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Horizon 05-02-2009 14:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Mr Spiderplant, why has Living2+1 been placed on ch 160, surely ch 113 would be the best place for it?

Media Boy UK 05-02-2009 15:10

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Well Virgin Media has done this in the past with MTV One +1 it launch on Virgin Channel 325 then moved to Virgin Channel 312 about an week later.

Also my total channel has gone down by one but Virgin has not removed anything (As far as I can see).

spiderplant 05-02-2009 15:13

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Dunno. Maybe they are wary of changing both the name and number at the same time (though it should be ok).

Horizon 05-02-2009 15:16

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VM announced they were rebranding their channels sometime in 09, so perhaps Trouble and Living 2+1 will just be morphed into a new channel and so will remain on those positions.

Just as along as we don't go back to the bad ole days of a messy epg with channels all over the place.....would not welcome that at all.

Media Boy UK 05-02-2009 15:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 34728211)
Just as along as we don't go back to the bad ole days of a messy epg with channels all over the place.....would not welcome that at all.

Have you seen Sky Digital EPG yet?:D

Felim_Doyle 05-02-2009 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 34728187)
Click the "About BARB" link at the top of the page.

In the TV programme 'Rosanne' they had a Nielsen (http://www.nielsen.com/) box which monitored their viewing habits. If that is a sample of the general viewing public then it's not very representative!!!:shocked: I certainly don't want my viewing in influenced by trailer trash!:nono:

Horizon 05-02-2009 15:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34728213)
Have you seen Sky Digital EPG yet?:D

Yes! As to your question media boy, channel numbers always fluctuate by one or two channels depending on how many hidden channels are "live" usually related to PPV events.

braysoj1 05-02-2009 16:07

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
itv player will be advert free an engineer told me when he installed my new v+ last week

danny85 05-02-2009 19:20

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
is fx hd testing then or not??

sprattgraham 05-02-2009 19:35

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the message was deleted so I guess not, and I can't see it here

braysoj1 05-02-2009 19:42

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any news on daystar been like that 4 ages and any new channels coming this week

Channels that are testing
EPG No. ↓ Channel Name ↓ Notes ↓ Owner/parent company ↓
TBC Daystar TV Daystar Television Network

Media Boy UK 05-02-2009 20:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danny85 (Post 34728324)
is fx hd testing then or not??

Someone has now removed FX HD from the list on Wikipedia.

---------- Post added at 19:11 ---------- Previous post was at 19:09 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by braysoj1 (Post 34728339)
any news on daystar been like that 4 ages and any new channels coming this week

Channels that are testing
EPG No. ↓ Channel Name ↓ Notes ↓ Owner/parent company ↓
TBC Daystar TV Daystar Television Network


I do not have any news on any new channels coming tomorrow.

sprattgraham 05-02-2009 20:31

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Just for info, NTL Cambridge

Total Chans 316
TS Streams 30
Total Servs 316

braysoj1 05-02-2009 20:41

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ex telewest leeds V+

Total Chans 308
TS Streams 34
Total Servs 308

Media Boy UK 05-02-2009 20:50

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But all the Ex-ntl viewers has got more channels then us Ex-Telewesters.

See post one for the full list of channels that Virgin Media only broadcasts in some areas.

---------- Post added at 19:50 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

PS. All V+ Boxes has got NINE more channels than V Box.

My Bedroom's V Box has got 300 channels on it.
But my V+ Box has got 309 channels on it.

(All Boxes are in a Ex-Telewest area.)

braysoj1 05-02-2009 20:55

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is there a list of any kind where it shows what ex telewest get and ex ntl channels get

tpick 05-02-2009 22:49

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[QUOTE=Media Boy;34728387]But all the Ex-ntl viewers has got more channels then us Ex-Telewesters.



Not quite true..I'm ex-NTL but before that ex C&W and I have less channels..only 306 services..

Andrewcrawford23 05-02-2009 22:55

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[quote=tpick;34728452]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34728387)
But all the Ex-ntl viewers has got more channels then us Ex-Telewesters.



Not quite true..I'm ex-NTL but before that ex C&W and I have less channels..only 306 services..

which is mroe than xtw

xtw only has 300 listed the other 9 are to do with background streeams for v+

sprattgraham 05-02-2009 23:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34728387)
But all the Ex-ntl viewers has got more channels then us Ex-Telewesters.

See post one for the full list of channels that Virgin Media only broadcasts in some areas.

---------- Post added at 19:50 ---------- Previous post was at 19:45 ----------

PS. All V+ Boxes has got NINE more channels than V Box.

My Bedroom's V Box has got 300 channels on it.
But my V+ Box has got 309 channels on it.

(All Boxes are in a Ex-Telewest area.)

Same here 325 on V+

Media Boy UK 06-02-2009 14:55

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Live UEFA Cup Football News.

Five and Aston Villa have signed a new deal for exclusive live coverage of the club's home games for the next two rounds of the Uefa Cup campaign.

Under the deal, Five will screen the England's side's next game against CSKA Moscow on 18 February. A win against the Russian side could then line up a clash against the London Side Tottenham Hotspur for a quarter final place.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2...ton_villa.html

Info from Broadcastnow.

demented 06-02-2009 16:47

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Relying on Wikipedia for rumours isn't a great idea. People keep on vandalising the virgin and sky pages and putting prank channels that sound almost plausible on for a laugh.

Media Boy UK 07-02-2009 10:50

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Setanta to lose 23 matches to BSkyB from August 2010.


More than 80% of live televised Premier League games will appear on BSkyB after the broadcaster snatched some of the TV rights from rival Setanta.

The broadcasters have each won one of the two remaining packages of UK broadcast rights for 2010 to 2013.
The deal takes the total generated from selling the rights to £1.782bn - about 5% more than the current deal.

Media Boy: Setanta will keep the Saturday Afternoon at 5.15pm kick off time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/7875478.stm

Info from BBC.

sherer 07-02-2009 11:05

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that's not good news for Setanta and I think they will really struggle to get any new subscribers now. Shame it wasn't split 3-3 which would have been fairer and then given each channel enough matches to actually get people to sign up

virginruinedntl 07-02-2009 11:23

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im glad as setanta's video quality is awful.

gadge 07-02-2009 12:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34729223)
im glad as setanta's video quality is awful.

I think its disgusting just shows skys dominance again.

sherer 07-02-2009 14:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gadge (Post 34729240)
I think its disgusting just shows skys dominance again.

I think it shows the tender process is flawed and they are just making a token gesture to comply with the EU competitions ruling. How can 5 of the packages going to the same supplier be good

pmc31@blueyonder 07-02-2009 19:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34729223)
im glad as setanta's video quality is awful.

I've always found their picture quality to be alright. Still I only watch the odd game here and there so maybe I've been lucky:)

---------- Post added at 18:52 ---------- Previous post was at 18:51 ----------

I hope they do get military history channel, this looks good.

Cheers for the updates Media Boy

frogstamper 08-02-2009 00:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34729223)
im glad as setanta's video quality is awful.

You won't be saying that when Setanta goes under or loses premier league football, once again Sky will monopolise the league and then watch your subscription climb.
Personally I don't get a bad picture at all from Setanta, its certainly not on par with Sky's but its well watchable.

lemarsh 08-02-2009 00:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34729569)
Personally I don't get a bad picture at all from Setanta, its certainly not on par with Sky's but its well watchable.

thought the game today (Portsmouth v Liverpool) - the quality was very much better than has been in the past. It was on par with BBC/ITV

Felim_Doyle 08-02-2009 13:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34728387)
But all the Ex-ntl viewers has got more channels then us Ex-Telewesters.



Not quite true..I'm ex-NTL but before that ex C&W and I have less channels..only 306 services..

I'm ex-NTL, ex-C&W etc. in Aylesbury which, for Virgin Media purposes, is a suburb of Watford and I have 306 Channels/Services and 31 TS Streams on a standard Pace V Box.

---------- Post added at 12:10 ---------- Previous post was at 11:54 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by demented (Post 34728757)
Relying on Wikipedia for rumours isn't a great idea. People keep on vandalising the virgin and sky pages and putting prank channels that sound almost plausible on for a laugh.

Surely not! I have become more cautious in recent years about saying "it must be true, I read it on the interenet" but I know that it really is true if I read it on Wikipedia!:Yes:

Media Boy UK 09-02-2009 14:34

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I have been told that Virgin Media are looking to add Investigation Discovery by May 2009.

Felim_Doyle 09-02-2009 16:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 34730463)
I have been told that Virgin Media are looking to add Investigation Discovery by May 2009.

Nice work detective!;)

Belated Happy New Year to you, Media Boy, and to the group. Thanks for your invaluable information throughout 2008 and looking forward to lots of exciting announcements here about developments on Virgin Media cable this year.:tu:

Media Boy UK 09-02-2009 21:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Felim_Doyle (Post 34730524)
Nice work detective!;)

Belated Happy New Year to you, Media Boy, and to the group. Thanks for your invaluable information throughout 2008 and looking forward to lots of exciting announcements here about developments on Virgin Media cable this year.:tu:

Your welcome


This weeks list update now online - see post one.

wwe 09-02-2009 23:12

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anything new this month

ncfc1902 09-02-2009 23:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 34730811)
anything new this month

Is it too much trouble for you to click the link in the previous post? :rolleyes:

wwe 10-02-2009 03:38

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the post saids befor your welcome

Pushkar 10-02-2009 09:29

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Well least 1 more HD channel before April wouldn't be so bad, but still can't wait till Channel 4 starts HD.

joff81 10-02-2009 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TaiLZ (Post 34730923)
Well least 1 more HD channel before April wouldn't be so bad, but still can't wait till Channel 4 starts HD.

i see looking at Media boy`s latest update the HD 4 HD channels we were supposed to be getting in Q1 2009 have slipped to summer mind you we all should of known that VM would never deliver what they promised before christmas especially with HD content.

ncfc1902 10-02-2009 14:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wwe (Post 34730892)
the post saids befor your welcome

Media Boy's post also had a link to his list - updated this week, so no need to ask again!

Media Boy UK 10-02-2009 21:51

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Local Radio news for Ex-Telewest viewers:

On March 30th GMG Radio will rebrand local radio channel: 100-102 Century Radio (Gateshead area on Virgin Channel 933) as ''Real Radio''.

http://www.centuryradionortheast.co....adio/ieeh4vdz/

Info from GMG Radio.

frogstamper 11-02-2009 00:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34730960)
i see looking at Media boy`s latest update the HD 4 HD channels we were supposed to be getting in Q1 2009 have slipped to summer mind you we all should of known that VM would never deliver what they promised before christmas especially with HD content.

Yep I noticed that, what was it Berkett said "3 or 4 HD channel in the next 3 months", that was at the back-end of 2008 so like most people I reckoned on the end of March.
Have you anymore news on the HD channels Media Boy? and the statement that "VM hope to have some HD channels on air by the end of summer 2009", is this merely a Virgin aspiration or is it happening?
The deafening silence about the upcoming HD channels has had me concerned for a while now, and yet again it looks like VM have dropped the ball.
Add to this we seem to be getting even less HD on VOD, stupidly I assumed this was because of the upcoming launch of HD channels, huh wrong again...come on Virgin pull your finger out and please, please is it too much to ask to keep us informed?:shrug:

Media Boy UK 11-02-2009 00:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34731473)
Yep I noticed that, what was it Berkett said "3 or 4 HD channel in the next 3 months", that was at the back-end of 2008 so like most people I reckoned on the end of March.
Have you anymore news on the HD channels Media Boy? and the statement that "VM hope to have some HD channels on air by the end of summer 2009", is this merely a Virgin aspiration or is it happening?
The deafening silence about the upcoming HD channels has had me concerned for a while now, and yet again it looks like VM have dropped the ball.
Add to this we seem to be getting even less HD on VOD, stupidly I assumed this was because of the upcoming launch of HD channels, huh wrong again...come on Virgin pull your finger out and please, please is it too much to ask to keep us informed?:shrug:

All the info I have is on page one in post one and I was giving that infomation from an Virgin Media insider over last weekend.

ncfc1902 11-02-2009 01:57

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Good to see that British Eurosport (Ch 520) is broadcasting in Widescreen at last.

wwe 11-02-2009 03:12

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i car't see virgin getting any hd channel and if they did it be something rubbish and that will not be till ages why car't they not just sign a hd deal with sky

huxleypiguk 11-02-2009 08:30

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'cos it cost money. Money which they ain't going to get back with the pocketful of HD users out there.

There is HBO HD and BBC HD at the moment. When the markets are more stable then look out

oddfinger 11-02-2009 10:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34731473)
Yep I noticed that, what was it Berkett said "3 or 4 HD channel in the next 3 months", that was at the back-end of 2008 so like most people I reckoned on the end of March.
Have you anymore news on the HD channels Media Boy? and the statement that "VM hope to have some HD channels on air by the end of summer 2009", is this merely a Virgin aspiration or is it happening?
The deafening silence about the upcoming HD channels has had me concerned for a while now, and yet again it looks like VM have dropped the ball.
Add to this we seem to be getting even less HD on VOD, stupidly I assumed this was because of the upcoming launch of HD channels, huh wrong again...come on Virgin pull your finger out and please, please is it too much to ask to keep us informed?:shrug:

---------- Post added at 09:07 ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34731473)
Yep I noticed that, what was it Berkett said "3 or 4 HD channel in the next 3 months", that was at the back-end of 2008 so like most people I reckoned on the end of March.
Have you anymore news on the HD channels Media Boy? and the statement that "VM hope to have some HD channels on air by the end of summer 2009", is this merely a Virgin aspiration or is it happening?
The deafening silence about the upcoming HD channels has had me concerned for a while now, and yet again it looks like VM have dropped the ball.
Add to this we seem to be getting even less HD on VOD, stupidly I assumed this was because of the upcoming launch of HD channels, huh wrong again...come on Virgin pull your finger out and please, please is it too much to ask to keep us informed?:shrug:

Would everyone just calm down about the HD channels. Virgin have said within Q1. This is only the 11th Feb. If they have not put any on by the end of March then start complaining. Just because Media Boy has said that it may be summer time you are taking this as gospel. Has this come from Virgin Media?

synner 11-02-2009 10:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by huxleypiguk (Post 34731567)
'cos it cost money. Money which they ain't going to get back with the pocketful of HD users out there.

There is HBO HD and BBC HD at the moment. When the markets are more stable then look out

When did we get HBO HD...? It's certainly not showing on either of my V+ boxes...

Mobes 11-02-2009 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ncfc1902 (Post 34731533)
good to see that british eurosport (ch 520) is broadcasting in widescreen at last.

really??? At bloody last!

---------- Post added at 09:47 ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 ----------

aren't the channels 521 and 525 though??

virginruinedntl 11-02-2009 15:42

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yep, british eurosport is now widescreen. 576x544 though. 4mbps bitrate instead of 2mbps bitrate so picture so look quite alot better.

eurosport 2 is still fullscreen though, hopefully they will air that in widescreen and higher bitrate like they have done with british eurosport.

took them long enough, eurosport hd has been out for 4months+ should have been done straight away really, better late than never though:)

beeman 11-02-2009 15:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by synner (Post 34731605)
When did we get HBO HD...? It's certainly not showing on either of my V+ boxes...

HBO == "Home BoxOffice" (VOD) ;)

so not actually a channel but a VOD section

demented 11-02-2009 15:50

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Eurosport widescreen (reduced res) and at 4Mbs, wonderful. That is good news :tu:.

Mobes 11-02-2009 16:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34731813)
yep, british eurosport is now widescreen. 576x544 though.

Is that bad? Sorry i'm not up to spec on this kinda thing!



Quote:

Originally Posted by virginruinedntl (Post 34731813)
took them long enough, eurosport hd has been out for 4months+ should have been done straight away really, better late than never though:)

Absolutley... shocking it wans't done the same time... i have a feeling it makes it more likely that one our the HD channels we are (supposedly) getting will be BESport HD

demented 11-02-2009 16:29

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704 or 720x576 would have been much preferable. 544 is less than ideal. Widescreen and a much less stingy bitrate is really good news though.

Mobes 11-02-2009 17:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by demented (Post 34731838)
704 or 720x576 would have been much preferable. 544 is less than ideal. Widescreen and a much less stingy bitrate is really good news though.

More pixels better quality, ah gotcha... ta!

Anyone know what Sky sports and BBC is? I'm a big tennis watcher and found the w/screen quality on both pretty good...is W/screen Eusosport roughly the same?

demented 11-02-2009 17:20

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Yes. Comparable over time. Freeview http://dtt.me.uk/

and satellite http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/sa..._bit_rates.php

BBC1 and Sky Sports have that or higher. Bitrates aren't the be all, there is a set of well known sports channels that shall remain nameless that also has a similarly high bitrate and it looks pants ;).

virginruinedntl 12-02-2009 02:31

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1 bad thing i've noticed, bravo2 has gone down from 192bit audio to 128bit audio and 522x576 instead of 544x576. As if the quality of bravo couldn't get any worse!

OLD BOY 12-02-2009 09:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by huxleypiguk (Post 34731567)
'cos it cost money. Money which they ain't going to get back with the pocketful of HD users out there.

Maybe the only reason they have a pocketful of HD users is that they only have one HD channel!

sherer 12-02-2009 09:55

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this is a bit OT but Sky only have about 700,000 HD users which is a very small number of people. Considering VM have less users than Sky and the HD market is smaller you have to look at how many actual HD users VM would have. It's only a small number of people that keep asking on this thread all the time so I don't think the investment is worth it until they can see a genuine return

dd11 12-02-2009 09:56

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I totally agree with the Bravo2 thing, i was just watching TNA Wrestling, and the image looks zoomed in on bravo2 (even though in the USA it was filmed & broadcast in HD) but
when its on Bravo channel, it looks great for SD

joff81 12-02-2009 10:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34732286)
this is a bit OT but Sky only have about 700,000 HD users which is a very small number of people. Considering VM have less users than Sky and the HD market is smaller you have to look at how many actual HD users VM would have. It's only a small number of people that keep asking on this thread all the time so I don't think the investment is worth it until they can see a genuine return

i would have another check at those figures especially after the £49 sky+HD offer they have been running. the figures now are over 1m either with skyHD or signed up and getting skyHD.

the other thing is that SD TV`s are alomost non existant to purchase retail now which means that the install base of "HD Ready" tv`s is going up every day. with Sky running their HD promotion along side the sale of these HD tv`s then the demand for HD content is growing everyday. to be honest in the last 2 weeks i know about 10 housholds that have swapped to sky due to this HD promotion that were VM subscribers so from my point of view VM are loosing a ratio of 10:1 customers due to lack if HD, infact the original group of us (friends and family) that got VM installed at around the same time there is only 2 of us that have not ran to sky.

mr,m 12-02-2009 10:56

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I agree with joff,I know of at least 5 people who bought HD ready tvs over Christmas,3 of them signed up to VM,blissfuly unaware of the almost total lack of HD content.The picture improvemrnt of their new sets and the V+ box even fooled 2 of them that they actually were watching HD.A friend invited me round to see his new wonder tv and the astonishing (compared to his old crt set) picture quality.Even the giant notice on 108 that he was watching in SD did'nt worry him,he honestly thought it was something to do with his tv's settings,which he spent about 1/2 an hour fiddling with.I have a spare HDMI lead and and sorted him out.After discovering the aweful truth about our HD content he is switching to Sky.The point is how many other people think the same? The upscaling of the V+ may be fooling a lot of people,when they realise it,they'll just jump ship.VM need to get their fingers out sharpish regarding HD or it'll be like rats deserting a sinking ship! If people buy a HD tv they expect to see HD programmes.

sherer 12-02-2009 11:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34732289)
i would have another check at those figures especially after the £49 sky+HD offer they have been running. the figures now are over 1m either with skyHD or signed up and getting skyHD.

Where are you getting these figures from ?

According to SKy themselves

http://corporate.sky.com/documents/0...eb126b6c09c7e1

They have 779,000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joff81
the other thing is that SD TV`s are alomost non existant to purchase retail now which means that the install base of "HD Ready" tv`s is going up every day. with Sky running their HD promotion along side the sale of these HD tv`s then the demand for HD content is growing everyday. to be honest in the last 2 weeks i know about 10 housholds that have swapped to sky due to this HD promotion that were VM subscribers so from my point of view VM are loosing a ratio of 10:1 customers due to lack if HD, infact the original group of us (friends and family) that got VM installed at around the same time there is only 2 of us that have not ran to sky.

I am aware that you can't buy a SD TV anymore but plenty of people that purchase new TVs are satisfied with the extra channels from freeview and the upscaling that the TV does. You also need to take account of the fact that not everyone can afford to pay the extra cost for pay TV in the first place. Plenty of people may sign up to these deals but they might not stick with the contract and can end up leaving as circumstances change

Just because you want HD doesn't mean the entire nation does and is no reason for VM to bankrupt themselves in offering it.

Sky's take up of HD is only 8.4% of their customer base and with VM having a lower customer base I would assume the VM take up would be lower than that

joff81 12-02-2009 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34732314)
Where are you getting these figures from ?

According to SKy themselves

http://corporate.sky.com/documents/0...eb126b6c09c7e1

They have 779,000



I am aware that you can't buy a SD TV anymore but plenty of people that purchase new TVs are satisfied with the extra channels from freeview and the upscaling that the TV does. You also need to take account of the fact that not everyone can afford to pay the extra cost for pay TV in the first place. Plenty of people may sign up to these deals but they might not stick with the contract and can end up leaving as circumstances change

Just because you want HD doesn't mean the entire nation does and is no reason for VM to bankrupt themselves in offering it.

Sky's take up of HD is only 8.4% of their customer base and with VM having a lower customer base I would assume the VM take up would be lower than that


those figures were taken before December 31st as thats when the presentation was made and thos out of date figures produced. since then (beginnig last week of january this year) there has been a big promotion on SKY+HD (sky+HD box for £490. the best part is the normal sky+ box is still £75 so its ceaper to get a sky+HD box. infact its so big that there is a 8-10 week waiting lost to actually get sky+HD installed. people are leaving VM by the dozen as i said i know 10 housholds in the last 2 weeks that have left due to this offer alone and it does not need a genius to work out that VM are loosing lots of customers due to lack of HD and Sky`s big promotion on HD.

people wanting HD due to this offer has grown beyond what even sky predicted so much so that they cant keep up with demand. also the offer gets better as if you buy a HD tv from selected stores (currys, PC world, Asda etc) the Sky HD offer is only £29. jsut by looking at this alone you shold know fine well that the numbers will be well over 1m by now just to promotional sales alone.

sherer 12-02-2009 12:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34732351)
those figures were taken before December 31st as thats when the presentation was made and thos out of date figures produced. since then (beginnig last week of january this year) there has been a big promotion on SKY+HD (sky+HD box for £490. the best part is the normal sky+ box is still £75 so its ceaper to get a sky+HD box. infact its so big that there is a 8-10 week waiting lost to actually get sky+HD installed. people are leaving VM by the dozen as i said i know 10 housholds in the last 2 weeks that have left due to this offer alone and it does not need a genius to work out that VM are loosing lots of customers due to lack of HD and Sky`s big promotion on HD.

people wanting HD due to this offer has grown beyond what even sky predicted so much so that they cant keep up with demand. also the offer gets better as if you buy a HD tv from selected stores (currys, PC world, Asda etc) the Sky HD offer is only £29. jsut by looking at this alone you shold know fine well that the numbers will be well over 1m by now just to promotional sales alone.

AFAIK those are the latest figures available from Sky. You also have to allow for churn, just because someone signs up to a new deal for HD doesn't mean they will see out the contract and also people could be coming to the end of their deals \ contacts and due to the credit crunch could be leaving Sky. Until Sky announce any new figures I will stick with those rather than a made up figure based on what your mates and yourselves have done. That's why Sky don't announce figures all the time, as yes new people sign up, but also people leave.

According to Sky, churn is currently at 10% and with the credit crunch there is a chance this could get even higher

The VM 2008 results don't come until next week.

joff81 12-02-2009 12:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34732370)
AFAIK those are the latest figures available from Sky. You also have to allow for churn, just because someone signs up to a new deal for HD doesn't mean they will see out the contract and also people could be coming to the end of their deals \ contacts and due to the credit crunch could be leaving Sky. Until Sky announce any new figures I will stick with those rather than a made up figure based on what your mates and yourselves have done. That's why Sky don't announce figures all the time, as yes new people sign up, but also people leave.

According to Sky, churn is currently at 10% and with the credit crunch there is a chance this could get even higher

The VM 2008 results don't come until next week.

***** you cant go by out of date stats that are most likely 3 months out of date already.
use some common sense and stop being pessamistic the truth is all us with VM have backed the wrong horse and now we eitther sit it out or get out and move sky afterall for HD its been proven the sky is the place to be and the £49 offer makes it all the easier to move.

Andrewcrawford23 12-02-2009 14:09

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34732383)
***** you cant go by out of date stats that are most likely 3 months out of date already.
use some common sense and stop being pessamistic the truth is all us with VM have backed the wrong horse and now we eitther sit it out or get out and move sky afterall for HD its been proven the sky is the place to be and the £49 offer makes it all the easier to move.

the figures will not have jumped that much majority of people do not care about hd its only a minority fine you like sky stay witht hem and stop trying tio make them out to be better than they are

joff81 12-02-2009 16:06

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34732434)
the figures will not have jumped that much majority of people do not care about hd its only a minority fine you like sky stay witht hem and stop trying tio make them out to be better than they are

im not with SKY im with VM so get your facts right !!!!

but the truth is this £49 HD promotion is having a bigger effect than anyone thought it would me included.
i was in town today and the Sky sign up booth had a que of about 30 people so its having a bigger impact than you and VM think it is.

MutleyF 12-02-2009 16:24

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I've been reading this with interest, and thought I'd put my pennyworth in.

I have an HD TV, and like many here I expect, think the upscaling of the V+box is pretty good.

It would be nice if Virgin did offer more channels in HD, but I believe the entire HD sytem is still in its infancy at the moment. If Virgin went down the Sky route and said we could have more HD channels, but had to pay an extra subscription for it, how many of us would honestly sign up ? - I wouldn't. HD is nice, but there are more important things to worry about.

In my opinion, sky have HD - Virgin has Iplayer, and Catch up - and out of the two, I believe Virgin offers me more

cupcakes aka dd 12-02-2009 16:51

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"Hey everyone, I've invented the wheel" :)


Crowd

"No thanks, I'll stick with my Square" ! ! ! ! ! :mad:

sherer 12-02-2009 17:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
we appear to have gone off topic here as this doesn't relate to any channels coming soon so I think if we want to discuss this further we should do that in a new thread

Andrewcrawford23 12-02-2009 17:08

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by joff81 (Post 34732501)
im not with SKY im with VM so get your facts right !!!!

but the truth is this £49 HD promotion is having a bigger effect than anyone thought it would me included.
i was in town today and the Sky sign up booth had a que of about 30 people so its having a bigger impact than you and VM think it is.

and you know everyone was signing up for sky hd do you?

not to burst your bubble but majority of peopel will be dumping sky and virign soon to save costs, i might even neeed to dump virign to save costs even though i dnt want to and i want ot get sky hd but unless the recession shows signs of not getting worse and not turning into depression which there is a 90% chance it will then i cant get it even though i want hd but i am part of the minority

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 34732548)
we appear to have gone off topic here as this doesn't relate to any channels coming soon so I think if we want to discuss this further we should do that in a new thread

correct so probally best to go back to the hd channels we might get

joff81 12-02-2009 17:43

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use your common sense you not going to sign for SKY+ for £79 when you can get the SKY+HD box £30 less are you especially in these times of credit crunch.

Bob 12-02-2009 18:22

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I would if I thought I couldn't afford the extra £10 a month for the HD mix which is required to get the box at that reduced rate...but again this is for another thread :)

Chris 12-02-2009 18:34

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I'm struggling to see the relevance to the topic of anything posted in this thread in the last 24 hours. Please STOP making off-topic postings. Any further off topic postings will be removed.

JMcB 12-02-2009 19:33

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
vote and talk about this here
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...ervice-if.html

wwe 13-02-2009 05:36

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when will itv be coming on vod?

Fingersan 13-02-2009 15:13

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
I know the conversation of the last 24 hours was off topic, but at least it is more interesting than the 'on' topic conversation.

We could close this thread down as the answer to 'Coming soon to Virgin TV' is the same as the last two or three years.... nothing.

daveetwo 13-02-2009 16:10

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Dont read the thread if you dont like the topic. Be original and start a thread with the topics you like.
3 years of nothing = virgin 1, bbc hd, and other channels and thousands of VOD. They may not be what you like and there is never enough new stuff but its not justified to say nothing in 3 years.

Andrewcrawford23 13-02-2009 17:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Fingersan (Post 34733120)
I know the conversation of the last 24 hours was off topic, but at least it is more interesting than the 'on' topic conversation.

We could close this thread down as the answer to 'Coming soon to Virgin TV' is the same as the last two or three years.... nothing.

shows how much you are stuck in the past there has been about 30-40 channels added since virgin became to be

Fingersan 13-02-2009 17:44

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Ok.. I take on board your comments, but really, Virgin has been left behind when it comes to using modern technology. We are at least a couple of years gone by since I was told by virgin customer services that we would get additional HD channels. Now, again, you are correct in saying that we have about an additional 30 channels (albeit half of them +1) but I do think if virgin want to keep their customers then they should start transmitting HD channels. I have been really patient with VM but I feel now that I will have to defect to Sky.

With regard to on-demand, yes it is useful once in a while, but that is just it, once in a while.

I don't want to upset the VM harcore faithful (of which I was one), but I am just getting a bit fed up of being given hope of additional HD channels.

Andrewcrawford23 13-02-2009 20:47

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Fingersan (Post 34733193)
Ok.. I take on board your comments, but really, Virgin has been left behind when it comes to using modern technology. We are at least a couple of years gone by since I was told by virgin customer services that we would get additional HD channels. Now, again, you are correct in saying that we have about an additional 30 channels (albeit half of them +1) but I do think if virgin want to keep their customers then they should start transmitting HD channels. I have been really patient with VM but I feel now that I will have to defect to Sky.

With regard to on-demand, yes it is useful once in a while, but that is just it, once in a while.

I don't want to upset the VM harcore faithful (of which I was one), but I am just getting a bit fed up of being given hope of additional HD channels.

its the same as teh sky channels there wont be that big a mass transfer to sky for hd channels maybe 50000 tops. they aint far behind but the majorityt of channels are sky owned so they aint that many non sky owned hd channel maybe 8 tops

AndyCambs 13-02-2009 21:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Fingersan (Post 34733193)
Ok.. I take on board your comments, but really, Virgin has been left behind when it comes to using modern technology. We are at least a couple of years gone by since I was told by virgin customer services that we would get additional HD channels. Now, again, you are correct in saying that we have about an additional 30 channels (albeit half of them +1) but I do think if virgin want to keep their customers then they should start transmitting HD channels. I have been really patient with VM but I feel now that I will have to defect to Sky.

With regard to on-demand, yes it is useful once in a while, but that is just it, once in a while.

I don't want to upset the VM harcore faithful (of which I was one), but I am just getting a bit fed up of being given hope of additional HD channels.

Sorry to disappoint you but virgin have 53million have over half a million viewers to TV on demand - that's all of BBC iPlayer, and soon ITV on demand - not to mention 4, and Bravo plus other channels. I don't see Sky managing to come even close to that.

Sorry but cable just has the flexibility when it comes to providing services.

one2escape 13-02-2009 21:55

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Cable services should be light years ahead of Sky in terms of the services they should be offering. Virgin are beginning to wake up to this and Sky are now beginning to get a little scared. The next frontier in TV is on demand. Virgin are now pushing this and Sky have now there Sky Player. Sky are limited by Hard Disk Virgin are only limited by the licenses. For me the next step for Virgin On demand is movies like what sky are offering.

Regarding TV we all know Virgins Weakness. HD. They get this sorted and then push on Sky should not touch them however this is Virgin / NTL they have this situation were they snatch defeat from the yaws of Victory.

Andrewcrawford23 13-02-2009 22:20

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i think ewveryone should wait until the pay tv review is over and if ofcom as the intial review suggest will make hitngs like hd and itneractive as part of the rate card and virign do not try to add it withina year then yes virgin have no interes in hd but if they do then they do but do not want to pay over the odds for a limit amoutn of cusotmers.

currently i think they have about 400000-500000 v+ users out of abotu 3.2 million so that gives a pebntation of about 15%

Gadgie 14-02-2009 21:34

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Yea! I must admit that I am also becoming a bit restless with regards to VM adding more H/D Channels. Even though I have been a loyal customer ever since the Telewest takeover, and have been told by customer services that they are indeed coming, the question is..........when?
Having all three of their services with them I feel loath to cancel our TV package, so will bear with it and wait and see what happens, and when?
Cheers, Smudger.

OLD BOY 15-02-2009 16:13

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Originally Posted by Andrewcrawford23 (Post 34733334)
currently i think they have about 400000-500000 v+ users out of abotu 3.2 million so that gives a pebntation of about 15%

Yes Andrew, that's because the majority of people who want HD have gone to Sky.

VM are missing out on a lot of new subscribers as well as defections from Sky by failing to add a good selection of HD channels.

Let's hope that VM's assurance that they will concentrate on their TV offerings this year starts to produce better results.

Mobes 15-02-2009 16:36

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 34734298)
Yes Andrew, that's because the majority of people who want HD have gone to Sky.

VM are missing out on a lot of new subscribers as well as defections from Sky by failing to add a good selection of HD channels.

Let's hope that VM's assurance that they will concentrate on their TV offerings this year starts to produce better results.



It's a valid point. There aren't too many people like myself who can't have Sky (Tree). If i could i would probably have switched by now.

It's also a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts...

Not much HD because the uptake isn;t there and the uptake isn't there becuse there's not much HD etc etc

bayards 16-02-2009 12:16

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I'm a tree person too :( I was on Sky HD until I moved and now the only "current" option is cable with one HD channel. But...

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...ial-tests.html

With London getting a HD Freeview service later this year (earlier than 2012 for the main planned for switchover) I will be ditching Virgin and just rely on Freeview HD until I move again.

Free - i like that word....

H

Media Boy UK 16-02-2009 12:21

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I was told this info over the weekend:

On an Ex-CW Box

DTV_Test1 is now testing showing BBC HD channel with BBC HD EPG but in SD.

Media Boy UK 16-02-2009 17:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
This weeks list update is now online - see post one

Arthurgray50@blu 16-02-2009 17:47

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Hi Mobes, I see that you have a problem in regards to getting Sky, becuase of a tree.

I had this problem, but l spoke to Sky and an engineer came out, he had a look, and he said there was not a problem, if the dish is on the side of the property, they can move it, or even place it on the roof, providing the tree isn't a big elf like about 40 feet high, they can get round it.

I have had Sky for about 10 years now, and the tree is still there.:)

Media Boy UK 16-02-2009 17:50

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Jetix to be Rebrand as Disney XD by April 2010.

Beginning April 1, Jetix France will be rebranded as Disney XD, the country's first boy-focused offering for the 6-to-14 set.

The move comes following the announcement that The Walt Disney Company is taking 100-percent ownership of Jetix Europe. Disney XD is Disney's newest brand in the U.S., having taken over the slot occupied by Toon Disney this week.

Other Jetix branded services expected to follow suit within the year.

http://worldscreen.com/articles/display/19766

Info from worldscreen.com

Arthurgray50@blu 16-02-2009 18:02

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
I think the sooner that VM bring HD channels to the network, the better. At the moment Sky have so many, that are arranging there own EPG numbers, then we have ITV, and now Freeview.

VM will lose so much money over this, As many subs, won't wait any longer.

Mobes 16-02-2009 18:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 34734946)
Hi Mobes, I see that you have a problem in regards to getting Sky, becuase of a tree.

I had this problem, but l spoke to Sky and an engineer came out, he had a look, and he said there was not a problem, if the dish is on the side of the property, they can move it, or even place it on the roof, providing the tree isn't a big elf like about 40 feet high, they can get round it.

I have had Sky for about 10 years now, and the tree is still there.:)

Hey :)

Yeah it's a fecking great Oak tree lol! We've had a few people round and the best they could do was a massive tall mast with the dish on top which would look very very stupid! I'm not THAT desperate for HD.... ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 16-02-2009 18:23

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Hi Mobes, You could always move the satellite, but l don't think Astra would agree to that.

Kymmy 16-02-2009 18:25

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FINAL WARNING GUYS
Can members please keep the thread on topic..

Gadgie 16-02-2009 21:26

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I visited the Sky site just to see what they had on offer, there was a lot of "packages" on offer, and a good price listing, but there was no mention of just what channels you get with those packages?
I don't want to go over the Sky to discover I have lost my favourite channels;)
As I am really thinking of leaving VM, well their TV service that is.

shugg mcglummfer 16-02-2009 21:30

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Re the real topic, "Coming Soon to Virgin TV", I see that Eurosport 1 went anamorphic 16:9 at the end of last week. Bit rates seem better on all broadcasts, so Le Tour should look even better this year. Now just need E2 done, if it is available.

m.massey 17-02-2009 08:46

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2009)
 
hi, an news on BOLD Coming to virgin , i fort it was coming on today? have you got a date yet and are going to some 1p movies on demand?

Thebenster 17-02-2009 10:49

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Originally Posted by shugg mcglummfer (Post 34735093)
Re the real topic, "Coming Soon to Virgin TV", I see that Eurosport 1 went anamorphic 16:9 at the end of last week. Bit rates seem better on all broadcasts, so Le Tour should look even better this year. Now just need E2 done, if it is available.

I hope so too, but watching yesterday's Tour of California it wasn't in widescreen.


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