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jfman 27-10-2020 08:37

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36055065)
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What about those who claim they have but all their posts say they haven't?

Thinking it'd be good to have a deal with the EU isn't refusing the result. This was supposed to be the easiest trade deal in history after all...

Pierre 27-10-2020 08:48

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36055067)
This was supposed to be the easiest trade deal in history after all...

Only if you remove the politics.

1andrew1 27-10-2020 08:51

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36055067)
Thinking it'd be good to have a deal with the EU isn't refusing the result. This was supposed to be the easiest trade deal in history after all...

::clap::clap::clap:

Sephiroth 27-10-2020 09:56

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36055071)
::clap::clap::clap:

Tut, tut, Andrew. It was indeed supposed to be the easiest trade deal in the world but for the EU's solid intent to punish us. Of course you could argue that the politicians should have seen this coming but it doesn't alter the fact of the EU leadership behaving nastily toward us.

Mr K 27-10-2020 10:08

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36055085)
Tut, tut, Andrew. It was indeed supposed to be the easiest trade deal in the world but for the EU's solid intent to punish us. Of course you could argue that the politicians should have seen this coming but it doesn't alter the fact of the EU leadership behaving nastily toward us.

Maybe the EU aren't punishing us, but doing the best for their members?. I'm afraid the punishng/nasty crap Brexiteers come out with, are indicators of an ageing ever more bonkers country. It's a lightbulb realisation of our weak position and their part in causing it. Blame everyone else is the obvious answer. We started this, not up to others to resolve it.

papa smurf 27-10-2020 10:19

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36055086)
Maybe the EU aren't punishing us, but doing the best for their members?. I'm afraid the punishng/nasty crap Brexiteers come out with, are indicators of an ageing ever more bonkers country. It's a lightbulb realisation of our weak position and their part in causing it. Blame everyone else is the obvious answer. We started this, not up to others to resolve it.

It sure is


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...Germany-France

Sephiroth 27-10-2020 10:20

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36055086)
Maybe the EU aren't punishing us, but doing the best for their members?. I'm afraid the punishng/nasty crap Brexiteers come out with, are indicators of an ageing ever more bonkers country. It's a lightbulb realisation of our weak position and their part in causing it. Blame everyone else is the obvious answer. We started this, not up to others to resolve it.

You can sneer at Leavers if you want to, but it hardly does the best for the EU's members to have their exports to the UK to be hampered by duties and paperwork, etc and to have no access to British fishing waters.

It cuts both ways.

Yes, we started it and the more the EU behaves like *******s, the more right there was in the 52% viewpoint.


jfman 27-10-2020 10:26

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36055086)
Maybe the EU aren't punishing us, but doing the best for their members?. I'm afraid the punishng/nasty crap Brexiteers come out with, are indicators of an ageing ever more bonkers country. It's a lightbulb realisation of our weak position and their part in causing it. Blame everyone else is the obvious answer. We started this, not up to others to resolve it.

Indeed. They're a trade bloc of members. The UK not getting the benefits of membership without the costs of membership is an obvious starting point for any similar situation.

Unfortunately when you are a small, declining economy you don't have many bargaining chips when it comes to negotiating.

1andrew1 27-10-2020 11:07

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36055092)
You can sneer at Leavers if you want to, but it hardly does the best for the EU's members to have their exports to the UK to be hampered by duties and paperwork, etc and to have no access to British fishing waters.

It cuts both ways.

Yes, we started it and the more the EU behaves like *******s, the more right there was in the 52% viewpoint.


Sorry to break the news to you, but both imports and exports to the UK from the EU will be hampered by paperwork even with a deal in place. That's a consequence of leaving the single market.

Maybe also need to add that you won't be able to use passport lanes labelled "EU and EEA citizens only".

There's probably a few more things to update you on here but best not unsettle you too much in one post. ;)

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36055093)
Indeed. They're a trade bloc of members. The UK not getting the benefits of membership without the costs of membership is an obvious starting point for any similar situation.

Unfortunately when you are a small, declining economy you don't have many bargaining chips when it comes to negotiating.

This talk from Michael Gove is fascinating in terms of not invoking Article 50 straight away, how we can set the pace etc.
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/po...-brexit/16/10/

GrimUpNorth 27-10-2020 11:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36055104)
Sorry to break the news to you, but both imports and exports to the UK from the EU will be hampered by paperwork even with a deal in place. That's a consequence of leaving the single market.

We all know Boris will cave at the last minute and sign up to a far from equitable better than nothing deal (certainly nothing like the easiest free trade deal in the history of easy free trade deals we were promised) and then he'll have the shameless front to try and proclaim that the UK shitty end of the stick deal we're then lumbered with was his master plan all along (:rolleyes: - for Nomad ;)).

1andrew1 27-10-2020 11:32

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36055109)
We all know Boris will cave at the last minute and sign up to a far from equitable better than nothing deal (certainly nothing like the easiest free trade deal in the history of easy free trade deals we were promised) and then he'll have the shameless front to try and proclaim that the UK shitty end of the stick deal we're then lumbered with was his master plan all along (:rolleyes: - for Nomad ;)).

Agreed - as soon as BoJo announced he was "taking personal charge of negotiations" I heard all the French fishermen immediately placed orders for new vessels knowing the direction of travel the talks would take with BoJo in charge. :D

Hugh 27-10-2020 12:46

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36055065)
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What about those who claim they have but all their posts say they haven't?

What about those who claim to be "impartial observers" but all their posts say they aren’t?

papa smurf 27-10-2020 12:53

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36055117)
What about those who claim to be "impartial observers" but all their posts say they aren’t?

I have always been in favour of brexit.

1andrew1 27-10-2020 13:28

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YouGov - The Times Tracker How well or badly do you think the government are doing at handling Britain's exit from the European Union?
Totally badly 59%
Totally well 29%
Don't know 12%
https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/use3qqel...r_201022_W.pdf

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36055117)
What about those who claim to be "impartial observers" but all their posts say they aren’t?

I think the impartial, observing Trump supporters are to be found in the US election thread. ;)

Sephiroth 27-10-2020 13:36

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36055104)
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
You can sneer at Leavers if you want to, but it hardly does the best for the EU's members to have their exports to the UK to be hampered by duties and paperwork, etc and to have no access to British fishing waters.

It cuts both ways.

Yes, we started it and the more the EU behaves like *******s, the more right there was in the 52% viewpoint.

Sorry to break the news to you, but both imports and exports to the UK from the EU will be hampered by paperwork even with a deal in place. That's a consequence of leaving the single market.

Maybe also need to add that you won't be able to use passport lanes labelled "EU and EEA citizens only".

There's probably a few more things to update you on here but best not unsettle you too much in one post. ;)

Well, take another look at what Mr K said and to what I was replying:

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Originally Posted by Mr K
Maybe the EU aren't punishing us, but doing the best for their members?
Plus I said "It cuts both ways".

So really you had no need to reply.





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