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passingbat 19-01-2017 08:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881168)
FOX News will not be launching on VM anytime soon, although it was testing something happened and both parties withdrew.

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35881180)
no lose there


Shame. We need something to counteract the completely unbalanced and negatively biased view of trump put out by the BBC. Fox news, I suspect is biased the opposite way, but at least you get both sides.

theone2k10 19-01-2017 11:36

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Originally Posted by love Virgin2013 (Post 35881194)
Can the Live channel be watched on Youtube?

Think it's only news articles not seen a live option, i know sky news and cnn are live on youtube i think bbc is too.

1andrew1 20-01-2017 14:06

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881118)
VM rumoured to announce further price rises in April.

It's BT who are raising prices but not to say its competitors won't too:
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBC on its website
BT has announced prices rises for its broadband and landline services, while television customers will start having to pay for BT Sport.
Broadband charges will typically rise by between 5% and 6% from 2 April, the company said.
Landline customers will see phone plans increase, and the cost of calls will go up by 1p a minute.
Rivals Sky, Virgin Media and TalkTalk have all announced price increases within the last year.
So far, customers of BT TV have not had to pay for BT Sport, which includes live coverage of Champions League and some Premier League football matches.
However, from 1 August they will now pay £3.50 a month.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38694013

theone2k10 20-01-2017 14:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35881361)
It's BT who are raising prices but not to say its competitors won't too:


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38694013

Oooh thanks for that time to renogotiate towards the time.
You'll find VM will be raising prices then too expect a announcement soon,
I think SKYs is around about June and talktalk around about same time too.

denphone 20-01-2017 14:22

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881363)
Oooh thanks for that time to renogotiate towards the time.
You'll find VM will be raising prices then too expect a announcement soon,
I think SKYs is around about June and talktalk around about same time too.

Yep the roundabout swings around and others will pop on it soon enough to announce their own price rises.

vincerooney 20-01-2017 14:38

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Its a case of who will be the cheaper...the whole "internet only, kodi box for my tv" era is potentially dying since im hearing a lot of internet providers will be trying to go after these type of people. (due to the fact they want money for tv subs)

Sky, virgin media, BT will all be equally expensive for what i want. So each price rise occurs and i nod my head sadly and take it like the stallion i am.

And yes den very sad about fox news and i cant view it online. Terrible!

denphone 20-01-2017 14:42

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In our household Fox News would not be at the top of our viewing anyway Vince.:nono::nono:

theone2k10 20-01-2017 15:08

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35881369)
Its a case of who will be the cheaper...the whole "internet only, kodi box for my tv" era is potentially dying since im hearing a lot of internet providers will be trying to go after these type of people. (due to the fact they want money for tv subs)

Sky, virgin media, BT will all be equally expensive for what i want. So each price rise occurs and i nod my head sadly and take it like the stallion i am.

And yes den very sad about fox news and i cant view it online. Terrible!

They can keep going after us we'll always find a way around it.
SKY, BT, movie studios, tv studios etc should take long hard look at themselves and they'll see why people use grey area things to watch shows movies etc.
Might be something to do with how expensive it's becoming to have a tv sub for example skys basic tv is £22p/m now and that's without hd, movies, sports and box sets.
BTs equivelent pack minus sky channels and fox but including bt sports and from this month boxnation is £10p/m don't take a genius to figure it out.
Also £13.99 for a dvd they're having a giraffe man i tend to wait awhile and grab dvds/blu rays for £5 or below.

vincerooney 20-01-2017 20:39

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35881370)
In our household Fox News would not be at the top of our viewing anyway Vince.:nono::nono:

not even for the comedy aspect? its very much against my political views den but its sheer bias and poison makes me chuckle everytime ive seen it.

Mad Max 20-01-2017 21:00

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Why is TV utter dross on a Friday??

theone2k10 20-01-2017 22:32

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881408)
Why is TV utter dross on a Friday??

it's utter dross 7 days a week hence why i cut the cord lol.

Chad 21-01-2017 01:06

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881373)
They can keep going after us we'll always find a way around it.
SKY, BT, movie studios, tv studios etc should take long hard look at themselves and they'll see why people use grey area things to watch shows movies etc.
Might be something to do with how expensive it's becoming to have a tv sub for example skys basic tv is £22p/m now and that's without hd, movies, sports and box sets.
BTs equivelent pack minus sky channels and fox but including bt sports and from this month boxnation is £10p/m don't take a genius to figure it out.
Also £13.99 for a dvd they're having a giraffe man i tend to wait awhile and grab dvds/blu rays for £5 or below.

I've found myself drawn to YouTube more and more in recent weeks late at night for entertainment. Plenty of good niche entertainment if you can find it that's often more entertaining than conventional TV. I've been consumed recently watching content from RedLetterMedia. A bunch of guys ripping movies from the 80's and 90's to pieces whilst getting hammered. Doesn't sound like must watch content I known but they know their stuff, it's risqué at times and makes me laugh. Nothing like it on TV. Once drawn in you discover they've been doing this for years and have a back catalog of about 600 hours. It's free and ready to watch when you want.

P. S. I'm hammered watching them just now. Hopefully the above makes sense lol

Mad Max 21-01-2017 01:12

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881412)
it's utter dross 7 days a week hence why i cut the cord lol.


No it's not, there's some good stuff on most nights, but for some strange reason a Friday is particularly bad!

denphone 21-01-2017 06:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881408)
Why is TV utter dross on a Friday??

Go to bingo old chap.;)

theone2k10 21-01-2017 11:24

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35881418)
I've found myself drawn to YouTube more and more in recent weeks late at night for entertainment. Plenty of good niche entertainment if you can find it that's often more entertaining than conventional TV. I've been consumed recently watching content from RedLetterMedia. A bunch of guys ripping movies from the 80's and 90's to pieces whilst getting hammered. Doesn't sound like must watch content I known but they know their stuff, it's risqué at times and makes me laugh. Nothing like it on TV. Once drawn in you discover they've been doing this for years and have a back catalog of about 600 hours. It's free and ready to watch when you want.

P. S. I'm hammered watching them just now. Hopefully the above makes sense lol

pluto tv is ok too loads of content on it perfectly legal too.
Being a gamer i'm often watching the various gaming broadcasts on it, same with youtube too.

Horizon 21-01-2017 18:55

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881408)
Why is TV utter dross on a Friday??

Is it any better on any other day?..... Soaps, reality, celebrity chefs etc.

I don't switch the thing on much now and I love tv, but when I do, I'm selective in what I watch.

OLD BOY 21-01-2017 18:56

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881446)
pluto tv is ok too loads of content on it perfectly legal too.
Being a gamer i'm often watching the various gaming broadcasts on it, same with youtube too.

Pluto is ok, but I wouldn't spend my evening watching their output.

Frankly, I'm not much impressed with anything I've seen on Kodi either so far - I think that this only comes into its own with a vpn, which I refuse to use.

If you want quality viewing and you don't want to breach copyright laws, I'm afraid the only option is cable or satellite/Netflix/Amazon/Now TV + other PPV options.

theone2k10 21-01-2017 19:36

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881511)
Pluto is ok, but I wouldn't spend my evening watching their output.

Frankly, I'm not much impressed with anything I've seen on Kodi either so far - I think that this only comes into its own with a vpn, which I refuse to use.

If you want quality viewing and you don't want to breach copyright laws, I'm afraid the only option is cable or satellite/Netflix/Amazon/Now TV + other PPV options.

Then you must not like any tv show or movie or sports etc then, you do not need a vpn for kodi just the correct addons.
You forgot to mention isp tv too from bt and talktalk and plusnet, also vodafone have a tv service now.

OLD BOY 21-01-2017 19:54

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881516)
Then you must not like any tv show or movie or sports etc then, you do not need a vpn for kodi just the correct addons.
You forgot to mention isp tv too from bt and talktalk and plusnet, also vodafone have a tv service now.

Yes, but BT, talk talk, vodaphone and plusnet have inferior offerings, don't they? The main players ATM are Sky and Virgin.

Unless you go for vpn, which basically infringes copyright, surely you are not suggesting that Kodi has anything worthwhile to add? Or, being a newcomer to all this, maybe I've missed something? :confused:

theone2k10 21-01-2017 22:38

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881518)
Yes, but BT, talk talk, vodaphone and plusnet have inferior offerings, don't they? The main players ATM are Sky and Virgin.

Unless you go for vpn, which basically infringes copyright, surely you are not suggesting that Kodi has anything worthwhile to add? Or, being a newcomer to all this, maybe I've missed something? :confused:

Only thing that's missing from BT is sky channels and fox, and apparantly Sky and BT are in talks.
TT i think are missing discovery channels, eurosport aswell as hd but do have sky channels, no idea about vodafone as would never go with vodafone.
Kodi certainly does have everything worthwhile tv shows at usa pace, movies still on cinema, live sports, live channels such as hbo,showtime,starz to nam a couple, plus every live uk channel possible etc the list is endless you just need the correct repos and addons you do not need a vpn or smart dns and it is not illegal, infact a European court recently ruled streaming content as legal. However if you go down the route of acestream and plexus it becomes illegal as they are p2p.
Kodis legit addons alone offer various network channels such as nbcsports, food network, abc, fox amongst others those you need a smart dns or vpn for.
Regarding kodi either send me a pm as won't discuss here or youtube is your friend ;)

Mr K 21-01-2017 22:43

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Great films coming up on Talking Pictures: - 'Day of the Triffids', 'Brighton Rock'

Oops no, VM is still the only platform not to carry the channel.....

jj20x 21-01-2017 23:42

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35881120)
In other news - "Total Channels" has been cut by one sometime since Monday.

Well, 3 channels have gone and 2 have been added since Christmas. So there has been a net loss of 1 somewhere along the way.

Removals:

TSID 6: SID 615 UMP Movies
TSID 9: SID 901 Movie Mix
TSID 19: SID 1907 My Ex Girlfriends

Additions:

TSID 2: SID 215 Sony Movie Channel (This launched on a different transport stream to the Movie Mix channel it replaced).
TSID 17: SID 1713 ITV PPV HD

The last one is quite interesting. :)

theone2k10 21-01-2017 23:49

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35881557)
Well, 3 channels have gone and 2 have been added since Christmas. So there has been a net loss of 1 somewhere along the way.

Removals:

TSID 6: SID 615 UMP Movies
TSID 9: SID 901 Movie Mix
TSID 19: SID 1907 My Ex Girlfriends

Additions:

TSID 2: SID 215 Sony Movie Channel (This launched on a different transport stream to the Movie Mix channel it replaced).
TSID 17: SID 1713 ITV PPV HD

The last one is quite interesting. :)

That last one is itv box office

jj20x 22-01-2017 00:37

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881558)
That last one is itv box office

Obviously, but via a pop-up channel rather than delivery through the standard PPV on-demand services, which some users have assumed.

(It is an NVOD Time-Shifted service rather than a regular "Digital Television" service - so basically the same method of delivery as the adult PPV channels.)

denphone 22-01-2017 06:00

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35881553)
Great films coming up on Talking Pictures: - 'Day of the Triffids', 'Brighton Rock'

Oops no, VM is still the only platform not to carry the channel.....

Well at least you are consistent in your grumpiness Mr K.;)

ozsat 22-01-2017 08:22

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I watch Talking Pictures more than Sky Atlantic
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35881553)
Great films coming up on Talking Pictures: - 'Day of the Triffids', 'Brighton Rock'

Oops no, VM is still the only platform not to carry the channel.....


toady 22-01-2017 13:11

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881511)
- I think that this only comes into its own with a vpn, which I refuse to use.

A VPN is much more than just allowing you to bypass region blocking, it also helps with blocking the likes of Food Standards Agency and Department of Transport seeing which website you've visited with the Snoopers Charter

Mr K 22-01-2017 14:45

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35881577)
Well at least you are consistent in your grumpiness Mr K.;)

Cheers Den. When I can get the same happy pills as you out of my GP then maybe I can pretend everything is brilliant as well :) Seriously, give Talking Pictures a look sometime - channel 81 on Freeview - can't see it as a cost issue for VM as Freeview, Freesat and Sky all have it. I can get it via the Freeview route but it would be nicer to record on Tivo.

denphone 22-01-2017 15:00

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35881628)
Cheers Den. When I can get the same happy pills as you out of my GP then maybe I can pretend everything is brilliant as well :) Seriously, give Talking Pictures a look sometime - channel 81 on Freeview - can't see it as a cost issue for VM as Freeview, Freesat and Sky all have it. I can get it via the Freeview route but it would be nicer to record on Tivo.

We got a Freeview capability on our TV but cannot get a signal.

johnathome 22-01-2017 15:49

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35881369)

And yes den very sad about fox news and i cant view it online. Terrible!

Steady Vince

http://www.livenewson.com/american/f...annel-fnc.html

Mad Max 22-01-2017 15:50

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35881632)
We got a Freeview capability on our TV but cannot get a signal.

You need an aerial....:)

denphone 22-01-2017 15:53

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881648)
You need an aerial.

Thanks MM as we thought that but being the birdbrain l am when it comes to anything technical this regular numbskull is clueless.:)

theone2k10 22-01-2017 17:51

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Originally Posted by toady (Post 35881618)
A VPN is much more than just allowing you to bypass region blocking, it also helps with blocking the likes of Food Standards Agency and Department of Transport seeing which website you've visited with the Snoopers Charter

Also worth mentioning a vpn is a strong defence against getting hacked too.

---------- Post added at 17:51 ---------- Previous post was at 17:49 ----------

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881648)
You need an aerial....:)

Or tv player.

Mad Max 22-01-2017 19:26

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New series of Homeland starts tonight.............:)

denphone 22-01-2017 19:33

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881700)
New series of Homeland starts tonight.............:)

Looking forward to seeing the new series..:tu:

vincerooney 23-01-2017 08:29

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35881647)

Oh hello...

Media Boy UK 23-01-2017 18:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35881557)
Well, 3 channels have gone and 2 have been added since Christmas. So there has been a net loss of 1 somewhere along the way.

Removals:

TSID 6: SID 615 UMP Movies
TSID 9: SID 901 Movie Mix
TSID 19: SID 1907 My Ex Girlfriends

Additions:

TSID 2: SID 215 Sony Movie Channel (This launched on a different transport stream to the Movie Mix channel it replaced).
TSID 17: SID 1713 ITV PPV HD

The last one is quite interesting. :)

We did think UMP Movies was removed.

theone2k10 23-01-2017 19:15

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7.6% price rise being announced April.

Mad Max 23-01-2017 22:33

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.


That much?? How the hell do they justify that?

theone2k10 23-01-2017 23:46

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35881866)
That much?? How the hell do they justify that?

Gotta fund the v6 boxes somehow mate. But its only rumoured for now.

Mad Max 23-01-2017 23:47

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881873)
Gotta fund the v6 boxes somehow mate. But its only rumoured for now.


The funding of the V6 boxes was surely done by charging the people who took them.

denphone 24-01-2017 05:22

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.

Proof?.

love Virgin2013 24-01-2017 06:30

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.

Would VM be that mad to put them up that high after the rise we have just had in Nov?

figgyburn 24-01-2017 09:10

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.

Formula one to pay for.;).

nialli 24-01-2017 09:56

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.

Source? Too many unsubstantiated rumours getting posted here in the absence of genuine news.

If this is true, and I sincerely hope it isn't, having just signed a new twelve month deal with VM I wonder where the protection is for us customers on accepting a new contract with an agreed price if the supplier can jack the price up with the ink barely dry on my signature? Shouldn't we get some protection by law or at least OFCOM (cough cough)? I'm committing to a full year, shouldn't the supplier be bound to do likewise?

1andrew1 24-01-2017 09:58

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35881908)
Formula one to pay for.;).

Different company (Liberty Media).

greeninferno 24-01-2017 10:06

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.

is this across the board or the top rise for the top package i.e. VIP?

nialli 24-01-2017 10:15

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
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Originally Posted by greeninferno (Post 35881919)
is this across the board or the top rise for the top package i.e. VIP?

Unsubstantiated rumour, possibly initiated by Sky lovers (wouldn't be the first time). Unless it's confirmed by Virgin Media, don't believe it.

paultrademark 24-01-2017 10:47

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35881917)
Source? Too many unsubstantiated rumours getting posted here in the absence of genuine news.

If this is true, and I sincerely hope it isn't, having just signed a new twelve month deal with VM I wonder where the protection is for us customers on accepting a new contract with an agreed price if the supplier can jack the price up with the ink barely dry on my signature? Shouldn't we get some protection by law or at least OFCOM (cough cough)? I'm committing to a full year, shouldn't the supplier be bound to do likewise?

You're free to leave for the services that are increased within 30 days of VM notifying you, that's been the case for some time now.

theone2k10 24-01-2017 11:18

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35881887)
Proof?.

I did say it's rumoured for now, in reality i expect the price rise to be between 4-5% and not until june/july ish but this is VM so who knows?
I know BT are raising prices and possibly SKY but that's all i've heard from the reliable sources.
Also as paultrademark said if vm do raise prices or any company you are free to leave without penalty, i wish more people would do this and make companies think a bit.
Also i repeat what i have said in the past unless its a link to a website i will never post proof due to the fact people come to tell me rumours in confidence knowing i will never reveal their identity ever.

muppetman11 24-01-2017 11:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35881917)
Source? Too many unsubstantiated rumours getting posted here in the absence of genuine news.

If this is true, and I sincerely hope it isn't, having just signed a new twelve month deal with VM I wonder where the protection is for us customers on accepting a new contract with an agreed price if the supplier can jack the price up with the ink barely dry on my signature? Shouldn't we get some protection by law or at least OFCOM (cough cough)? I'm committing to a full year, shouldn't the supplier be bound to do likewise?

You don't need to be Albert Einstein to work out subscription increases will come thick and fast.

With fierce competition leading to eye-watering discounts to attract new customers and more people ringing retentions and being offered higher discounts to retain custom simple economics tells you someone has to make up that shortfall and sadly that's the existing customer base.

nialli 24-01-2017 11:54

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35881936)
You don't need to be Albert Einstein to work out subscription increases will come thick and fast.

"Thick and fast"? Sky and BT are putting up prices again and Now TV will probably follow suit. Let's hope VM aren't quite so quick this year - the increases last year weren't welcome and the people I've spoken to in Retentions suggested that lessons had been learned (although that's probably hearsay).

muppetman11 24-01-2017 12:10

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Originally Posted by nialli (Post 35881939)
"Thick and fast"? Sky and BT are putting up prices again and Now TV will probably follow suit. Let's hope VM aren't quite so quick this year - the increases last year weren't welcome and the people I've spoken to in Retentions suggested that lessons had been learned (although that's probably hearsay).

I was referring to all the companies not just Virgin. ;)

See my posts in the Sports thread , I've been very critical of Sky for doing this.

toady 24-01-2017 12:35

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881844)
7.6% price rise being announced April.

With that sort of increase it will just spur me on to cut the cord and just live with Freeview and broadband with a couple of streaming services

denphone 24-01-2017 12:37

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35881944)
I was referring to all the companies not just Virgin. ;)

See my posts in the Sports thread , I've been very critical of Sky for doing this.

That's a first.;):D

muppetman11 24-01-2017 12:42

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35881948)
That's a first.;):D

My my pot calling kettle certainly has never been more apt here.

Wait for my further response when my subscription increases in March this year.;)

I'm not a happy chap with pay TV in general at the moment irrespective of supplier.

denphone 24-01-2017 13:10

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35881950)
My my pot calling kettle certainly has never been more apt here.

Wait for my further response when my subscription increases in March this year.;)

I'm not a happy chap with pay TV in general at the moment irrespective of supplier.

It was meant in jest my old mucker :D as yes l await your further responses just like all the other stalwarts do on this thread.;):D

theone2k10 24-01-2017 14:24

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New rumour.
Talking pictures coming to VM April 2017.

denphone 24-01-2017 14:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881973)
New rumour.
Talking pictures coming to VM April 2017.

That will please our professor of grumpiness.;):waving:

OLD BOY 24-01-2017 14:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881973)
New rumour.
Talking pictures coming to VM April 2017.

Would that be the 1st, by any chance?

theone2k10 24-01-2017 15:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881979)
Would that be the 1st, by any chance?

This coming from someone who claims linear tv is dead :D

Mad Max 24-01-2017 15:30

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I'll tell you this, if it's anywhere above 5% then they can ram it!

OLD BOY 24-01-2017 18:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881982)
This coming from someone who claims linear tv is dead :D

That will be on 31 April, but I'm not telling which year! ;)

Yes, I know....

denphone 24-01-2017 18:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35881999)
That will be on 31 April, but I'm not telling which year! ;)

Yes, I know....

3099 l reckon but alas we will both be as dead as a doornail by then.;)

jj20x 24-01-2017 19:22

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35881982)
This coming from someone who claims linear tv is dead :D

Linear TV won't be allowed to die. The likes of Talking Pictures will keep digging it up and trying to breathe life into its rotting corpse...

figgyburn 24-01-2017 19:44

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35881918)
Different company (Liberty Media).

Is it not john malone who owns both companies?.If he does it's not unheard of for profits of one company to help subsidise the other.Or am I completely wrong?.:confused:

1andrew1 24-01-2017 19:57

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Originally Posted by figgyburn (Post 35882010)
Is it not john malone who owns both companies?.If he does it's not unheard of for profits of one company to help subsidise the other.Or am I completely wrong?.:confused:

He controls both companies but both have a majority of external shareholders and are separately listed on stock exchanges. So, you can't move money between the two companies as the owners (shareholders) of the companies concerned would be unhappy!

Horizon 25-01-2017 00:16

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... yes, but, this is John Malone... Mr "I don't pay tax on anything" Malone....

F1 has to be paid for by someone and it ain't coming out of Malone's pockets.

1andrew1 25-01-2017 01:00

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35882032)
... yes, but, this is John Malone... Mr "I don't pay tax on anything" Malone....

F1 has to be paid for by someone and it ain't coming out of Malone's pockets.

He's offering shares in Liberty to F1's owners CVC, offering shares in F1 to the teams plus obviously Liberty Media is splashing some cash. http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/20.../#3a517e1643f8

Media Boy UK 25-01-2017 13:07

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Rumour: Has Discovery Acquires TruTV slots on Sky and Freeview from Turner Broadcasting System Europe?

Digital Spy Forum is reporting that Discovery Shed +1 and Discovery Home & Health +2 are now testing on Sky.

Media Boy HQ feels the EPG Slots maybe coming from:

1) Sky PLC has sold two Sky Cinema Box Office Slots to Discovery.
2) Turner Broadcasting System Europe has sold TruTV slots to Discovery.

If it number two then TruTV will close in the coming months.

THIS POST IS JUST AN RUMOUR.

Bananaman_007 25-01-2017 17:49

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I did mention on the digitalspy topic that i thought Discovery would be a front runner for the Tru Tv Freeview slots. I know they were keen to expand Eurosport and making them the first Sports channel on Freeview would certainly do that. They have also tested a variety of Eurosport rights on Quest, snooker, rally, darts and even some football have all appeared on Quest at various points.

Media Boy UK 25-01-2017 19:23

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Seenit is reporting at Now TV and Sky viewers may lose channels own by Discovery next week.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/discovery-th...riage-dispute/

Discovery has reassured BT and Virgin Media customers that they will continue to have access to the channels as it has separate long-term agreements in place with those brands.

muppetman11 25-01-2017 19:36

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35882177)
Seenit is reporting at Now TV and Sky viewers may lose channels own by Discovery next week.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/discovery-th...riage-dispute/

Discovery has reassured BT and Virgin Media customers that they will continue to have access to the channels as it has separate long-term agreements in place with those brands.

Thanks for the info , Sky looking to cut costs while at the same time increasing subscriptions. Wonder where all that coins going.

OLD BOY 25-01-2017 19:39

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I would be very surprised if there wasn't an outcry from Sky viewers over this. Despite what Sky says, I think the majority of their subscribers value the Discovery bouquet of channels.

Ddonald2016 25-01-2017 19:46

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Well I think it's good for virgin as they are the only home of discovery complete package

Chad 25-01-2017 19:52

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35882177)
Seenit is reporting at Now TV and Sky viewers may lose channels own by Discovery next week.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/discovery-th...riage-dispute/

Discovery has reassured BT and Virgin Media customers that they will continue to have access to the channels as it has separate long-term agreements in place with those brands.

Should be interesting to see how this plays out. Discovery will lose a lot of viewers if it's pulled from SKY. I'm a big fan of the Discovery Channel but not the other variations of the channel that broadcast. Would be sad to see it go but not a deal breaker for me.

Had a look at BARB figures for the Discovery Channel through 2016. It pulls in around 430,000 viewers per day. SKY households must account for around 70% of their total viewers. Can't see Discovery Channel lasting too long with around 129,000 viewers each day. Some of the other Discovery branded channels are only pulling in around 60,000 viewers per day.

Something has to give.

Ddonald2016 25-01-2017 19:55

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For sky to lose those channels it's a great moment for virgin media

denphone 25-01-2017 20:00

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882187)
Thanks for the info , Sky looking to cut costs while at the same time increasing subscriptions. Wonder where all that coins going.

Good grief your Sky negativity posts seem to be increasing by the day MM.;)

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35882204)
For sky to lose those channels it's a great moment for virgin media

That is a different approach to what you were saying a while back.;)

theone2k10 25-01-2017 20:14

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35882191)
I would be very surprised if there wasn't an outcry from Sky viewers over this. Despite what Sky says, I think the majority of their subscribers value the Discovery bouquet of channels.

TBF apart from Eurosport the Discovery channels are a shadow of what they used to be, the quality of content has been very poor for quite awhile.
The channels would certainly be missed but not as much as Discovery think.

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35882204)
For sky to lose those channels it's a great moment for virgin media

Is it relly though?
As BT and plusnet offer the discovery channels on a much cheaper basis than vm, it certainly won't harm vm that's for sure.

muppetman11 25-01-2017 20:27

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35882202)
Should be interesting to see how this plays out. Discovery will lose a lot of viewers if it's pulled from SKY. I'm a big fan of the Discovery Channel but not the other variations of the channel that broadcast. Would be sad to see it go but not a deal breaker for me.

Had a look at BARB figures for the Discovery Channel through 2016. It pulls in around 430,000 viewers per day. SKY households must account for around 70% of their total viewers. Can't see Discovery Channel lasting too long with around 129,000 viewers each day. Some of the other Discovery branded channels are only pulling in around 60,000 viewers per day.

Something has to give.

I said this would happen on here a while back , I'd expect Sky to play hard ball with other broadcasters as it looks to reduce costs. These kind of disputes are common in the US and many times leads to channels being removed for a period of time.

Telegraph reporting it now
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ackout-threat/

Arthurgray50@blu 25-01-2017 20:39

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My wife loves the Discovery channels more than me. So she is rubbing her hands tonight. As we also had Sky. So this is her chance to get rid of Sky due to cost.

What about BT Sport. Are there talks up soon.

denphone 25-01-2017 20:50

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882217)
I said this would happen on here a while back , I'd expect Sky to play hard ball with other broadcasters as it looks to reduce costs. These kind of disputes are common in the US and many times leads to channels being removed for a period of time.

Telegraph reporting it now
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ackout-threat/

The thing is Sky found it easy to bully before but might find the piper plays a rather different tune now.

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35882219)
My wife loves the Discovery channels more than me. So she is rubbing her hands tonight. As we also had Sky. So this is her chance to get rid of Sky due to cost.

What about BT Sport. Are there talks up soon.

Good grief your household Arthur must switch between suppliers every few months.;)

Ddonald2016 25-01-2017 20:54

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35882205)
Good grief your Sky negativity posts seem to be increasing by the day MM.;)

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That is a different approach to what you were saying a while back.;)

Well I never debated the sky discovery issue before. But for virgin to have all discovery SD HD and hopefully UHD, along with all Eurosport and TLC, certainly gives them a stronger position

Arthurgray50@blu 25-01-2017 20:55

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Isnt this the same story abut VM and SA. sky WONT pay over the price for the channels. And yet VM wont pay extra funds for the channel

denphone 25-01-2017 20:58

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35882226)
Isnt this the same story abut VM and SA. sky WONT pay over the price for the channels. And yet VM wont pay extra funds for the channel

If Sky are offering SA and that is a big if? one suspects they are asking for a astronomical carriage fee from their competitors.

Dave42 25-01-2017 21:02

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882187)
Thanks for the info , Sky looking to cut costs while at the same time increasing subscriptions. Wonder where all that coins going.

probably going towards there next champions league football bid MM

muppetman11 25-01-2017 21:04

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35882228)
probably going towards there next champions league football bid MM

Or the huge sum it paid for the current Premier League rights.

denphone 25-01-2017 21:05

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882230)
Or the huge sum it paid for the current Premier League rights.

Or the next lot of Premier League rights which come up in a year.

Arthurgray50@blu 25-01-2017 21:11

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Denphne.
I want Sky, because of the amount of channels it has. But the wife got a deal with VM. So we just have the basic channels +BT Sport.

It looks like she is going to win this battle. But there again women are always right at the end of the day.

Chad 25-01-2017 21:13

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882217)
I said this would happen on here a while back , I'd expect Sky to play hard ball with other broadcasters as it looks to reduce costs. These kind of disputes are common in the US and many times leads to channels being removed for a period of time.

Telegraph reporting it now
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/...ackout-threat/

Looks like this has been rumbling on for months. Intresting to see what impact this will have on the deal between SKY Media and Discovery Networks.

http://www.campaignlive.com/article/...al-sky/1411025

It's even more intresting when you visit the Sky Media website and click the various Discovery Channels links for more details.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/channels/discovery/

Discovery Channel average monthly reach - 5m viewers
Discovery Science average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery History average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery Turdo average monthly reach - 2m viewers
TLC average monthly reach - 6m viewers

I'm not sure how average monthly reach is worked out. If anyone knows please share. What I do know is a drop of around 70% of their viewers for each channel is going to have a massive impact.

Wonder if Discovery Networks will be able to renegotiate how much they are paying to SKY Media or cancel their contract? Can't see them paying the same kind of money for less than a 1/3 of the original advertising reach.

This is going to be fun watch. Biggest cliffhanger since "Who shot JR?" :D

alwaysabear 25-01-2017 21:14

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Eurosport would be a deal breaker for me. I love winter sports and cycling in the summer! Virginmedia's tactics are looking mighty appealing to me.

muppetman11 25-01-2017 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35882233)
Looks like this has been rumbling on for months. Intresting to see what impact this will have on the deal between SKY Media and Discovery Networks.

http://www.campaignlive.com/article/...al-sky/1411025

It's even more intresting when you visit the Sky Media website and click the various Discovery Channels links for more details.

https://www.skymedia.co.uk/channels/discovery/

Discovery Channel average monthly reach - 5m viewers
Discovery Science average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery History average monthly reach - 2m viewers
Discovery Turdo average monthly reach - 2m viewers
TLC average monthly reach - 6m viewers

I'm not sure how average monthly reach is worked out. If anyone knows please share. What I do know is a drop of around 70% of their viewers for each channel is going to have a massive impact.

Wonder if Discovery Networks will be able to renegotiate how much they are paying to SKY Media or cancel their contract? Can't see them paying the same kind of money for less than a 1/3 of the original advertising reach.

This is going to be fun watch. Biggest cliffhanger since "Who shot JR?" :D

Discovery already moved from Now TV Entertainment pass on website , now says 10 instead of 11 channels.

denphone 25-01-2017 21:28

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l bet there will be no reduction in their monthly price though.

alwaysabear 25-01-2017 21:31

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35882241)
l bet there will be no reduction in their monthly price though.

As normal its the consumer who loses out:(

denphone 25-01-2017 21:34

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Originally Posted by alwaysabear (Post 35882243)
As normal its the consumer who loses out:(

Of that there is doubt AB.

Stephen 25-01-2017 21:39

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http://www.tvwise.co.uk/2017/01/disc...iations-break/
More info in link.
Quote:

In an almost unprecedented move, Discovery Networks UK & Ireland let rip tonight in a scathing press release which revealed that negotiations with Sky have broken down and the two parties have failed to reach a new carriage agreement for their portfolio of channels.

As a result of that, Discovery has stated that unless a new agreement is reached shortly, they will pull all their channels from the Sky platform and NOW TV. There are no changes to BT and Virgin Media customers with whom Discovery has separate long-term agreements in place. What caused the negotiations to break down? The key issues seem to be entirely financial.

Discovery’s position is that as an “independent broadcaster”, they believe Sky is not offering a “fair price” for their channels. “Sky is using what we consider to be its dominant market position to further its own commercial interest over those of viewers and independent broadcasters”, said Susanna Dinnage, Managing Director, Discovery Networks UK and Ireland. Specifically, Discovery says they are paid less now than they were ten years ago, despite the cost of a Sky subscription increasing and the fact that Discovery has increased its share of viewing on the Sky platform by more than 20% in that same time period.

“Somebody has to stand up for consumers, because consumers believe they are paying for choice and diversity – they deserve better. Discovery is prepared to take that stand. Pay television needs to be about more than just films and football. The consumer can’t be expected to fund all of Sky’s investments and get less and less choice in return. We are also concerned that with the recently announced Fox transaction, Sky’s market strength and incentive to disadvantage independent TV content providers will only increase. Dinnage added. “All we ask is that Sky recognise the value we bring to customers and remunerate us fairly so we can continue creating content that inspires and entertains the world,” continued Susanna Dinnage.

Unsurprisingly, Sky has a different take on the situation. A spokesperson for the satcaster told TVWise that Discovery’s price expectations were problematic. “Despite our best efforts to reach a sensible agreement, we, like many other platforms and broadcasters across Europe, have found the price expectations for the Discovery portfolio to be completely unrealistic”, the Sky spokesperson said. “Discovery’s portfolio of channels includes many which are linear-only where viewing is falling.”

denphone 25-01-2017 21:45

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Funny how Sky conveniently don't think the price they are asking for Sky Atlantic is unrealistic then..

muppetman11 25-01-2017 21:46

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https://www.sky.com/help/articles/ch...hannel_changes

Dave42 25-01-2017 21:50

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35882249)
Funny how Sky conveniently don't think the price they are asking for Sky Atlantic is unrealistic then..

exactly but they don't want no one to have that

alwaysabear 25-01-2017 21:52

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35882251)

Looks like there is no going back at the moment.


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