Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918749)

GOLD HD has launched on SKY channel 110, have vm had it too?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918752)

As I posted earlier, I think that it will initially be a Sky exclusive channel.

Be interesting to see how this development affects any future UKTV channels going FTA.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918749)

GOLD HD has launched on SKY channel 110, have vm had it too?

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918765)

No, but I think we got the better arrangement by keeping Eden HD, which I believe Sky no longer have with this change. I assume that has actually transpired as predicted?

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918752)

As I posted earlier, I think that it will initially be a Sky exclusive channel.

Be interesting to see how this development affects any future UKTV channels going FTA.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35918769)

As discussed previously, GOLD going HD on Sky has nothing to do with the possibility of any UKTV channels going FTA.

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35918774)

Are Virgin/LG or Malone part owners of UKTV? If they are you would think we would get Gold HD to without an exclusive period for Sky.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918765)

No, but I think we got the better arrangement by keeping Eden HD

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918252)

Analysis of the NIT data shows that Sky Ocean Rescue HD is testing on 5 internal VM networks normally associated with such tests.

Analysis of the SDT data shows that Sky Ocean Rescue HD is flagged in the Documentary section of the EPG on channel 244 with an EPG name of "Sky Ocean". Pack flags hadn't been added.

Originally Posted by dodgem22 (Post 35918774)

Are Virgin/LG or Malone part owners of UKTV? If they are you would think we would get Gold HD to without an exclusive period for Sky.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918780)

A516Digital has reveal that the Sky Ocean Rescue HD ‘pop-up’ channel will launch Wednesday October 4th until Sunday 9th October 2017.

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918820)

Sky issued a press release today:

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...POP-UP-CHANNEL

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918820)

Sky issued a press release today:

https://www.skygroup.sky/corporate/m...POP-UP-CHANNEL

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918843)

No mention of it being broadcast as a pop up channel on Virgin Media, I see.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918843)

No mention of it being broadcast as a pop up channel on Virgin Media, I see.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918765)

No, but I think we got the better arrangement by keeping Eden HD, which I believe Sky no longer have...

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918780)

A516Digital has reveal that the Sky Ocean Rescue HD ‘pop-up’ channel will launch Wednesday October 4th until Sunday 9th October 2017.

http://www.a516digital.com/2017/10/s...p-channel.html

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918826)

Overnight SDT scan data shows temporary rebrands, True Movies has now morphed into True Christmas and Nick Jr Too has morphed into Nick Jr Peppa.

The scan indicated that pack codes have been suppressed for Cartoon Network, Cartoonito, Nickelodeon, Boomerang, Pop, Tiny Pop & TV5, suggesting that these channels are currently available to all viewers. There's no indication of how long they will be available on all TV packs.

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35918895)

Until 31st October.

http://cdn.virginmediapresents.com/2...de_OCT17-1.pdf

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918878)

I would just point out that 9 October is a Monday. Not your fault, MB, the article is wrong.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918843)

No mention of it being broadcast as a pop up channel on Virgin Media, I see.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35918945)

Sky and Virgin threaten to drop RTE.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2017...eid=3598503789

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918958)

Personally, I think that Sky and Virgin have the whip hand here. I don't understand why RTE think they can just demand this money and these platforms will pay up.

If they are not bothered whether or not they carry RTE, then RTE will just have to accept the devision or lose a massive amount of advertising revenue.

The same goes for ITV as long as there is no legislation getting in the way of this.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918958)

Personally, I think that Sky and Virgin have the whip hand here. I don't understand why RTE think they can just demand this money and these platforms will pay up.

If they are not bothered whether or not they carry RTE, then RTE will just have to accept the devision or lose a massive amount of advertising revenue.

The same goes for ITV as long as there is no legislation getting in the way of this.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918959)

The Story is about Virgin Media Ireland.

Virgin Media Ireland viewers may lose the following channels:

Entertainment:
-RTÉ One
-RTÉ player
-RTÉ2
-RTÉ One +1
-RTÉ One HD
-RTÉ2 HD

News and Documentaries:
-RTÉ News Now

Kids:
-RTÉjr
-TRTÉ

Radio:
-RTÉ Radio 1
-RTÉ 2FM
-RTÉ Lyric FM
-RTÉ Raidió na Gaeltachta
-RTÉ Radio 1 Extra
-RTÉ Gold
-RTÉjr Radio
-RTÉ Chill
-RTÉ Pulse
-RTÉ 2XM

©copyright 2017 Virgin Media Ireland (Part of Liberty Global).

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/p...15-update.html (Link information was right on August 1st 2017 - Did we miss any thing? PM us today if we did.)

Virgin Media UK viewers may lose RTE One and RTE Two in North Ireland.
Virgin Media UK viewers may lose RTE Radio 1 UK Wide.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918985)

I know, MB, but VM could substitute those channels with something else if viewer numbers are sufficiently high to justify this.

In the meantime, RTE would have to survive with rather less money. I don't think RTE would take such a risk, and therefore Virgin and Sky can afford to play hardball.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918988)

If ITV play hardball we feel one of the following may happen.

-Virgin Media UK launch TV3, B3 and 3e on the network.

-Virgin Media takeover ITV.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918988)

If ITV play hardball we feel one of the following may happen.

-Virgin Media UK launch TV3, B3 and 3e on the network.
-Virgin Media takeover ITV.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918994)

Will never happen as that would involve creating content which VM won't do.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919000)

I wouldn't rule it out, though. I think a change of mind may have taken place. Shifting sands, old chap...

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919009)

I hope so as be nice to see vm make content again and would give them a extra bargaining chip with sky and bt too.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919011)

having content didn't really help BT get much sky content like

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919013)

That's because they couldn't afford to deny Sky access to BT Sports!

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919011)

having content didn't really help BT get much sky content like

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919024)

Sky didn't really get BT content either yes it's available on the platform but BT themselves maintain the subs, i could launch a prem channel tomorrow (never happen as i don't have the money lol) and SKY would need to carry it on their platform if i wanted, had the licence and paid the EPG fess etc.
So that kind of puts water on your cornflakes.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919025)

not having content hasn't stopped VM getting content like that my point

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919025)

not having content hasn't stopped VM getting content like that my point

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919030)

Oh yeah? Well, where is Sky Sports UHD, BT Sport UHD and Sky Atlantic, for starters.

If Discovery won the premiership rights, things could change significantly!

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919030)

Oh yeah? Well, where is Sky Sports UHD, BT Sport UHD and Sky Atlantic, for starters.

If Discovery won the premiership rights, things could change significantly!

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919031)

Yeah VM are that great at getting content they still haven't got freesports which is on freesat and freeview oh they won't have BT sport in XL pack much longer either.
Also remind me where is AMC on vm oh that's right they haven't got it on their platform and never will either.
Enjoy your drum.

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Discovery isn't a bad shout tbh but i can't see it happening however they might get football league only time will tell.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919034)

what has sky not let anyone else SA and sports UHD have to do with VM not have content like they not letting anyone else have it as I keep telling you OB sky will never ever let anyone else have SA or sports UHD so please tell us all OB what can VM do when sky wont let anyone ever have them

ps if other providers had it without VM then you would have a point

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35919041)

Oh Old Boy you do seem to live in complete fantasy land sometimes , withhold a Sports channel from the UK's biggest pay TV platform by some distance that would certainly lose them a shed load of viewers something they certainly wouldn't be able to afford if they'd outbid Sky.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919034)

what has sky not let anyone else SA and sports UHD have to do with VM not have content like they not letting anyone else have it as I keep telling you OB sky will never ever let anyone else have SA or sports UHD so please tell us all OB what can VM do when sky wont let anyone ever have them

ps if other providers had it without VM then you would have a point

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well we see on BT sport wont we can see them doing another deal suits both parties to do another deal

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918988)

If ITV play hardball we feel one of the following may happen.

-Virgin Media UK launch TV3, B3 and 3e on the network.
-Virgin Media takeover ITV.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919045)

Only suites greedy VM so no deal will be made.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919040)

You are so defeatist, Dave! It has everything to do with it.

Sky would not like having popular channels on VM's platform that they were unable to bring their viewers, and this would provide an excellent backdrop for a trade.

I mean, if Discovery were to win the lion's share of the Premiership rights, think of the damage that would be done to Sky if Discovery were not willing to play ball with Sky. If Discovery then said that Sky could have their HD and UHD channels if Sky did a deal on Sky Atlantic, do you really believe that Sky would fold its arms and fail to do that deal? That's just one scenario I could envisage.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918994)

Will never happen as that would involve creating content which VM won't do.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919047)

come on mate think you think bt shareholders gonna be happy with lose of lots of viewers and ad revenue after all the money they spent getting premier league and champions league games

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Realist OB realist

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35919050)

Not as a platform operator but if they acquire a PSB, that's a whole new ball game.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919052)

Would LG share holders be happy with losing champions league, Europa league etc?
BT can offer bt sports on their app and website so could gain some of those lost viewers that way. Vm aren't as untouchable as some think infact no company is keep in mind Vm have already cheesed bt off over the Eiresport only time will tell.

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I hate Vm as most know but i'd rather they had Itv as itv is a shadow of what it used to be but i think Sky would go for itv too.
Interesting times ahead i think.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919030)

Oh yeah? Well, where is Sky Sports UHD, BT Sport UHD and Sky Atlantic, for starters.

If Discovery won the premiership rights, things could change significantly!

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35919041)

Oh Old Boy you do seem to live in complete fantasy land sometimes , withhold a Sports channel from the UK's biggest pay TV platform by some distance that would certainly lose them a shed load of viewers something they certainly wouldn't be able to afford if they'd outbid Sky.

Have you seen how much the current rights cost BT and Sky eye watering to say the least.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919059)

So its now Discovery rather then Amazon now OB.;)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919069)

It could be any one of the global players, Den, and that also includes Google and Netflix.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919070)

You remind me of a famous quote once made and that is if you don't succeed once , twice or three times then try , try and try again..;):D

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919071)

If you go through my old posts, Den, you will find that I've been saying this for some time now. I'm not sure why it was only Amazon that stuck in your mind.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919072)

Well one thing l have to praise you for is your consistency OB.:)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919099)

You've said worse things about me... :sulk:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919070)

You remind me of a famous quote once made and that is if you don't succeed once , twice or three times then try , try and try again..;):D

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919103)

When did google or netflix bid for the football then?
Or have i misread your comment?

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919103)

When did google or netflix bid for the football then?
Or have i misread your comment?

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919110)

But where is your substantiation of any proof that this is going to happen OB?.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919105)

OB stated that could happen not l Sir.

Originally Posted by Ultimate.Conj (Post 35919160)

Not wanting to get involved, but there are a few articles which mention another players being involved in the Premier League rights

https://www.theguardian.com/football...chester-united

Who wouldn't believe Man Utd's Vice-Chairman? :-)

This one was only posted today too
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/f...-a7984101.html

Not 100%, but a possibility it could happen

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35919167)

Sky sources has confirmed that Sky One is getting a big relaunch soon. Sky One will be getting new Idents. That's all we've been told so far. More info next week.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919161)

If they don't get prem rights i can see them testing the waters by going to football league rights.

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35919173)

Sky recently retained the EFL rights for another 7 years!
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ches-than-ever

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35919167)

Sky sources has confirmed that Sky One is getting a big relaunch soon. Sky One will be getting new Idents. That's all we've been told so far. More info next week.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919176)

Let's hope the relaunch also includes a revamp of their schedules and not just new idents! I am not very happy with the quality of the programming on here, and given their love of The Simpsons, maybe they should think about launching a Simpsons Channel, leaving a nice space in the Sky 1 schedules for some good new dramas.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919175)

And l expect the same scenario to play out for the auction for the premiership rights albeit for a lesser period and with BT having some of the broadcast matches.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919176)

Let's hope the relaunch also includes a revamp of their schedules and not just new idents! I am not very happy with the quality of the programming on here, and given their love of The Simpsons, maybe they should think about launching a Simpsons Channel, leaving a nice space in the Sky 1 schedules for some good new dramas.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35919178)

Atlantic.................:shocked:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919179)

And you base that, and in future auctions too, you will base that on what has gone before.

There is no credible information out there to suggest that this state of affairs will continue forever. You could be right this time around, although not necessarily, but Sky would do well just to get the smaller packages in subsequent auctions.

Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35919173)

Sky recently retained the EFL rights for another 7 years!
http://www.skysports.com/football/ne...ches-than-ever

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919176)

Let's hope the relaunch also includes a revamp of their schedules and not just new idents! I am not very happy with the quality of the programming on here, and given their love of The Simpsons, maybe they should think about launching a Simpsons Channel, leaving a nice space in the Sky 1 schedules for some good new dramas.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919186)

Well if you like watching Aston villa as that's all they seem to show lol :p:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919188)

The bigger sides will be shown more as they are more popular with the viewers.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35919201)

Didn't someone say that AMC might be coming to VM?

To maybe add a little weight to this, BT and AMC have announced that it will be available free of charge on the Sky platform from 28/10/17 to 5/11/17.

'Viewers can catch a whole host of series marathons as well as the exclusive UK premiere of the new drama series “Snatch” starring Rupert Grint (the Harry Potter films) on 31st October at 10.00pm and the UK linear television premiere of the acclaimed supernatural drama “Preacher,” starring Dominic Cooper (The History Boys, Mamma Mia!) on 30th October at 9.00pm.'

btplc.com/News/#/pressreleases

Looks like they're getting impatient with the low viewing figures, so it could happen...

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919184)

You know what is going to happen at the next auction OB and yet you have this can't see it intransigence in the very faint hope that somehow Sky will lose the premier league rights to the big media companies or the streaming giants which frankly is unrealistic in the extreme IMO.

And now you go on about them losing them at subsequent auctions so your assertion that they were going to lose the rights at the next auction is a bit like a chameleon who seems to change his opinions on a regular basis to suit his argument.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919202)

Aston villa aren't that big tbf but i'm biased being a Wolves fan lol.
On the plus side SKY constantly showing villa means our matches won't get moved around so less pain in the backside getting to and from matches.

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AMC is not going to be on VM anytime soon and we suspect BTsports will not be in the XL pack either when next deal comes around.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919209)

No, Den, I have said quite a few times it will either be this round or next.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35919218)

think it will but we see it suits both to do the deal

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919202)

AMC is not going to be on VM anytime soon and we suspect BTsports will not be in the XL pack either when next deal comes around.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919228)

I would have thought that BT would want to continue the arrangement because it is likely to bring in more VM viewers than would otherwise be the case. They could lose income without such a deal.

As for Virgin, it is certainly a plus in attracting subscribers, who do not pay more than the Full House to get BT Sport. However, it must be fairly expensive for Virgin, and they will be conscious of the fact that that viewers are upset with all these price rises. There is also a resentment that non sports viewers are having to contribute so much towards BT's sports channels.

I see a potential problem if the wholesale deal is not renewed. BT like to handle subscription payments themselves (look at the upset this caused with Sky) and I am not sure that Virgin would allow this either, in which case there would be no BT Sports at all on cable. However, maybe there's a way around it: after all, we pay directly to Netflix without any problems.

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Why do you think that, theone? AMC do not benefit from many subscribers, being only on BT, with Sky viewers having to subscribe to BT Sports or their broadband service, and I would have thought that AMC would want to have more of the UK population paying for it.

I suppose that AMC could cease the UK channel's exclusivity when their existing deal with BT expires and make their offerings available through alternative streaming services. I would find that perfectly acceptable.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919250)

I'm going on the basis of VM cheesing of BT a while back unless they've now kissed and made up.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35919281)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919283)

On that l think we can agree.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919283)

On that l think we can agree.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919301)

We have had info that Food network HD is launching in 2018 on all platforms.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35919301)

We have had info that Food network HD is launching in 2018 on all platforms.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35919303)

:Yikes:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919305)

Good grief you sound pleased for once.;)

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35919357)

ITV to levy £140m+ on Virgin Media and Sky to air its main channel.

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2017/10/...s-main-channel