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Stephen 13-11-2014 20:24

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35740888)
My moan is not with the content but why it took so long to arrive when other providers already had it.

You have to think about the rights issues. They may have had a contract signed for channel carriage rights but not On demand. Its the same reason that some programmes never appear on catch up or some things don't play on +1 channels(such as movies)

Its very complicated now with so many ways to view content. All bases need covered.

andy_m 13-11-2014 20:53

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Will the catch up 7 day stuff be available with a little c in arrow logo on the epg like with the BBC etc?

andrewbrown 13-11-2014 20:56

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35740838)
thankfully we got sports 3 in HD now

I don't know, when I used to play darts down the pub it always looked blurry to me.

Arthurgray50@blu 13-11-2014 21:44

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Why doesn't all the directors of VM sit down with the Sky directors for lunch and thrash out a deal for Sky Atlantic.

We always hear from Sky, 'we are always delighted to give our friends at Virgin Media, the best channels out of our portfolio.' Or is it that VM was the cheapest channels possible

Mr K 13-11-2014 21:47

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Sky won't let VM have Atlantic at any cost. It's full of US rubbish anyway.

I'd rather they got rid of some channels and cut prices.

Stephen 13-11-2014 21:51

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Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35740908)
Why doesn't all the directors of VM sit down with the Sky directors for lunch and thrash out a deal for Sky Atlantic.

We always hear from Sky, 'we are always delighted to give our friends at Virgin Media, the best channels out of our portfolio.' Or is it that VM was the cheapest channels possible

Arthur, this has been discussed many times now.

Its not about the directors at all.

VM and Sky have met to discuss carrying Atlantic on many occassions. Sky have been unfair in the amount they have been asking and VM aren't willing to pay that. VM will of course have countered offered and submitted their own offers which Sky then refused.

VM wants to carry Atlantic but at a reasonable cost that is fair to its customers.

theone2k10 13-11-2014 22:22

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35740909)
Sky won't let VM have Atlantic at any cost. It's full of US rubbish anyway.

I'd rather they got rid of some channels and cut prices.

I'd hardly call shows like The leftovers, girls, game of thrones, ray donovan, blue bloods and banshee rubbish but this tips on what Andrew said earlier in the thread a channel one person thinks is rubbish may be a decent channel for someone else.
I bet if Atlantic launched next week most of those who slate it would soon be watching it, i was a big slater of Atlantic until i got Nowtv and discovered some decent stuff on it.

Those who really want Atlantic just get Nowtv simples.

1andrew1 13-11-2014 22:26

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35740910)
VM wants to carry Atlantic but at a reasonable cost that is fair to its customers.

Not just VM. TalkTalk in the UK, UPC in Ireland, WightFibre on the Isle of Wight...none of these companies has yet been able to strike a deal for Sky Atlantic that makes economic sense yet they all carry the other Sky Entertainment channels.

theone2k10 13-11-2014 22:47

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35740916)
Not just VM. TalkTalk in the UK, UPC in Ireland, WightFibre on the Isle of Wight...none of these companies has yet been able to strike a deal for Sky Atlantic that makes economic sense yet they all carry the other Sky Entertainment channels.

They will get it next year somepoint i think SKY will up their game even more too especially now Sony are entering the tv streaming market which i'll post link too in netflix/streaming service thread.

Media Boy UK 13-11-2014 22:58

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MB Views: Is Virgin Media still in talks with LFC TV?

Is Virgin Media still in talks with Liverpool FC over its new HD Channel?

The "Channel no longer broadcasting" screen has been on air over the past two weeks now and still to be removed from Virgin Channel 544.

The last time Virgin did this was when ESPN was axe for two weeks just for it to reappear as part of the BT Sport deal.

Note: LFCTV was still on Virgin Channel 544 at time of posting.

1andrew1 13-11-2014 23:02

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35740918)
They will get it next year somepoint i think SKY will up their game even more too especially now Sony are entering the tv streaming market which i'll post link too in netflix/streaming service thread.

It will be interesting to see what Sky's strategy is in the future and whether Vodafone's TV offering will offer premium channels like VM or just be a free PVR like EE's offering.

RichardCoulter 13-11-2014 23:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35740888)
My moan is not with the content but why it took so long to arrive when other providers already had it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35740897)
You have to think about the rights issues. They may have had a contract signed for channel carriage rights but not On demand. Its the same reason that some programmes never appear on catch up or some things don't play on +1 channels(such as movies)

Its very complicated now with so many ways to view content. All bases need covered.

VM have had the option of having the UKTV VOD service since it's inception.

From what I can gather, UKTV have eventually realised that VM weren't going to budge on the (undisclosed) amount that they were willing to pay. In the end, I am assuming that UKTV decided that an offer below what was expected for the service, that provided another income stream, was better than nothing.

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35740921)
MB Views: Is Virgin Media still in talks with LFC TV?

Is Virgin Media still in talks with Liverpool FC over its new HD Channel?

The "Channel no longer broadcasting" screen has been on air over the past two weeks now and still to be removed from Virgin Channel 544.

The last time Virgin did this was when ESPN was axe for two weeks just for it to reappear as part of the BT Sport deal.

Note: LFCTV was still on Virgin Channel 544 at time of posting.

Indeed, I was thinking that myself when looking for what had changed on the EPG the other day (turned out that 2x ITVBe slots had been added).

I haven't heard anything since hearing that LFC TV had approached VM to discuss carriage of the HD variant.

I had assumed that the talks had swiftly broken down with no agreement being reached when the SD variant was pulled from VM after Sky had appeared to stick their nose in and announce that the channel would only be available via themselves and an app.

However, soon after this, VM changed their "This channel is no longer available" message to "LFC TV are currently upgrading their service".

It has now been changed back, but it is very unusual for a minor channel to remain on the EPG after closure.

Normally, such a channel is only kept on for a week, presumably to inform customers of the closure and prevent some calls to CS.

The current state of play is that your guess is as good as mine MB, but if I hear anything i'll let everyone know (unlikely as we are all busy with the kead up to Chrustmas) :)

theone2k10 14-11-2014 02:45

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35740922)
It will be interesting to see what Sky's strategy is in the future and whether Vodafone's TV offering will offer premium channels like VM or just be a free PVR like EE's offering.

Indeed, it's quite clear that companies are starting to move more and more into the iptv market.
Maybe Sky will start going down that route in the not to distant future i think VM may follow suite too.

nialli 14-11-2014 08:48

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35740912)
I'd hardly call shows like The leftovers, girls, game of thrones, ray donovan, blue bloods and banshee rubbish but this tips on what Andrew said earlier in the thread a channel one person thinks is rubbish may be a decent channel for someone else.
I bet if Atlantic launched next week most of those who slate it would soon be watching it, i was a big slater of Atlantic until i got Nowtv and discovered some decent stuff on it.

Those who really want Atlantic just get Nowtv simples.

Or buys from iTunes or Amazon etc. HBO shows now appear a week or two after they finish showing on Atlantic. Boardwalk Empire season 5 available already.

muppetman11 14-11-2014 11:03

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35736491)
With ITV ordering its first new commission for ITV Encore, it will be interesting to see when this channel will actually be added to the VM lineup.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/c...&contentID=870

ITV commissions Midwinter of the Spirit for ITV Encore.

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