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pip08456 19-12-2017 22:45
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
This should keep Mick happy.:D

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...-at-record-low

1andrew1 19-12-2017 23:21
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35929566)
lol. The Clintons are a spent force so I'm not sure why anyone should even bother to give an approval rating to either of them!

denphone 20-12-2017 05:00
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35929566)
Indeed but it still does not make him Donald much cop either...

Hugh 20-12-2017 08:48
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35929566)
But is it Fake News?
Quote:
Clinton's unpopularity rivals Trump's, whose favorability rating remains around 40 percent, a record low for presidents at the end of their first year.
Meanwhile, in Virginia, where the Democrats recently won the Governership, the Democrats have won the 16th seat to tie with the Republicans in the House of Delegates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.827b9c2c86a9
Quote:
NEWPORT NEWS — The balance of power in Virginia’s legislature turned on a single vote in a recount Tuesday that flipped a seat in the House of Delegates from Republican to Democratic, leaving control of the lower chamber evenly split.

The outcome, which reverberated across Virginia, ends 17 years of GOP control of the House and forces Republicans into a rare episode of power sharing with Democrats that will refashion the political landscape in Richmond.

It was the culmination of last month’s Democratic wave that had diminished Republican power in purple Virginia.

Democrat Shelly Simonds emerged from the recount as the apparent winner in the 94th House District, seizing the seat from Republican David Yancey. A three-judge panel still must certify the results, an event scheduled for Wednesday.
And the Tax Bill passes the Senate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42421821

Mick 20-12-2017 10:55
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35929575)
Indeed but it still does not make him Donald much cop either...
But that’s just your opinion. Trump is practically doing, enacting, and fulfilling his campaign promises.

All the crap that’s been thrown at him this year and during the latter part of the election, he just shrugs it off.

This Russian collusion nonsense, is a pile of horse crap, it’s now looking very likely the corrupt Democrats, Crooked Hillary and her campaign are the real collusion gang, paying millions of pounds on a Fake Russian Dossier and the FBI at the time and Justice Department are looking very suspect with some indication that there was an insidious plot to remove the Presidency from Trump if he still won, this is likely the “Insurance policy” a top FBI agent was on about in a text message to his mistress, this is the same agent, Peter Strzok, who had his dirty hands in Crooked Hillary’s Investigation, changed key wording to exonerate her, he was brought in to Special Counsels Robert Meullers team and he even questioned Flynn, eventually being thrown off team when those damning text messages were found.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35929577)
But is it Fake News?

Meanwhile, in Virginia, where the Democrats recently won the Governership, the Democrats have won the 16th seat to tie with the Republicans in the House of Delegates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.827b9c2c86a9

And the Tax Bill passes the Senate.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42421821
That Virginia result is very suspicious, they keep having a recount until the vote goes the 1 vote needed to get over the line. How convenient. ;)

denphone 20-12-2017 11:00
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929587)
But that’s just your opinion. Trump is practically doing, enacting, and fulfilling his campaign promises.
Indeed it is as is yours Mick and everybody else's as democracy grants us that great freedom even though people might disagree with others some of the time..:)

Damien 20-12-2017 11:02
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Amazing how well Trump is doing when you consider everyone against him is up to some sort of nefarious scheme! The Democrats are rigging the votes that go against Republicans, the media are creating fake news about him, the FBI are having political motivated investigations into alleged (fake) crimes, the Judges are a bunch of liberals trying to make him fail, the Special Counsel is creating trumped-up charges against his subordinates and Trump's own Attorney General appointed won't shut it down because he (and his deputy) are no good.

Mick 20-12-2017 11:15
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35929591)
Amazing how well Trump is doing when you consider everyone against him is up to some sort of nefarious scheme! The Democrats are rigging the votes that go against Republicans, the media are creating fake news about him, the FBI are having political motivated investigations into alleged (fake) crimes, the Judges are a bunch of liberals trying to make him fail, the Special Counsel is creating trumped-up charges against his subordinates and Trump's own Attorney General appointed won't shut it down because he (and his deputy) are no good.
Can you explain what this ‘insurance policy’ is?

Trump’s lawyers don’t want it shut down they want it to reach it’s conclusion and finally conclude, there was no collusion.

Damien 20-12-2017 11:31
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929595)
Can you explain what this ‘insurance policy’ is?
I don't know, ask the FBI agent. I don't think he was speaking on behalf of the entire FBI when he texted his mistress though.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929595)
Trump’s lawyers don’t want it shut down they want it to reach it’s conclusion and finally conclude, there was no collusion.
We'll see.

passingbat 20-12-2017 11:31
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929587)
But that’s just your opinion. Trump is practically doing, enacting, and fulfilling his campaign promises.

All the crap that’s been thrown at him this year and during the latter part of the election, he just shrugs it off.

This Russian collusion nonsense, is a pile of horse crap, it’s now looking very likely the corrupt Democrats, Crooked Hillary and her campaign are the real collusion gang, paying millions of pounds on a Fake Russian Dossier and the FBI at the time and Justice Department are looking very suspect with some indication that there was an insidious plot to remove the Presidency from Trump if he still won, this is likely the “Insurance policy” a top FBI agent was on about in a text message to his mistress, this is the same agent, Peter Strzok, who had his dirty hands in Crooked Hillary’s Investigation, changed key wording to exonerate her, he was brought in to Special Counsels Robert Meullers team and he even questioned Flynn, eventually being thrown off team when those damning text messages were found.
Unemployment is down, Growth is up, Stock market is up, buissnes confidenence is the highest ever, brought jobs back to America and illegal border crossings are way down.

In just a year, he has achieved all that, plus making Jerusalem the Capital of Israel and mooving the US Embassy there.

Hugh 20-12-2017 13:18
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929587)
But that’s just your opinion. Trump is practically doing, enacting, and fulfilling his campaign promises.

All the crap that’s been thrown at him this year and during the latter part of the election, he just shrugs it off.

This Russian collusion nonsense, is a pile of horse crap, it’s now looking very likely the corrupt Democrats, Crooked Hillary and her campaign are the real collusion gang, paying millions of pounds on a Fake Russian Dossier and the FBI at the time and Justice Department are looking very suspect with some indication that there was an insidious plot to remove the Presidency from Trump if he still won, this is likely the “Insurance policy” a top FBI agent was on about in a text message to his mistress, this is the same agent, Peter Strzok, who had his dirty hands in Crooked Hillary’s Investigation, changed key wording to exonerate her, he was brought in to Special Counsels Robert Meullers team and he even questioned Flynn, eventually being thrown off team when those damning text messages were found.

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That Virginia result is very suspicious, they keep having a recount until the vote goes the 1 vote needed to get over the line. How convenient. ;)
Well, the local Republicans must be involved in this ‘convenient’ action....
Quote:
Teams of recount officials sat at four tables in the center of the room with lawyers, the news media and other onlookers kept along two walls. Each table featured two paid election officials — one selected by each party — and two volunteer observers, also one for each party.


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Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35929600)
Unemployment is down, Growth is up, Stock market is up, buissnes confidenence is the highest ever, brought jobs back to America and illegal border crossings are way down.

In just a year, he has achieved all that, plus making Jerusalem the Capital of Israel and mooving the US Embassy there.
Well, it is needed for the evangelical dispensational pre-millennialism End Times, isn’t it?

Mick 20-12-2017 13:22
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
It's not really relevant in the grand scheme of things, it's local State stuff.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35929615)

Well, it is needed for the evangelical dispensational pre-millennialism End Times, isn’t it?
No, it's to do with a law passed by congress in 1995 and failed to be enacted by all prior Presidents before Trump (Despite them all campaigning on doing so).

Hugh 20-12-2017 13:31
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929618)
It's not really relevant in the grand scheme of things, it's local State stuff.

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No, it's to do with a law passed by congress in 1995 and failed to be enacted by all prior Presidents before Trump (Despite them all campaigning on doing so).
Well, considering there are 11 Virginia seats in the US House 2018 Elections up for grabs, the local State stuff might become relevant...

And actually, yes - it's both...

Damien 20-12-2017 15:31
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35929600)
Unemployment is down, Growth is up, Stock market is up, buissnes confidenence is the highest ever, brought jobs back to America and illegal border crossings are way down.
The Stock Market did really well last year too. Believe me, we are in a bubble right now. And the only thing that looks good is the stock market. But if you raise interest rates even a little bit that is going to come crashing down.

passingbat 20-12-2017 16:11
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35929615)


Well, it is needed for the evangelical dispensational pre-millennialism End Times, isn’t it?

It is possible that the declaration, along with future events, could be a catalyst for forthcoming end time prophetic events, such as the Gog Magog war (generally believed to be Russia and Iran attacking Israel). They are attacking Israel for spoils, and at that time, Israel is living in safety with no borders or walls


Some Biblical Scholars believe that Psalm 83 is a prophecy which will happen before the Gog Magog war. Israel is attacked by all it's bordering nations. There reason for attack is Hatred of Israel. Israel will win. That lays the preconditions (Israel living in saety with no walls) for the Gog Magog war.


Then we have Armageddon, The Jewish people are so persecuted. But with help of the 144000 Jesus believing Jewish people God have reserved for that time, the Jewish people call on the name of Jesus (a prerequsit for Jesus returning) Jesus comes back, His enemy's are defeated and then starts the Millenim reign under Jesus Christ

Damien 20-12-2017 19:55
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35929577)
Meanwhile, in Virginia, where the Democrats recently won the Governership, the Democrats have won the 16th seat to tie with the Republicans in the House of Delegates.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.827b9c2c86a9
This case is weird. They found an old ballot which was rejected because it was marked twice but appealed it to the judge that the voters intent was clearly for their guy and they agreed.

Crazy how close it can get.

Mick 20-12-2017 21:00
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The Tax Cut Bill has passed 2nd vote in the House of Representatives after Senate sent it back with a couple of adjustments being required and is due to signed by President Trump in to law this evening.

First Major legislative victory for Trump and as I type this...

...AT&T announces it will "pay a special $1,000 bonus to more than 200,000 AT&T U.S. employees" due to tax reform passage and will also increase US capital spending by $1 billion.

Mr K 20-12-2017 21:10
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929662)
The Tax Cut Bill has passed 2nd vote in the House of Representatives after Senate sent it back with a couple of adjustments being required and is due to signed by President Trump in to law this evening.

First Major legislative victory for Trump and as I type this...

...AT&T announces it will "pay a special $1,000 bonus to more than 200,000 AT&T U.S. employees" due to tax reform passage and will also increase US capital spending by $1 billion.
But how does this affect you Mick? Are you a US citizen? You sound quite excited ! ;)

1andrew1 20-12-2017 21:17
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929662)
The Tax Cut Bill has passed 2nd vote in the House of Representatives after Senate sent it back with a couple of adjustments being required and is due to signed by President Trump in to law this evening.

First Major legislative victory for Trump and as I type this...

...AT&T announces it will "pay a special $1,000 bonus to more than 200,000 AT&T U.S. employees" due to tax reform passage and will also increase US capital spending by $1 billion.
Then, as if by magic, AT&T's bid to buy Time Warner (owners of HBO, CNN and Warner Bros) will doubtless be approved when no one could understand why it had been held blocked.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/b...er-merger.html

Mick 20-12-2017 21:36
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35929672)
Then, as if by magic, AT&T's bid to buy Time Warner (owners of HBO, CNN and Warner Bros) will doubtless be approved when no one could understand why it had been held blocked.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/20/b...er-merger.html
It would not bother me whatsoever.

May be if someone buys it out they can change the format of the Very Fake News Network aka (Clinton News Network) CNN.

Damien 20-12-2017 21:37
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I think it's more a planned rally around the President from these companies as part of a thanks/deal for getting the tax cuts passed. It's not just AT&T doing this right now, a number of companies have issued press releases with some degree of pro-investment announcement citing the tax cut. There are clearly been some coordination to have a press blitz timed with the passing of the bill.

I am not sure there will be much else to it than that. It's pretty clear what the quid-pro-quo is, you have us tax cuts and we'll give you good news.

I would worry it makes it easier for them to get net neutrality stuck down but Trump would never have vetoed that bill anyway, it was a lost battle the moment Obama's name was attached to it.

Mr K 20-12-2017 21:39
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929680)
It would not bother me whatsoever.

May be if someone buys it out they can change the format of the Very Fake News Network aka (Clinton News Network) CNN.
So which news channel do you believe Mick (and why) ?

John Craven's Newsround used to be the best imho.

Mick 20-12-2017 21:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35929684)
So which news channel do you believe Mick (and why) ? John Craven's Newsround used to be the best imho.
I've told you previously, I don't have any preference, I read various sources instead of believing and or relying on just one.

But yet again, Very Fake News CNN, was forced to correct another story just the other week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/b...-trump-jr.html

Mr K 20-12-2017 21:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929687)
I've told you previously, I don't have any preference, I read various sources instead of believing and or relying on just one.

But yet again, Very Fake News CNN, was forced to correct another story just the other week.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/08/b...-trump-jr.html
Not as if Fox news hasn't been in trouble for totally fabricating crap but I know you'd never follow that ! Stick to the Express if I were you ;)

Mick 20-12-2017 22:24
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35929690)
Not as if Fox news hasn't been in trouble for totally fabricating crap but I know you'd never follow that ! Stick to the Express if I were you ;)
Cannot stick to something I don't read in the first place. ;)

Just in: Wells Fargo hikes its hourly pay rate to $15 & will aim for $400M in philanthropic donations next year due to the newly-passed GOP tax bill.

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Boeing CEO Muilenburg Applauds Tax Law, Announces $300 Million in Employee-Related and Charitable Investments to Spur Innovation and Growth.

Mr K 20-12-2017 22:37
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Breaking: USA Bankrupt ! Donald's got a bit tucked away though, so he's ok...

Mick 20-12-2017 22:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35929697)
Breaking: USA Bankrupt !
You are Fake News Mr K. :D

I had to just laugh at this...

Nut-job Rosie O'Donnell has committed a Federal Crime trying to Bribe two GOP Senators to vote no in the tax reform bill, she offered them each, $2 Million, to kill the bill. But in doing so has broke the law, she has committed a serious crime in trying to Bribe a sitting Senator.

The tweet is still up...

https://twitter.com/Rosie/status/943321322200944641

1andrew1 20-12-2017 22:55
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35929690)
Not as if Fox news hasn't been in trouble for totally fabricating crap but I know you'd never follow that ! Stick to the Express if I were you ;)
Only last week, Fox News was caught out again. Its misinformation caught one forum poster out, but fortunately Hugh was on hand to rescue the day.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35928689)
Re the "forgery", Fox News withdrew that statement...
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36...rgery-headline


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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929698)
You are Fake News Mr K. :D

I had to just laugh at this...

Nut-job Rosie O'Donnell has committed a Federal Crime trying to Bribe two GOP Senators to vote no in the tax reform bill, she offered them each, $2 Million, to kill the bill. But in doing so has broke the law, she has committed a serious crime in trying to Bribe a sitting Senator.

The tweet is still up...

https://twitter.com/Rosie/status/943321322200944641
She's clearly joking. But this idiot admitted to voting twice on social media and was rightly prosecuted for the offence! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8116671.html

Mick 20-12-2017 22:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35929699)
Only last week, Fox News was caught out again. Its misinformation caught one forum poster out, but fortunately Hugh was on hand to rescue the day.


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She's clearly joking. But this idiot admitted to voting twice on social media and was rightly prosecuted for the offence! http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a8116671.html
She was not joking.

TheDaddy 21-12-2017 04:45
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929695)
Cannot stick to something I don't read in the first place. ;)

Just in: Wells Fargo hikes its hourly pay rate to $15 & will aim for $400M in philanthropic donations next year due to the newly-passed GOP tax bill.

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Boeing CEO Muilenburg Applauds Tax Law, Announces $300 Million in Employee-Related and Charitable Investments to Spur Innovation and Growth.
The donald hates her as well, I remember he encouraged her girl friend to leave her saying it would be a smart decision amongst other tweets

pip08456 21-12-2017 15:39
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
PB should enjoy this.:D

SamBee

Mick 22-12-2017 10:01
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
U.S Attorney General, Jeff Sessions orders Prosecutors to look again at the Uranium One deal.

Quote:

On the orders of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Justice Department prosecutors have begun asking FBI agents to explain the evidence they found in a now dormant criminal investigation into a controversial uranium deal that critics have linked to Bill and Hillary Clinton, multiple law enforcement officials told NBC News.

The interviews with FBI agents are part of the Justice Department's effort to fulfill a promise an assistant attorney general made to Congress last month to examine whether a special counsel was warranted to look into what has become known as the Uranium One deal, a senior Justice Department official said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...e-deal-n831436

pip08456 22-12-2017 10:27
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35929788)
U.S Attorney General, Jeff Sessions orders Prosecutors to look again at the Uranium One deal.



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...e-deal-n831436
According to Fox News there's nothing to investigate.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/943862882059669509

Damien 22-12-2017 10:36
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35929790)
According to Fox News there's nothing to investigate.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/943862882059669509
Not necessarily, although the chances of it reaching Clinton are unlikely given she appears to have had little to do with the decision to authorise the deal. Either way let the investigation happen to kill (or prove) the accusations if there is evidence that warrants it.

passingbat 22-12-2017 10:53
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35929741)
PB should enjoy this.:D

SamBee

Quite frankly, it's, 'Water off a duck's back.' to me. Anyone who didn't expect a backlash, just doesn't fully understand the spiritual aspect of what is going on.


I would expect nothing less from less from a couple of globalist backed news outlets.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35929790)
According to Fox News there's nothing to investigate.

https://twitter.com/funder/status/943862882059669509

Fox news, Hannity in particular, along with independent news reporters, Sara Carter and Jon Solomn have been talking about this for months.

Damien 02-01-2018 14:22
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Trump claiming credit for the fact there were no deaths from airliners in 2017: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...95478428102657

Hugh 02-01-2018 14:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930718)
Trump claiming credit for the fact there were no deaths from airliners in 2017: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...95478428102657
He said
Quote:
Since taking office I have been very strict on Commercial Aviation. Good news - it was just reported that there were Zero deaths in 2017, the best and safest year on record!
From a Forbes article in late December 2016.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielr.../#26f391fa428a
Quote:
In A Dangerous World, U.S. Commercial Aviation Is On A Remarkable Safety Streak

Nobody died in a crash of a United States-certificated scheduled airline operating anywhere in the world in 2016.

This probably should no longer qualify as “news.”

That’s because it is the seventh straight year that nobody died in a crash on a United States-certificated scheduled airline operating anywhere in the world.

Mick 02-01-2018 14:37
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It's 2018, we're approaching Trump's 2nd year in office. His critics said he would not last three months, high level folks within the FBI hope their plan would see to that. (This far exceeds the Watergate scandal) and already people finding fault with everything and anything, he says still.

Damien 02-01-2018 14:46
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930724)
It's 2018, we're approaching Trump's 2nd year in office. His critics said he would not last three months, high level folks within the FBI hope their plan would see to that. (This far exceeds the Watergate scandal) and already people finding fault with everything and anything, he says still.
Obama was in office for 8 years and people still find fault with what he says. Which is fair enough, surviving a year doesn't make him right.

Trump is wrong to in anyway claim credit for the lack of civil aviation deaths. This is a worldwide statistic and plane safety doesn't transform overnight or in a year. It's not really a big deal, more mocking him really.

Mick 02-01-2018 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930726)
Obama was in office for 8 years and people still find fault with what he says. Which is fair enough, surviving a year doesn't make him right.

Trump is wrong to in anyway claim credit for the lack of civil aviation deaths. This is a worldwide statistic and plane safety doesn't transform overnight or in a year. It's not really a big deal, more mocking him really.
I did not say either way if he was right or wrong, I just don't care.

Each President has their own failings, the current one having narcissistic traits (So his critics say).

But the issues coming out about the former president and his subordinates are growing and growing.

As you're referring to President Obama, it is not just what Obama said but did or did not do. Like failing to act when that red line of his was crossed when Assad conducted another Gas attack on his own citizens, women and children.

Failing to act when Russia Annexed Crimea.

Still issues surrounding the Uranium One deal which has resulted in the DOJ conducting a further investigation surrounding that arrangement based off new information that has come to light.

Accusations the Obama Administration, more specifically the DOJ, under Obama's watch, helped clear Hillary Clinton in the FBI Criminal Investigation in to her alleged email crimes. Drafts statements showing changes to key wordings that meant exoneration in the final statement and that the key person who changed that was Peter Strzok, who talked about an insurance policy, in the event Trump got elected.

You got the former Director of the FBI, James Comey, admitting to leaking to the liberal press, NYT, (Leaking is a federal crime). He is now spending his days throwing out cryptic quotes.

And now just last week new information that Classified emails belonging to Hillary Clinton when she was Secretary of State, being found on a Laptop belonging to Antony Weiner, Husband of Huma Abedin.

Emily Miller, who was a State Dept Aide, with top level clearance tweeted the following:

Quote:
As a former State Dept aide with top security clearance, I can't believe our national secrets on Saudi Arabia, Syria, Egypt, et al were on Huma Abedin's pervert husband's unsecured computer, but no one was prosecuted.
https://twitter.com/EmilyMiller/stat...26012390141959

A soldier was sent to prison for taking a few pictures of a submarine's engine room which was classed as top secret & sending it to his kids!

Damien 02-01-2018 16:42
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930732)
As you're referring to President Obama, it is not just what Obama said but did or did not do. Like failing to act when that red line of his was crossed when Assad conducted another Gas attack on his own citizens, women and children.

Failing to act when Russia Annexed Crimea.
He put quite strong sanctions on Russia which Trump wants to remove. Considering Clinton's hawkish tone on Russia was criticised by you on here I am not sure this is a genuine complaint you have. That said we've disagreed on here on how to approach Russia so I am not going to complain if you agree we need to take stronger action than either Obama or Trump did.


Quote:
Emily Miller, who was a State Dept Aide, with top level clearance tweeted the following:
Emily Miller is a conservative commentator who was a press secretary. I would be surprised if she had top level clearance. But either way I am not sure how it's relevant. There are different levels of classified as I understand it so if it meets the standards of illegality then of course I agree they should be investigated.

I don't really have any issue with investigating alleged crimes if there is cause to do so.

Stephen 02-01-2018 17:36
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Trump is a fool for yet again trying to take credit for something that was totally nothing to do with him.

1andrew1 02-01-2018 20:41
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35930738)
Trump is a fool for yet again trying to take credit for something that was totally nothing to do with him.
He knows it's wrong but he knows a proportion of his followers will lap it up without a context.
Sadly, due to the Republicans delaying the introduction of safety equipment, the same claim cannot be made for the US railways which is daft as that should be far safer than air.

Damien 03-01-2018 08:49
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Well I hope everyone has set some time aside for Trump's FAKE NEWS awards: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...59545767841792

Quote:
I will be announcing THE MOST DISHONEST & CORRUPT MEDIA AWARDS OF THE YEAR on Monday at 5:00 o’clock. Subjects will cover Dishonesty & Bad Reporting in various categories from the Fake News Media. Stay tuned!
It's not often the President of the United States takes the time to judge and announce an award ceremony so this is truly historic.

Mr Banana 03-01-2018 09:30
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930810)
Well I hope everyone has set some time aside for Trump's FAKE NEWS awards: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...59545767841792



It's not often the President of the United States takes the time to judge and announce an award ceremony so this is truly historic.
Wonder if he will include his personal twitter account in the awards, could point to plenty of Lies on there.

Hugh 03-01-2018 19:03
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Trump has harsh words for Bannon.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42560520
Quote:
Former White House aide Steve Bannon "lost his mind" after he lost his job at the White House, US President Donald Trump has said.

The president disavowed Mr Bannon after he was quoted in a new book describing a meeting between Mr Trump's son and a group of Russians as "treasonous".

The Russians had offered Donald Trump Jr damaging information on Hillary Clinton at the June 2016 meeting.

Mr Bannon's quote appears in a new book by journalist Michael Wolff.

"Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind," Mr Trump said in a statement on Wednesday.

"Steve was a staffer who worked for me after I had already won the nomination by defeating seventeen candidates, often described as the most talented field ever assembled in the Republican party," he continued.

"Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look.

Steve had very little to do with our historic victory, which was delivered by the forgotten men and women of this country."
Some more details in the NY Times.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/u...T.nav=top-news
Quote:
“Steve pretends to be at war with the media, which he calls the opposition party, yet he spent his time at the White House leaking false information to the media to make himself seem far more important than he was,” Mr. Trump added. “It is the only thing he does well. Steve was rarely in a one-on-one meeting with me and only pretends to have had influence to fool a few people with no access and no clue, whom he helped write phony books.”

Stephen 03-01-2018 20:12
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
"Now that he is on his own, Steve is learning that winning isn't as easy as I make it look.
Wow Trump, you really are full of yourself!!

he really needs to learn how to be diplomatic and have a bit of decency(Never going to happen)

Mr K 03-01-2018 20:18
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35930879)
Wow Trump, you really are full of yourself!!

he really needs to learn how to be diplomatic and have a bit of decency(Never going to happen)
I've tried but I can't feel sorry for either of them. They are equally full of venomous hateful 'fake' *****.

Mick 03-01-2018 21:24
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
BREAKING: Paul Manafort sues special counsel Robert Mueller saying he exceeded authority in Russia probe. (Source: Associated Press)

https://apnews.com/aaa0d483f94244e2a4eb6004847f7573

Hugh 03-01-2018 21:25
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930896)
BREAKING: Paul Manafort sues special counsel Robert Mueller saying he exceeded authority in Russia probe. (Source: Associated Press) No link as of yet...
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/u...t-mueller.html

Unusual approach - saying a Law Officer who, whilst investigating allegations of other crimes, comes across prosecutable crimes not related to the initial investigation, should ignore those crimes?

That’s like saying if some Police Officers were investigating a robbery, and found evidence of drug smuggling or money laundering during their investigations, should just let those indictable offences go by...

1andrew1 03-01-2018 21:33
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
"Asks a Judge to Narrow the Russia Investigation"
This has guilty written all over it or am I being uncharitable?

Mick 03-01-2018 21:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35930899)
"Asks a Judge to Narrow the Russia Investigation"
This has guilty written all over it or am I being uncharitable?
No I think you're being naive.

How can it have guilty all over it when no charges of any kind link back to the Russian probe in the U.S Election?

---------- Post added at 21:59 ---------- Previous post was at 21:50 ----------

Just this seen this summary of news so far....

Steve Bannon is, among other things, calling the president’s son “treasonous.”

President Trump says his former top adviser has “lost his mind."

Paul Manafort is suing Bob Mueller.

Bill and Hillary Clinton’s home in Chappaqua was on fire.

It’s only the third day of 2018.

Damien 03-01-2018 22:12
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
There is no issue with other crimes surfacing during investigations as far as I am aware. Anyone in America can sue someone, if it gets anywhere is a different matter.

---------- Post added at 22:12 ---------- Previous post was at 22:09 ----------

Anyway this book sounds interesting. Hopefully Bannon is out of camp Trump but you wonder if this is part of the show.

Mick 03-01-2018 22:23
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930906)
Anyway this book sounds interesting. Hopefully Bannon is out of camp Trump but you wonder if this is part of the show.
I am bit skeptical of this Bannon story, reading between the lines, those familiar with Michael Wolff, the author of this book, say he is a serial fabricator.

Whether true or not, it doesn't remove what Trump now thinks of him, (Bannon), given his statement on the book.

---------- Post added at 22:23 ---------- Previous post was at 22:17 ----------

Ouch... Don Jnr is on the Offense...

Quote:
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr 6 minutes ago

Steve had the honor of working in the White House & serving the country. Unfortunately, he squandered that privilege & turned that opportunity into a nightmare of backstabbing, harassing, leaking, lying & undermining the President. Steve is not a strategist, he is an opportunist

Damien 03-01-2018 22:30
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930908)
I am bit skeptical of this Bannon story, reading between the lines, those familiar with Michael Wolff, the author of this book, say he is a serial fabricator.
Who says that?

pip08456 03-01-2018 23:23
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930912)
Who says that?
Will this do for starters?

Quote:
A provocateur and media polemicist, Wolff has a penchant for stirring up an argument and pushing the facts as far as they’ll go, and sometimes further than they can tolerate, according to his critics. He has been accused of not just re-creating scenes in his books and columns, but of creating them wholesale.
Source

1andrew1 03-01-2018 23:24
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Tony Blair has denied he warned Donald Trump‘s aides British spies may have had them under surveillance during the 2016 election.
The former Prime Minister’s team called the claim “a complete fabrication” after it was published in a tell-all book by US author Michael Wolff...

The allegation was first reported by The Times. A Blair spokeswoman told The Independent: “The allegations printed in The Times are categorically absurd. They are a complete fabrication, have no basis in reality and are simply untrue.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8140791.html

Damien 03-01-2018 23:29
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35930916)
Will this do for starters?



Source
Mmm good article. You could hope (as is standard for reporters interviewing people) he kept tapes of his interviews. Bannon isn't denying it and the White House is reaction as if the Bannon stuff is true but it does seem a bit iffy. Especially this part:

Quote:
Even Wolff’s anecdote about Trump being unaware of who Boehner was last year seems a bit suspect. The reason? Trump had tweeted about Boehner multiple times since 2011. In September 2015, for example, Trump tweeted this: “Wacky @glennbeck who always seems to be crying (worse than Boehner) speaks badly of me only because I refuse to do his show — a real nut job!”

Mick 04-01-2018 02:01
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Well so far this book claims Tony Blair met with Kushner, Presidents son-in-law and told him the U.K. spied on Trump, a claim the office of the former Prime Minister has categorically denied tonight.

https://news.sky.com/story/tony-blai...n-him-11194845

Damien 04-01-2018 12:37
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Wolff does have tapes: https://www.axios.com/how-michael-wo...522360813.html

Mick 04-01-2018 12:49
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Still skeptical, I mean Bannon is hardly a reliable source himself, being associated with breitbart.

Hugh 04-01-2018 13:10
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930955)
Still skeptical, I mean Bannon is hardly a reliable source himself, being associated with breitbart.
Well, he was also part of the Trump Campaign and Adminstration for over a year, first as the Campaign CEO, then as the Trump Administration Chief Strategist, so someone must have thought he was reliable.

1andrew1 04-01-2018 13:15
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
The book will certainly makes Trump's fake news awards even more interesting!

Mick 04-01-2018 13:17
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35930958)
Well, he was also part of the Trump Campaign and Adminstration for over a year, first as the Campaign CEO, then as the Trump Administration Chief Strategist, so someone must have thought he was reliable.
Up to a point and then he was fired. Bannon was confronted on a radio show last night about the book. Bannon just replied, 'That he still considers the President a great man.' - This despite Trump throwing out a scathing public statement on Bannon.

Damien 04-01-2018 13:30
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35930955)
Still skeptical, I mean Bannon is hardly a reliable source himself, being associated with breitbart.
It's not so much any 'info' he claims to have but the fact he is lashing out at all that's interesting I think.

Mick 04-01-2018 14:07
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35930966)
It's not so much any 'info' he claims to have but the fact he is lashing out at all that's interesting I think.
Indeed.

In other news, it's been revealed, Comey leaked Classified Memos, marked either 'Top Secret', or 'Confidential', to his friend, Professor Richman.

Chuck Grassley, Chairman of the House of Judiciary, has sent a letter to Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein...

Quote:
WASHINGTON – Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley is today raising questions about when the memos memorializing interactions between former FBI Director James Comey and President Trump were classified and the chain of custody for the classified memos.

After a review of the seven memoranda created by former Director Comey, it is now clear that four are marked classified at various levels of sensitivity. Former Director Comey reportedly provided copies of four memos to Columbia Law School Professor Daniel Richman. If true, that would mean at least one disclosed memo contained information now-marked classified.

In his letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, Grassley asks about the chain of custody of the memos, when they were marked classified and by whom. Grassley also asks what steps the Justice Department has taken to determine if any classified information was provided to Professor Richman and whether such a disclosure violated department rules or policy.

In order for the Committee to further assess this situation, please respond to the following in writing by no later than January 17, 2018:
  1. Has the Justice Department or FBI in fact determined that any of the memoranda Mr. Comey sent Professor Richman contained classified information? If so, what steps were taken to retrieve and safeguard the information?
  2. Which of the seven memoranda the FBI made available for the Committee’s review did Mr. Comey give to Professor Richman?
  3. When did Mr. Comey give Professor Richman the memoranda?
  4. At the time that Professor Richman received the memoranda, were any marked as classified?
  5. At the time that Professor Richman received the memoranda, did any contain classified information, regardless of markings?
  6. Please explain the method by which Mr. Comey transmitted the memoranda to Professor Richman. If the transmittal was electronic:
  7. Please provide the account information that Mr. Comey and Mr. Richman used.
  8. Please describe what steps the FBI has taken to recover all copies of any classified memoranda that might reside on computers, servers, or at other locations.
  9. Have you initiated an investigation into the matter of whether Mr. Comey improperly disclosed classified information by providing these memoranda to Professor Richman? If so, what is the status of the investigation? If not, why not?
  10. Has there been any review of whether the disclosure of the memoranda by Mr. Comey was otherwise improper, such as whether it violated his employment agreement or any Department rule or policy? If so, what is the status of the review? If not, why not?
  11. When did the FBI mark the four memoranda as classified, and who made the classification decision?
  12. As noted above, it has been reported that Professor Richman returned the memoranda to the FBI.[7] If so, on what date did this occur?
  13. Did anyone from the FBI or Special Counsel’s Office discuss with Professor Richman this Committee’s request for copies of the memos? If so, please provide all records related to any such communications.
  14. Does Professor Richman still have possession of any of the memoranda or copies?

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter. Please contact Patrick Davis of my Committee staff at (202) 224-5225 if you have any questions.

Sincerely,



Charles E. Grassley
Chairman
Committee on the Judiciary
https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news...memos#_ftnref2

Damien 04-01-2018 14:18
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
The 'now' marked classified needs to be clarified. Were they classified at the time he passed them on? (which reading the thing is question 4)

1andrew1 04-01-2018 19:38
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Will be interesting to see if Trump is successful in getting the book banned.
Quote:
A lawyer for President Donald Trump is seeking to halt the publication of an explosive new book that claims to have insider information on the Trump White House.
Attorney Charles J Harder instructed the book's publisher to “immediately cease and desist from any further publication, release or dissemination of the book," in a letter seen by the Washington Post. Mr Harder says he is pursuing possible libel charges against the book's author.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8141931.html

Damien 04-01-2018 20:02
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
He won't get the book banned....

1andrew1 04-01-2018 20:17
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931020)
He won't get the book banned....
The publishers must be quite confident too or they wouldn't have given the press review copies a week before publication.

Mick 04-01-2018 20:24
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
It should be banned, it's full of total BS. But it won't be and it's too late any way, advanced copies are out there.

But the claims being made in the book are absolute cobblers.

One of the debunked claims is that Tony Blair is suppose to have met with Kushner back in February 2017 and told him the UK has spied on Trump. This is a claim both Tony Blair has denied today and GCHQ in the past. The meeting was also to get Trump to give Tony Blair a Middle East diplomatic role. I think it is very far fetched that Blair would do this.

Another claim the book makes is that Trump goes to bed at 6.30pm in the evening to eat cheese burgers. I mean wtf, this is pure parody, this is made up BS to drive up sales.

Wolff claims he had unvetted access to the President and the West Wing, which Sarah Sanders has said tonight is total nonsense, access to the President is strictly limited and repeated requests, at least 14 requests were denied for Wolff to interview Trump.

Damien 04-01-2018 20:50
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931028)
It should be banned, it's full of total BS. But it won't be and it's too late any way, advanced copies are out there.
America has far weaker libel laws than we do. Very hard to ban books/newspapers in America. Even in the UK though this would be allowed. You're traditionally fine writing books about politicians because it looks bad for politicians to try and suppress it. Cameron never sued over the book about him that contained the pig story even though a lot of that was clearly dubious.

How would you even ban it? You can't ban something for not being true with the evidence being the President says it isn't.

Quote:
One of the debunked claims is that Tony Blair is suppose to have met with Kushner back in February 2017 and told him the UK has spied on Trump. This is a claim both Tony Blair has denied today and GCHQ in the past. The meeting was also to get Trump to give Tony Blair a Middle East diplomatic role. I think it is very far fetched that Blair would do this.
I agree but my understanding is that the book doesn't claim this but quotes someone else saying it/suggesting it (I would have to read the passage). Also for the bugging thing I think the story is saying Blair told Trump there were newspaper reports of it rather than passing off any inside knowledge he had.

Quote:
Another claim the book makes is that Trump goes to bed at 6.30pm in the evening to eat cheese burgers. I mean wtf, this is pure parody, this is made up BS to drive up sales.
Again. Is he claiming that first hand or reporting gossip? That makes a difference.

Quote:
Wolff claims he had unvetted access to the President and the West Wing, which Sarah Sanders has said tonight is total nonsense, access to the President is strictly limited and repeated requests, at least 14 requests were denied for Wolff to interview Trump.
It depends what 'unvetted access' is defined as. However it's clear he did have several interviews with the staff and a '5-7 minute' conversation with Trump himself: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...s-trump-322289

Hugh 04-01-2018 20:53
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
From the Politico link
Quote:
Sanders echoed the president’s response in downplaying the significance of Bannon’s role.

“And I think in the actions that Steve took, the president was clear that it didn’t have a lot of influence on him or the decision-making process throughout his time at the White House,” she said Wednesday.
Seems unusual that the President's Chief Strategist (which was a new role specially created for Bannon) didn't have a lot of influence on the President or his decisions - what was his job, then?

He was also designated by presidential memorandum as a regular attendee to the National Security Council's Principals Committee, a Cabinet-level senior interagency forum for considering national security issues - again, why, if he didn't have a lot of influence?

Damien 04-01-2018 20:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35931031)
From the Politico link Seems unusual that the President's Chief Strategist (which was a new role specially created for Bannon) didn't have a lot of influence on the President or his decisions - what was his job, then?
Hard to say. The White House released this video of him helping to inform foreign policy in the Oval Office though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZOF9q5fzfs

---------- Post added at 20:59 ---------- Previous post was at 20:55 ----------

By the way Trump trying to ban the book is going to do no harm at all to it's sales figures. I wouldn't be surprised if he is getting a sneak commission on it. ;)

Mr K 04-01-2018 21:04
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931028)
It should be banned, it's full of total BS. But it won't be and it's too late any way, advanced copies are out there.
It probably is full of BS Mick. But Trump is getting a dose of his own medicine from his own ex-spin Dr.

What go's around comes around.... Hard to feel sympathy.

Mick 04-01-2018 21:06
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Unvetted access to me means, repeated and unchecked access. I would suggest the Secret Service have strict protocols on who gets to meet the President, even in the White House, not to mention a journalist, of which Trump has issues with most of them any way.

The fact the book author has a historical nature to distort what people have said and misquote people.

He says he has tapes, let’s hear them. I find it interesting they are not out there as of yet, if they actually exist and this story on the book is 24 hours old now.

Damien 04-01-2018 21:21
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
The publisher has moved the release forward to tomorrow: https://twitter.com/MichaelWolffNYC/...23092357128194

No chance at all of it being banned now.

Mr K 04-01-2018 21:23
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931042)
The publisher has moved the release forward to tomorrow: https://twitter.com/MichaelWolffNYC/...23092357128194

No chance at all of it being banned now.
I've ordered it on Amazon, so i'd better not be disappointed ;)

Mick 04-01-2018 21:24
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
$20 on Amazon, I wouldn’t pay 50p for it and I will still get to know what’s in it by end of weekend.

Damien 04-01-2018 21:25
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931045)
$20 on Amazon, I wouldn’t pay 50p for it and I will still get to know what’s in it by end of weekend.
I walk into Waterstones and read the last page of novels. Suckers.

Mick 04-01-2018 21:31
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
BREAKING: U.S State Dept has Suspended “Security Assistance” to Pakistan worth more than $255 Million Dollars.

The above relates to Trumps tweet earlier in week about Pakistan’s lies and deceit about them hiding and being uncooperative regarding Terrorists entering the country.

pip08456 04-01-2018 21:36
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931045)
$20 on Amazon, I wouldn’t pay 50p for it and I will still get to know what’s in it by end of weekend.
Mr K will be quoting the heck out of it.:D

Mr K 04-01-2018 21:38
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931048)
BREAKING: U.S State Dept has Suspended “Security Assistance” to Pakistan worth more than $255 Million Dollars.

The above relates to Trumps tweet earlier in week about Pakistan’s lies and deceit about them hiding and being uncooperative regarding Terrorists entering the country.
Al-qaeda will be very happy about that. Another of Trumps new allies.

Mick 04-01-2018 22:00
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35931049)
Mr K will be quoting the heck out of it.:D
Didn’t think he was in to reading fiction but then he quotes from the guardian too.... :D

1andrew1 04-01-2018 22:53
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931048)
BREAKING: U.S State Dept has Suspended “Security Assistance” to Pakistan worth more than $255 Million Dollars.

The above relates to Trumps tweet earlier in week about Pakistan’s lies and deceit about them hiding and being uncooperative regarding Terrorists entering the country.
Hmm. Does Trump want to characteristically divert attention away from something else perhaps or has he turned over a new leaf?

Talking of turning over a new leaf, the book's publication has now been brought forward to tomorrow.
https://www.ft.com/content/c1346e7c-...0-857e26d1aca4
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8142711.html

Hugh 04-01-2018 23:19
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/am...mpression=true
Quote:
(Reuters) - Any lawsuits by President Donald Trump against former chief strategist Steve Bannon or the author and publisher of a book depicting a chaotic White House and Trump as out of his depth would almost certainly fail and could lead to more damaging disclosures, legal experts said...

...Alan Dershowitz, an emeritus law professor at Harvard Law School, said a libel lawsuit by Trump would be a "terrible mistake" and "a nonstarter" that "no reasonable lawyer would recommend."

Dershowitz, who has often publicly defended the legality of the president's actions over the past year, said it is very difficult for public figures to prevail in libel suits. Trump would need to show Wolff and publisher Holt knew statements by Bannon and others were false or they acted with reckless disregard for whether or not they were true...

...In one letter to Bannon and another to both Wolff and Steve Rubin, President & Publisher, Henry Holt and Company, Harder also said Bannon violated non-disclosure and non-disparagement provisions of his employment agreement with the Trump 2016 election campaign by speaking with Wolff. He said Wolff and Holt could face claims of interfering with or inducing breach of that contract.

But legal experts said the employment agreement would not have applied to Bannon after he joined the White House staff. Because of transparency and free speech concerns, the government has far less power to limit non-classified speech by employees than private companies, said Bradley Moss, a Washington lawyer specializing in national security law.

Apart from facing long odds, a Trump libel lawsuit would also force the president to participate in an intrusive disclosure process.

Dershowitz said that defense lawyers would be able to subject Trump to "broad and far-ranging" depositions about "almost anything" and compel him to answer.

Moss said defense lawyers would also be entitled to interview White House officials and collect potentially damaging documents from them. "It would be one more distraction, one more thing people in the administration need to hire lawyers for."

Mick 05-01-2018 05:06
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35931069)
Hmm. Does Trump want to characteristically divert attention away from something else perhaps or has he turned over a new leaf?

Talking of turning over a new leaf, the book's publication has now been brought forward to tomorrow.
https://www.ft.com/content/c1346e7c-...0-857e26d1aca4
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8142711.html
You’re a bit slow, Damien pointed this out above...

denphone 05-01-2018 05:14
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931057)
Didn’t think he was in to reading fiction but then he quotes from the guardian too.... :D
But don't some quote from that great bible of untruths the Daily Fail.:D

Mick 05-01-2018 05:14
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
FBI re-open Investigation in to Clinton Foundation. Bit of coincidence that it was only yesterday there was a fire at one of the Clintons properties... burning evidence perhaps?

Hugh 05-01-2018 08:56
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931083)
FBI re-open Investigation in to Clinton Foundation. Bit of coincidence that it was only yesterday there was a fire at one of the Clintons properties... burning evidence perhaps?
Perhaps not - it was in the Secret Service facility...

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/03/us...ire/index.html
Quote:
A small fire broke out in a US Secret Service facility on the property of the home of Bill and Hillary Clinton in Chappaqua, New York, on Wednesday.

The building was not connected to the home of the former US President and former US Secretary of State

papa smurf 05-01-2018 09:23
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931083)
FBI re-open Investigation in to Clinton Foundation. Bit of coincidence that it was only yesterday there was a fire at one of the Clintons properties... burning evidence perhaps?
what else can you do if the shredders are working flat out .

Hugh 05-01-2018 09:32
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 35931095)
what else can you do if the shredders are working flat out .
I thought they had all been purchased / rented by the White House?

pip08456 05-01-2018 10:02
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
A thought provoking tweet.

Personally I found it hilarious.

https://twitter.com/larryelder/statu...96965857423360

Mick 05-01-2018 11:50
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 35931090)
Perhaps not - it was in the Secret Service facility...

http://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/03/us...ire/index.html
That still is adjoining/connected to their house, doesn’t put them in the clear, if evidence was being burned/destroyed. ;)

papa smurf 05-01-2018 11:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931111)
That still is adjoining/connected to their house, doesn’t put them in the clear, if evidence was being burned/destroyed. ;)
There's no smoke without incriminating evidence ;)

Mick 05-01-2018 11:59
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 35931101)
A thought provoking tweet.

Personally I found it hilarious.

https://twitter.com/larryelder/statu...96965857423360
Exactly. The book is a fraud. But let the left and libs waste their money, on pure fiction.

Hugh 05-01-2018 12:32
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931111)
That still is adjoining/connected to their house, doesn’t put them in the clear, if evidence was being burned/destroyed. ;)
So the Clintons kept their incriminating evidence in the Secret Service facility - seems credible...

The Secret Service facility is not connected to the Clinton’s home - I suppose they could have had a underground tunnel connecting it to their Secret Base in a volcano.

http://poundridge.dailyvoice.com/wea...rrives/730242/

1andrew1 05-01-2018 13:02
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 35931115)
Exactly. The book is a fraud. But let the left and libs waste their money, on pure fiction.
I think Trump should have ignored the book. He's given it a lot more publicity which is what the publishers probably intended. He's fallen into their trap hook line and sinker!

Damien 05-01-2018 13:23
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
Or he has a sneaky little cut of the sales :D

1andrew1 05-01-2018 13:28
Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35931124)
Or he has a sneaky little cut of the sales :D
I guess that's marginally more likely than the Clintons outsourcing storage of their incriminating evidence to the secret service! :D


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