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Ramrod 13-01-2015 12:41

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35752366)
Not sure if that's enough mate, I think not to be cowards we have to put on a sandwich board coated with these cartoons and walk around the middle of Bradford and Luton (Die Hard 3 Style) Then and only then are we doing our bit.

Likewise should we in future support any military campaignes, anyone that wants to show such support on here will have to go straight down to army careers and join up, lest we want to be labelled cowards by certain members of this site?

I did think that the massive crowd in Paris, there to protest and show solidarity, would have been much more effective at showing solidarity if they had each been holding one of the offending cartoons.
Likewise, every 'je suis charlie' pic/post on facebook etc really isn't demosntrating anything concrete without a cartoon of the prophet beside it. Without that, it's just words.

Ignitionnet 13-01-2015 12:59

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35752380)
Likewise, every 'je suis charlie' pic/post on facebook etc really isn't demosntrating anything concrete without a cartoon of the prophet beside it. Without that, it's just words.

I'm on it, Chief :)

Russ 13-01-2015 13:35

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35752366)
Not sure if that's enough mate, I think not to be cowards we have to put on a sandwich board coated with these cartoons and walk around the middle of Bradford and Luton (Die Hard 3 Style) Then and only then are we doing our bit.

Likewise should we in future support any military campaignes, anyone that wants to show such support on here will have to go straight down to army careers and join up, lest we want to be labelled cowards by certain members of this site?

Good call, free speech doesn't apply to you then :)

martyh 13-01-2015 14:22

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35752373)
Your post, that I replied to, implied that the cartoonists shouldn't have been publishing what they were. Or did I misread it? :(

You've misunderstood it,If the magazine is publishing cartoons of Mohammed they are deliberately setting out to insult every Muslim on the planet not just the nutters with guns but every single peaceful one and whichever way you try to justify it that just is not right .Had the magazine just insulted the jihadists then that would fine ,no problem at all but the magazine is insulting all Muslims simply by printing pictures of their prophet

papa smurf 13-01-2015 15:26

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam tells fellow Muslims who do not appreciate the 'freedoms' of living in the West to 'pack your bags and f*** off' on live TV

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Sirius 13-01-2015 15:42

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35752406)
Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam tells fellow Muslims who do not appreciate the 'freedoms' of living in the West to 'pack your bags and f*** off' on live TV

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Wish we could do the same here.

papa smurf 13-01-2015 15:46

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 35752409)
Wish we could do the same here.

no chance mate

our leaders just pussy foot around the issue backed up by their army of roll over and appease merchants .

Sirius 13-01-2015 15:48

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35752411)
no chance mate

our leaders just pussy foot around the issue backed up by their army of roll over and appease merchants .

:tu:

Pierre 13-01-2015 15:54

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35752401)
You've misunderstood it,If the magazine is publishing cartoons of Mohammed they are deliberately setting out to insult every Muslim on the planet not just the nutters with guns but every single peaceful one and whichever way you try to justify it that just is not right .Had the magazine just insulted the jihadists then that would fine ,no problem at all but the magazine is insulting all Muslims simply by printing pictures of their prophet

take a minute to read what you have posted. Then write me a 2 pages of A4 report on why it is a complete load of bollocks.

Gary L 13-01-2015 15:58

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35752401)
but the magazine is insulting all Muslims simply by printing pictures of their prophet

It looks nothing like him.

Neither does this man.

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papa smurf 13-01-2015 16:01

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 35752414)
take a minute to read what you have posted. Then write me a 2 pages of A4 report on why it is a complete load of bollocks.

.


why limit it to what he just posted its all .......................................;)

Ramrod 13-01-2015 16:02

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyh (Post 35752401)
You've misunderstood it,If the magazine is publishing cartoons of Mohammed they are deliberately setting out to insult every Muslim on the planet

So what?.......that is/was their right :shrug:
They also have the right not to be murdered for exercising that right.

Damien 13-01-2015 16:06

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 35752418)
So what?.......that is/was their right :shrug:
They also have the right not to be murdered for exercising that right.

I don't think he is advocating people get murdered for it.

This seems quite simple so I am not sure why everyone is arguing. You can respect the notion of a free press whilst criticising what people are printing. Freedom of expression doesn't mean you're immune from being criticised for what you've expressed, indeed the criticism is itself a form of freedom of expression. Where is martyh saying they don't have the right to publish it?

Gary L 13-01-2015 16:11

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35752406)
Moroccan-born mayor of Rotterdam tells fellow Muslims who do not appreciate the 'freedoms' of living in the West to 'pack your bags and f*** off' on live TV

He has a point.
an obvious point.
a point that should be so obvious to them.

it's a bit like going to Mars and constantly complaining that the martians are not how you want them to be.

they'd tell you to go home too.

assuming they don't vaporise you first.

Sirius 13-01-2015 16:17

Re: Mass shooting in Paris
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35752421)
He has a point.
an obvious point.
a point that should be so obvious to them.

it's a bit like going to Mars and constantly complaining that the martians are not how you want them to be.

they'd tell you to go home too.

assuming they don't vaporise you first.

It may yet come to that ;)


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