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It wasn't in that game (no wonder I was confused) ;) but instead in the replay, the original game ended 1-1 with PP scoring both goals :p:

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Liverpool.



LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!

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No I am confused, I always thought it was Tommy Hutchinson :confused:

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Eeeeeekkkk, to much alcohol me thinks..

Yep you are totally right...I'll now slink away into the dark and hide ;)

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Another tragedy strikes West Ham. Jack Collison's dad died in a traffic accident on the way to the Spurs v West Ham.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-stabbing.html

You've got to be a real heartless so-and-so not to feel for the club at the moment.

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What ever happened to the respect all teams,players,and referees
I thought that was supposed to be the big thing in football now. :(


That is why I always congratulate the opposition on their own forums when they beat Liverpool.And if we win I wish them better luck next time or tell them how unlucky they were.

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It's the CF way - when Liverpool lose, United fans lead the way in urine-extraction. Why? Because we expect nothing less thatn the same when United get beaten. It's in the rules ;)

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Not my way
I always make a point of congratulating United when they beat Liverpool.
I have the greatest of respect for United and I have United mates.We have never taken the pea out of eachother.

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I always think it's best to wait a while because it can turn around so quickly! Best to gloat at the end of a season :D

I do think there is a point where you should separate good ol fashion banter and rivalry with an honest assessment of the football itself. It's incredibly annoying to talk about football with someone blinded by fanatical support to their team, a support they believe will be undermined by any objectivity.

It's also annoying to spend to much time debating insignificant aspects of the game. Hence everyone rushing to find a clear answer why their team is either starting well or bad. When most of the time it's simply the fact that it's a competitive sport and sometimes the other team played better on the day or luck came into play. Not these ludicrous stories people fabricate to fill column inches.

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It's absolutely nothing personal but I would be suspicious of a Liverpool supporter who was gracious when United lose. OK it's sportsmanship and that's obviously to be commended but it's part and parcel of the game - United and liverpool are each other's biggest rivals. You should see me on facebook ripping the urine out of all my scouse-supporting mates when they lose but it's only because I expect the same treatment back. It's almost like I respect them more if they do it.

I seperate the fans from the team though - the deep respect I've shown here in the past towards Hillsborough should bear that out. But when certain teams lose, it's almost a requirement to have a laugh about it.

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I was bought up in the bad old days when the players got on the bus to the match.Supported Liverpool through very very thin(1959-) old 2ed division a few times I was on the same bus as Alan A'Court :D I was at Anfield before Bill Shankly.I was only 5 when I started,An uncle took me although he was an Evertonian.My dad was an Evertonian but would never take me or pay for me so my pocket money went on Liverpool.I left school in 1969 and started to pay my own way,also going to some away games.From about 1971-1989 I went every game in the UK and many European games.I was then in the crush at Hillsborough and was left mentally scared spending time in hospital for panoria etc.Which I still have along with nightmares and flashbacks.So I have never been back to Anfield except for the 19th Hillsborough Anniversary which a very good friend I talked to on the LFC Forums came up from Yorkshire came up and took me taking care of me.
That's all I can write for now.
YNWA To All
God bless the 96 :angel:

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Touching story, nice to see how much a club can be part of someone's life. Sad to hear about Hillsborough, I cannot imagine the grief and horror you experienced. Sorry.

I heard a nice story about AC Milan. After Hillsborough games across Europe held a silence, 8 minutes into the game the ref blew his wistle and the silence would start. However at AC Milan the fans broke the silence to sing "You'll Never Walk Alone". An example of how people rise above the relatively minor details of supporting a club.

Thanks for Sharing that story though. :clap:

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I think there is a video of that on You Tube it's a true and very touching story

:angel:

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Yup, Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFX07...eature=related

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:cry:



Thankyou

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Thanks Damien, I've never seen that and its very touching.

I went to Hillsborough last Friday to pay my respects and I was disgusted with the tiny and almost hidden memorial that wasn't even at the Leppings Lane end. No names of those lost, like they want to wipe it from their memory. Its a shame its not so easy for all of us.

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Sadly and much to my shame I have never been back to Hillsborough.
One day God willing I would like to go to Turin to pay my respects to the 39 Juventus fans killed in the Heysel Stadium.I was there that day too.I have met a few Juventus Fans when they have been over here in Liverpool most accept a hand of friendship but some do not(I do not blame them ) It was a terrible tregedy :(

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Thanks for sharing though Sox. Must be terrible not being able to see the team you love. I can't imagine it.

Especially since Itallian football fans are completely mental, it means even more.

However, I don't think it will extend to Millwall fans. Apparently a few of them are going to sing songs about Davenport and Collison.

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There will always be a small minority of people who disrespect others
I know of a small minority of United Fans and Everton Fans who wear and sell anti Hillsborough shirts.Liverpool fans themselves are not blameless there is a small minority of them do the same with anti Munich shirts.
I understand some of the hatered directed at Liverpool by some fans after the lengthy ban on European Football from 1985- forget now was it 4 or 5 years.Memory's not that good.

PS
It's not so bad with all the TV coverage now I have Sky Sports and ESPN.
Do miss the companionship with the opposition fans though we have always arranged to meet before and after a game for a drink.

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Maybe that's what provoked this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8221451.stm

I have no time for Millwall. Was pleased they didn't get promoted last year and hope they continue to stay away from the Premiership and other decent teams and supports.

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its always the same team that causes issues isnt it... and always the name Millwall turns up.

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It's not just the Millwall fans, there's West Ham fans just as bad.

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The only good thing to come out of last nights result for me is the charity of my choice has done well.My swear box is full :shocked::D

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I have nothing wrong with people ribbing United, but Liverpool have had one of the worst starts to a season ever. So that Premiership title's looking a LONG way off!

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Its too early on in the season to go making comments like that, lets just see how the season pans out. The transfer window hasn't even closed yet FGS :dozey:

We aren't the only ones to have a bad start and although I'm not happy about it, what kind of fan would I be to write us off after 2 bad games? Real fans stick through thick and thin :)

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And i was right, it's West Ham fans running onto the pitch threatening Millwall players. Hopefully the FA actually do something, huge fines for both clubs and chucked out the competition at the very least.

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There will be ramifications from the West Ham game:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8221451.stm

Fans also invaded the pitch, causing the play to be suspended.

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West Ham are on the pitch again, this time hugging their own players.

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It's morons like this who give true football fans a bad name, they're just out to have a fight, it's pathetic. Hopefully the club and police have their faces on CCTV and they get a lifetime ban from football grounds.

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Agreed :tu:

They have the power to name and shame these people these days what with cctv everywhere, surely they must have jobs and families so show their faces i say!

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Great plan Shadow, kick out a team that are already knocked out :erm:

It was always going to happen, they should have played it behind closed doors.

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That would be punishing the majority because of the stupid minority.

I would reduce the capacity by half. The lunatic fringe are easier to spot without totally destroying the atmosphere.

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Can't see many other options for this match, perhaps not allowing away fans in but considering most of the trouble was outside and the majority are already being punished, you'd have to be a complete moron to take you children to that match for instance

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I quite liked this take:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/s...-200908262009/

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I have been a fan for over 30 years, and there is two things l will say, I was at a West Ham v Spurs game and stewards were putting BOTH supporters on the same train, just to get them away from Upton Park, and the doors then shut and all hell broke loose, we were not seperated, And in all my years becuase of the Millwall supporters aggro l never went there, due to the reputation.

There has always been this bad feeling between both clubs, and it won't stop, I blame TWO sets of people for last night, ONE the police, who did great OUTSIDE the ground, but they knew there was trouble, WHY dind't they 'ring' the staduim inside the ground, TWO, why didn't West Hame have enough stewards inside the ground to cope.

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How does that song go? Oh yeah - Same old Arsenal always cheating :dozey:

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It was a shameful incident but a United fan can't really point the figure can you? How many times did Ronaldo dive? At least Arsenal don't often do crap like that. No player in the team has a reputation for diving. Hopefully Wenger will chew Eduardo out and tell him cut it out now.

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They've been doing it all match non stop, Arsenal would be a great team to watch if they stopped diving and rolling around with 'injuries' . I bet Wenger's happy with his dive and will later claim he didn't see it in his post match interviews as per usual.

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If I remember correctly Arsenal finished above United in the fair play table. They usually do since they stopped getting sent off. They haven't been doing it all match, it was just that very bizarre incident which was horrible to watch as a Arsenal fan.

Like I said, When United stop diving then you can start moralising about other teams diving. Every other team 'cheats' according to United fans. :rolleyes: Chelsea cheated, Arsenal cheated, Liverpool are bunch of cheats meanwhile Ronaldo spent most of last season on the floor.

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It's not what you'd call conclusive but I don't ever recall a "Same old Liverpool, always cheating" chant.

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I don't recall many occasions where Arsenal have been accused of cheating. It's just a chant. Like I said Arsenal tend to be very high in the fair play league.

Still. There is no defending Eduardo's dive.

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So because i support United it means i can't have an opinion on another team? I'm voicing my opinion on Arsenal cheating, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the team i support, Arsenal cheated and dived, they have a long record of doing it more so than most teams, and think about it, it's not going to show in the fair play league is it? Please don't tell me what i can and cannot comment on, thank you.

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They do show 'positive play' in the Fair Play league. Diving is usually not considered positive play.

I am stating that Arsenal do not have a long history of cheating. Certainly no more than other clubs as you seem to suggest. Remember the player in the league last season with the biggest reputation for diving was one of yours.

I never bother with that kind of thing because 1) It rarely, if ever, changes course of a season 2) I don't like calling teams cheats. Not least because I am aware Arsenal's players are not above diving themselves. I will bring it up if United fans start calling Arsenal cheats though.

Anyway I don't want to turn the topic angry, I already said it was undefendable. I felt pretty bad watching it.

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The thing is Damien, i never said it's only Arsenal players that dive or United players never dive, it was just a bit of banter about a dive that was the worst i've seen for a very long time. It was you that took it the wrong way telling me i can't have an opinion on it.

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Yay, Wilshere is on.

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Sorry, The Arsenal bunch of cheaters thing is like waving a Red Flag in front of a Bull :p: Bearing in mind it was embarrassing to watch.


Arshavin!

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Can't wait to see this dive :rolleyes:

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It's bad...

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Nice goal from Celtic, Very narrow angle and very nicely hit.

Now to Friday and the Draw. Do not want to face Real Madrid. Some interesting stories could emerge though. Inter vs United? Maybe Ronaldo will face his old team?

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Rangers are going to be in Pot 2 along with Inter, Real Madrid, Lyon and Juventus. UEFA really need to look at how teams get seeded as that is ridiculous, they're seeded above Athletico madrid and Wolfsdburg (German champions) for example. The only upside is if they get drawn in our group tomorrow :D

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The draws tomorrow Damien and i kinda hope we get Madrid, maybe not in the group stage though! :)

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I don't think the UEFA seeding system is that bad so Rangers merit being in pot 2. The seeding system takes into account the teams record over 5 seasons as well as the record of other teams from that country.

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I've been looking at a recording of the Eduardo incident from behind the goal line and it definitely looked like his right foot was caught by the thigh of the goalkeeper, although at that point he appeared to have lost control of the ball anyway. At the point of contact his foot can be seen moving sideways. The slight contact was made when the right foot was in the air and only the ball of his left foot was on the ground. This may explain him going over with only a slight contact being made.

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What should happen to stop this crap from cheating players, and this was cheating, is that the organistations should force the clubs to fine the players, and also remove the 'goal' This was important game, and it is about bloody time the authorities carck down hard on it - shameful.

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And add to this, if people say, if you remove the 'goal' and that side win, then they LOSE the game as punishment, the authorities are a joke, as far as l am concerned.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/8223917.stm
This is a good idea and I hope to see a result to send a message.

However I am disappointed it's this one Incident which is getting so much coverage when players are diving every week in Europe and their respective leagues. There is only one other case of a player getting suspended for diving.

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The only way they can stop this is to bring in some form of instant replay.. The problem there is that the game will be stop/start as every manager wants an opposing takle, free kick decision or penalty looked at.. :( Perhaps though it should be brought in but ONLY looked at for serious offences (like red cards or penalties)

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I don't think its a route the authorities wanted to go down, but if they get a result on this test case it could lead to something being done about it. I'm sure a player on every team has dived at one point or other and with such high stakes. One goal in Champions League money is £50m+, Premiership £30m+.

The assistant refs help the full ref come to a descision during the match. I really can't see why the 4th official, who has a lot of AV equiptment in front of him, can't help as well.

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You don't need to go to replays like Hawkeye and the cricket. It can be done seemlessly

For example. Eduardo dives and the ref immediately gives a penalty. Its a good minute or two before the player steps up to take the penalty. The replays are instant and in the minute or so the 4th official can clearly see there is no contact. So during the run up to the penalty the 4th official can contact the ref on the radio and tell him he dived. Eduardo is booked and play goes on. Play isn't interrupted any more so than the natural flow.

It only needs to be done for game changing moments. I.e. goals and sending off. It doesn't need to be if a player dives in the middle of the field.

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Yup, I agree with this. Certainly no reason why we cannot have technology to see if the ball crosses the line or not. Pens are harder because normally dives are not so clear cut as it was last night so even the TV cameras might be hard pressed to make a choice.

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It should be a straight red, plus the club itself should be fined also, as they are not going to say anything to the player are they ?, the club win the sup, they are not going to be bothered by a silly fine are they.

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Full Champions League Groups:
Group A: Bayern Munich, Juventus, Bordeaux, Maccabi Haifa
Group B: MANCHESTER UNITED, CSKA Moscow, Besiktas, Wolfsburg
Group C: AC Milan, Real Madrid, Marseille, FC Zurich
Group D: CHELSEA, FC Porto, Atletico Madrid, APOEL
Group E: LIVERPOOL, Lyon, Fiorentina, Debrecen
Group F: FC Barcelona, Inter Milan, Dinamo Kiev, FC Rubin Kazan
Group G: Sevilla, RANGERS, Stuttgart, Unirea
Group H: ARSENAL, AZ Alkmaar, Olympiakos, Standard


Some tough groups there...

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Not so much for Arsenal and United tho. We got a nice group, Chelsea argubly have the hardest of the English teams. A, C and D are the hardest. England seem to have done well

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Not sure about that, lots of sides wanted to avoid Wolfsburg.

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Liverpool and Chelsea have really tough groups, Uniteds group is ok apart from the traveling involved and getting the toughest team in pot 4, Arsenal have paid someone to get that group (:)) and Rangers have a decent group. All the English clubs should qualify and Rangers have a good chance as well imo.

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So that's where the money from Man City went.

Seriously though. Look at the other groups and tell me the English teams didn't do badly out of the draw.

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as an arsenal supporter am very happy with the group :) I really dont envy ManU for having to go to Besiktas how many English teams have lost fans in there??? also Moscow isnt a nice destination really with the visas etc.

I think all the English teams will go through without too many problems. dont think Rangers will...

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I think your underestimating a few teams. Lyon, even though they sold Benzema are a quality team, they're the 3rd highest spenders in Europe this year and they've bought quality players, Fiorentina are a decent side as well, so it won't be straight forward for Liverpool. Porto gave United a good game in the quarter-finals last year and Atletico Madrid are a very good side, they beat Liverpool pre season for example. Of course the English sides will be happy to avoid the likes of Madrid and Inter and will most probably qualify but they're not staightforward matches.

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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle6812994.ece


Ofcourse, nothing to do with David Gill being on the Board ?

Thoughts everyone ?

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Petty and unsurprising.

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Not all that different to the FA regularly ruling in Arsenal's favour when David Davis was on their board a few years back.

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David Davis :confused:

Two wrongs dont make it right, imo the best man for the job should be in place and his professionalism shouldn't be questioned, if I were Galley I tell 'em to stuff their U21 job but he probably wont being a professional.

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Was on the phone when I typed that :spin: - David Dein.

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Good, thought the man with the drearyest voice in football had got a promotion

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Why does the times have the headline Manchester United block Liverpool physiotherapist's England move when the last line of the article says

:confused:

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Eduardo has been charged by UEFA - faces a 2 match ban.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/8223917.stm

A good step forward IMHO. Looks like Man Yoo sold Ronaldo just in time.

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What i don't understand is, if a player is caught diving during a match they get a yellow card, if Eduardo had been caught diving he would have got a yellow card and that would have been the end of it. So why will he get a two match ban because the ref missed it in the game? I wonder if UEFA will do this for every player that dives, or just for the English clubs.

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I think it needs to go through something like this (i.e.. a post match investigation and a ban) as it'll make the many players who do take the risk of a yellow card and dive more likely not to do it in the first place..

Perhaps they need to knock up the diving offence to a red card offence in the future as currently it's a gamble that has nothing to do with playing well that many players seem willing to take

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I do hope this is a constant feature. So many players have dived and nothing happens. Often In much more Important contexts.

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Then you might get moments where a player is actually fouled and he is sent for diving.

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If Eduardo had been caught diving during the match he would have failed to "deceive the referee" which I think is the crux of the UEFA charge. He also would not have got the penalty.

As long as this is consistantly applied then this must be a good thing.

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Yes, It won't be though. Some Madrid player dives and nothing will happen. UEFA want to make an example of this one case. Arsenal have been the victim of dives to which nothing happened before.

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This cracks me up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwE_CrjxahI

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I noticed how pleased Platini was when Utd were beaten by Barcelona back in May, however, I am not sure Platini's way is the way to go or not regarding sugar daddies. Chelsea have now spent all what Abramovich wants to, is apparantly backing Platini's idea.

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...he-gravy-train

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I always remember the song, Same old Arsenal, always cheating, now we have whinger Wenger complaining about the charge from EUFA, no matter what the ban, he and Arsenal should suffer, I suggest he has a very good look at the video, the Celtic keeper did NOT touch him. disgraceful.

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Yes talk about double standards, quite happy when they are blowing millions but don't want anyone else to, Heaven forbid some one else should break into their exclusive little Champions League club

Platini added: "It's mainly the owners that asked us to do something - Roman Abramovich, (AC Milan's) Silvio Berlusconi, (Inter Milan's) Massimo Moratti. They do not want to fork out from their pockets any more.

Oh and I notice the likes of United and Real weren't included, seems as though it's alright to be in hock to the banks but not for some rich guy to gift the club cash, seriously they are in danger of killing the golden goose.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...pe/8225941.stm

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What he is annoyed about is this make Eduado the first player in British Football to be charged with diving. There is no indication this is part of a larger crackdown either.

Dives happen all the time and UEFA need to either be consistant or leave it with the ref. I support the former but I do not support them randomly deciding to punish a player and then to leave all other divers unpunished. As Punky alluded to, Where is Ronaldo's charge? When he dives for Madrid, and he will, we UEFA step in there? Or will they be scared to charge Real Madrid?

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The authorities have to crack down hard on this matter, we see it week in, week out, the sad thing is referees get conned all the time, BUT referee's have to be tough and depend on the linesman, but this often goes as the officials are soft and don't want to feel the wrath of the club. What we fans have to realise is that, say for example that Joe Bloggs United are playing a top club from the prem, and a player from the prem side does a dive in the box and wins the game, as they don't want an embarrasing defeat on there hands, this is what is wrong with the game, the diver should have an instant red card and banned for 4 games and the club fined heavily, BUT the FA and PL won't enforce it, as they are petrified of the big boys.

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i'm glad they are doing something about cheating and diving but it needs to be every time not just a one off.

We see it time and again where a play is kicked somewhere but falls over holding another part of their body, or gets contact in the neck \ shoulder but rolls over holding their face. Will they be punished too.

The sad thing is if there had been the slightest brush of contact everyone would say it was a fair pen

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There is only one person to blame here...........Murdoch

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Manchester United vs Arsenal

forgetting all the debt that surrounds both clubs, predictions please...

My prediction Man Utd 2 - 1 Arsenal

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3-3 with alternate scoring

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1-1

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That is just irritating. Played so well, how on earth did we lose that.

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have to say as a united fan i'm also not quite sure how you lost ????

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:Yes:

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Did you have a bet on it? ;)

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after that rubbish performance at least i can take one positive (other than 3 undeserved points) , my wife put Arsenal to win half time , Utd to win at full time , won about £130 :cleader:

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Unlucky for Arsenal that was, they at the very least deserved a point out of that game, oh how the goalie can change a match (still think this is why Shay Given is City`s best signing)
First of all we have an outstanding save by Ben Foster which kept Man U in the game, then we have Mr Skunky, sorry Almunia flying out like the Mallard and handing (literally) Utd a goal, then to top it off standing like statue when Giggs sent that free kick over. It wasn`t a difficult ball to come for as there where very few players in the way, also it was a floater not a fizzer like the unlucky Van Persie`s free kick. Having played in goal to a reasonable level i would have to say Almunia cost Arsenal dearly today while Ben Foster seems to be growing in confidence.

And who`s joining me in a big aaah! for Berbatov? He had to do a bit of running after coming on fresh and ready to go then did that :shocked: dear `o` dear. Ferguson must be hoping Rooney stays fit as without him United would only be just above average.
Congrats to Man U, unlucky to Arsenal, not a bad watch actually.
Chelsea and Spurs 4 out of 4, i think this season is going to see a lot more teams jockeying for them top 4 spots.

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No, but I have on tonight's lotto :2cents:

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Two seasons +4 of boring football. Two Prem Titles and 9 points. I really don't know what that says about the rest of the Prem. Should Ferguson ever wake up and buy in some quality players to replace one or two of the flare(less) players, we could win the Prem as a background task.

I thought he may have acted after the Burnley farce, the fact it was Burnley made it into a "One of those things" but sooner or later a decent team will take us to the cleaners. Then Fergie can sit an count the £80Mill and wonder why he didn't splash £15 of it on Wesley Sneijder. £5Mill on Tuncay. Or £7Mill on "One in Four for Holland" Van Der Vart. There is no value in the market eh? It's a poor squad, I don't like it and haven't liked for a few seasons. Winning isn't everything.

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Eboue getting booked for diving?

...and with only seconds to go, the ref holds up the game to ensure that Wenger gets off the field of play. He hadn't even made it to the tunnel when the ref blew for full time. Made me laugh when he climbed on top of the old tunnel.

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That was pretty funny. All he did was kick a water bottle when he found out Gallas was offside and the goal didn't stand. Not to mention he was probably still miffed into how Arsenal managed to give the game away.

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Anyway despite the result my feeling is that it was a good sign for Arsenal in the season ahead. We were the better team, and we should have won. If we can go to Old Trafford and put in that kind of performance then I think we are title contenders and the talk of not finishing in the top 4 seems unlikely now.

It's important that Arsenal don't lose all confidence and go on a losing steak though. We need to come back strong at City in a couple of weeks.

This was yet another unconvincing performance from United though and I think Chelsea will probably be even firmer favourites for the title at the moment.

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You may have been the slightly better team on the day, but I wasn't blown away with Arsenal's performance. Better than last year, but Arsenal still have a lot to do...

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Well, Ironically, I thought our defence was good. Kept United from having a single decent shot. Which is why they decided to help out and score one on United behalf :dozey:. This was our weakest point last season and it's encouraging. As were are midfield.

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Vintage slice from donkey, he even had the good manners to end up on his arse too. Unforgettable. Flog him back to Spurs.