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Thought Victor was cool in the diary room on this evenings show. "Gonna alpha male them to death!" :D

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*pops up*

How does Cancun grab ya? :) Seriously though, if you hate them, you'll want to watch it even more. This year, they'll pay. They'll suffer. They'll earn their prize money. I'm only watching to see what happens next. No, honestly. :angel: :)

Plus it is hilarious to listen to them talk b******s too.

With Emma confessing she's been with another woman before is nice too. I don't know how much you'd find that appealing though. She's from Manchester though, if that helps :)

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I cracked up at his intrepretation of what DNA stands for: "Dis Negro's Attractive". :rofl:

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the majority of the housemates are annoying so far this year, but im still gonna watch it!! and get that kitten out - she needs putting down - trouble causer from hell :mad:

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Good isn't it?. That put a gay xenophobe in with a homophobic aslyum seeker. They put in a transsexual who everyone is going to hate. If only because her boobs are perter then theirs. They have put an activist in who hates everyone who hates anyone. All they are missing is a Sun-reading brick laying white van man.

I'l be bitterly disappointed if it doesn't kick off. Already Kitten is moaning and organising a revolution against BB. In the first day.

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She is from Oldham actually, in spite of various Government's attempts to pigeon hole us, Oldham is, always has been, and always will be in Lancashire, not some abomination called Greater Manchester.:mad:

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you don't have a web-cam do you bb31 ? ;)

- just that sounds way more exciting than BB :pp :jk:

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I see the D.O.M are out in force tonight,;)

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Live feed from BB31's living room, me sprawled on chair drinking Baileys and on laptop, BB31 on settee smoking and on laptop. Both eating doritos and sour cream dip. Tell me, can you bear the excitement :rolleyes:

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whats DOM?? :confused:

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Well the M is for Men.;)

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:Yikes: Oh No, It's Back On :Yikes:

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Muwa - Muwa ha ha - Muwa ha ha ha ha :D

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I guess you've not been watching E4 then? ;)

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run baby run!!!!!!!!! :shocked: :Yikes: :shocking:

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Totally agree with you there Russ. :)

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Hmmm, kitten attempts to start up a slight revolt, except the people she is planning it against can hear everything she says!

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I'm not entirely sure she's firing on all thrusters if you know what I mean.

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Yes, something's definitely misfiring in there somewhere. Surely she's going through the phase that most teenage girls go through in about the 4th/5th year?

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Great questions of our time....Why does Victor insist on going into the hot-tub fully clothed???

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Although I strongly dislike many of her apparent principles, if the stories of her past are true then she's probably been through things which would push most people over the edge. If she's being loopy now it's probably because of her past experiences.

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lol. Nice one mate. Is it just me or is she hell bent on turning into Arthur Scargill or something? I think she is finding life a bit empty at just whinging at everything, and wants to lead some revolt about something or other.

And what the hell is the point of the cameras not showing them in the Diary room? Defeats the object of it surely. Looks like they did it deliberately to keep us in suspense about the revolt, I guess.

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Personally, I wouldn't trust anything from her. She acts like a teenager in a permanent huff and I wouldn't put it past her to invent things to try and make herself more interesting.

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At the end of the day BB has a rough idea of how they want things to go. They pick the people to achieve this and edit the main shows that the majority of the voting public see to aid this 'script'. Remember how they turned Jade from public enemy number one into some kind of hero in the space of a couple weeks of clever editing. I noticed some clever editing of the voting that happened yesterday when they showed it in todays show.

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I know who Kitten reminds me of now. Imagine Jarvis Cocker died, turned green and rotted a bit, then came alive and started glaring at everyone and asking them if they wanted to revolt.

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[HuggyBearMode] The word on the street is that there is some kind of double house. People nominated/evicted will be placed in this house and will be able to watch the other house bitching about them etc. They will then be allowed back in later on. This may be the reason for the single feed on E4/Broadband plus thing. There may be a feed for both houses. Also heard that one person will be nominated on friday and will pick another to go with them and they will go into this house.[/HuggyBearMode]

This is only rumours I have picked up from various sources so may be completely wrong! :)

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I'd say it's fairly likely after all, it's only exactly what Davina said would happen on saturday!!

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Apparently the latest is that Kitten has convinced them all that they have squatters rights in the house. Shame if BB decided not to feed people squatting in their property wouldn't it? :D

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Did anyone see Emma talking about the book 1984 the other day?

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yes i did see thy god emma talking about 1984 why

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Hmm - Is she living in the real world or what? More to the point who chose this imbecile, as a BB contestant? :erm:

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Well according to her, there's a book, written a long time ago, about a future
where there are cameras everywhere and the people are watched all
the time. She can't remember the title of the book but thinks there
may be a link between the book and BB! Everyone just looked at her blankly! :D

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Blankly because they couldn't believe she was so stupid, or blankly because they didn't know what she was on about?

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The latter. Only Ahmed looked like he knew what she was on about. Possibly his expression also conveyed a look of "What the f**k am I doing here with these idiots!" :D

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http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbr...ry.jsp?id=5465 Love google :hugs:

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Hmmm, anyone seen this:

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds6191.html

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How long before BB ends, anyone know when we'll be put out of our misery :mis:

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You've got 10 lovely weeks of it yet! :)

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10 weeks :eek: :eek: :eek:

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Nice one mate! I knew she was full of s**t. She said before she was expelled from 6 schools...


OI! You leave my Emma alone *shakes fist* :D God i'm sad... :)

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Nice thread about it on digitalspy:

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...hp?t=128288&s=

Someone on there called 'Inspiration' goes way too far to try and defend her imo! :)

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Didn't say on there about getting expelled though. I'm sure she said it and 6 times too.

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this is all very sad, i cant believe people are interested in this........

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ya leave emma alone ! she has alot to offer the house :angel:

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Anyone else see Shell's bum tonight? :eek:

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yes i did !!!! the bums going to give be nightmares tonight :(

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Why would a gorgeous woman's bum give you nightmares?

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shush - watch & learn, lurk & become wise, look not at the tv, but at the people looking at the tv. The 'contestants' are a minor feature, what is huge is the interactive technology & the income from phone voting, etc :)

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Taken from today's Daily Mirror...

Does that make her homophobic too, and just as bad as him?

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If the very fact that someone is heterosexual causes her to treat them differently then yes, although the word would be 'heretophobic'.

Having said that, I intensely dislike the way the homosexual lobby has managed to define the word 'homophobia' to mean 'hatred of' or 'discrimination against'. The correct use of the suffix '-phobia' is 'fear of', which is something quite different.

So for complete accuracy, I guess it would have to be something like 'heterosexualist', which is a bit of a mouthful ... any other suggestions?

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I am so glad that I read a "proper" newspaper,:p

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well here's some more fuel for the fire.... BB have umpteen gay, lesbian, bisexual, gender changed people in the house for entertainment purposes - by choicing these people isnt this exploitation of their sexuality by the selection panel?

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I absolutely agree with you. Channel Four has put together a freak show, in the truest Victorian tradition.

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I dont consider these people as freaks but the idea of getting as many sexually 'different' people.... is the aim to create a circus freak show?

if they had a dwarf in the house it would be acceptable but if they filled half the house with dwarfs - what would they be aiming to achieve?

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'Freak' in the Victorian sense is probably best translated today as 'different'. I'm not sure how far, even back in the 19th century, the freak show was intended to make value judgements on its 'exhibits'. I'm certain that C4 isn't saying these people are in any way worthless (I'm not saying that either).

But there is no doubt in my mind that C4 expects, at least in part, that entertainment value of these particular 12 people being in the house is that they are sufficiently different from the majority of everyday British people that people will want to pay a ha'penny to come and stare at them.

I don't think we have a houseful of 'dwarfs' either. 'Gay' certainly isn't adequate as a single categorisation in this case. They have all got their own particular 'flavour' of sexuality, from the transsexual to the militant lesbian, to two women who aren't avowedly bisexual but have enjoyed liaisons with other women, to the outrageous mincer (who strangely calmed down a lot within about 12 hours of being inside) to the homosexual male who uses the word 'gay' to refer to outrageous mincers who give all homosexuals 'a bad name'.

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so we have a houseful of 'exhibits' then?

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According to the Mail today it's a load of tosh, she's had the choice to have a normal middle class upbringing, with the benefit(?) of private schooling.

Never lived in London in her life according to her Father.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...5&in_a_source=

She has already proclaimed herself the hardcore Left-wing lesbian of Big Brother.

But the father of Kathryn 'Kitten' Pinder last night said her tales of being a teenage prostitute are a lie - and slammed Channel 4 for the show's obsession with sex. Kenneth Pinder, a retired surveyor, said his daughter was in fact at a £12,000-a-year boarding school at 16, the age when she told fellow contestants on the reality show she was working as a child prostitute in London. She had, however, completed a well-regarded dissertation on prostitution while a university student, so he assumed she must have drawn on that knowledge for her attention-seeking stories on screen.

And Mr Pinder, 57, who had to remortgage the family's detached home to satisfy 'radical' Kathryn's request to go to private school, said the whole family are devastated by her sudden appearance on television.

Prostitution

None had been told she was to take part. Mr Pinder and his former wife Elizabeth-Anne - they split in 1998 - were last night understood to be making desperate efforts to persuade producers to remove their 24-year-old daughter from the programme before more harm is done.

Since she entered the Big Brother house on Friday - publicly kissing her girlfriend Lianda Gibson and giving cameramen her trademark one-finger salute as she did so - she has already became unpopular with fellow inmates and had all her belongings taken.

At his home in St Albans, Hertfordshire, Mr Pinder, who calls his daughter Kat, said: "Kat was having problems at her secondary school in Beverley, Yorkshire, and she chose to go to private school.

"We remortgaged the house, and she chose Denstone College in Staffordshire.

"When she reached the age of 16, she was still at Denstone College. She was still there right to the end of the following academic year.

"She was nearly 17 when she left. She then came home to live with her parents in Beverley.

"She was a full-time student at Wyke Sixth-Form College in Hull and followed on to Hull College doing A-levels.

Private school education

"She studied continuously in Hull and was living in Hull right through university until she got her degree in 2003.
"She missed getting a first-class degree by a whisker and got the departmental prize.
"Only then did she move to Brighton. She never lived in London.
"I do not know why she has said what she has said. Her parents have loved her and cherished her."

He added that she may have found it easy to talk about prostitution on the television show because her degree dissertation had been a comparison of prostitution in London with that in Amsterdam.

Mr Pinder said: "My daughter is a pawn in a much bigger game. The game being played is being perpetuated by Channel 4.

Lies

"Channel 4 has allowed the contestants to be conned.
"I did not know she was even staying with those people until the first programme had been run on the television.
"She kept it all a secret. All the other families were there at the launch.
"People's lives are being destroyed because of this. Her mother has been totally distraught.
"There are frail elderly relatives who have had sheltered upbringings whose lives will be ruined by this.
"It is built on a huge fabrication of lies - had it not been for these vile, pernicious, totally sexual overtones and the fabric of lies around these sexual things and prostitution, there is a lot in there that could be entertaining.
"But you could not be amused by it and entertained by it because of the sexual overtones and the sexual agenda.
"The sexual agenda prevents any semblance of amusement or entertainment. It stifles the entertainment value."
Mr Pinder said he last saw his daughter at her flat in Brighton in April, when he visited her and her girlfriend with Easter eggs and her computer from home.
And he said he wished she had not gone into the Big Brother house at all.
"Obviously I would prefer her not to be on the programme," he added.
"I would not like to go any further than that."

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I believe that's what Channel 4 thinks, yes. There would be no entertainment value in filling the house with respectable middle-class, middle aged commuters from Surbiton. They have been stung by claims that last year's series was a bore and have selected this year's contestants for their perceived shock value. So far, it's proven a successful tactic. They've got me talking about it even though I find the whole thing more than a little degrading.

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perhaps they could have been more radical and brought some inteligence to the idea of 'exhibits'...

a charity worker, a cancer sufferer, a disabled person, a person with learning difficulties - why not also include these 'types' of people - wouldnt that be infinitely more interesting and surely a lot more can be learnt from people like this than from the current bunch?

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Yes, that would have been interesting (to me, anyway). Sadly, C4 has followed the axiom that 'sex sells' instead. :(

EDIT
On reflection, C4 might have faced accusations of profiting from the misfortune of others had it put various 'disadvantaged' people in the house. Such accusations may have been unfounded but would make a good headline nevertheless.

The way they have done things, they are instead profiting from the vanity and stupidity of people who have chosen to spend two months deluding themselves that the world is interested in who they are and what they have to say.

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Channel 4 can't win - last year they were blasted for having too many 'boring' contestants, this year they're all 'freaks'.

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Everybody in the public eye is criticised no matter what they do. It's simply the British way. To that extent, no they can't win, and neither can anyone else, no matter what they do.

However, ratings wise, I won't be surprised if they do win this year. Despite the carping, the British public does enjoy a good freak show, and that is what they have been given.

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but you can get interesting people without seeking out just loads of sexual 'exhibits'.

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It's the same every year isn't it? No different this year.

The problem is that the format is getting tired. People aren't interested in the people in the house becuase they know what they are there for.

The format of "celebrity" reality shows is more interesting.

But people will watch Big Brother. However, I predict rating will drop to new lows.

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Emma = Kathy Burke

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Lol!!

And aparently Kitten used to be called Perry (Kevin and Perry) because she used to look, sound and act like her :D

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kitten = dog

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Anyone else watch BBLB? Was it just me or did there seem to be a bit of frostiness between Dermot and Chris Moyles?

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Yeah, I think Dermot is a fairly straight up kind of person. He follows his script etc. closely and I think Moyles has caused a bit of bother with BB in the past. I think Dermot was a bit wary and tbh Moyles did seem like he might kick off about something at any moment.

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Awww, poor young Stuart:

http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbr...ry.jsp?id=5536

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She's done it now......

http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbr...ry.jsp?id=5558

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I hope the lynch (sp??) her.

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I should watch it more. It would be wierd if someone else gets evicted because of Kitten's bad behavior, but it isn't without precedent though. I'll go mad if it is Emma though. I hope it is one the non-players getting evicted.

As they are making fun of us in the other thread, can we go beat them up or something? Who's with me? :ninja:

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this is becoming the best big brother ever! I was watching it live last night and the sheer patheticness of their conversation and arguing is brilliant.

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http://bigbrother.channel4.com/bigbr...ry.jsp?id=5561

Anyone else find it amusing to watch Emma try and fail miserably to get anything out of Stuart!! :D

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I think you mean michelle?

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Yes.....I just woke up.....:(

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BB5 would be more enjoyable if cable viewers got the same viewing rights as Sky viewers.

This year cable viewers don't get 24/7 live streaming so miss out on much of the best viewing like the arguments that took place yesterday, this was an editorial decision taken by channel 4 which has resulted in many of their own forum members campaigning to get Interactive restored for all cable viewers these include Telewest/NTL/TopupTV

Many members are refusing to vote and a petition has been set up http://www.petitiononline.com/BB5

I love my BB and don't want to be one of those that miss out on all the best bits

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Surely the 'best bits' is exactly what the nightly highlights show is for? You don't get the 'best bits' live, you get 23 hours of nothing with, if you're lucky, a few minutes of embarrassing but useful footage sprinkled throughout.

If you have nothing better to do than to sit and actually watch the live footage on e4, in the hope that something is going to happen ... well, I don't want to be rude, especially to a new member.

:welcome: to Cable Forum by the way! ;) :) :D

You might have guessed I spend more of my time in this thread:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=12728

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To correct you the `nightly daily highlight show' is not the `Best Bits' how can it be when many scenes are cut, it is exactly what it says `Highlights'

This show also shows highlights from the previous day, NOT from the day it is being broadcast, which results in many viewers missing out on the action as it happens, and on many occasions not getting to see parts of the show at all, while sky viewers get to watch 24/7.

Channel 4 could have got better ratings and recieved many more revenues if they gave cable viewers the same viewing rights as sky

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Of course 'highlights' and 'best bits' means the same thing! What you're arguing about is whether any of the best bits/highlights are actually never broadcast at all due to the restrictions of limited live bradcasts on e4 and a daily half-hour programme on c4.

Having actually watched a little of the e4 live feed, I can say with certainty that what is cut is not 'best bits' at all. And as further proof, I offer the fact that in just about all previous years, Marcus Bentley has on more than one occasion been forced to narrate the words: "two fourteen pee em. Aul the hawwsmehhts have gun back ta bed." Why on earth would they choose to cut a juicy conversation and slot in footage of people sleeping instead? Answer: They have no choice. What they show in that half-hour nightly slot on C4 is the pick of the action (and yes, I know it's 24 hours out of date). It's precisely because 24 hours in the house provides barely 24 minutes of interesting footage that they have tried to make the programme edgier this year.

As for ratings and reviews - well, the c4 show is getting 3 or 4 million a night and that's a free-to-air channel on analogue and digital. I can't imagine that e4 is ever getting more than a couple of hundred thousand (and I suspect that's a generous estimate). In terms of additional ratings and revenue, I don't expect Channel Four is losing anything at all by not providing the continuous stream to the barely 3 million homes (out of 30 million in the UK) that actually have cable TV.

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How dare Kitten raise her voice to my Emma! She'll pay, oh ho, she'll pay.. :fit: :)

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last nights "special" extended 10pm edition was fantastic!

I was close to tears at one point.

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Yeah, although I was hoping for a live eviction as it was extended quite suddenly during the day.

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Apparently Stuart and Michelle got it on last night! I saw them talking before I went to bed, but apparently things got a bit heated:

http://bigbrother.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds6269.html

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can I just clarify - that's tears of laughter I was close to last night.

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She's gone!!

I agree with what Davina said though - the issues she feels passionate about are genuine and deserving, it's just the way she goes about putting her point across is what gets people's backs up.

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Do you mean Kitten?

Damn, I know a name of one of the contestants! ;)

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Yes. Here's a photo.

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/06/9.jpg

I knew I'd seen her somewhere before.

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Davina has gone ? :eek: :erm:

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:LOL: That's brilliant! I thought the one I'd found of Jarvis Cocker was good but that's the best!

C

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Don't be daft.

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I read something funny the other day. It said:

[quote]Everyone is watching Big Brother. I don't mean to be pedantic, but shouldn't it be the other way around?"

LOL, he had a point :)

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/sulks off and mutters something about joking ... :sulk:

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Well, this Big Brother thread really is a hive of activity. :rolleyes:

Why is this? The consensus among the Big-Brother-watching media pundits appears to be that there is more activity and scandal in the house this year than ever before.

Could it be that in order to generate enough useable film for their wall-to-wall coverage, Channel 4 have sunk to such depths that even the show's fans have become sick of it?

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Actually, with everything that's happened lately i'm suprised noone is posting about it. I suppose it is just boring talking about it with someone who has already seen it and stuff.

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The only thing I was going to post was a poll, shoud Kitten or another housemate be kicked out for Kittens misdemeanours. After all kicking out another housemate denys them a chance at the £100k when they had done nothing wrong. Never got around to it and the time has passed with BB making the right decision IMHO.

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Fact is people have little better to do, nothing good on, no hobbies. When TV was all good, people went out of their way to watch it. They eventually forgot the other stuff they used to do so they continued watching TV. Now they've ran out of good shows, they show rubbish/repeats and still get audiences.

IMO the entertainment industry has reached a stagnant state and is decline because there is no more need to compete.

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That would of been really evil. But that is the whole idea this year, so we never knew if they would or not.

It is weird though, how nothing exciting happens at the beginning, and everyone is talking about it, then when loads of stuff happens, noone cares anymore. What with Kitten, housemates (almost?) having sex, fights virtually breaking out...

A tip: never say: "FFS" to gobby girl from Oldham.

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Ahmed = Andy Garcia

Dan = Alan Rickman