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Chelsea absolutely battered us, and we still didn't concede :)

Laursen more than deserved Man of the Match, but it could have been any of the back four today - I'd have been happy with a 0-0, but this was just a fabulous result :D

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Yes, did you see Deadly Doug sat behind him and then shake his hand as he left? He had a huge smile on his face :D

Yeah, me too. Funnily enough my Big Sis had tickets to the game... we were going to go and take my nipper along. However, as it would be his first Villa game I said we'd watch us play against another team - one that we stood a good chance of winning, as I didn't want his first experience to be a bad one. Really wish we'd gone, cause the atmosphere seemed electric - although the language was colourful at times too (especially the chants aimed at Terry, Drogba and Mourinho).

As such, my Sis flogged the tickets to a friend of her's... who is a big Chelski fan :D

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Talk about an amazing coincidence,

FC United the team founded by disgruntled Man U supporters upset by the Glazers takeover played in the FA Cup preliminary rounds over the weekend. The club, now in the Unibond Div 1 Nth, on level four of the pyramid, beat Trafford FC 5-2 to progress to the qualifying round proper. Their opponents in that game will be Fleetwood Town.

Over a century ago, Newton Heath FC's first ever game in the FA Cup was also against Fleetwood Town. :cool: If they manage to win six more games in the competition they could be drawn against the Reds. :shocked:

Jim.

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And then be annihilated ;)

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Hmm I'd have loved to see what he could do with a team like Barcelona or even England

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...al/6981442.stm

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I wouldn't mind him getting the England job, having said that, why would anyone in their right mind take it though..............apart from the money that is.

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He might do the same as Henry, sign a new deal and one year later realise he signed it with the wrong club...

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Unlikely, apparently he holds dear the fact he has never broken a contract, men with integrity are pretty rare in football these day's

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Hell of a lot of prestige comes with it to, as well as the weight of press and public expectation of course, I mean we ran Big Phil out of the job before his appointment was even announced, quite an achievement really :rolleyes:

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Guus Hiddink should have been employed to do the job, and maybe, just maybe he will get one over on England next Wednesday.

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well England managed to beat Israel..... lets see what happens weds :)

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I actually thought Heskey had a good game along with Wright Phillips and Micah Richards, which hopefully bodes well for the future.

My only gripe is that after Richards goes on his sorties into the oppostion half of the field and it comes to nothing, he ought to get back quicker , rather than ambling as though he has a fortnight to do it.

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Same old Hesky though, missing chances, the real problem is our best two forwards don't play well together

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Russ not mentioning the footy tonight then ? :D

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No because Russ has been in Ireland for a week and has been driving since 9pm last night and is, as they say in the trade, knackard :spin:

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edit: What, we got beat by one of the best sides in Europe? Come on, I'm sure England know how that feels ;)

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The difference is though when we lose you and your insecure little buddies use it to try and have a dig, similar to what you just attempted there, Wales or Scotland lose and we barely even notice, your countries just aren't relevant

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Ouch, that could be game set and match, lol.......

Wasn't Owen's goal brilliant?

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Well someone asked where I was ;)

And I'm sure you'll agree I'm not insecure at all :)

Just pointing out that whereas we lost to Germany, so did the Saesneg.

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owens goal was good.

mcfaddens for scorland was better.

not sayin scotland are the better team, but if england had pulled the two world cup finalists in the qualifiers... wonder if they'd still be in a challenging position in the group. and i wonder if we'd ever stop hearing about how well they were doing and how hard a group they had got and how it just wasnt fair :(

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This type of story about Man Utd keeps on popping its head up in the news.....

For £1 Billion IIRC

Now this....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/6986096.stm

I am beginning to wonder if there is any truth in it at all.

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Being a Spurs fan, l want to change the subject a bit, and say that the problems at White Hart Lane, should be that Martin Jol SHOULD stay as Manager, he is well loved by the fans, and you can stick any manager who is thinking of contacting Daniel Levy about taking over, it should be Levy who should leave, and l thought that l would never say that, l know from todays papers, that there is a mystery buyer, prepared to buy out Levy and Enic. so MARTIN MUST STAY, he is better than Sir Alex

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:rofl:
Arthur you must be a WUM

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Hello The Daddy, What is a WUM, if it is what l think it is, the answer is no, l am not mad, l was only joking when l said that Martin was better than Sir Alex, he is a brilliant manager, there are only a few managers, in the Sir Alex mould, one is Bill Nicholson, the greatest manager that Spurs has ever had and the other is the man who SHOULD have been England manager and that was the great Brian Clough.

It would have been great is Sir Alex could have managed England, he would have kick some butt, but the anger amonst Spurs, that Martin is being treated poorly by the Spurs board, and l for one, who has supported Tottenham all my life and that is well over thirty years, will always appreciate that Martin has taken us into Europe TWICE in two years, after many years in the wilderness, Up the Lillywhites.:)

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Perhaps he has been treated badly but then we don't know what has gone on behind closed doors and imo his performances haven't made him untouchable, he has won nothing, in fact he had only ever won one trophy in over 10 years as a manager and any manager that spends the amount of money he has should be put under pressure and as for Fergie being England manager, didn't he take a pretty good Scotland team to Mexico '86, they didn't win a game IIRC.

Btw WUM = Wind Up Merchant

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Hello The Daddy, l am a good WUM, and l can take WU as well.
We will win the the Premier League and FA Cup this season.:)

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yep very true. Also for some strange reason he didn't take Alan Hansen to the final's either

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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you're not ;) :D

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Avoiding relegation would be an achievement :D

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Not very good news for Man Utd according to "MUST"

http://www.joinmust.org/forum/showth...203#post215203

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This is bad (and i'm a Liverpool fan)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6990458.stm - Sir Alex Ferguson attacked

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I suspect i'm going to get red-repped to hell for this but...

Can we give the attacker a knighthood as well?

Ferguson is a horrible little bully of a 'man' who uses violence and intimidation. I think his come-uppance is long overdue. He kicks objects at people's faces, almost blinding them, and shows no remorse or decency

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Thats a horrible thing to say, your basically saying it's ok to go around and mug and assault old men in the street :(

I think you'll find Ferguson is one of the nicest most respected people in the game and when has he ever bullied or nearly blinded people?

Your as bad as the person that assaulted him imo saying stuff like that.

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bullied: Jaap Stam, Keane, Beckham to name a few
blinded: Beckham.

okay its wrong for abuse but hey its the UK its happening everywhere now so why not to Alex Ferguson. it was probably a mugger that wanted some of his cash of which he has more then enough, havent seen if the guy is a supporter of any team yet but it would be funny if it was a ManUre supporter as london is full of those

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Its not OK to assault and mug people, and two wrongs don't make a right, but there is a certain sense of justice in a happy slapper getting slapped.

Anyway Beckham might disagree with the not-almost-blinding-people remark.

He may have respect for his winnings, but anyone that has to use the violence and intimidation that he does, to get results, doesn't deserve respect.

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I think you'll find they both said it was an accident.

When has Ferguson ever assaulted someone then? Or even used any form of violence? I think you need to get your facts right before you comment on things like this.

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shadow, what do you call a boot being thrown at your head?

think that would class in some ways as ASSAULT ;)

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I've only had a quick search for an article but -

http://www.squarefootball.net/articl...e.asp?aid=3811

People really need to get their facts right before they say it's ok to assault a pensioner for no good reason.

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Accidents happen all the time. You just happen to be a person with a renouned temper, who after a defeat against a bitter rival, accidently trips over a boot lying around, causing it to fly across the room at someone's face.

Ferguson's violence, with hair-dryer treatments and throwing cups (stop me if you see a pattern here) is well-documented. You can believe what you want.

My first comment about the knighthood is sarcasm, and there is no excuse for violence. I hope the attacker is prosecuted fully, but I can't shed a tear over someone who uses violence and intimidation as tools-of-the-trade.

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I quite agree, the author can call it folklore, I prefer to call it thugery, the game has worked hard to remove such elements amongst the fans, only to be undermined by his actions, it would be rough justice if it were a Liverpool fan that did this, given his almost constant provocative statements over the years about their fans

There are several stories mentioned in relation to Ferguson's hot temper which have nearly passed into folklore. The most notable of these stories involve Sir Alex's kicking a football boot at David Beckham, his throwing of teacups during motivational halftime speeches, and his famed "hair-dryer treatment" in which he vents his ire (and often abuse) directly into a recalcitrant player's face.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Ferguson

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Fergies rants and 'attacks' at players during half time have been well documented but let's remeber they happened in the confines of a dressing room, where the relationship between manager and player/employee is not the same as in other lines of work. yes he rants and raves and throws things at them , and these 'motivational' tools might be dubious, but its important to remember they only happened in the confines of the dressing room and to members of Man Utd. From what I see of him outside football he's a pleasant man, doesnt come across as a bully or a violent man.

Its out of order he's been attacked and I think its out of order to imply that he can be seen as deserving it for how he is in the changing room. As has earlier been pointed out, the guy is a pensioner, and he didnt deserve that no matter what 'previous' form he has.

Im not a Utd or Fergie fan btw. Oh and Im also suprised that one of the highest paid managers (I assume he is) in footy is actually commuting on a train. Nice one.

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It was only a couple of months back he came out and undermined the efforts of both Liverpool and Man Utd football clubs to make the 'rivalry' between them more friendly, it's the last in a long line of inflammatory statements, things like 'Rooney is as volatile as he is because he is from Liverpool' etc and he has quite a reputation for bullying officials on tv as well and that is just what we see him do in front of the media, he sounds like a lovely bloke :rolleyes:

Who said he deserved it, more of a case of what goes around comes around imo

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i'd hardly call Fergie a violent man. Sure he shouts at people during HT team talks but that is all about creating motivation. Shouting isn't being violent.

I don't think there is any documented edivence of Fergie shouting, throwing tea cups or kicking football boots at people during his normal everyday life away from football.

he's great at man management and he knows if he has to throw a tea cup to get the team worked up and put in a performance then he will.

if he just said oh well we're loosing lads try a bit harder I don't think he would still be at United any more

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I'm sorry but what your saying is just stupid, basically what your saying is that if you made a statement that i disagreed with i could assault you because of it. Even if he had assaulted someone, which he hasn't, does that make it alright for someone to assault him?

I think some people read too many articles from the sun or news of the world about Ferguson, it's funny how all the players he's managed have the upmost respect for him, i'm sure they wouldn't if he had assaulted or thrown tea cups at them :rolleyes:

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Do footballers still drink tea? Or does Fergie have his own stash tucked away to throw?

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I've just compiled a list, of all known 65 year olds, in my area. They are all names of pensioners, who are very bad tempered, and have had a previous history of bullying. Now, where's my baseball bat..........

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Yes of course I meant that when I said Who said he deserved it, more of a case of what goes around comes around imo still nice attempt at a parody though

As I said no one has said he deserves it and you call me stupid?

Course I realise you think the sun shines out of his backside, wonder how many people might get hurt because of his ill judged comments about Utd and Liverpool's rivalry and how many people wasted their time trying to build ties between the clubs, btw I get most of news and information from the BBC where do you get yours from United press releases?

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Here you go Russ :tu:

Slovakia 2-5 Wales

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/6985879.stm

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I thank you! :D

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:eek:

Who's the babe singing England's supposed national anthem? She a hottie :romance:

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Who took the old, error-prone, boring England away in a spaceship and brought out this lot? If this is what happens when Lampard gets injured, we'll have that bloke who kicked Fergie hired to kick Frank whenever he looks like getting up. Barry is superb, why the hell didn't we have him alongside Gerrard before? Perfect man for the role.

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Yes if Mclaren has any sense he won't be rushing Rooney and Lampard back into the team

Btw Russ I seem to remember Motty saying the girls name was Sayer something an Australian

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I'd forgotten Rooney. He might destabilise it - there's no one playing badly enough to drop for him, surely?

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Heskey. I wouldn't say he was bad but hardly inspiring and wouldn't be all that missed IMO.

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Heskey has a talismanic effect on Owen, who scores a goal-a-game alongside him. It doesn't matter that Heskey scores 0 at that rate, between them they're an excellent international strike pair. Football isn't all about putting the best 11 players you have on the field, witness Lampard/Gerrard, where the world+dog has known for three or four years that they can't play together.

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Yep Rooney and Owen don't play well together either, I used to think that supposed World class players should be able to adapt their game to suit any team mate, the last couple of World cups have taught me different

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How about Paul Robinson?

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edit: I can't believe Cole got booked for that!

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Surprise surprise, Heskey's off.

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Resting him :D

How about the Jocks good result for them, sitting pretty on top of the group to boot :tu:

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Something's wrong - TBR hasn't shown up :D

Cracking goal from Rio - almost makes me want to exercise my English half :D

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He is probably trolling on a French website :D

Like I have said before Russ, we can adopt you if you like ;)

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OMG the jocks beat the french :O

must be dreaming that

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Cracking performance tonight :)

I have to say that (and I'm echoing the Beeb here), if it wasn't for Owen scoring two, I honestly believe that Barry would have got Man of the Match. A Villa player :D

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I still reckon he will lose his place to Fat Frank next time though, McClaren wont have the balls to keep him in the side and drop Lampard :rolleyes:

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Imagine our bench if he does the right thing, Rooney and Lampard, talk about super subs

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Which is a crying shame, becuase he's done really well :(

Still, at least if he's in the squad, he might get on as a sub when they realise that, for whatever reason, Gerrard and Lampard seem to cancel each other out...

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Estonia at home next, I can't see him being dropped. Personally, I'd stick with a winning team, let the prima donna's sit on the bench. ;)

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If it wasn't for the fact I was drunk beyond belief I'd agree with you about the dreaming bit.
Top of the group with three games to go. If you'd have said that when the 'group of death' was drawn I'd of offered a kidney and most of my liver to be in this position.

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How are your liver and kidneys this morning, then?

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WE'LL BE COMING, WE'LL BE COMING,
WE'LL BE COMING ROUND THE ROAD.
WHEN YOU HEAR THE NOISE OF THE TARTAN ARMY BOYS
WE'LL BE COMING ROUND THE ROAD.

1 Scotland 9 7 0 2 17 7 10 21
2 Italy 9 6 2 1 15 7 8 20
3 France 9 6 1 2 15 3 12 19
4 Ukraine 8 4 1 3 10 9 1 13
5 Lithuania 9 3 1 5 7 11 -4 10
6 Georgia 9 2 1 6 14 15 -1 7
7 Faroe Islands 9 0 0 9 3 29 -26 0

WHOOOOOO!

Dear god im still drunk.

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I noticed the ex Arsenal thug, Vierra is still trying to maim United players, took Darren Fletcher out of the game with a nasty, gouging tackle.:mad:

Jim.

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i was at the game last night. Despite Euro 2008 being sponsored by a brewery it the stadium was dry under UEFA rules, even though we still had the Carlsberg advertising.

Was a good win but still didn't think we was brilliant. We was very narrow at times and followed the ball for too much.

Wright-Philips wasn't great but at least we weren't at our best and still got a win something that we haven't done in recent times.

Also how to prem players cope when they are on international duty. The official beer of the Premier League is Budweiser and the Official beer of England is Carlsberg :D Plus say Villa have an official beer that isn't any of them two what happens then ?

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Both very tired after being abused greatly by some deeply irresponsible person drinking way too much.

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Your not alone mate.. I think we both :dig: though... :D

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FRENCH STAR IN BETTING SCANDAL!!!

Frank Ribery had McFadden to score and Scotland to win 0-1.

Unfortunately for him, bookies are refusing to pay out due to the state of his coupon.

Disgrace! :D

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:redcard:

Anyway for those of you supporting the blue section of Glasgow football in case you don't know the game is on Sky One on Wednesday night.
Not much help for those on VM but might allow you to watch it at a mates house instead of the local pub.

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Excuse me? Arsenal at the top of the league? Stranger things have happened I suppose. Each year some cheeky little upstart tops the league and has delusions of winning it til about November at which point they simply fade back in to mediocrity, so I fully expect nature to take its course this season too.

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Any of these 'cheeky little upstarts' have Cesc Fabregas on the strength? Thought not. We're contenders, better get used to it.

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Wow, not seen you round these here parts since oooooh, Arsenal last looked like winning something? Perenial contenders yes, actual title winners? No. Thankfully your team's brief blip as the possible major force in English football is safely behind us.

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Arsenal are still a majorish force. Certainly a top 4 team. :confused:

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I didn't say they're not - what I did say was....

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Russ we will take at the end of the season, look at Manure's defence now...how many out for a long time?

also looking forward to a Manure vs Arsenal now...see what happens ;) as I think that Arsenal would wipe the Manure away :D

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Maybe, But Arsenal have lost a lot of good players and they are being replaced. Arsenal have a very young team. Theres no reason the team cannot return to the levels of the team that had the unbeaten season. They just need more experience, last year was essentially a new team. This year they are doing better.

Arsenal, Manchester United, Chelsea all have a shot at the title. IMO.

Also the over-confident Spurs have started badly :erm: I think their confidence in their side were vastly over-the-top. They do not have a top 4 team, It's bizarre they were sure they did and are talking about sacking Jol because he struggles against the big four, of course he does! They are the top four! Spurs are not a team that should be challenging for the title. 5th place last year was a great job for them.

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Unbeaten in the premiership, not an unbeaten season ;)

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We're weak at left back but Rio and Vidic have never looked better.

Yes, because Arsenal beating United would mean the title going to Emirates. Like last season?

I predict a 3rd trophyless season for them.

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Could well be, But it's a young, talented, team, and now a club with a better source of income. The futures bright! :)

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I'll bet that 'better source of income' won't come from those empty seats in the stadium.

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You tried getting a ticket for a Arsenal game? Not sure why those seats are empty but someone has sure paid for them

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Yes mate I try all the time....

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United are also a young, talented team, but they are actually winning things ;):)

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woo hoo cambridge still not lost

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It will happen though obviously, and Saturday is probably a good bet against Stevenage away.
They should get a result tomorrow night away against Altrincham, a win or a draw.

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stevange away be hard deff good team been once they look good

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Nice sporting gesture, in a time when greed and selfishness rule

:tu: To both clubs

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...st/7001796.stm

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Yep, as predicted though the U's beat Altrincham 3 - 0

Whatever is going on at Histon though Histon 4-5 Torquay :erm:

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Agreed :tu:

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Very impressed with that. How will it work though? Can the FA sanction it? Or will all the players just stand to one side and let them score?

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It happened tonight, the goalkeeper scored in the first minute so i would have thought they just stood to one side and allowed them to score.

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They gave him the ball and let him walk it into the net, pretty much.

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Saturday will be hard.
histon scoring 4
shock a match with 9 goals rare

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Another unconvincing performance by Man Utd, but another 1 - 0 win, this time over Sporting Lisbon :shrug:

Somebody somewhere is going to get a hammering if it all comes together. Let's hope it is Chelsea at the weekend ;)
But I have a sneaking feeling a few more games are required yet.

Oh and VDS for Man of the Match

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Hearing on radio that Jose Mourinho has quit Chelsea. Maybe it was all those eggs........ :D

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much as it pains me to say it but well done to VDS. We didn't have a good game at all. Giggs didn't even touch the ball in the second half and I have to say I think he should retire now. Or maybe Fergie could actually drop him for being so poor.

I still don't rate VDS but at least he performed and well done to Ronaldo for showing some respect to his old club.

Much as Jose can be an arrogant so and so when he isn't stuck up his own back side he can be an entertaining manager

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Well, that's 2 pub teams Spurs have beaten this season. I'm glad the Everton game was on channel 5, much more of a contest.