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Interesting theory. Shame about the floods, though.

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Why do you think we are protecting ourselves against the hordes?

**Joke

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Really? Well, that says it all about your perspective, jfman. :D

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Transparency so we can make informed decisions. The security services have no issues, so why not?

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And none of that has any bearing on the Labour proposals here. It’s lovely scaremongering though.

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There’s no link between the proposals in Venezuela and what Labour Party are proposing here. It’s the “socialist” bogeyman being wheeled out once more.

The Venezuelan economy is also suffering from US sanctions. It’s not like them to get involved in South American politics because of ideology...

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That’s really surprising, as we all know that we we talk about the weather on the tv or radio in the UK we only mean southeast

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Venezuela had problems long before any sanctions were applied, and mostly the sanctions are aimed at individuals.
The earliest sets of sanctions were terrorism-related(financial support for Hezbollah) and Drug Trafficking-related. Obama then added ones for "Antidemocratic Actions, Human Rights Violations, and Corruption".


Venezuela targeted freebies at the poor without looking at the bigger picture. EG if Corbyn starts forcing companies to give away part of their shares for nothing, then who in their right mind is going to invest in any UK company.

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More Venezuela chat. If Corbyn did this... if Corbyn did that...

There’s no evidence at all that Corbyn intends to follow the same policies. For a start EU membership, or single market alignment and a customs union, would be totally unsustainable. (That would be the Labour deal that will protect jobs, protect the NHS and protect workers rights).

If you read the actual Labour proposal you’ll find out it’s quite boring really. Employees at no point own shares, nor does the state, and the maximum dividend any employee can get is £500 (or about 25p an hour onto their salary for a full time employee).

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Jeremy Corbyn's £1.2TRILLION election bill revealed (that's £43,000 per household): Dossier exposes eye-watering cost of Labour plans to nationalise public services, give Britons a four-day week and guaranteed income



Oh dear the true cost of Marxist Britain.



The astonishing figure, based on the additional cost of Labour's policies over a five-year Parliament, is contained in a Tory dossier produced despite furious objections from Shadow Chancellor John McDonnell over the use of civil servants in its creation.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...yns-plans.html

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A laughable article. Unsubstantiated figures, antisemitism and the IRA all get an outing in there.

Might as well have a front page headline “LOOK! A SQUIRREL!”.

Interestingly the national debt is up £1 TRILLION since the the coalition and we’ve nothing to show for it.

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Compiled by civil servants ignore at your peril,unless your wolfie smith,or a member of the Tooting popular front.

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If you carefully read the sentence it doesn’t actually confirm servants were involved.

It confirms John McDonnell was furious at the fact the proposal that they could be. It doesn’t say who actually pulled the figures. Could have been Dominic “the Conservatives hate the poor” Cummings in between briefings for all we know.

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Turn it into a conspiracy theory if it makes the figures go down better.

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https://www.theguardian.com/business...h-labour-plans

Substantiated article confirming the Civil Service would not publish figures. If that was true then, it’s even more likely to be the case now as the Civil Service is governed by even stricter impartiality rules in the pre-election period.

It suits the Mail though to not be specific.

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Now lets see how the Conservatives own figures add up as then the undecided's can form our own opinions about each parties financial figures.

Oh hang on the The business minister Kwasi Karteng has decided that us the voters have no right to know what the Conservative financials figures are as well.

https://news.sky.com/story/sophy-rid...ments-11858673

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...tics-live-news

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You seem to be very picky when it comes to your take on Corbyn and McDonnell. Of course the full horror of what this dreadful duo have in store for our country does not appear in their manifesto, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. I believe the majority of the population has been spooked by what McDonnell has been saying and the media has done a pretty good job of reminding us of Corbyn's record.

These two Marxists are dangerous and people absolutely do need to be reminded what they stand for.

Incidentally, as has been pointed out before, the national debt is so high because we had to bring down the deficit, so we do have rather a lot to show for it, actually.

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While the sums won't add up for their manifesto we can comfortably say they will spend less as they continue to roll back the purpose and function of the state. The relentless attack on the poor will continue, the benefits freeze resume, working terms and conditions reduce. Inequality will rise, food bank use continue to rocket, the fifth richest country in the world will continue to claim it "can't afford" to do otherwise.

What little remaining state assets that can have profit extracted from them will be privatised. The NHS falling prey to US venture capitalists and insurance companies.

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More utterly baseless hyperbolic nonsense from Conservative Party HQ there old boy. I'd have thought you'd have tired of regurgitating it by now.