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Flyboy 23-10-2009 22:36
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Originally Posted by martyh (Post 34896596)
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34896590)
So, if he did two years National Service (it was called conscription during the war, not National Service) which ended in 1948, that means he started his National Service in 1946 - didn't the war end the year before?
i'm sure that one of the major papers will dig out any war records and plaster this error on their front page by sunday including all details of his expulsion from the conservative party
if this is an "error" on nicks part then it's going to cost him dearly
lieing about your fathers past to make him appear heroic whilst critising anothers for standing by his beliefs is a disgrace in my eyes
Trouble is though, he would have been twenty-three in nineteen forty-five and probably would have been conscripted, by then.

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Originally Posted by Earl of Bronze (Post 34896629)
400 jews murdered in eastern europe !?! Sweet jebus Flyboy, have you ever read anything about the Einsatzgruppen's actions ? Considering Sonderkommando 4a, along with various german police units killed 33,771 jews in a period of 2 days at Babi Yar (outside Kiev), then you really need to go read some history.... :erm:
I think you have misinterpreted the exchange between myself and Mr Angry.

Chris 23-10-2009 23:02
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If you want to discuss the conduct of members of this board I suggest you do it in private. This is a topic-based discussion, please stick to it.

I have removed several posts, but no infractions have been issued - for now. Let's see if we can keep it that way.

rashlan 24-10-2009 00:14
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Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34896646)
Quite apart from the bickering, one point was very well made, the fact that the BNP gained 1 million votes. I believe thats because no other party has the guts to openly comment on the current immigration status, & that it is out of control.

The BNP are a dead loss. Unelectable. For the moment.

Racial tension, political correctness, & the fear of upsetting foreigners is rife in Britain. The situation cannot continue. Control must be maintained, or there is no control.

I hope one of the main parties broach these issues, campaign, & regain control, governing as they should, for the benefit of the people in this country. That includes anyone not native to Britain, irrispective of colour or creed, but has come here for a better life, to add their culture to ours. Not for the benefit of others, who wish to change our laws, or culture.

The situation will only get worse, & will continue to decline untill someting is done. As long as these issues continue to dominate our life, the BNP will gain in strength.

Well people would be better off not trusting Labour on the issue. According to Tony Blairs adviser and speech writer, uncontrolled mass immigration was intended all along.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...r-adviser.html

Gary L 24-10-2009 01:00
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Originally Posted by rashlan (Post 34896694)
Well people would be better off not trusting Labour on the issue. According to Tony Blairs adviser and speech writer, uncontrolled mass immigration was intended all along.l
Scary.

alferret 24-10-2009 04:27
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There is nothing wrong with a multi-cultural country but I do get Griffins comments about the indigeonous inhabitants of this island are becoming less of a majority be it through migration and\or immigration. Labours stance on immigration has been and will always be appaling. Maybe it is time to grow a pair and tell the rest of the world "you want in? proove you need to be here" rather than the open borders policy we have had in recent years.
Find the illegal immigrants, round them up and send them home without the ££££'s or $$$$'s that tax payers fill their pockets with which incidently would be enough to fund their illegal return to the UK.
Economic migrancy to the UK from other area's especially the "newer European members" has put and is still putting a strain on this countries resources.
So maybe its not Nick Griffin we need due to his extreme right views but a party that has the balls to stand up to labours "open doors" policy.

TheDaddy 24-10-2009 05:51
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34896441)
That was going to happen anyway. The type of people who would actually sign up to be a member would be those already strongly in favour of them and thus trying to make a point about the criticism he received. He could have gone on there are called for death camps and their recruitment would have gone up.

His performance last night would not be enough to convince moderates. I mean his performance was not probably good enough to cause people to leave the BNP but there was nothing last night that would encourage people unless they are massive KKK fans or also suspect the Holocaust was a lie.
Yep it was gonna happen anyway....

More than a fifth of the public would consider voting for the British National Party, according to the first opinion poll taken since the appearance of its leader, Nick Griffin, on Question Time.

Support for the party has increased in the last month, a survey for The Daily Telegraph indicated.

The findings will lead to accusations that the BBC’s decision to invite the far-Right MEP on to its flagship current affairs programme may have backfired by giving him a national platform.

The YouGov poll was taken hours after Mr Griffin’s appearance on Thursday, before which anti-fascist protesters rioted outside BBC Television Centre in London.

The survey found that 22 per cent of voters would “seriously consider” voting for the BNP in a future local, general or European election. This included four per cent who said they would “definitely” consider voting for the party, three per cent who would “probably” consider it, and 15 per cent who said they were “possible” BNP voters.

Two-thirds said they would not consider voting for the party “under any circumstances” with the rest unsure.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...oting-BNP.html

Damien 24-10-2009 07:32
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The numbers are very soft. Only 4% say they would definitely consider voting for the party and two-thirds saying never. To be honest what the BNP are about has been exposed again and again. If people still want to vote them despite their views on mixed-race couples and the idea of kicking out everyone who wasn't born here and trying to get those of a different colour to 'leave'. Then there we go.

Imagine if they actually won power? So many professionals gone. NHS seriously understaffed you won't be able to find a doctor. I thankfully have the means to go to Europe so part of me hopes it happens so the white-elite can have their country.

martyh 24-10-2009 10:27
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it would be interesting to see what the actual question asked was
was it "will you be voting for the BNP in the next election"or
"would you CONCIDER voting for the BNP in the next election" or

2 very similar questions 2 very different meanings in the answer

arcamalpha2004 24-10-2009 10:29
Re: [Update] BNP on Question Time this week
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SMG (Post 34896646)
Quite apart from the bickering, one point was very well made, the fact that the BNP gained 1 million votes. I believe thats because no other party has the guts to openly comment on the current immigration status, & that it is out of control.

The BNP are a dead loss. Unelectable. For the moment.

Racial tension, political correctness, & the fear of upsetting foreigners is rife in Britain. The situation cannot continue. Control must be maintained, or there is no control.

I hope one of the main parties broach these issues, campaign, & regain control, governing as they should, for the benefit of the people in this country. That includes anyone not native to Britain, irrispective of colour or creed, but has come here for a better life, to add their culture to ours. Not for the benefit of others, who wish to change our laws, or culture.

The situation will only get worse, & will continue to decline untill someting is done. As long as these issues continue to dominate our life, the BNP will gain in strength.

I think that says it all really.
People feel pressured not to speak out on the issue of how many we allow in to this country.
If they do speak out, it is more often than not twisted by the other side,they are called Racist, simply because they are concerned at the amount of people in this country, the drain on the system.
Labour appear to have no balls, no spunk, and so the situation continues.
Meanwhile, the people who have had issues decide that the only time they can get their say is at the polls.
Hence why the BNP pulled so much of the vote.
It is not rocket science.
The feelings of the people come out in the end, some may find that distasteful, but as much as there are people who find it distasteful, there are going to be those that feel that the door needs closing.
Calling people Racist for having their say is not going to help, in the end what will happen will happen.

TheDaddy 24-10-2009 11:46
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 34896716)
The numbers are very soft. Only 4% say they would definitely consider voting for the party and two-thirds saying never.
I don't think they are soft, you forgot to add the 3% that's probable to and failed to factor in the number of people that are to ashamed to admit they are going to. Just about the only reason I can think of to be glad we dont have PR in Parliment.

downquark1 24-10-2009 12:27
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I understand people's frustrations about being unable to speak out for fear of being called racist, but how that is justification for voting for a blatantly racist party is beyond me.

Gary L 24-10-2009 12:55
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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34896876)
Mashup of QT
Already been posted earlier in this thread.

Hugh 24-10-2009 13:29
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Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 34896879)
Already been posted earlier in this thread.
Thank you - post deleted.

Tezcatlipoca 24-10-2009 13:36
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Originally Posted by chamoan (Post 34896552)
At least with the BNP you know they would actually look after the English people first.
"English" people first? And what about those people residing in Wales, Scotland, & Northern Ireland? You do realise, don't you, that the United Kingdom is comprised of more than just England.

Besides, the BNP would not "look after the English people first", they would "look after the white people first", or, to be even more specific & accurate, they would "look after the able-bodied heterosexual white people first".

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 34896627)
Heh :D

I like the "Downfall" one ;)

SMG 24-10-2009 14:20
Re: [Update] BNP on Question Time this week
 
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Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 34896874)
I understand people's frustrations about being unable to speak out for fear of being called racist, but how that is justification for voting for a blatantly racist party is beyond me.

People who find themselves unable to voice their opinions, because of the fear of being branded "Racist" will use the ballot box instead. The main parties have consistently failed to address the problem. Hence the increase in BNP votes.


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