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Hugh 10-03-2023 18:31
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
What’s a "keftie"?

denphone 10-03-2023 18:37
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Its funny how some posters resort to name calling when their arguments are weak.

Hugh 10-03-2023 19:54
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36147902)
Its funny how some posters resort to name calling when their arguments are weak.
Yes, it’s eye-opening, isn’t it? ;)

Sephiroth 10-03-2023 20:11
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147899)
What’s a "keftie"?
You'll do.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 36147902)
Its funny how some posters resort to name calling when their arguments are weak.
Let's get this right.

My argument that all sorts of undocumented baddies and economic migrants are a threat to British culture if it goes on unabated is weak? Right?

And, by corollary, do want these people here?

GrimUpNorth 10-03-2023 21:17
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147910)
You'll do.

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Let's get this right.

My argument that all sorts of undocumented baddies and economic migrants are a threat to British culture if it goes on unabated is weak? Right?

And, by corollary, do want these people here?
I suppose if the government and/or right-wing press have brainwashed you into believing the boats are full of bad people then I can understand your view (I suppose someone has to believe the rhetoric). However, if as is probably the case, the bad people are a small minority isn't it over the top to make coming here pretty much impossible.

Mr K 10-03-2023 21:27
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147910)
You'll do.

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Let's get this right.

My argument that all sorts of undocumented baddies and economic migrants are a threat to British culture if it goes on unabated is weak? Right?

And, by corollary, do want these people here?
What's wrong with economic migrants? We have a shortage of workers in many areas. We're too busy getting old, posting divisive crap on forums and tweeting to work.
Who is going to pay the taxes for that state pension that is increasing by an absurd amount compared to wage rises ? Who is going to wipe your backside when you can't? Economic migrants if you're lucky. You'll have to put your xenophobia to one side one day.

Hugh 10-03-2023 23:26
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147910)
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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
What’s a "keftie"?
You'll do.[COLOR="Silver"]
Sounds like a Telegraph/CCHQ standard attack - make something up, then when questioned on it, just repeat it…

John Redwood is obviously rubbing off on you… :shocked:

Mr K 10-03-2023 23:44
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147920)
John Redwood is obviously rubbing off on you… :shocked:
Please Hugh, not even after the watershed. I won't sleep now.....

Sephiroth 10-03-2023 23:49
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36147913)
I suppose if the government and/or right-wing press have brainwashed you into believing the boats are full of bad people then I can understand your view (I suppose someone has to believe the rhetoric). However, if as is probably the case, the bad people are a small minority isn't it over the top to make coming here pretty much impossible.
What's wrong with them staying in France or the other safe countries through which they passed?

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36147914)
What's wrong with economic migrants? We have a shortage of workers in many areas. We're too busy getting old, posting divisive crap on forums and tweeting to work.
Who is going to pay the taxes for that state pension that is increasing by an absurd amount compared to wage rises ? Who is going to wipe your backside when you can't? Economic migrants if you're lucky. You'll have to put your xenophobia to one side one day.
Economic migrants via a legal route is fine. People fleeing from oppression is fine. People who have deliberately thrown away their documents are a potential serious threat to the country. If you do't see that then you need to do some re-evaluation.

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36147920)
Sounds like a Telegraph/CCHQ standard attack - make something up, then when questioned on it, just repeat it…

John Redwood is obviously rubbing off on you… :shocked:
Nah - my eyes are open and I smell the coffee.

Hugh 11-03-2023 10:57
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
If it’s CCHQ coffee, it’s probably Komi Luwak…

Sephiroth 11-03-2023 14:18
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Last time I was in CCHQ was 1987. Later that evening went to the Kundan with Ken Clarkv(Curry house with a division bell).

Hugh 11-03-2023 14:30
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147978)
Last time I was in CCHQ was 1987. Later that evening went to the Kundan with Ken Clarkv(Curry house with a division bell).
Last time I was there was the November 1990 Leadership challenge.

GrimUpNorth 11-03-2023 14:32
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36147923)
Economic migrants via a legal route is fine. People fleeing from oppression is fine. People who have deliberately thrown away their documents are a potential serious threat to the country. If you do't see that then you need to do some re-evaluation.
You see the error in your assumption? No? Well let me try and explain. Being desperate to get somewhere that you know full well won't let you in because there're loads of hand wringers scared of your nationality, skin colour or religion etc means you're likely to do desperate things like throw away your documents but this in turn does not automatically mean you're in one of the groups the hand wringers seem so scared of, you're making me think about the episode of Young Sheldon where he's scared of catching the flu.

noel43 11-03-2023 14:34
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36147914)
What's wrong with economic migrants? We have a shortage of workers in many areas. We're too busy getting old, posting divisive crap on forums and tweeting to work.
Who is going to pay the taxes for that state pension that is increasing by an absurd amount compared to wage rises ? Who is going to wipe your backside when you can't? Economic migrants if you're lucky. You'll have to put your xenophobia to one side one day.
We don't have a shortage of workers, we have a shortage of people who will work.

Paul 11-03-2023 17:40
Re: Rishi Sunak is Prime Minister
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36147981)
You see the error in your assumption?
Did you see the error in yours :angel:
As you quoted, he stated "People who have deliberately thrown away their documents are a potential serious threat to the country."
You're assuming he meant all of them, he didnt actually say that. ;)

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Originally Posted by noel43 (Post 36147984)
We don't have a shortage of workers, we have a shortage of people who will work.
Judging by a couple of teenagers in our family, they seem to think that money will just roll in without them actually needing to do any work.


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