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dilli-theclaw 12-11-2007 18:02
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34431992)
Have you used one yet?

I find it highly practical to use and as JT is a proper geek he needs internet access to be available 24/7 regradless of location. I'll try take a zoomed in shot of the text for you JT. It does render the text very clearly at max zoom.
Thanks for that :) :tu:

TheBlueRaja 12-11-2007 18:09
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34431754)
£900 ?? Why add the cost of the contract into things. WTF would I want to use payg for. As for £35 a month I don't think that is bad considering you get :

1gb gprs/edge (Approx £7 - £10 worth)
unlimited wifi hotspot (up to £30 on freedom to surf for 20 hours)
200 mins
200 texts

Video on most mobiles is pretty crappy anyway and despite owning (at the time one of the most advanced camera/video phones the k750i) I only took one video on it and that was useless.

I fail to see how surfing on the n95 can be anywhere near as fast as on wi-fi on the iphone anyway. I think those that are knocking it are perhaps too tight to buy one and are jealous ;-)
It actually is a tempting offer, IF it was 3G.

Im paying 30 quid a month at the moment for Vodafone with no Data and 200 mins / Texts any network.

Saying that, i didn't have to pay for my N73.

dilli-theclaw 16-11-2007 16:08
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
I'm posting this from my iPod touch :) so thanks for the pictures and advice it pursuaded me

Help!!! 16-11-2007 19:46
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
had a play on one in Carphone warehouse today, nice bit of kit, I might get a touch 16GB on, not to keen on the phone the testing ain't all that TBH.

SOSAGES 20-11-2007 11:37
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Apple is asking for 30 per cent of subscriber revenue and can't provide enough iPhones for a Christmas 2007 launch in Spain, according to Spanish technology company SevenClick, which reports that it got the information from a senior manager at Telefonica. It also claims the May 2008 launch will see a 3G version of Apple's super-slate.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/19/3g_iphone/

nothing like speculation..i highly doubt we will see a 3g version so soon (especially in the uk)

handyman 20-11-2007 13:23
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SOSAGES (Post 34436908)
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/19/3g_iphone/

nothing like speculation..i highly doubt we will see a 3g version so soon (especially in the uk)
Steve Jobs did state that he did not think they would have the tech to achieve a good 3g battery life in the size of handset they want to manufacture till at least the back end of 2008.

I can see an iphone nano coming out before then.

That said I would have gone for a slightly larger handset with large hard drive and 3g if available as it would still have been thinner than my older xda mini s.

zooloo 21-11-2007 12:30
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
I'm one of the 250000 unlockers, mine runs on Vodafone ... the iPhone is a great phone imho... I don't exactly see what the big deal about 3g is? EDGE is plenty fast enough, I get about 160k stream on my iphone, and I don't live in London or in a "major metropolitan area".

Stuart 21-11-2007 14:03
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zooloo (Post 34437442)
I'm one of the 250000 unlockers, mine runs on Vodafone ... the iPhone is a great phone imho... I don't exactly see what the big deal about 3g is? EDGE is plenty fast enough, I get about 160k stream on my iphone, and I don't live in London or in a "major metropolitan area".
I can get up to 2.8 meg on my 3G phone. Ok, I rarely need to, but the option is there.

zooloo 21-11-2007 14:27
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
I see, thats fast, but does anyone need it? esp considering the phone also has wifi?

I found it interesting to note in the other thread someone started about 3g and video, that very few people actually use 3g for video... it's mainly data... in which case wifi would be my prefered option.

SOSAGES 21-11-2007 16:22
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
WIFI is not always an option ...

Will O2 let UK iPhone users upgrade to the 3G iPhone early?

Quote:
“Usually networks prevent handset upgrades during contract term because the cost of the device is subsidised in line rental over the lifetime of that contract. This is not the case with the iPhone, as all of the handset cost has been paid upfront by the customer at point of sale. If a customer wants to upgrade from the current iPhone to a newer version less than 18 months later, where is the downside for O2? In fact, why not happily upgrade customers to a newer iPhone (taking another small percentage of the hardware sale in the process) and use that opportunity to reset and extend their existing 18 month contract?”
http://www.pocketpicks.co.uk/latest/...-iphone-early/

cimt 21-11-2007 16:26
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7105683.stm

T-Mobile allow people to use a different network on their iPhones in Germany, think o2 will allow that any time soon?

Help!!! 21-11-2007 17:02
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cimt (Post 34437562)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7105683.stm

T-Mobile allow people to use a different network on their iPhones in Germany, think o2 will allow that any time soon?
I don't know if you missed it but
Quote:
T-Mobile will now sell people just the handset for 999 euros ($1,477; £719).
:shocked:

Stuart 23-11-2007 18:18
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Seems there haven't been quite as many activations as expected. 26,000 in the first two weeks as opposed to 100,000 in the first weekend..

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11...e_activations/

That's not to say the iPhone has failed. It's possible a lot of iPhones are christmas (or birthday) presents, so wouldn't have been activated yet. Similarly, those who bought an iPhone and unlocked it won't necessarily need to activate it either.

Stuart 28-12-2007 12:54
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Opps.. O2's GPRS network may lose a lot of capacity. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/63...l#post34459733

handyman 28-12-2007 13:01
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34459858)
Opps.. O2's GPRS network may lose a lot of capacity. http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/63...l#post34459733
Not going to happen overnight. I would imagine that when o2/apple release the 3g iphone if this is an issue they will enable previous customer (moi) to migrate over to 3g. So long as that is 10 months or more away I'd happily shell out for a new iphone.

handyman 30-01-2008 14:54
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Basic £35 tariff on iphone moves from 200min/200text to 600min/500text from mid march.
Other tariffs see price cuts / increases in minutes and texts.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7217184.stm

Woo hoo

Cerberus 30-01-2008 15:28
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
^^

Sales haven't been doing well as expected. Hence the change.

DocDutch 30-01-2008 15:37
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
I wonder if those changes in contracts are going to happen for normal users as well....but then I'm with CPW o2 so I undoubtfully get screwed by them.

Cerberus 30-01-2008 15:52
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34479911)
I wonder if those changes in contracts are going to happen for normal users as well....but then I'm with CPW o2 so I undoubtfully get screwed by them.
They have released their new Q1 Tariffs and I think (from what I recall) data use means unlimited, new selection of inclusive allowance and some new bolt ons.

Just to further point out that some of that info in the BBC article is incorrect. As stated above sales were actually slower than expected. Glasgow CS was going to be nothing but iPhone and a BB contact centre (total of 1500 people). This has since changed and now there are only going to be 2 iPhone specialist teams based in Glasgow (each with around 15 people per team). Also, iPhone enquiries were not as busy as expected to be after launch. I only dealt with about 5 - 7 iPhone queries each day.

handyman 25-02-2008 15:42
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Soon with added iplayer
http://uk.gizmodo.com/2008/02/25/iph...c_iplayer.html

Stuart 25-02-2008 15:56
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Not as much of an advantage as it may seem:

Quote:
The only niggle is that the downloads will only be accessible through Wi-Fi, not EDGE networks.
As with one of the comments on that post, I personally find that generally, if I am near enough a WiFi network, I'm probably near a PC or Mac (in which case it would be better on a larger screen).

Still, it *is* good that the BBC is looking at other outlets.

---------- Post added at 14:56 ---------- Previous post was at 14:54 ----------

As the thread seems to have become more a tips thread, I have renamed it.

punky 25-02-2008 16:13
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I doubt the option to use edge would have been of any use. It would have been far too slow and hammer your data usage. Also, iplayer is p2p, and I don't think phone data is designed for uploading. Plus the iPhone has free access to The Cloud, so you get a fair few hotspots to use.

Also, from Apple's point of view, its dead easy as they can release one update and do iphone and ipod touches together.

dilli-theclaw 25-02-2008 16:14
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I am DEFINATELY going to need a bigger boat.... sorry touch :)

Cerberus 25-02-2008 16:44
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
iPhone SDK is going to be late

Link

Stuart 26-02-2008 01:54
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34495297)
I doubt the option to use edge would have been of any use. It would have been far too slow and hammer your data usage. Also, iplayer is p2p, and I don't think phone data is designed for uploading. Plus the iPhone has free access to The Cloud, so you get a fair few hotspots to use.

Also, from Apple's point of view, its dead easy as they can release one update and do iphone and ipod touches together.
If Iplayer is derived from the web based version (and I believe it is), it isn't P2P.

handyman 27-02-2008 17:20
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
2 Attachment(s)
Can we have a Cable Forum Iphone bookmark icon please? I've attached one if you want to use it. Simply drop it into the web root dir and it should work. I've attached a NTHW one for those that like the old front page as well.

File must be named apple-touch-icon.png

dilli-theclaw 27-02-2008 17:36
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Very nice :)

handyman 27-02-2008 17:49
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Just done one for our work site (www.purplegriffon.com).
Lots of sites are onboard with this already (Gizmodo/facebook/meebo).

Loving the multiple home screens.

Stuart 27-02-2008 19:30
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34431552)
@ Stuart you should try one, I sat and viewed cf for an hour this morning on it and it was fine, certainly better than any device that small.
I have.. I don't say I don't consider something worth the money unless I have tried it.

I found the "keyboard" irritating, and didn't like the fact that the phone frequently lost signal even where other O2 users were getting full signal strength.

I also don't like the way they have crippled the WiFi (at least from a commercial point of view) by not including support for WPA Enterprise.

Damien 27-02-2008 20:22
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34496862)
I have.. I don't say I don't consider something worth the money unless I have tried it.

I found the "keyboard" irritating, and didn't like the fact that the phone frequently lost signal even where other O2 users were getting full signal strength.

I also don't like the way they have crippled the WiFi (at least from a commercial point of view) by not including support for WPA Enterprise.
:tu: Certainly agree with that.

Still really like my iPhone though :D

handyman 27-02-2008 20:25
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Damien, have you tried meebo, found it today and have even more reasons now to waste time at work 'on the loo'.

Damien 27-02-2008 22:03
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Looks like the SDK will only be a week late, But also some enterprise features..

http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...sdk-enterprise


Maybe we will see WPA Enterprise and Exchange Support soon...

---------- Post added at 21:03 ---------- Previous post was at 21:01 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34496893)
Damien, have you tried meebo, found it today and have even more reasons now to waste time at work 'on the loo'.
May well try that! Thanks :)

handyman 06-03-2008 23:51
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34496862)
I also don't like the way they have crippled the WiFi (at least from a commercial point of view) by not including support for WPA Enterprise.
Looks like it will be included in the next software release.

Damien 07-03-2008 00:00
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Yup!

Loads of Enterprise stuff.

http://www.apple.com/iphone/enterprise/

as well as the SDK release

Stuart 07-03-2008 00:07
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34501900)
Looks like it will be included in the next software release.
Good. Might stop a few of our students complaining that our network doesn't work with their iPhones.

dilli-theclaw 07-03-2008 21:17
Re: iPhone UK Release info
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by handyman (Post 34495280)
I am now watching stuff with the BBC iplayer on my touch.

It's not bad I guess. (as long as I'm in range of a wifi spot ;))

Russ 14-04-2008 17:30
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Tip for you all - I have it on very good authority that Apple will be dropping the iPhone price to £169 in the next week or so....

TheBlueRaja 14-04-2008 17:34
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34528245)
Tip for you all - I have it on very good authority that Apple will be dropping the iPhone price to £169 in the next week or so....
Because the V2 iPhone is imminent...

Rumours are 3G (of course) and a doubling of capacity at the same price point.

Damien 14-04-2008 17:37
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34528245)
Tip for you all - I have it on very good authority that Apple will be dropping the iPhone price to £169 in the next week or so....
Nice! But on whose authority or can't you say? :) Reason I ask is Apple Rumors are always like this so you become conditioned not to expect anything until you have 100 difference sources.

The 3G one should be shown at the Apple WWDC event in early June. I hope that this price thing is correct because that would make it easier to upgrade to a model that was 3G and more space!

Also hope O2 make it easy to upgrade to a new version rather than wait for your contract to expire. Hope to go 3g by the time it comes out here (i suspect september/october).

Russ 14-04-2008 17:43
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34528251)
Nice! But on whose authority or can't you say? :) Reason I ask is Apple Rumors are always like this so you become conditioned not to expect anything until you have 100 difference sources.
A mate of mine who works for a certain mobile phone shop (maybe something to do with Cars?) recieved the posters this morning.

LSainsbury 14-04-2008 17:46
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
That still does not persuade me to buy one! Windows Mobile all the way!

Damien 14-04-2008 18:25
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34528258)
A mate of mine who works for a certain mobile phone shop (maybe something to do with Cars?) recieved the posters this morning.
sweet :D

dilli-theclaw 14-04-2008 18:26
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I would think about it if I could get a sim free one.

TheBlueRaja 15-04-2008 18:10
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34528290)
I would think about it if I could get a sim free one.
You can off Ebay...

Cerberus 15-04-2008 18:39
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Apple will not support a SIM free one. Using another operators SIM other than a registered O2 SIM will void the warranty. Purchase one fae eBay by all means, I'm just giving you a heads up.

dilli-theclaw 15-04-2008 18:40
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
A proper sim free one, not one that's been jail broken.

punky 15-04-2008 18:48
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Apparently Australia will be sold a sim-free 3G iphone when it comes out in June.

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04...ked_3g_iphone/

Also the iphone discount has been confirmed:

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/04..._iphone_price/

If you jailbreak it, £169 isn't bad for a wifi phone with 8gb storage, even if it is without 3G. Still come june, I think there will be a ton of iphones going even cheaper :) Can't see any price cuts in the US though. So from tomorrow its £50 cheaper here than in the US. Makes a change.

dilli-theclaw 15-04-2008 19:21
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Well I do fancy one it must be said.

Enuff 16-04-2008 01:41
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I'll stick with my Nokia N95 8gb thanks. :)

Cerberus 16-04-2008 08:27
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34529360)
A proper sim free one, not one that's been jail broken.
A proper SIM free one still won't be supported by Apple here in the UK.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Enuff (Post 34529786)
I'll stick with my Nokia N95 8gb thanks. :)
:tu:

mr_bo 16-04-2008 11:46
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Yes - £169 @ cpw, my wife grabbed one this morning :)

handyman 17-04-2008 02:05
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
FYI re CPW
Quote:
From Wednesday 16th April, the 8GB iPhone is available on O2 only for £169
with 600 minutes, 500 texts and unlimited internet for £35 a month at The
Carphone Warehouse.


- Ultimate Price Promise means those who've purchased in last 30 days will
automatically receive £100

The Carphone Warehouse today announces it is reducing the
price of the 8GB iPhone from £269 to £169 - and that its Ultimate Price
Promise means that people who have recently purchased an iPhone won't lose
out:

If the price the customer paid for their handset on the same network and tariff is
higher than the price listed in our following month's Buyer's Guide, then we'll
send the customer a credit voucher for the difference.

bopdude 17-04-2008 09:15
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I was gonna post that up as well :tu: got to be attractive at that price, IMHO :)

Druchii 17-04-2008 09:20
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I know someone who got one in from America, apparently it's illegal to sell them here as they are locked to one network... So anti-competition laws come into play.

So, they Jailbroke it, or something, a hack to unlock it. And now are stuck with old firmware *giggles*

dilli-theclaw 17-04-2008 09:23
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Then they didnt do it properly. The current iPhone jailbreak is up to 1.1.4

Druchii 17-04-2008 09:27
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34530645)
Then they didnt do it properly. The current iPhone jailbreak is up to 1.1.4
I'll inform them then :)

dilli-theclaw 17-04-2008 09:32
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Yep, he may as well use it to its full potential.

Despite my better judgement I'll probably get one and jailbreak it soon enough.

TheBlueRaja 21-04-2008 20:28
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
According to Engadget the next iPhone could be sold carrier free in Italy...

Now that would set the furry thing amongst the flying rats.

Hom3r 21-04-2008 21:08
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I know two people who have had the iPhone.

They both sent them back and got other phones with in a month.

I cannot print what they said because I'll get banned.

Damien 21-04-2008 21:57
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 34534648)
I know two people who have had the iPhone.

They both sent them back and got other phones with in a month.

I cannot print what they said because I'll get banned.
Thats a shame, I would not take that experience as indicative of the iPhone as a whole which has had a fairly positive reception. Even more so since they announced the enterprise features and the iPhone SDK.

Russ 27-04-2008 09:41
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http://www.geopakistani.com/forums/s...d.php?p=632910

The 3G iphone looks likely to be announced on 9th June.

punky 05-06-2008 16:16
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Some interesting semi-reliable gossip from El Reg....

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06...iphone_latest/

Basically its good news and bad news:

Good: Standard 18-month contract price will be £100. £75 19-month contract will be free, and a PAYG price of £269

Bad: Won't be available here until Christmas.

Tezcatlipoca 06-06-2008 01:29
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I think I'd actually be tempted by that 18 month contract price. Far better than what the old-G iPhone launched at.


Any news if the 3G iPhone will have HSDPA too? Or - too good to be true - a decent camera?

LSainsbury 06-06-2008 07:17
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34568823)


Any news if the 3G iPhone will have HSDPA too? Or - too good to be true - a decent camera?
Isn't 3G / HSDPA virtually the same thing??

jellybaby 06-06-2008 09:23
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
I suppose they are, but with a huge difference in speeds :)

3G up to 384Kbps
HSDPA protentially up to up to 14.4Mbps, but most handsets can do 3.6Mbps

Stephen 06-06-2008 09:24
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34568932)
Isn't 3G / HSDPA virtually the same thing??
HSDPA is more like 3.5G. The speeds of normal £G aren't as fast as HSDPA.

That is why not all handset have HSPDA. I think my Samsung U900 can get upto 7.5mb a sec.

LSainsbury 06-06-2008 10:17
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthYoda (Post 34568966)
£G

LOL!! Not sure if that was a typo, but you hit the nail on the head! :D

Stephen 06-06-2008 11:38
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34569006)
LOL!! Not sure if that was a typo, but you hit the nail on the head! :D
I didn't even notice I did that. It was meant to say 3G:D

Damien 07-06-2008 12:40
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt D (Post 34568823)
I think I'd actually be tempted by that 18 month contract price. Far better than what the old-G iPhone launched at.


Any news if the 3G iPhone will have HSDPA too? Or - too good to be true - a decent camera?
Most properly yes for the HSDPA:

http://www.engadget.com/2008/06/06/i...nd-gps-are-go/

Existing iPhone users, we will properly see the iPhone 2.0 update which has support for 3rd party apps and Exchange support among other things.

Hugh 07-06-2008 15:41
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Some nice iPhone2 mock-ups on Wired

http://www.wired.com/images/slidesho..._concept/1.jpg

http://www.wired.com/images/slidesho..._concept/8.jpg

Russ 08-06-2008 16:03
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Possible 3G iphone pictures leaked:

http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/06/06...eck-and-check/

Derek 09-06-2008 20:40
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
iPhone 3G announced.

3G, GPS, thinner, better battery life. :drool:

punky 09-06-2008 20:44
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Also, apparently faster browsing than the N95 which is going to get the flame war going.

Live blog here: http://live.gizmodo.com

handyman 09-06-2008 20:46
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Want :drool:

TheBlueRaja 09-06-2008 20:49
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
No 32Gig iPhone, bummer, ah well - looks like its going to be a long wait for iPhone 3.

punky 09-06-2008 20:50
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Not bad price either:

8 gb = $199
16gb = $299

Derek 09-06-2008 20:53
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34571620)
8 gb = $199
16gb = $299
I wonder what the UK prices for them will translate out as being?

dilli-theclaw 09-06-2008 20:54
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Um knowing apple £199 and £299 ;) :)

punky 09-06-2008 20:54
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Well leaked sources did say £100 on a contract, so you never know

Derek 09-06-2008 20:56
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
The Apple store doesn't have prices up just yet. Pity it still only has a 2MP camera, thats the one thing I miss from my N95.

http://store.apple.com/uk/browse/hom...ne?mco=MTE2NTQ

Russ 09-06-2008 20:56
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
The new iphone will only have faster browsing than the N95 if it's HSDPA and there doesn't seem to be any mention of that.

Damien 09-06-2008 20:58
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34571627)
The new iphone will only have faster browsing than the N95 if it's HSDPA and there doesn't seem to be any mention of that.
They would not mention that in the keynote really, wait till specs are up

Stuart 09-06-2008 20:59
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34571612)
Also, apparently faster browsing than the N95 which is going to get the flame war going.

Live blog here: http://live.gizmodo.com
In fairness to the n95, the iPhone's CPU is a *lot* faster, so browsing *should* have been faster on the first one..

handyman 09-06-2008 20:59
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek S (Post 34571623)
I wonder what the UK prices for them will translate out as being?
It said those would be the maximum prices worldwide so this is £100.77 and £151.41.

Of course they did state that those where the maximums and there was talk of not restricting the selling price so I would expect them to be free on contract.

I do hope the do a good upgrade deal though i'll probably have one anyway. Anyone want to buy an original v1 iphone?

punky 09-06-2008 21:02
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34571627)
The new iphone will only have faster browsing than the N95 if it's HSDPA and there doesn't seem to be any mention of that.
Does on the Apple website.

Russ 09-06-2008 21:03
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34571631)
They would not mention that in the keynote really, wait till specs are up
But as slow speeds were such an issue for the 1st iphone, you think they'd emphasise the speed on the new one? Just saying '3G' doesn't sound too promising to me. Still as you say, let's wait and see.

Stuart 09-06-2008 21:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34571631)
They would not mention that in the keynote really, wait till specs are up
You are right, we should wait until the specs are up, but generally, I have found that if something gives him a selling point (and high speed *might* be a good selling point), Steve Jobs will mention it in the keynote. He may not say the letters HSDPA, but I think he would mention it.

Damien 09-06-2008 21:06
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By the way the iPhone will have a new os in early July, exchange support, Mobileme replaces .Mac, better mail client, applications etc.

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The US store is up. The iPhone 3g does have HSDPA

Stuart 09-06-2008 21:07
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Well, I have a while to go, but when my contract is up in February, I'll look at the iPhone (Apple have address my concerns with the first one).

Damien 09-06-2008 21:09
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Here are the 3G specs:

http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/features/wireless.html

Russ 09-06-2008 21:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34571637)
The US store is up. The iPhone 3g does have HSDPA
That's good. I still don't see how it can be faster than the N95 though, surely that's down to the network? I know Tmobile's maximum current HSDPA is 1.8mbps whereas 3's is double that and in some parts of London Vodafone are up to 7mbps apparently.

Damien 09-06-2008 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34571647)
That's good. I still don't see how it can be faster than the N95 though, surely that's down to the network? I know Tmobile's maximum current HSDPA is 1.8mbps whereas 3's is double that and in some parts of London Vodafone are up to 7mbps apparently.
Well the iPhone has quite a good browser (for a mobile device) and good hardware. Remember of course Apple would have chosen the best possible conditions to make the comparsion. :p:

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No UK pricing up yet, nor any details of a O2 upgrade policy :(

TheBlueRaja 09-06-2008 21:15
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This isnt that impressive really, its a flashy phone but there is nothing new here that shoudnt have been in the first version.

And only 16Gb is a real dissapointment.

A 32Gb iPhone would have been a real seller for me (as a replacement iPod and phone) but 16gb leaves it in the phone category and as such is a bit lacking IMO.

punky 09-06-2008 22:04
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In a way though its the best move. Keep out everything that's unnecessary and keep the cost down. Better than always pushing the boundaries and keeping the price inflated.

If you want a phone that really does the latter, with everything in a nice iPhone-sized bundle, then you want the Samsung Omnia (i900)


http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...le-phone.phtml

Quote:
Network: HSDPA (7.2 Mbps), EDGE / GPRS 850/900/1800/1900
OS: Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional
Display: 3.2” WQVGA TFT LCD (240 x 400)
Camera: 5 Megapixel CMOS, Auto Focus, Image Stabilizer, Geo-tagging, Auto-Panorama Shot,
Wide Dynamic Range (WDR), Face Detection, Smile Detection
Video: DivX / XviD / H.263 / H.264 / WMV / MP4
Video recording: Video Editing: Trim video, Audio dubbing, Live dubbing, Add subtitle, Image capture
Audio: FM Radio with RDS, MP3/ AAC / AAC+ / WMA / OGG / AMR
Bluetooth Stereo Headset (A2DP)
Value-added Features: GPS, TouchWiz UI, MS Office Document Viewer, Advanced PIM Apps, Push Email, Auto Rotation, TV Out, Connectivity, Bluetooth 2.0 / USB 2.0 / Wi-Fi
Memory: 8GB / 16GB Flash + External Memory slot : microSDHC™
Size: 112 x 56.9 x 12.5
Battery: 1440 mAh
Awesome, but it won't come cheap. It will do 32gb though with 16gb built-in and a 16gb microsd card.

SMHarman 09-06-2008 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34571645)
What happens to it when you take it above 10,000ft / 3,000m then?

Damien 09-06-2008 22:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34571718)
What happens to it when you take it above 10,000ft / 3,000m then?
It goes Crazy!

Ever seen 2001: A Space odyssey? :erm:

Most likely it stops working, rather than getting damaged.

SMHarman 09-06-2008 22:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34571730)
It goes Crazy!

Ever seen 2001: A Space odyssey? :erm:

Most likely it stops working, rather than getting damaged.
But I was wondering why the limitation. I know on the iPod classics etc, anything with a CF or micro HDD they have operating problems as they use air bearings and the thinner air does not work as an effective bearing. The iPhone has no moving parts in it so i don't see why altitude would be a problem.

TheBlueRaja 09-06-2008 22:23
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by punky (Post 34571702)
In a way though its the best move. Keep out everything that's unnecessary and keep the cost down. Better than always pushing the boundaries and keeping the price inflated.

If you want a phone that really does the latter, with everything in a nice iPhone-sized bundle, then you want the Samsung Omnia (i900)


http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/ne...le-phone.phtml



Awesome, but it won't come cheap. It will do 32gb though with 16gb built-in and a 16gb microsd card.
Yeah, but its just a Windows Mobile phone with haptics. I'd like the new iPhone with 32Gig before i jump from my N73 and iPod 4G.

Damien 09-06-2008 22:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34571734)
But I was wondering why the limitation. I know on the iPod classics etc, anything with a CF or micro HDD they have operating problems as they use air bearings and the thinner air does not work as an effective bearing. The iPhone has no moving parts in it so i don't see why altitude would be a problem.
Weird, I see your point. Not sure, The iPhone spends most of it's time connected. So maybe there are signal problems? Could run non-connected apps such as iPod mode or games.

Maybe there is a moving part?

Tezcatlipoca 09-06-2008 22:27
Re: iPhone Tips (was UK Release info)
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34571645)

Same crappy 2MP camera then?

No sign of MMS either.



Still, HSDPA & GPS are definite improvements.


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