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BREAKING: Liz Truss is considering plans to trigger Article 16 within days of becoming PM, according to govt insiders.

UK facing critical Sep 15 deadline with EU. Truss campaign insists she still wants negotiated solution to NI protocol - Financial Times.

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Link to above story.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62728618

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Good for her!

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Better to use the agreed course of action like Article 16 than tear up the agreement unilaterally. But do we really want to fall out with our largest trading partners the EU at a time of rampant inflation and a common aggressive enemy? Thatcher used tact and diplomacy as well as threats; Truss needs to acquire the former skills sharpish!

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Large numbers of Albanians have been entering the EU illegally, and many are trying to cross the English Channel. They have been a thorn in the backside for the French police.

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so would you want a trade war OB it wont be us that wins if there is one

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I'd rather not fall out with the EU, but we can't put up with being pushed around either. We've been trying for some time to get an agreement to get the protocol working as it should and we've had nothing but obstruction. It is hurting the Northern Ireland economy, its businesses and even preventing Stormont from sitting.

We cannot go on like this, and in the absence of co-operation we have to do what is best for us. Our proposals do not affect the EU's ability to prevent the wrong goods getting in. They are simply being obstinate.

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I didn't say that.

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Your assertion is counter-factual…

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-62398680

The reason Stormont isn’t sitting is because the DUP have taken the hump with a legal agreement (NI Protocol) signed by the U.K. Government - as the article states Sounds as if you are supporting the anti-democratic DUP…

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The Northern Ireland Assembly is not running because the DUP are boycotting it, ostensibly because they don't like Johnson's Northern Ireland Protocol. The EU is not preventing Stormont from working.

If we fall out with the EU then we fall out with the US and we don't want to do either. Especially with rampant inflation.

The Protocol is actually helping the Northern Ireland economy - it's the only part of the UK apart from London to have shown growth. Perhaps the rest of the UK would have done the same if we'd stayed in the Single Market as Daniel Hanan said we would?

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i know you didn't OB was asking the question that's all surely be better to talk to EU and try sort it instead of trying to stir up the tension which it looks like Truss is trying to to does not do either side any good

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The same DUP that spent £435k on newspaper adverts in another country's newspaper (Metro, not available in NI) to encourage people to vote for Brexit that many believe was not its own money.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...aign-1.4320055

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I didn’t take you for an Irish nationalist Andrew.

Mainland GB may be beyond the usual election territory of the DUP but as I’m sure you’re very well aware, a referendum is not an election and the DUP does not consider Great Britain to be another country.

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What I am saying is that we should do what is best for Britain.

And while the NI economy may have improved, that is despite the EU intransigence and the unnecessary bureaucracy they have imposed. Without that, they would do even better.

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Yes, but what do you think we have been doing all this time? The EU just put up barriers and stick their fingers in their ears.

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Some people didn't realise how childish and awkward the EU would be because they were classed as our 'friends'.

Had both sides co-operated with each other, the DUP would not have got the hump, would they?