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papa smurf 29-09-2024 17:48

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36183549)
But shouldn't we be discussing the current Government's policies? I mean, Rosie Duffield's letter to the Prime Minister, really is a keeper. :rofl:

Oh dear

we should but all you get is drivel about ex prime ministers and 14 years constantly spouted it's quite tedious and irellevant to the debate but it serves to distract from todays problems.

Kursk 29-09-2024 17:56

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36183550)
we should but all you get is drivel about ex prime ministers and 14 years constantly spouted it's quite tedious and irellevant to the debate but it serves to distract from todays problems.

Aw Papa, I don't think our members would use diversion tactics. They are concerned about the Country not political point scoring. Those who voted Labour, well, this is their moment - surely they won't waste it by harping back for years? :monkey:

nomadking 29-09-2024 18:31

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183539)
It is, and by no means is this a competition. But nobody has ever, or ever could, sullied the office of the PM quite as impressively as bullshitting Boris.

(57 resignations under his ensure).

Was that MPs resigning or simply not seeking re-election for an election that they were likely to lose?

Russ 29-09-2024 19:11

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36183552)
Was that MPs resigning or simply not seeking re-election for an election that they were likely to lose?

Resigning.

nomadking 29-09-2024 19:12

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183554)
Resigning.

As MPs?

Russ 29-09-2024 19:16

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36183550)
we should but all you get is drivel about ex prime ministers and 14 years constantly spouted it's quite tedious and irellevant to the debate but it serves to distract from todays problems.

Just doing what the Tory fanboys were doing during the last 14 year shitshow.

Or is it different for when Labour are in power?

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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36183555)
As MPs?

From government

papa smurf 29-09-2024 19:33

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183556)
Just doing what the Tory fanboys were doing during the last 14 year shitshow.

Or is it different for when Labour are in power?

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From government

At least we agree you're supporting a shitshow:tu:

Russ 29-09-2024 19:53

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I’m not supporting anyone

Mr K 29-09-2024 20:26

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36183558)
At least we agree you're supporting a shitshow:tu:

So are you....:confused:
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36151363)
I repaid the the gov by voting labour for the first time in my life,pick the id and the Tax out of that sushi


papa smurf 29-09-2024 20:30

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36183560)
So are you....:confused:

that was the local council elections,i didn't vote labour or con in the general election

Pierre 29-09-2024 22:32

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183518)
I mean, almost bankrupting the economy in the space of a few days takes some real beating.

A well used worn out trope, wheeled out feverishly by Labour and their supporters that don’t really know what actually happened.

https://thecritic.co.uk/no-liz-truss...h-the-economy/

Also, a trope not challenged by the Tories at the time, as it suited them so that they could oust Truss and install Sunak, as the pesky membership didn’t vote the correct way.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183537)
It’s amazing how many people seem to think 2 to 3 months is plenty enough time to judge a government trying to fix a mess caused by 14 years to “austerity” and corruption.

They’re not being judged on that…..yet.

They’re being judged on this:…….

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2374277.html


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Labour will pledge to “turn the page on Tory sleaze” if it wins the next election

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We will clean up politics, so that by the end of our first term people don’t just feel better off, they can see that politics is working for them, not for Westminster
Well millions of pensioners won’t feel better off.

They’re being judged because they came into office and were immediately found out to be everything they accused the other lot of being

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183542)
But there's nothing wrong with stating the pointlessness of comparing one Prime Minister.

Absolutely correct, comparing Prime Ministers is completely pointless, but you keep doing it.

Boris isn’t here, calling back to him serves no purpose.

Starmer is PM, and he (and Labour) are not living up to their own hype.

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 36183559)
I’m not supporting anyone

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck……………..it’s a duck.

1andrew1 29-09-2024 23:27

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To me, people voted for a competent, drama-free government and an end to corruption. It's not a great look to be seen to be taking so many freebies and this political misjudgement does not tick the competent box.

Whilst it's not the best of starts, Starmer has a big majority, time on his side and an opposition currently focused on electing its new leader.

Hom3r 30-09-2024 09:50

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36183548)
So as someone who’s supposedly ‘brave brought’ to click Tory. Would you care to comment on Kemi Badenochs statement regarding maternity pay ?


She's out of order.


But as said on TV last night during a paper review.


Many women out there rely on it.


We need those people who don't need it to say so and not claim it.

1andrew1 30-09-2024 10:24

Re: Here comes the tax rises
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36183566)
Absolutely correct, comparing Prime Ministers is completely pointless, but you keep doing it.

Boris isn’t here, calling back to him serves no purpose.

Comparing a prime minister to previous prime ministers is an absolutely sensible thing to do. We benchmark broadband providers, energy providers etc so why not Prime Ministers?

What is is not so good is to resort to whataboutery to detract from analysis of a prime minister.

mrmistoffelees 30-09-2024 11:14

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Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36183634)
She's out of order.


But as said on TV last night during a paper review.


Many women out there rely on it.


We need those people who don't need it to say so and not claim it.

Highly unlikely that people are going to say that they don’t need free money. So that would mean the government would need to decide and implement a limit at which new mothers wouldn’t qualify.

Now, just hang on a minute…..


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