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Chris 17-05-2010 11:16

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Originally Posted by danielf (Post 35023220)
I'm alright with this if it is a step towards reforming the Lords to an elected chamber. If the idea is simply to create a majority so difficult legislation can be pushed through, it is just wrong and undemocratic, whatever the history of the Lords.

There is always bound to be an aspect of majority-building - because of what the Lords currently is, it is simply unavoidable. Stuffing it with sympathetic life peers is just what you do. Labour has been at it for 13 years, which is why it currently has a Labour majority. It is an unfortunate business, but I think we can live with it as the end, apparently, is in sight.

Angua 17-05-2010 16:18

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This time around adding peers to retain proportionality will only favour those who cooperate as a group, so all to the good IMHO.

Saaf_laandon_mo 17-05-2010 20:05

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/8688345.stm

Xaccers 17-05-2010 20:40

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 35023556)

In other news, spending cuts haven't been made despite Tory/Libdems assurances they would make them, Labour laws haven't been repealed despite Tory/Libdems saying they would be, man hasn't gone to Mars, despite Obama saying man would...
...BBC continues to host anti-coalition articles on their website.

Osem 17-05-2010 20:44

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35023590)
In other news, spending cuts haven't been made despite Tory/Libdems assurances they would make them, Labour laws haven't been repealed despite Tory/Libdems saying they would be, man hasn't gone to Mars, despite Obama saying man would...
...BBC continues to host anti-coalition articles on their website.

:tu:

Now there's a place which deserves a few judicious cuts in their bloated budget....

Flyboy 17-05-2010 20:49

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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 35023590)
In other news, spending cuts haven't been made despite Tory/Libdems assurances they would make them, Labour laws haven't been repealed despite Tory/Libdems saying they would be, man hasn't gone to Mars, despite Obama saying man would...
...BBC continues to host anti-coalition articles on their website.

Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.

Xaccers 17-05-2010 20:52

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35023608)
Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.

Nice to see irony is lost on you Mandy.
Did you not notice that all of the things I'd mentioned (except the BBC comment) haven't happened yet because there hasn't been enough time to impliment them?

Flyboy 17-05-2010 20:57

Re: [Update] The Liberal-Conservative Coalition
 
No, that'll be next week.

Don't you think name calling s a bit puerile?

Osem 17-05-2010 20:58

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35023608)
Apart from the six million pounds planned from public services.


You mean £6billion of course.... Well someone has to pay for all that New Labour profligacy or do you suggest UK PLC applies for bankruptcy and walks away from all its debts?....

Hugh 17-05-2010 21:55

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35023618)
No, that'll be next week.

Don't you think name calling s a bit puerile?

Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave", and described him and by implication 10.6 million Tory voters
Quote:

He is foremost a Tory and nothing they have ever said could be described as decent, truthful or honourable
:erm:

Flyboy 17-05-2010 21:57

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It would be handy for you to consider some perspective and context. ;)

Hugh 17-05-2010 21:59

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Originally Posted by Osem (Post 35023619)
You mean £6billion of course.... Well someone has to pay for all that New Labour profligacy or do you suggest UK PLC applies for bankruptcy and walks away from all its debts?....

Re spending plans, you appear to be confusing not spending money the country doesn't have (including on huge IT projects and management consultants) with £6 billion cuts in Public Services (but nice try at spinning, though).


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/05/132.jpg

Less than 1% difference in spending plans (hattip to Guido Fawkes)

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Originally Posted by Flyboy (Post 35023688)
It would be handy for you to consider some perspective and context. ;)

It would be handy for you not to be so tribalist and spinny....;)

Flyboy 18-05-2010 11:52

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35023692)
Re spending plans, you appear to be confusing not spending money the country doesn't have (including on huge IT projects and management consultants) with £6 billion cuts in Public Services (but nice try at spinning, though).


https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/05/132.jpg

Less than 1% difference in spending plans (hattip to Guido Fawkes)

Less than one per cent overall. Seeing as departments such as defence, health and overseas aid is supposedly ring-fenced (yeah, I won't be holding my breath on those), it is going to be considerably deeper and far more extensive elsewhere.

Osem 18-05-2010 12:13

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35023684)
Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave", and described him and by implication 10.6 million Tory voters :erm:

... and someone who's so passionately against prejudice and stereotyping when it suits.. :confused:

Gary L 18-05-2010 13:20

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 35023684)
Amusing from someone who insists on calling the Prime Minister "Dave",

His name is "Dave" :confused:


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