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Re: The 2017 General Election

More of Corbyn's hypocrisy:

https://order-order.com/2017/06/16/r...-human-rights/

So he tells everyone the Tories want to repeal the human rights act in order to further subjugate the rights of ordinary people yet then recommends a course of action -requisitioning other people's property - which is contrary to the provisions of that very act.

To be honest I'd have thought Corbyn had plenty of super rich lefty celebrity mates with more than a few spare bedrooms, if not houses not a million miles away from the location of the terrible tower block fire. Maybe they could just get on set us all an example instead of constantly whining about other people not doing their bit whilst they're off further feathering their own nests...

Re: The 2017 General Election

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35903601)

I think Guido has left some parts of the ECHR out there, unless it's overrriden in the UK version of it:

http://www.echr.coe.int/Documents/Convention_ENG.pdf

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Every natural or legal person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment
of his possessions. No one shall be deprived of his possessions
except in the public interest and subject to the conditions provided
for by law and by the general principles of international law.

The preceding provisions shall not, however, in any way impair
the right of a State to enforce such laws as it deems necessary
to control the use of property in accordance with the general
interest or to secure the payment of taxes or other contributions
or penalties.

This article here also suggests the public interest can override the right to property:

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/...ction-property

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There are some situations in which public authorities can take things you own or restrict the way you use them. This is only possible where the authority can show that its action is lawful and necessary for the public interest. If your property is taken away, you should be entitled to compensation.

The government must strike a fair balance between your interests as a property owner and the general interests of society as a whole.

After all I believe this is how compulsory purchase orders, needed for something like HS2, aren't in violation of the ECHR (although probably result in many a court case).

Now I don't think this is feasible because CPOs take a while to action with an appeals process and since we're talking about very expensive houses it could cost a ton.

Corbyn is spouting a populist and unrealistic policy but I don't think it's a breach of the ECHR. I am not a lawyer but I think Guido has gone with a weak case there.

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To be honest I'd have thought Corbyn had plenty of super rich lefty celebrity mates with more than a few spare bedrooms, if not houses not a million miles away from the location of the terrible tower block fire. Maybe they could just get on set us all an example instead of constantly whining about other people not doing their bit whilst they're off further feathering their own nests...

I think a lot of the 'rich lefities' have been helping. Hans Zimmer donated all the proceeds of his concert the other night the fund, many have contributed to the fund (I know Coldplay and Brian Eno did), Jamie Oliver got his restuant in White City to feed/drink those made homeless for free, Lily Allen offered rooms to people reportedly as she lives in the area, Raheem Sterling also made a big donation it seems.

Re: The 2017 General Election

Corbyn is a communist fool and attempting to live in the past. He doesn't realise thet most peoples expectaions have changed. The world has changed. I'm fed up of him already!

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35903622)

Corbyn is a communist fool and attempting to live in the past. He doesn't realise thet most peoples expectaions have changed. The world has changed. I'm fed up of him already!

He may well be all those things but I think the public would support the idea of filling up all those towers bought by foreign investors, who never visit, never use them or furnish them or let anyone else use them purely to sell in years time for a big profit after they've helped to manipulate the market., my own opinion if this happened wouldn't be sympathetic towards them

Re: The 2017 General Election

The Telegraph is reporting May's approval ratings have plummeted:

Theresa May's personal ratings plummet as support for Jeremy Corbyn surges

I guess she just has to keep her head down and not talk to anyone until the Corbyn fever fizzles out?

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35903648)

Failing to speak to survivors of the tower block fire won't have done her any favours. I wonder if she was afraid of any backlash after the cuts to the fire service and failure to implement extra fire safety measures??

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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 35903648)

The Telegraph is reporting May's approval ratings have plummeted:

Theresa May's personal ratings plummet as support for Jeremy Corbyn surges

I guess she just has to keep her head down and not talk to anyone until the Corbyn fever fizzles out?

A week is a long time in politics as they say and its certainly been that for Theresa May..

Re: The 2017 General Election

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35903390)

Jo Swinson probably, hope it isn't Cable.

Why don't you like Cable? I've always thought him to be ok for a politician.

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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35903353)

Where've I ever said I attend LGBT meetings??

Ages ago (think it was a discussion about the gay cake issue). No worries, I just wondered if the LGBT community were afraid of their rights being eroded because of the involvement of the DUP.

The pro abortion movement has been very vocal about their concerns about DUP policies

Re: The 2017 General Election

The DUP are not going to get any of those policies into law simply by agreeing to help with a few votes, anyone who thinks otherwise is in cookoo land.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35903653)

Why don't you like Cable? I've always thought him to be ok for a politician.

He'll be 78 when the 2021 election is called. I'm all in favour of people being active in old age but how can he seriously go to the country and ask for an electoral mandate that would be expected to take him up to the age of 83?

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 35903702)

He'll be 78 when the 2021 election is called. I'm all in favour of people being active in old age but how can he seriously go to the country and ask for an electoral mandate that would be expected to take him up to the age of 83?

this parliament wont last 5 years no chance and that only 4 2021 wont last that long either

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35903703)

this parliament wont last 5 years no chance and that only 4 2021 wont last that long either

l will give it a year , two if we are lucky...

Re: The 2017 General Election

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35903705)

l will give it a year , two if we are lucky...

Don't you mean unlucky Den ? ;)

This 'government' is already a shambles, they won't be able to do anything without the DUPs approval. They are obsessed with Brexit and nothing else. Getting the Queen's speech passed isn't a given. The longer they try and cling on, the more unpopular they'll be, all the better for Labour, but the worse for us.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35903715)

It will not be the worse for us at all. We've avoided a communist leader at the helms.

But that's right, ignore democracy as usual. They are obsessed with Brexit because that's what people voted for and that's what the majority of people want.