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**** me , 14 pages about a pair of trainers and some ppl still dont get it :disturbd: , he shouldnt have worn them , end of conversation , nuff said :erm:

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

**** me , 14 pages about a pair of trainers and some ppl still dont get it :disturbd: , he shouldnt have worn them , end of conversation , nuff said :erm:

That's the point. While I agree that he should have followed the school rules (based in what I read in that article), some poeople don't agree. Everyone "gets" it, it's just not everyone agrees the school is right.

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Originally Posted by scastle

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Originally Posted by Electrolyte

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Quite correct, if this exam was so important to him why didn't he take the schools offer of wearing a pair of shoes, just for an hour or two while he sat his exam.

He wouldn't use a pair from lost property (or what ever it is called) as he stated he had medical problems with his feet.

I don't know the school, or exactly what happened. However, one thing I do know is that at Uni, we have procedures in place that enable us to make allowances for students with medical conditions. I'll admit that students are allowed to wear what they want anyway, so there are no rules for what they wear in exams (unless they turn up with the answers written all over their shirt), but I am pretty sure the school would have procedures in place for them to make allowances for medical conditions.

That medical conditions lark is bull sh*t though.

If it was true:
- he would be entitled to wear them, had he checked, as it's the school's decision. If he has proof then that's fine. Blimey, you get 5% more marks if your moggy dies before an exam!
- it soon f*cked off after the problem came to light, because he said he'd wear the proper shoes in future
- it was blatantly bull to avoid wearing the other shoes, he had a CHOICE and he CHOSE to go home
- no doctor would recommend wearing plastic trainers over normal leather shoes because they make your feet sweat more exacerbating any medical condition he would have.

TBH, it's cr*p.

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Originally Posted by scastle

Of course.We make allowances and provision for reading,writing and learning difficulties.Broken legs,pregnancy,school phobics you name it it will be accomodated PROVIDED we know in advance.As far as the Special Needs Assistants are concerned they will accomodate those with known special requirements right up until the point of no return.We are very accomodating provided there is discussion BEFORE the day of the exam.

All we expect is that students try to shoulder some of the responsibility that is theirs to shoulder.They have to notify us BEFORE the start on an exam of any potential problems.

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NFFC, I think the medical reasons were directed at wearing someone else's shoes rather than shoes per se. Could be wrong. TBH that does sound lame.

Scastle, with you totally.

Everyone - this has got v dull. Should we invite Nugget in for some enlivening punning? :)

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Originally Posted by andyl

I think he's on holiday - he's certainly been conspicuous by his absence lately! ;)

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Originally Posted by andyl

From the original link.

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The school said he was offered alternative shoes from lost property but he chose to go home instead.

Adam said he chose to return home because he did not want to wear someone else's shoes because of a medical problem with his feet.

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Originally Posted by andyl

NFFC, I think the medical reasons were directed at wearing someone else's shoes rather than shoes per se. Could be wrong. TBH that does sound lame.

As incog said... Chose not to "because of a medical problem with his feet"... so, there was the implication the problem was with his feet not with wearing the other shoes.

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Originally Posted by nffc

As incog said... Chose not to "because of a medical problem with his feet"... so, there was the implication the problem was with his feet not with wearing the other shoes.

He said "he did not want to wear someone else's shoes" because of his "medical condition"

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Originally Posted by nffc

As incog said... Chose not to "because of a medical problem with his feet"... so, there was the implication the problem was with his feet not with wearing the other shoes.

He said "chose not to wear someone else's shoes"

Yes he said "chose not to wear someone else's shoes because of a medical problem with HIS feet" NOT with the shoes!

Surprised that needed spelling out! ;)

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Now now - play nice people. :)

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NFFC, I did get your point honest ;) but you can't highlight one part of a sentence's construction whilst ignoring other pertinent parts.

Shall we let this one lie (otherwise I'll start talking about life in the Third Division :) )

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Originally Posted by Paul M

Now now - play nice people. :)

I can't be false can I :evil: ;)

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

and i choke on this thread , time to unsubscribe methinks :(

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666

Look the parents mother must not think much to school rules if she sent that boy to school in traniners, it is disrespectful to the school and it faulnts the rules that the school has set out.
I agree with coggy and we are both hard work professionals anyone has a go I will gladly go and lay them out in the car park after work, hey it aint a problem!

And exactly what would that prove ???

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Originally Posted by dr wadd

Hardly a professional attitude if you claim you will "lay them out in the car park". In my mind the threat of violence is a lot worse than wearing incorrect shoes. I fear that you have your priorities all screwed up.

:tu:

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Originally Posted by orangebird

I'm a hardworking person too Allie. And no, I don't have children - but this does not make my opinion any less valid than yours. I did used to have to wear a school uniform when I was at school.. I didn't always get it perfectly right though. Mainly because money was tight for my parents back then and the option of owning school shoes & 'playing out' shoes wasn't really there, so I wore whatever were decent. But my parents would NEVER have accepted the school dismiss me from an exam just becaue I had the wrong colour/style of shirt/socks/shoes etc. Bullies get less discipline these days in school than the poor sod in this article did. I never realised there was such a bunch of little Hitlers on here

:tu: not everyones opinion is less valid.

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Bloody hell, have a greenie on me

:tu: both have a greenie on me.

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666

really sorry for being a swot when I was at school then. It isnt that hard to stick to a uniform is it?? Sorry Coogy didnt mean to drag you in. I have a very professional atitude thank you very much and people always comment on it when I am at work. What sort of Dr are you??? I do not think you a medical? so what sort are you???
It is down to respect and rules and before you bleat on about dont you ever break them, well no as it is more than my jobs worth and I enjoy doing it, so why risk losing it!
Outside of work is totally different as I let my hair down, so breaking a few rules wont hurt! Please do not make comments about my priorities as you do not know me and to be honest I couldnt give a damn. Like Paul said before are you perfect as you seem to think you are making rude comments like that. The boy needs to be taught rules, and that is simple.

There you go again dragging personal insults and questioning people.

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Originally Posted by dr wadd

Does it really matter?

Saying you have your priorities incorrect because you are willing to resort to violence to solve your problem is hardly rude. If anything, your response to that criticism only strengthens my opinion that your priorities are screwed up.

And please don`t claim you "don`t give a damn", your responses clearly indicate that you do very much "give a damn".

If you are so determined that the boy should be taught rules, when should you be taught the rules that you cannot lay people out in a carpark? Or do the rules not apply to you?

Obviously rule do not apply to Allie and If I could give you another greenie I would but I have to spread it about a bit first.

So have a virtual :beer: instead on me.

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Originally Posted by orangebird

A bit, yes. You're 'professional', but you'd 'lay someone out in the carpark'?

Some of your don't so you an awful lot of credit either Allie...

You think he was being disrespectful? At least he turned up for the bloody exam - which is more than some children do these days!!!!

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Originally Posted by ntluser

Given that we have just had a twelve year old charged with GBH and perverting the course in the near death of a five year old child and given that the new practice of "happy slapping" is regarded as "fun" among teenagers, I think we need to help this generation of teenagers to develop greater maturity, respect for others and greater practical personal independence.

Maybe if there was a national code of practice/behaviour for pupils, parents and teachers, we could improve all standards in schools and in homes too.

Agreed have a greenie on me.

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666

It was a joke hahaha, some people do not have sense of humour or have a bypass?? Oh sorry for speaking my mind and that I am a stickler for rules, like I say just wait untill the big day happens and then you will feel differently, you certainly like attacking me and Paul dont you???
So he knew he had to wear a uniform why push it??? They do not officially leave school untill their last exam, wearing trainers in an exam when you are not suppossed to you may as well go into the exam and scream abuse at the examiner! I forgot I live in the real world with Paul:erm:

Speaking the mind is one thing, personally attacking others is another, from what I have read it is not others who is doing the attacking but merely discussing it but then it is yourself that chooses to resort to attacks.

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Originally Posted by allieyoung666

Erm you! How dare you say that about my family, you are bang out of order! I feel sorry for you. rules are rules get over it!

Me thinks it is you that needs to learn the above about rules not the others. (see below).

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Originally Posted by Simon M

Hmmmm ..... Not MY opinion Allie.

I saw his post as a lighthearted summarisation of all that has gone on in this thread.

I really think you need to calm down. Just becasue someone posts something you don't like does not mean that they are wrong.

Your posts over recent times have come across as angry, and with that frame of mind it will be particularly easy for people to wind you up.

Please consider your posts before you hit the button.

I have watched your posting style, and am saddened by the fact you seem to be perpetually spoiling for a fight. If I am wrong, please PM me and we will discuss.

Remember, this is a forum, it's virtual. If someone is getting under your skin, walk away for a while, calm down, and then post.

:clap: Hoorah at last the Mods/Admin are even wising up to some of your attitudes/postings.

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Originally Posted by Chris T

Can I just draw everybody back to the central fact of the case here: regardless of whether you think the school was in the right, or heavy handed, they DID NOT kick him out of the exam. They offered him a range of solutions. He opted to go home for his own shoes, and HE DECIDED FOR HIMSELF that he would not have time to get back to school. We have only his word for it that there was no time.

Exactly I think he was given the option and he made his own call on the situation.

All be it somewhat so he says based on a medical condition.

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

**** me , 14 pages about a pair of trainers and some ppl still dont get it :disturbd: , he shouldnt have worn them , end of conversation , nuff said :erm:

I refer the honourable gentleman to post 139 in this very thread.

:PP:

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head above parapet to concur with carlingman on many points.

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head above parapet to concur with carlingman on many points.

As long as it's not head from under bridge. :p: :D

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As long as it's not head from under bridge. :p: :D

Cheeky scamp. Although I'm not a tall chap and I did feel a little green yesterday (must have been that Stella/whiskey combo from the night before I reckon). :)

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:)

I refer the honourable gentleman to post 139 in this very thread.

:PP:

i changed my mind , i like to see who is getting torn to shreds by the smelly little green ppl ;)

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A reference to post #166? :p: :D

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no , it is linked to rather more posts than i care to spend the time to list ;) , it seems to me to be a case of who can be the biggest smartarse who take great delight in tripping ppl up :(

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On a light-hearted note: I wonder if pupils will be allowed to sit this exam wearing trainers.

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On a light-hearted note: I wonder if pupils will be allowed to sit this exam wearing trainers.

well for any practical, they will be expected to wear trainers.For a sit down theory paper in the exam room no I don't think so. ;)

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Why couldnt they do that when I was at school???? It is a good idea though

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This subject has caused nothing but trouble, and seems to have reached a natural break .... closing.

Maybe a few need to reflect on what was posted and consider if in hindsight it was a worthwhile post.

Insighting trouble, picking on other members, bullying, personal insults, etc. Nice way to behave ... I think not.

This seems to have been a troublesome week ... something I would not like to see repeated. Please ALL have consideration for the other members and the Team.