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eddie00001 31-05-2007 15:33

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
I think that one of the reasons that its still in the media is that they are an affluent, articulate couple, who proably have someone behind the scenes advising them on how to use the media. I can't imagine many people think 'I must go see the Pope' if their child was abducted.

I also think, had this been a working class couple, low income etc, this would have been out of the media long ago, and they would also have been heavily criticised for leaving the children alone. As OB says, "Anyone heard about a 12 year old girl that's been missing from Winchester, Hants for the past 4 weeks now? No? Thought not...."

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-05-2007 15:48

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by orangebird (Post 34318080)
Anyone heard about a 12 year old girl that's been missing from Winchester, Hants for the past 4 weeks now? No? Thought not....

And that's how people I know are summing up the Maddie case in a nutshell.

The thing is there are people who reckon that if you are critical of the parents or the way they are going about looking for Maddie, or the way the media is maintaining the attention, then in some way you are guilty of not caring for Maddie or not wanting her found.

I'd love Maddie to be found (and ye I have been critical of the parents) but to be honest, everytime i see about something about them in the paper now, I just turn the page over, I can't be bothered to read it.

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Isn't it an assumption that she's been abducted? Plus abduction carries more weight than missing. That is the line of enquiry being followed. It's feasible (though might not be the case) that her parents arranged for someone to take her away?

Im not saying this has happened, but we are not 100% certain she's been abducted.

Weren't the girls that Huntley killed reported to be missing? not abducted or murdered? Until they were found that is?

Mick 31-05-2007 15:58

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34318102)

It's feasible (though might not be the case) that her parents arranged for someone to take her away?

In what way is it feasible? What evidence do you have that you can back up your claim that it is feasible?

TheDaddy 31-05-2007 16:00

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34318121)
In what way is it feasible? What evidence do you have that you can back up your claim that it is feasible?

He doesn't need evidence to say it's feasible, however unlikely the scenario

Ramrod 31-05-2007 16:06

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by smicer07 (Post 34318081)
It's important but I think people are annoyed with the amount of attention it's getting, when there's millions of other missing kids that get no publicity whatsoever.

If I was in that situation then I would obviously be upset and concerned about all the other missing children but my main concern would be about finding my child. I would do all I could.....and that is what Maddies parents are doing.
I don't think that we can or should begrudge them their efforts to keep the abduction and search for their child in the forefront of the news.

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-05-2007 16:06

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34318123)
He doesn't need evidence to say it's feasible, however unlikely the scenario

Exactly.....

Is there any evidence that she's been abducted? Not really...... The parents blatant disregard for their childrens' safety and wellbeing by dining in a restuarant 100 yards away, while leaving their apartment unlocked, ensured that theres no evidence whatsoever (no fingerprints, no forced entry, no struggle)

Its being reported as abductin because its a feasible and probable (although not conclusive outcome). Also abduction pulls on more heart strings than missing, sells more papers, etc etc

peanut 31-05-2007 16:07

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 34318128)
If I was in that situation then I would obviously be upset and concerned about all the other missing children but my main concern would be about finding my child. I would do all I could.....and that is what Maddies parents are doing.
I don't think that we can or should begrudge them their efforts to keep the abduction and search for their child in the forefront of the news.

Depends if you are a 'viable' candidate for the media that is.

Mick 31-05-2007 16:09

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 34318123)
He doesn't need evidence to say it's feasible, however unlikely the scenario

Fair point.

Okay - I'll word it different.

Mo - How is it feasible?

Saaf_laandon_mo 31-05-2007 16:17

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34318132)
Fair point.

Okay - I'll word it different.

Mo - How is it feasible?

Are you telling me the only possibility is abduction?

She could have been abducted or ran off somewhere, both feasible in my opinion. her parents could have arranged for someone to take her, again feasible.

Its feasible she went sleep walking and walked into the sea, swept away by the waves. I am keeping an open mind on this until an abducter is arrested.
As far as Im concerned abduction is not the only possibility in Maddie's case.

Ramrod 31-05-2007 16:29

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by peanutkp (Post 34318131)
Depends if you are a 'viable' candidate for the media that is.

You still can't begrudge them for trying....
Perhaps people should be getting angry at a media that ignores less 'attractive' parents who have lost a child rather than berating the parents who have actually managed to keep the medias attention on their plight...

joglynne 31-05-2007 17:56

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
If it was my child I can't imagine anything that I would not do to make sure that the search for my child carried on in as a high profile as possible.

Would you stop the search because 'other' people were getting bored of reading about your child being missing.?

Would you say "oh it's all right, don't bother publicising my child being missing any more I'll take a low profile from now on because there are other children who have gone missing and they are more important than my child"?

I truly believe that no matter what these parents are guilty of they have every right to keep the search for their child as high profile as they possible can for as long as they can. If other missing children are not receiving as much publicity then it is the media's fault not Maddies parents.

peanut 31-05-2007 18:29

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by joglynne (Post 34318224)
If it was my child I can't imagine anything that I would not do to make sure that the search for my child carried on in as a high profile as possible.

Would you stop the search because 'other' people were getting bored of reading about your child being missing.?

Would you say "oh it's all right, don't bother publicising my child being missing any more I'll take a low profile from now on because there are other children who have gone missing and they are more important than my child"?

I truly believe that no matter what these parents are guilty of they have every right to keep the search for their child as high profile as they possible can for as long as they can. If other missing children are not receiving as much publicity then it is the media's fault not Maddies parents.

You're quite right too. But it doesn't stop people from getting annoyed by their constant media attention, next they'll be opening supermarkets in her plight. (I know that's extreme and it won't happen but it's not far from the way people actually think).

Of course if it was my child, oh that's so easy to say isn't it, do this couple deserve their child to be abducted because of their own neglect? No, of course not. But just because people don't want to get soaked up in it all doesn't mean they are heartless either. If it was your child, maybe you wouldn't have the same attention as this couple, maybe you just don't fit the 'model' parent, maybe your girl ain't as pretty, maybe you neglect your kids and you might get vilified for it instead of. Who knows, a lot of what ifs.

All I've said was they chose to take the media up to extremes, of course there are people that will take comfort in it, but there's only so much people can take before they lose interest.

I for one do hope she's safe and returns, maybe I should say returns then her parents arrested for neglect. But I am also allowed not to want to follow the media. I hope she's safe, found, and well, that's all I can say and all that there is. Praying, lighting a candle, seeing Mr Beckham, crying ain't going to help matters and it's certainly not on top of my priority list. I don't care enough to let it upset me. What's one girl out of X amount who have / has it far worse.

etccarmageddon 31-05-2007 18:31

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by gazzae
I was surprised they didn't take their other kids with them. You would have thought after something like this you wouldn't have wanted to let them out of their sight.

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Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34317914)
Apparently they are being looked after by grandparents... But I know what you mean. Something is really unsettling about all of this... Everything from the start. I can't put my finger on it.

yes, exactly what I've been thinking.

surely you wouldnt let any of your remaining kids out of your sight again for a long time if one had been abducted like you said they had.

handyman 31-05-2007 18:45

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo (Post 34318129)
Exactly.....

Is there any evidence that she's been abducted? Not really...... The parents blatant disregard for their childrens' safety and wellbeing by dining in a restuarant 100 yards away, while leaving their apartment unlocked, ensured that theres no evidence whatsoever (no fingerprints, no forced entry, no struggle)

Its being reported as abductin because its a feasible and probable (although not conclusive outcome). Also abduction pulls on more heart strings than missing, sells more papers, etc etc

Anythings feasible as we don't know what happened, no one including the police knew that Huntley had a hand in the Soham case untill further investigation.

Ponder this.. Perhaps a local noticed that the parents were dining out and leaving the kids alone at the hotel and decided to swipe one for a day to teach them a lesson. Of course it all blew into a massive media event and perhaps they are now can't just walk back and pop the kid back. I mean anythings possible at the moment.

socket 31-05-2007 18:47

Re: Toddler 'abducted' during holiday
 
i'm very new to this forum but if i believe if i was a member of this family reading some of the comments in this topic i would be telling some of you lot to go to hell.


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