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Carth 07-12-2018 15:56

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35974167)
Well if enough people ask Santa then suppose there could be one :D That's the dude that makes dreams come true init :D

Ha, fat chance . . I've been waiting 55 years for the Scalextric I asked for when I was 9 :D

djfunkdup 07-12-2018 16:12

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35974168)
Ha, fat chance . . I've been waiting 55 years for the Scalextric I asked for when I was 9 :D

It gives the remainers some hope i suppose lol but when they look in their stockings Xmass morning they will be disappointed ;)

pip08456 07-12-2018 16:15

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35974164)
Agreed - if there is to be a second Referendum.

Debated lastMonday in Parliament.

Quote:

Question put and agreed to.

Resolved,

That this House has considered e-petition 226071 relating to not holding a second referendum on EU membership.
Transcript here.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/common...condReferendum

jfman 07-12-2018 16:42

Re: Brexit
 
That’s pretty weak.

Gavin78 07-12-2018 16:51

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35974174)
Debated lastMonday in Parliament.



Transcript here.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/common...condReferendum


I read through about half of the script, interesting view points however I felt the house was mixed on views but most seem to agree we carry on the will of the people

djfunkdup 07-12-2018 17:02

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35974178)
we carry on the will of the people

It's the only option Gavin. Democracy will be carried through,we ain't some backwards undemocratic country that's open to bribery and corruption. That's why we are leaving the EU :)

Carth 07-12-2018 17:06

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35974176)
That’s pretty weak.

Could you explain further please?

Seemed pretty reasonable to me, and good to see the 'will of the people' not taken lightly

jfman 07-12-2018 17:07

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35974178)
I read through about half of the script, interesting view points however I felt the house was mixed on views but most seem to agree we carry on the will of the people

That wasn’t a debate in the chamber it was a Westminster Hall debate consisting of two Conservatives (one a Minister), five Labour and one SNP MP.

It’s impossible to derive any meaningful insight into the voting intentions in the chamber going forward from that discussion.

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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35974180)
Could you explain further please?

Seemed pretty reasonable to me, and good to see the 'will of the people' not taken lightly

As above it’s a Westminster Hall debate, so doesn’t hold any of the weight of discussions or matters decided upon (by division or otherwise) in the main chamber.

Carth 07-12-2018 17:08

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35974181)
That wasn’t a debate in the chamber it was a Westminster Hall debate consisting of two Conservatives (one a Minister), five Labour and one SNP MP.

It’s impossible to derive any meaningful insight into the voting intentions in the chamber going forward from that discussion.

aah, you must have missed those pointing out that they were surprised by the low turnout . . . a little like those missing remainers that couldn't be bothered to vote perhaps?

djfunkdup 07-12-2018 17:10

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35974183)
aah, you must have missed those pointing out that they were surprised by the low turnout . . . a little like those missing remainers that couldn't be bothered to vote perhaps?



:clap: :clap:

jfman 07-12-2018 17:16

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35974183)
aah, you must have missed those pointing out that they were surprised by the low turnout . . . a little like those missing remainers that couldn't be bothered to vote perhaps?

There is a world of difference between those who didn’t vote and MPs absent from a Westminster Hall debate.

Indeed, those who were in the main chamber at that time (4.30pm, 3rd December 2018) were listening to the Attorney General begin his statement prior to the vote that the Government was in contempt of Parliament.

Far from “couldn’t be bothered” our Parliamentarians were dealing with matters of critical national importance.

Carth 07-12-2018 17:19

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35974185)

Far from “couldn’t be bothered” our Parliamentarians were dealing with matters of critical national importance.

So . . a petition calling for a second referendum, signed by thousands (possibly even yourself) isn't quite as important as everyone has been making out.

I get it now, thanks ;)

jfman 07-12-2018 17:23

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 35974186)
So . . a petition calling for a second referendum, signed by thousands (possibly even yourself) isn't quite as important as everyone has been making out.

I get it now, thanks ;)

If you actually read the detail you would see that petition was to not hold a second referendum.

I can assure all honourable members of the forum I was not a signatory.

I do agree however, that petition was unimportant.

Hugh 07-12-2018 18:13

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by djfunkdup (Post 35974167)
Well if enough people ask Santa then suppose there could be one :D That's the dude that makes dreams come true init :D

But yet people still get what they asked for, because responsible parents realise it’s important to set realistic expectations and not promise what can’t be delivered to those expecting nice things.

We all know Santa doesn’t exist, so we make sure we plan well in advance and put things in place, rather than having to go to the petrol garage on Christmas Eve and giving people BBQ Charcoal, an overpriced bag of Maltesers, and some beyond best date flowers because we couldn’t be bothered actually trying to work out the impact of what we promised.

pip08456 07-12-2018 18:17

Re: Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 35974187)
If you actually read the detail you would see that petition was to not hold a second referendum.

I can assure all honourable members of the forum I was not a signatory.

I do agree however, that petition was unimportant.

You would still expect more of those who advocate for one to be present to put forward the case.


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