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Chris 28-01-2022 14:51

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
I don't think the Tweeter in question was quite arguing over whether we may or may not run out of gas. Rather he was interested in the argument that the present high wholesale prices don't justify further exploration or exploitation, because they would still be sold on a global market and would not be dedicated to the UK and capable of giving us much lower prices than anywhere else.

I think his argument falls down a bit because if we were able to significantly increase the commodity available in the market then the global price would come down; plus, natural resources extracted from the UK do generate income for the treasury. So it's not quite as black and white as all that.

Hugh 28-01-2022 14:53

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36111468)
We haven't 'run out' of gas, but it's sold to those who will pay more than the UK to have it ;)

Unfortunately, not that simple.

We exported around 1 TWh of natural gas, but imported around 478 TWh of natural gas (pages 4 and 5 of attached document).

https://assets.publishing.service.go...atural_gas.pdf

https://assets.publishing.service.go.../DUKES_4.5.xls

Carth 28-01-2022 14:57

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
How much was the exported price?
How much was the imported price?

;)

Hugh 28-01-2022 15:00

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36111479)
How much was the exported price?
How much was the imported price?

;)

Come on! It's the UK - we probably sold it for half of what it cost to import... :D

(pretty sure we didn't sell it for nearly 500 times the import cost.. ;))

Damien 28-01-2022 15:00

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36109291)
You can probably do that for PAYE to, I do for other things most years but haven't bothered for the last couple, saving them up!

My father in law got his electric and gas bill for the last 18 months today, £10 000 :shocked: goodness knows what it'll be in the next eighteen months and it certainly puts my up to 20 quid a month rise in to perspective :(

Just catching up on this thread. Did you ever find out what this was?

Taf 29-01-2022 10:34

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Our forced move to Scottish Power is now complete. Based on the past 2 years' consumption, we'll be paying around £45 per year more, but the DD is staying at £92 pm due to the transferred credit of £240.

The April change of the cap will be painful though.

TheDaddy 30-01-2022 15:52

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36111481)
Just catching up on this thread. Did you ever find out what this was?

Got a horrible feeling the more I thought about it and did crude calculations that it's right! I will look into it for them as the partners health isn't great and she finds their lack of concern about it/ lack of will to change their ways exasperating, as do I tbf but then they're not my parents!

Jaymoss 30-01-2022 16:22

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36111653)
Got a horrible feeling the more I thought about it and did crude calculations that it's right! I will look into it for them as the partners health isn't great and she finds their lack of concern about it/ lack of will to change their ways exasperating, as do I tbf but then they're not my parents!

that is an insane amount of consumption though

£555 a month
£18 a day
Which equates if just electric to 90 Kwh a day consumption

Chris 30-01-2022 16:27

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Maybe check what they’ve got in the attic. Do they spend an unusually large amount on compost bags as well?

Jaymoss 30-01-2022 16:34

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36111659)
Maybe check what they’ve got in the attic. Do they spend an unusually large amount on compost bags as well?

an 8 plant grow only costs about £250 in energy for the full grow so even if it was a farm it would struggle to cost that much unless it was maxing out the house electrics hahahaha

so I been told haha

Mad Max 30-01-2022 16:47

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
:devsmoke:

Jimmy-J 30-01-2022 18:26

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
We've just had our £140 Warm Home Discount, I make sure we apply for it before the end of September each year.

Mad Max 30-01-2022 18:30

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
£200 here in Scotland.

TheDaddy 30-01-2022 21:12

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36111658)
that is an insane amount of consumption though

£555 a month
£18 a day
Which equates if just electric to 90 Kwh a day consumption

Yes that's my crude calculation to, ama zing isn't it, they do so many daft things, you wouldn't believe they were doctors not that long ago

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36111659)
Maybe check what they’ve got in the attic. Do they spend an unusually large amount on compost bags as well?

No but there's rooms they've not been in for years that they're heating, having the window open and the heating on, having the hot water on all day and then not having a bath, so much stuff they do boggles my mind and there's so much more they do on top of that, I will check it out but I wouldn't be shocked if I come away without a discount

Paul 30-01-2022 21:17

Re: Energy companies collapse
 
I'm curious why they didnt get a bill for 18 months ? that seems a huge gap.


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