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Good move, BBC.

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That sounds like a no then.;)

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Thirteen year old material that you've already paid for!

All BBC programs from the past should be available on iPlayer as a right not a 'wow look how lucky you are'

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BBC programming has never been available on that basis. Actors who appear in their in-house productions are entitled to repeat fees if the material is shown again. Renegotiating this to allow for iPlayer repeats was the reason not all programming was available on the iPlayer when it first launched, and why initially the catch up period for content they did manage to negotiate was only 7 days.

On top of that, at least half of their non-factual content is pitched to them by an outside production company (Endemol or one of its subsidiaries being probably the biggest contributor in this field). If the BBC picks up the rights to one of these productions they get some creative input, then exclusive rights to the first screening followed by 30-day iPlayer catch up, and that’s it. They don’t own it and can’t provide it as a box set afterwards unless they have negotiated that with the copyright holder.

Obvs it’s easier for them to negotiate and pay for box set streaming rights for material they own the copyright to, but just because it’s their copyright still doesn’t mean they can do it at zero cost to themselves.

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... agree.

All very well the BBC making plans with ITV or whoever to take on Netflix, but it would help if they actually made their own programmes.

Endemol is controlled by Murdoch and the other large "independent" production companies being owned by John Malone and Sony. Between them they control more current and recent-past British TV, than the Beeb, ITV and Ch4 put together.

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The BBC is forbidden by its own charter from making everything in-house. I suspect there may be similar PSB licence conditions imposed on ITV. This was a decision initially taken in the 1980s as a means of privatising TV production without directly breaking up the BBC. It isn’t a situation that’s ever going to change. Even if it was thought desirable to do it, the BBC doesn’t have the capacity to produce everything in house any more. Last time they did so, they had only 2 TV channels and they both closed down overnight. :D

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...just coming back on your comments about actors and their repeat fees which is why a lot of the old BBC stuff isn't on iplayer, did you see the story about Lionsgate buying a talent agency:

I find that interesting because if other media companies do the same thing, it will ultimately solve the problems you highlighted in your earlier post as the media companies will be on both sides of any deal involving actors, producers etc

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Shame it doesn't include the classic Who episodes.

Most of the post 2005 has been on Netflix for a while anyway.

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Yes l loved the older episodes as it brings me back to my youth.:)

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It may have a further effect on future productions, but I think the practice of 30-day catch-up and occasional free box set releases is an established standard now. What it won’t have any affect on is the contracts that prevailed during the classic Who era, which were negotiated at a time when Equity, the actors union, was an immensely powerful closed shop. It costs real money to repeat any classic BBC TV show, which is why they generally only get repeated on commercial stations such as those in the UKTV network, and are very unlikely ever to appear as a free box set on the iPlayer.

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Leaving aside old episodes of Dr Who which probably does still get quite a few viewers, who here watches old shows anyway?

The future of streaming is on what's to come. Once the shows get beyond ten years old, most people don't bother with them.

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A little bit of good news for Game of Thrones fans, series 1-7 has returned to Now TV.

Den will be pleased!

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Not being grumpy as that is not me but it took long enough to come back on there OB.:)

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Vodafone UK has teamed up with Amazon to become the first UK mobile company to offer Amazon Prime Video as part of its mobile plans.

The agreement means that Vodafone UK customers will be able to enjoy Amazon prime Video series such as The Marvelous Mrs Maisel and The Grand Tour, and forthcoming series Cloak and Dagger and Tom Clancy’s Jack Ryan as part of a Vodafone Red Entertainment plan.

https://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018...-mobile-plans/

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I know. Sky decided to repeat all 7 series twice over on Sky Atlantic since it was last on Now TV, and I suppose they wanted to get as much advertising revenue from it as possible during that time.

Bear in mind you need to finish watching the end of series 6 by 31 August, as they will take it off again then. No end date has appeared for series 7 so far.

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Judging by this and the BT deal, it shouldn't be long now before Amazon Prime comes to our screens.