative but I dont mind admitting I havent paid to follow them round so I probably dont understand. Apart from expressing your disappointment all it does is demoralise the team, a team which already doesnt seem very positive

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I thought that also.
He showed the most aggression when walking off.

Nobody in an England shirt stood out at all tonight or even in the last game. Capello has to change the tactics and play the players where they are best at playing. Plus, Joe Cole is a must for the next game.

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1) Rooney has had a long season
2) He is not playing in his usual role
3) He is our best player but that's not saying much. The papers and commentators that put him up there with Messi and such were setting him up for a fall

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It seems every manager we have does quite well with everyone else but when it comes to England they turn crap. I think we need to look at the quality of our team and the realism of our expectations, we obviously should have done better in our group so far but he qualified in style. Don't want to fire him and get another manager in yet again.

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I think the trouble is that the FA are desperate for 'a name' and keeps raiding the domestic leagues around the world for it rather than an experienced manager at international level. To abuse a cliche, it's a whole different ballgame.

I don't think we qualified in style at all. The results on paper flattered us. The performances weren't that good at all. We scored against the run of play in a few of them or played weak opposition. The only match that stands out is the Croatia match and that was a while ago now.

The rot has been there a while. We've given Capello time and space and we're just going backwards.

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Well the best England have done in recent years has been under Eriksson who is still treated as a joke. I think the FA are under pressure to deliver a manager who can bring this team further than the quality suggests. We are a team that should be in the last 8. Which we did mostly achieve before.

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England going out doesn't mean the end of the World Cup for some of us and everything seems quite normal to me, a few more people partying when the England matches are on but certainly nothing negative.

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It would be nice to watch another international game without the build-up, half-time analysis, and full time analysis containing hype for the next England game :dozey:

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why do we always blame the manager :shrug:

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Damn, I didn't want to have to say this, but I do feel the prevalence of 'non English' players in the Premier League tends to stifle the potential of the players actually eligible to represent their country.

Couple that with the recent tendency to recruit foreign managers for the England team & I wonder why we have so many England flags flying?

I'd rather we bowed out of the World Cup with dignity, under an English manager, with a team based on the best our local clubs could recruit through their youth schemes, than with a second eleven under an Italian with a limited resource?

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Millionaires don't seem to have the motivation to play well for England. They have it all already :).

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One word for that performance .. Drivel.

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i fell asleep watching that riveting performance .

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I can sort of see what Rooney was on about, it's what you lot always do especially in the media, in the run-up to the finals everywhere you look it's "we can do it this time" etc then as soon as you have a bad game you turn on your team. I'm just waiting for the "fabio must go" headlines. But then again if Rooney doesn't want the fans booing then maybe he shouldn't play like a Sunday league striker. Actually I thought SWP had a pretty decent game, he almost stood out.

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Some players have the same attitude as film stars, don't criticise me just pay your money, agree with anything I say and go home quietly. As for the fan in the dressing room heaven forbid that the great unwashed should get near the players, before you know it the players will have to deign to speak to their fans.
Watching football or any other sport is about opinions and
passion and if this includes booing after the match then so be it.

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There are fans in South Africa who have given up their jobs just to watch England in the World Cup and all they get are 11 individuals on the pitch who seem to have no idea of team work. Is it any surprise they were booed.

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Some of the England team should have gone to "Specsavers" then they would be able to see who they were passing the ball to because they for sure last night they couldn't figure out who was wearing the white shirts.

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The whole performance was a disgrace, all those fans have worked very hard to save up all that money to see a so called England team, attempt to win a cup, and they have been let down, by a pathetic overpaid ponces, l have seen better football on a Sunday morning. And that Rooney comment, well this is very typical of the arrogant git, he should have been taken off and someone else put on, Heskey should never have gone, getting into the next round, no chance.

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Normally I always try to be extremely positive about the teams I support, but last night I watched every minute of the game, turned off the TV and went to bed. There was nothing I could think to say about that match..

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In all seriousness though, England will qualify from the group.... wont they? Does anyone genuinely believe SLovenia will take any points on Wednesday?

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They took won against Algeria who England could only draw with...

England seriousy need to reshape that team because if they come out with the same tactics on Thurdays (I think we play again then) then it'll seriously dent faith in them from both their players and the fans before they even kick off

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There haven't been many good games so far, but last night's England match was dire. They didn't seem to be a Plan A never mind a Plan B, the team were milling around seemingly making it up as they went. Where was the leadership, where was the belief. I felt sad for those supporters who had spent an awful lot of money to be there.

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yea should have brought charlton on :)

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:mad: Shambles :mad: absolute shambles!!!

How can a bunch of players who were playing together for most of the qualifiers, getting decent results and playing some not bad football suddenly become so disjointed, pathetic and clueless?

The amount of times i laughed last night was ridiculous, if it was a comedy show it was a 10/10. My funniest was when Heskey was wide right, went to try and take on the full back only to stumble around a bit then nearly fall over :rolleyes: . Any Argentinian or Brazilian watching must have been cocking himself :shocked:

As for Rooney being one of the worlds best players :confused: "you`re avin a laugh...!"

p.s. Gerrard and Lampard should not be in the same team...