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1andrew1 10-06-2016 19:15

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35842259)
Who knows you may well be right and it's just info about the box , I guess time will tell.

Pocket Lint has been invited to the 29th June event and confirms the box is 4K.
I wonder if Now TV will add subscription options to provide more than the current two simultaneous devices in use and an upper tier subscription with 1080/4K when available. Can't see an HBO Online offering being announced.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1378...ced-on-29-june

Chad 10-06-2016 20:01

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35842247)
It says it's so much more maybe new packs/packages ?

Could just be the box who knows , as far as I'm aware most of the info on the new box is pretty much out there.

New channels in the Entertainment pass is almost a certainty. Maybe a rabbit out the hat as well. Netflix and Amazon Instant video available on there too like Roku?

muppetman11 10-06-2016 20:14

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842269)
New channels in the Entertainment pass is almost a certainty. Maybe a rabbit out the hat as well. Netflix and Amazon Instant video available on there too like Roku?

I'd expect some users already have the new Now TV box , I guess time will tell what else arrives if anything.

1andrew1 10-06-2016 20:19

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842269)
New channels in the Entertainment pass is almost a certainty. Maybe a rabbit out the hat as well. Netflix and Amazon Instant video available on there too like Roku?

I would have expected Now TV to have added the extra channels when the children's pack was split off from the entertainment and they added one channel then so I wouldn't expect them to add more on the 29th. I think the reason Now TV can keep the box so cheap is that they keep the competitors off so I can't see Amazon and Netflix joining soon.

Mad Max 10-06-2016 20:34

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35842272)
I'd expect some users already have the new Now TV box , I guess time will tell what else arrives if anything.

I didn't think that it was available yet MM?

passingbat 10-06-2016 21:05

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35842283)
I didn't think that it was available yet MM?

Trialists have them but are under NDA.

Chad 10-06-2016 21:06

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35842275)
I would have expected Now TV to have added the extra channels when the children's pack was split off from the entertainment and they added one channel then so I wouldn't expect them to add more on the 29th. I think the reason Now TV can keep the box so cheap is that they keep the competitors off so I can't see Amazon and Netflix joining soon.

I think they'll add SKY Sports Mix and SKY Sports News at the very least. I'm confident new channels are coming as they confirmed more channels are due to be added on the Now TV forum when the kids channels got cut recently

Mad Max 10-06-2016 22:56

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They defo need to get this crap 30 day catch up sorted!

1andrew1 10-06-2016 23:22

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35842283)
I didn't think that it was available yet MM?

Sky employees and other testers presumably?

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842294)
I think they'll add SKY Sports Mix and SKY Sports News at the very least. I'm confident new channels are coming as they confirmed more channels are due to be added on the Now TV forum when the kids channels got cut recently

OK and good point about Sky Sports Mix. But Sky Sports News is on Now TV.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35842318)
They defo need to get this crap 30 day catch up sorted!

A lot of box sets have more than 30 days.

Chad 10-06-2016 23:47

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35842321)
OK and good point about Sky Sports Mix. But Sky Sports News is on Now TV.

Totally agree about SKY Sports News but as far as I'm aware it's only available on the NOW TV box. I think this will become a standard channel across all devices and platforms.

I remember doing a survey a long time ago about channels on NOW TV. I remember that National Geographic channel was one most would want to see added to the the line-up. Whether this arrives or not is anyone's guess at that stage. I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

Just over 2 weeks until we see this "BIG" announcement. I'm interested to see what they deliver. Could be a real viable alternative to SKY and Virgin Media for those on a tighter budget.

love Virgin2013 11-06-2016 01:52

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Where has it been seen that the New Now TV box is out on June 25th?

Im asking as im doing the trial and there are still issues with it so im surprised that date has been talked about.

Of course i cant say anything about the the new box.

denphone 11-06-2016 07:05

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842325)
Totally agree about SKY Sports News but as far as I'm aware it's only available on the NOW TV box. I think this will become a standard channel across all devices and platforms.

I remember doing a survey a long time ago about channels on NOW TV. I remember that National Geographic channel was one most would want to see added to the the line-up. Whether this arrives or not is anyone's guess at that stage. I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

Just over 2 weeks until we see this "BIG" announcement. I'm interested to see what they deliver. Could be a real viable alternative to SKY and Virgin Media for those on a tighter budget.

And there was me thinking you could predict the future old boy.;)

OLD BOY 11-06-2016 11:02

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35842275)
I would have expected Now TV to have added the extra channels when the children's pack was split off from the entertainment and they added one channel then so I wouldn't expect them to add more on the 29th. I think the reason Now TV can keep the box so cheap is that they keep the competitors off so I can't see Amazon and Netflix joining soon.

I would have thought that adding Netflix and Amazon to the Now TV box would have made it more attractive, leading to more sales. That's certainly why I chose a Roku over the other available options.

Mad Max 11-06-2016 11:12

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Originally Posted by love Virgin2013 (Post 35842336)
Where has it been seen that the New Now TV box is out on June 25th?

Im asking as im doing the trial and there are still issues with it so im surprised that date has been talked about.

Of course i cant say anything about the the new box.


It's actually being unveiled on the 29th June, as to when it goes on public sale is another matter, but i'd assume it would be on sale fairly soon after being unveiled.


https://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2016..._on_june_29th/

muppetman11 11-06-2016 11:59

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That guy is very optimistic in your link MM , I think he could very well be disappointed.

Mad Max 11-06-2016 12:07

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35842395)
That guy is very optimistic in your link MM , I think he could very well be disappointed.


It seems to suggest that he/they have an invite on 29th June MM, if that's the case then surely the date would be correct?

1andrew1 11-06-2016 13:20

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35842376)
I would have thought that adding Netflix and Amazon to the Now TV box would have made it more attractive, leading to more sales. That's certainly why I chose a Roku over the other available options.

The Roku and Now TV boxes have entirely different business models:
Roku - cost of box covered by purchase price plus marginal revenue from apps. Cheapest Roku box on website £70.
Now TV - cost of box subsidised by sale of content. Cost of box on website £15 but when bundled with content, it means that it's effectively given away. Works on the razor principle - give away the razor and make money from the sales of the blades.

Adding Netflix and Amazon would make the Now TV box more attractive and it would sell more. Each Now TV box makes a loss (remember the difference in price between a Now TV box and a Roku is £55 (£70-£15) and having Netflix and Amazon Prime on would reduce the chances of purchasers subscribing to Now TV. So Sky would be faced with a choice of funding more box sales with less chance of recouping its box subsidies or charging more per box which would encroach upon Roku.

The current situation seems to me the best of both worlds - if you want multiple services, pay more and get Roku. If you just want a cheap box for Now TV (plus the PSB catch-up services) then take a subsidised box.

As the saying goes, sales are vanity and profits are sanity.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842325)
Totally agree about SKY Sports News but as far as I'm aware it's only available on the NOW TV box. I think this will become a standard channel across all devices and platforms.

It's available on all devices (except YouView) when you subscribe to Sky Sports. Now TV just witholds it to promote its own box.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842325)
I remember doing a survey a long time ago about channels on NOW TV. I remember that National Geographic channel was one most would want to see added to the the line-up. Whether this arrives or not is anyone's guess at that stage. I wouldn't be shocked to see it.

They could devise a factual pack but that would suggest taking Discovery and National Geographic Wild out of the Entertainment pack. Maybe add some more channels into the Entertainment pack and charge more for it.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35842325)
Just over 2 weeks until we see this "BIG" announcement. I'm interested to see what they deliver. Could be a real viable alternative to SKY and Virgin Media for those on a tighter budget.

Will be interesting to see what they do. At one stage Now TV was bundled with broadband so they may try a broadband offer aimed at the TalkTalk/Plusnet market. Certainly, a higher tier pack with 1080/4K picture quality is likely. Sky obviously knows it must avoid cannibalising its satellite base too much. Interestingly, uSwitch is convinced the new box will be a PVR. Maybe more than one box? https://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2016...s_now_just_20/

passingbat 11-06-2016 13:56

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35842398)
It seems to suggest that he/they have an invite on 29th June MM, if that's the case then surely the date would be correct?

I'm guessing it's the details that MM is speculating on. Not sure if the hard drive bit is correct from that web link. I have no actual knowledge though.

muppetman11 11-06-2016 16:43

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35842411)
I'm guessing it's the details that MM is speculating on. Not sure if the hard drive bit is correct from that web link. I have no actual knowledge though.

That's my exact point , can you honestly believe anyone would think the box will have a HDD ?

A service that can be had for around a fiver is going to want to keep the box costs as cheap as possible.

love Virgin2013 12-06-2016 03:40

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The new Now TV box will not go on sale till at least the school summer holidays and if anyone thinks it will have a PVR then they will be wrong.

1andrew1 12-06-2016 10:14

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Originally Posted by love Virgin2013 (Post 35842552)
The new Now TV box will not go on sale till at least the school summer holidays and if anyone thinks it will have a PVR then they will be wrong.

I think forum members don't think the box will have a PVR as Sky's original announcement made no mention of this. uSwitch has written this and attributes its source to Argos so probably a case of Chinese whispers!
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Originally posted by uSwitch
Sky is prepping a next-gen Now TV Box, that'll come complete with a hard drive for storing shows. That would make it essentially a cut-down version of its Sky+ set-top box, though one that's only able to connect through the internet.

https://www.uswitch.com/tv/news/2016...s_now_just_20/

muppetman11 12-06-2016 11:10

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Andrew you shouldn't believe everything you read.;)

1andrew1 12-06-2016 11:45

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35842583)
Andrew you shouldn't believe everything you read.;)

lol, I don't, just pointing out to love Virgin2013 that it was uSwitch that believed it would have a PVR, not us forum members. ;)

denphone 12-06-2016 11:58

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35842583)
Andrew you shouldn't believe everything you read.;)

Now now MM we all take our lead from you old boy.;)

Mad Max 28-06-2016 14:56

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American Odyssey : Season 1, starts on Netflix now, looks interesting.

passingbat 28-06-2016 16:01

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35846599)
American Odyssey : Season 1, starts on Netflix now, looks interesting.

BBC showed it, but I never got round to watching it; I'll give it a go on Netflix. It only ran for one season though.

Mad Max 28-06-2016 16:07

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35846617)
BBC showed it, but I never got round to watching it; I'll give it a go on Netflix. It only ran for one season though.

I can't recall that show being on BBC, PB, but i'll give it a go and see what it's like.

heavyside 28-06-2016 17:00

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I believe it was titled plain old 'Odyssey' when it was first broadcast. I loved it. It had shades of Homeland about it.

denphone 30-06-2016 15:17

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Netflix UK gains entire Star Trek saga.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/netflix-uk-g...tar-trek-saga/

BenMcr 30-06-2016 15:53

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Doesn't include the original cast films though by the looks of it :(

johnathome 30-06-2016 16:21

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Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35847213)
Doesn't include the original cast films though by the looks of it :(

They're all airing on SyFy soon :)

muppetman11 30-06-2016 16:40

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35847204)
Netflix UK gains entire Star Trek saga.

http://www.seenit.co.uk/netflix-uk-g...tar-trek-saga/

Beam me up Scotty :wtf:

denphone 30-06-2016 16:44

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Oh dear el capitano does seem rather grumpy today.;)

Horizon 30-06-2016 16:47

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Although they're old, the trek series' have enormous fan loyalty and staying power.

I have all the trek dvds, but why bother with them when I can switch on Netflix and choose what I want with ease.

A very good move by Netflix.

denphone 30-06-2016 17:00

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Yes l quite agree but alas those most venerated think differently..

passingbat 30-06-2016 18:08

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35847236)
Yes l quite agree but alas those most venerated think differently..

I prefer Captain Kirk when he landed on Boston Legal ;):D

denphone 30-06-2016 18:23

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Netflix has given a 10-episode series order to “Lost in Space,” a reboot of the classic science-fiction television show.

http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/lost...ix-1201806272/

muppetman11 01-07-2016 10:33

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Amazon takes another first rights window with Showtime's comedy 'Roadies'

Horizon 05-07-2016 17:17

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Comcast will let Netflix onto its X1 platform (which is a very big deal):

http://www.recode.net/2016/7/5/12096...-very-big-deal

toady 06-07-2016 14:08

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35848230)
Comcast will let Netflix onto its X1 platform (which is a very big deal):

http://www.recode.net/2016/7/5/12096...-very-big-deal

Not much of a big deal to UK based VM subscribers :confused:

RichardCoulter 11-07-2016 18:15

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Free one day sports pass:

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...ee-with-now-tv

MalteseFalcon 12-07-2016 13:54

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So, I decided to give Game of Thrones a go, if I bought a Now TV pass, would I be able to watch all the series on there? If not, what streaming service shows all series?

Thanks.

theone2k10 12-07-2016 14:27

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Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35849470)
So, I decided to give Game of Thrones a go, if I bought a Now TV pass, would I be able to watch all the series on there? If not, what streaming service shows all series?

Thanks.

At the moment only last 3 episodes from most recent season are on nowtv but Game of thrones keeps coming and going.
HBOGO or HBONOW offer all seasons but you'll need a vpn or smart dns such as unblock-us or unotelly and to know someone in USA who has HBO to get HBOGO, HBO Now is $15p/m i think that's about £10 ish.
HBO Nordic is a good option too passing bat knows more about that than me i think so maybe he can help you.

RichardCoulter 12-07-2016 16:31

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EE customers are to be able to stream BT Sport for free for six months following the purchase of EE by BT:

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/off-the-...el_276584.html

It says it's for mobiles and tablets only, presumably it will be possible to 'cast' the feed onto the TV??

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35849330)

I'd expect as per previous offers that there is no need to activate the pass on Thursday so you could save it for up to a year for something else that your more interested in ;)

buckeye 12-07-2016 18:17

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35849488)
EE customers are to be able to stream BT Sport for free for six months following the purchase of EE by BT:

http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/off-the-...el_276584.html

It says it's for mobiles and tablets only, presumably it will be possible to 'cast' the feed onto the TV??

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I'd expect as per previous offers that there is no need to activate the pass on Thursday so you could save it for up to a year for something else that your more interested in ;)


BT so far are quite generous on what they class as a mobile device and if my experience with BT Lite is anything to go by you would be correct in assuming it can be "cast" to a TV and in very high (HD) quality.
I think on such a public forum it may not be wise for me to post what devices I have it working on with my TV (would be glad to send you a PM if you want to know) for fear of them closing these methods down.

Regarding the free Now TV pass I saw nothing in the T & C's that said you had to use it that day so I'll be claiming mine, if the worst comes to the worst I'll have wasted a few minutes signing up for it.

RichardCoulter 12-07-2016 20:15

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Originally Posted by buckeye (Post 35849518)
BT so far are quite generous on what they class as a mobile device and if my experience with BT Lite is anything to go by you would be correct in assuming it can be "cast" to a TV and in very high (HD) quality.
I think on such a public forum it may not be wise for me to post what devices I have it working on with my TV (would be glad to send you a PM if you want to know) for fear of them closing these methods down.

Regarding the free Now TV pass I saw nothing in the T & C's that said you had to use it that day so I'll be claiming mine, if the worst comes to the worst I'll have wasted a few minutes signing up for it.

Thanks for offered to help me, but I get BT Sport anyway as I'm on XL :)

zantarous 18-07-2016 22:49

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Netflix gains rights to stream the new Star Trek show globally (except USA and Canada) 24 hours after US broadcast. This is a monumental milestone in TV broadcasting.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/s...-trek-netflix/

Horizon 19-07-2016 00:12

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....agree.

It's the beginning of the end for big packs of satellite/cable subscription channels.

No longer does a broadcaster need to do multiple deals globally for their shows, they just phone up Netflix or Amazon.

As I've said before, I reckon the main terrestrial broadcasters will probably survive in one form or another into the future, but all the rest will die.

And as a reminder, Netflix now has streaming rights to all Trek shows. My Star Trek DVD sets look very nice on their shelf above my tv, but hell, why bother with all that "hassle" when I can just switch on Netflix!

denphone 19-07-2016 09:34

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Netflix price rises prompt subscribers to turn off as their international losses mount....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36831819

1andrew1 19-07-2016 10:15

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Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35850243)
Netflix gains rights to stream the new Star Trek show globally (except USA and Canada) 24 hours after US broadcast. This is a monumental milestone in TV broadcasting.

http://www.empireonline.com/movies/s...-trek-netflix/

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850257)
Netflix price rises prompt subscribers to turn off as their international losses mount....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36831819

I did wonder if the Star Trek deal was announced to hide the poor subscriber figures.

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850246)
No longer does a broadcaster need to do multiple deals globally for their shows, they just phone up Netflix or Amazon.

Presumably, they can just outsource international sales with one phone call anyway, so it's more a matter of which brings in the most revenue and exposure.

denphone 19-07-2016 10:22

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Some on here seem to think streaming services will dominate our viewing in the years to come but as we all know that's just a load of baloney as streaming will have its place in our entertainment world but it will never replace normal linear TV viewing which will always have the ability to generate large audiences for major single events as that's something streaming services can never do.

theone2k10 19-07-2016 11:32

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850257)
Netflix price rises prompt subscribers to turn off as their international losses mount....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36831819

Most of those who stopped subscribing stopped because Netflix blocked vpns and smart dns, more cancellations are coming one feels if Netflix doesn't listen to it's customers.

OLD BOY 19-07-2016 11:36

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850262)
Some on here seem to think streaming services will dominate our viewing in the years to come but as we all know that's just a load of baloney as streaming will have its place in our entertainment world but it will never replace normal linear TV viewing which will always have the ability to generate large audiences for major single events as that's something streaming services can never do.

I think the scene will look rather different in the years to come, Den. The big change will come when the BBC licence fee is scrapped in favour of a subscription. That's when those who can't afford a Netflix subscription will at last have a genuine choice about which services to purchase.

When that happens (and that is likely to be at least a decade away), the likes of Netflix will indeed be able to deliver big audiences.

1andrew1 19-07-2016 11:57

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850266)
Most of those who stopped subscribing stopped because Netflix blocked vpns and smart dns, more cancellations are coming one feels if Netflix doesn't listen to it's customers.

I'm not sure that subscribers reduced for the reasons you state, I think Netflix is correct that it's lost subscribers as it's upped its prices. In the US, Netflix is highly successful as there are weak public FTA channels. Outside the US, it's a far more competitive market.
In what respect does Netflix not listen to its customers? It is trying to acquire content on a global basis but it won't get any content suppliers to sign deals with it if it doesn't abide by regional rights.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35850267)
I think the scene will look rather different in the years to come, Den. The big change will come when the BBC licence fee is scrapped in favour of a subscription. That's when those who can't afford a Netflix subscription will at last have a genuine choice about which services to purchase.

When that happens (and that is likely to be at least a decade away), the likes of Netflix will indeed be able to deliver big audiences.

That's an interesting hypothesis, and I don't mean it sarcastically.

theone2k10 19-07-2016 12:35

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35850274)
I'm not sure that subscribers reduced for the reasons you state, I think Netflix is correct that it's lost subscribers as it's upped its prices. In the US, Netflix is highly successful as there are weak public FTA channels. Outside the US, it's a far more competitive market.
In what respect does Netflix not listen to its customers? It is trying to acquire content on a global basis but it won't get any content suppliers to sign deals with it if it doesn't abide by regional rights.

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That's an interesting hypothesis, and I don't mean it sarcastically.

Blocking vpns for a start Netflix customers asked them not to do this as many use vpns for privacy reasons but Netflix still went ahead anyway and blocked vpns, smart dns you can understand as it's obvious what they are mostly used for but vpns no need to block them many myself included use them for privacy reasons, i don't want the goverment (for example) seeing what i do online or tracking me (no nothing naughty lol) so i use a vpn to give me privacy, Netflix should understand this and maybe say "ok use your vpn but only for the region you subscribed to netflix in, if you use other regions you won't gain access" complex i kjnow but doable.
To add i'm quite happy with uk netflix there is some superb original content on it i think globaly too shows such as stranger things, orange is the new black, daredevil and slowly they do seem to be getting more and more new movies. I just rather Netflix allowed me to use my vpn for my privacy, vpns can also protect users too against things such as hackers, no i'm not being paranoid it does happen.

passingbat 19-07-2016 13:40

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35850267)
The big change will come when the BBC licence fee is scrapped in favour of a subscription. .

Wasn't/isn't going to happen anyway. Good to see the anti-BBC John Whittingdalehas been sacked.

1andrew1 19-07-2016 15:35

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850280)
Blocking vpns for a start Netflix customers asked them not to do this as many use vpns for privacy reasons but Netflix still went ahead anyway and blocked vpns, smart dns you can understand as it's obvious what they are mostly used for but vpns no need to block them many myself included use them for privacy reasons, i don't want the goverment (for example) seeing what i do online or tracking me (no nothing naughty lol) so i use a vpn to give me privacy, Netflix should understand this and maybe say "ok use your vpn but only for the region you subscribed to netflix in, if you use other regions you won't gain access" complex i kjnow but doable.
To add i'm quite happy with uk netflix there is some superb original content on it i think globaly too shows such as stranger things, orange is the new black, daredevil and slowly they do seem to be getting more and more new movies. I just rather Netflix allowed me to use my vpn for my privacy, vpns can also protect users too against things such as hackers, no i'm not being paranoid it does happen.

Presumably it's down to requirements from Netflix's content suppliers, there's no benefit to Netflix to block VPNs. They can listen to their customers but if their suppliers say no or charge a premium for permitting VPNs then Netflix can't do much about it. Once they get bigger then maybe they will be able to set the terms of future contracts.

muppetman11 19-07-2016 19:14

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35850266)
Most of those who stopped subscribing stopped because Netflix blocked vpns and smart dns, more cancellations are coming one feels if Netflix doesn't listen to it's customers.

I highly doubt that's the main reason , it's simply not a case of Netflix not listening to its customers its a case of them adhering to the stipulations put in place by the movie/tv studios like all other providers are made to do.

Horizon 19-07-2016 23:46

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850262)
Some on here seem to think streaming services will dominate our viewing in the years to come but as we all know that's just a load of baloney as streaming will have its place in our entertainment world but it will never replace normal linear TV viewing which will always have the ability to generate large audiences for major single events as that's something streaming services can never do.

Let me throw a scenario at you....

In ten years time Amazon has all the tv/streaming rights to not only the majority of the games of the Premier League but also the Italian, French, German, American NFL, NBA and baseball matches too.

Do you really think if these games are streamed live, that sports fans will not watch these games via Amazon's service?

A tv channel is only a means of watching tv shows, sports, news etc. It's not the sport, drama, news itself only a means to "deliver" it.

What would Netflix's (rather shaky) subscriber numbers look like today if they had global rights to new episodes of Game of Thrones?

muppetman11 20-07-2016 11:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850345)
Let me throw a scenario at you....

In ten years time Amazon has all the tv/streaming rights to not only the majority of the games of the Premier League but also the Italian, French, German, American NFL, NBA and baseball matches too.

Do you really think if these games are streamed live, that sports fans will not watch these games via Amazon's service?

A tv channel is only a means of watching tv shows, sports, news etc. It's not the sport, drama, news itself only a means to "deliver" it.

What would Netflix's (rather shaky) subscriber numbers look like today if they had global rights to new episodes of Game of Thrones?

That's a whole load of what ifs.

denphone 20-07-2016 11:52

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Yes that's what l thought but alas he is not the first on this forum to come out with a lot of Ifs , buts and maybes as we have a venerable forum member who has a track record of that type of thinking.;):D

Stephen 20-07-2016 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850262)
Some on here seem to think streaming services will dominate our viewing in the years to come but as we all know that's just a load of baloney as streaming will have its place in our entertainment world but it will never replace normal linear TV viewing which will always have the ability to generate large audiences for major single events as that's something streaming services can never do.

You say that but where most people would have watched TV live they now prefer to watch via catch up or record shows to watch later using a DVR.

Linear viewing has already changed for good and streaming services are starting to become the norm.

Live sports streamed over iPlayer for example would still generate large number of viewers. ie red button sports like the Olympics.

spiderplant 20-07-2016 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 35850366)
You say that but where most people would have watched TV live they now prefer to watch via catch up or record shows to watch later using a DVR.

Huh? 88% of TV viewing is live.

Source: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...cmr15/UK_2.pdf

1andrew1 20-07-2016 13:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850345)
Let me throw a scenario at you....

In ten years time Amazon has all the tv/streaming rights to not only the majority of the games of the Premier League but also the Italian, French, German, American NFL, NBA and baseball matches too.

Do you really think if these games are streamed live, that sports fans will not watch these games via Amazon's service?

A tv channel is only a means of watching tv shows, sports, news etc. It's not the sport, drama, news itself only a means to "deliver" it.

What would Netflix's (rather shaky) subscriber numbers look like today if they had global rights to new episodes of Game of Thrones?

I think you make some good points there Horizon. In essence, content is king though brands eg BBC, Channel 4 have a lot of pull too.

The current pay-TV sports business models favour Sky Sports and BT Sport but elsewhere different models may surface. In Germany, Perform Group has launched an OTT service called DAZN (which translates as all sports, one platform). It will offer web-video rights of the Bundesliga, other European football, US sports like NBA and NFL, tennis, handball, ice-hockey, darts and other sports live and on-demand for a monthly fee. It will be available via smart TVs, tablets, smartphones, PCs, laptops and games consoles. The service will be offered in HD quality with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 surround sound. Selected content will be provided in Ultra HD/4K.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...ce-in-germany/

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Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35850377)
Huh? 88% of TV viewing is live.

Source: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...cmr15/UK_2.pdf

Good point. I think it's really easy to consider the viewing habits of ourselves and immediate people around us and think that's representative of the country as a whole. The report shows that this is a mistake. I'm surprised by the 88% figure but I guess live sports account for a lot of viewing.

mike_gain 20-07-2016 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35850377)
Huh? 88% of TV viewing is live.

Source: http://stakeholders.ofcom.org.uk/bin...cmr15/UK_2.pdf

I be surprised if that figure is sustained. While the current adult demographic are probably more likely to watch linear/live TV the younger generation, the current 5-16 age group will be more at home streaming content.

While my only evidence is anecdotal, in that I've observed that my kids all prefer using netflix/now TV as opposed to switching on Boomerang and watching what is being spat out at the time they are watching and my Niece and Nephew now consume pretty much everything via Netfix/Amazon/Now TV, there's a seems to be a shift in attitude in that generation, a demand to watch lots of episodes of a show when they want not to have to wait a week like i did. I can't even remember the last time I actively watched live tv.

That said the quality, and consistency of that quality, of shows being produced by the the likes of Netflix and Amazon is what is going to have the biggest impact. At the moment the quality is there in spades and quite frankly because of this I think this will be my last year as cable TV pay tv subscriber, certainly not one that pays an excessive amount. Between the 3 big streaming services I think I'm more than covered for entertainment, although I'd probably retain a Tivo box and try and get on a VM tv deal that costs the least to retain the ability to record some shows on the free to air HD channels.

spiderplant 20-07-2016 13:32

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35850378)
I guess live sports account for a lot of viewing.

Guess again! :)

http://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/m...wing-by-genre/

(Sport viewing in June is unusually high - check earlier months too)

zantarous 20-07-2016 15:15

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What people still look at a TV guide work out what time something is on and watch it when broadcast? That's crazy.

I have given up pretty much on live TV, even with my Now TV sub only watch on demand. Heck when breaking news happens I have a choice of every major news outlet in the world live streaming on YouTube.

On demand and delivery over the internet is the future, actually it's right now.

Mad Max 20-07-2016 23:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35850408)
What people still look at a TV guide work out what time something is on and watch it when broadcast? That's crazy.

I have given up pretty much on live TV, even with my Now TV sub only watch on demand. Heck when breaking news happens I have a choice of every major news outlet in the world live streaming on YouTube.

On demand and delivery over the internet is the future, actually it's right now.


Answer.........= Den.......:D

denphone 21-07-2016 06:42

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Yes l guess its nice be called a old fuddy duddy.;):D

zantarous 21-07-2016 09:41

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I don't want to derail the conversation but why is that Den? You have cable TV so not adverse to technology why the dislike of streaming tech?

The one think to take into account is that Netflix look as though they may just change the game here, they have exclusive rights to broadcast the new Star Trek in 188 countries (not the US and Canada) which means for the first time we will get to see a show shortly after broadcast all around the world. There will be no dropping the show because it doesn't get huge ratings (Netfilx have always stated this is immaterial to them) or shoving it into the grave yard slot.

If the show performs poorly on CBS but has a huge international audience that CBS can monetise that will keep the show going. Broadcasters like Sky ho have been dominant for so long simply can't offer distribution on the scale that Netflix can. There is no will this be shown in HD, if it is available in HD and has 5.1 audio then that is what will be available to the viewer.

1andrew1 21-07-2016 10:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850518)
Yes l guess its nice be called a old fuddy duddy.;):D

Nought wrong with the Radio Times, marker pen and an alarm clock to remind you when the next programme is on. :)

denphone 21-07-2016 10:18

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l am not adverse to streaming totally zan but l suppose you can call me old fashioned as we like nothing better then looking through the TV guide and planning what we will watch on the TV.:)

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35850534)
Nought wrong with the Radio Times, marker pen and an alarm clock to remind you when the next programme is on. :)

Its called memory loss and those who are younger might get that a little bit more when they start seeing their hair go grey.;)

theone2k10 21-07-2016 11:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35850530)
I don't want to derail the conversation but why is that Den? You have cable TV so not adverse to technology why the dislike of streaming tech?

The one think to take into account is that Netflix look as though they may just change the game here, they have exclusive rights to broadcast the new Star Trek in 188 countries (not the US and Canada) which means for the first time we will get to see a show shortly after broadcast all around the world. There will be no dropping the show because it doesn't get huge ratings (Netfilx have always stated this is immaterial to them) or shoving it into the grave yard slot.

If the show performs poorly on CBS but has a huge international audience that CBS can monetise that will keep the show going. Broadcasters like Sky ho have been dominant for so long simply can't offer distribution on the scale that Netflix can. There is no will this be shown in HD, if it is available in HD and has 5.1 audio then that is what will be available to the viewer.

I still use a paper tv guide i but tv choice on ac weekly basis and i don't even watch live tv lol or even have so much as a ariel connected to my tv, i guess me buying tv guide weekly is just out of habit.

zantarous 21-07-2016 11:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850535)
l am not adverse to streaming totally zan but l suppose you can call me old fashioned as we like nothing better then looking through the TV guide and planning what we will watch on the TV.:)[COLOR="Silver"]

That takes me back to being a teenager in the 90s and buying the Radio Times at Christmas to plan all my recordings. The rest of the year I would just use Teletext.

Have you tried the 30 free trial of Netflix? I was a quite hesitant at first did take about a year and a half after they launched in the UK for me to try it. But now I wouldn't go back to liner TV, no adds, start on one device and pick up on another. Between Neflix, Amazon and Now TV I get pretty much everything I want when I want. No need to plan viewing start a show and watch the whole season over a few days. Then start the next one show. I find I watch a lot less TV this way but more quality.

And Amazon has the killer feature of caching shows for off line viewing for when I commute or travel.

Horizon 21-07-2016 17:41

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I can tell everyone when my linear tv viewing started to drop dramatically and that was when ntl increased the broadband speeds around 2004 ish. Read into that what you want...:)

If the BBC, ITV, Ch4 and 5 showed the shows I want to watch, I would watch them. But they don't. The quality and variety has dropped dramatically on the main channels.

I too used to love getting the Christmas tv guides and planning viewing, but that's gone out of the window long ago. With the internet and being able to chit chat about any old rubbish on forums like these to fill time has also eaten a lot into my tv viewing time. So, like zantorous, I watch a lot less tv but better quality.

What I find interesting between the broadcasters here and in the States and how they have reacted to streaming services is they have gone in complete opposite directions.

Here, quality has gone down. Yes, the BBC do still do dramas, but they're so scattered all over the schedule that I generally miss them and I have no idea what the others do as I don't bother with them.

But in the States they increased substantially the amount of dramas and comedies they do. Yes, some of it is complete rubbish, but a lot of it isn't. And there is such variety in the kind of shows they do from the bog standard police/medical procedural to fantasy/sci-fi fare like Game of Thrones.

Perhaps its not a big deal that the new Star Trek show will not be on "normal" tv, but I think it is.

As I have said before, I do not expect the likes of Netflix to survive another ten years, I assume the big media companies would have bought them out by then/launched their own streaming services. But we are in a new world.

I always looked forward to finding which big film would be on ITV on a Saturday night only then to have it ruined by the news "interruption". Now there is choice, real choice.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 35850378)
I think you make some good points there Horizon. In essence, content is king though brands eg BBC, Channel 4 have a lot of pull too.

The current pay-TV sports business models favour Sky Sports and BT Sport but elsewhere different models may surface. In Germany, Perform Group has launched an OTT service called DAZN (which translates as all sports, one platform). It will offer web-video rights of the Bundesliga, other European football, US sports like NBA and NFL, tennis, handball, ice-hockey, darts and other sports live and on-demand for a monthly fee. It will be available via smart TVs, tablets, smartphones, PCs, laptops and games consoles. The service will be offered in HD quality with Dolby Digital Plus 5.1 surround sound. Selected content will be provided in Ultra HD/4K.
http://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2016/...ce-in-germany/[COLOR="Silver"]
.

10+ million people don't pay for Sky because they love Murdoch, but because they have the football and film rights. Now BT is chipping away at Murdoch's dominance, I believe his reign will start to fade.

You then only need someone like Netflix to pick up just one batch of football matches and it will erode Sky down further until the current pay tv model becomes unsustainable.

denphone 21-07-2016 17:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zantarous (Post 35850550)
That takes me back to being a teenager in the 90s and buying the Radio Times at Christmas to plan all my recordings. The rest of the year I would just use Teletext.

Have you tried the 30 free trial of Netflix? I was a quite hesitant at first did take about a year and a half after they launched in the UK for me to try it. But now I wouldn't go back to liner TV, no adds, start on one device and pick up on another. Between Neflix, Amazon and Now TV I get pretty much everything I want when I want. No need to plan viewing start a show and watch the whole season over a few days. Then start the next one show. I find I watch a lot less TV this way but more quality.

And Amazon has the killer feature of caching shows for off line viewing for when I commute or travel.

Actually we do have Netflix in our household as one of our family pays for it as he watches it quite a lot and we ourselves have watched several things on there so streaming does have a small influence on the family entertainment one could say.:) and the family also have Amazon Prime as we as a family do order quite a bit on there so our son uses that as well but compared to him and others in our family l suppose you could call us old fashioned fuddy duddy's.:)

OLD BOY 21-07-2016 17:57

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Indeed, we have real choice now. However, you cannot have the best of all worlds in respect of dramas without access to the BBC, ITV and Channel 4 and their satellite channels, and of course, the Sky channels.

You are so right that the good programmes are spread thinly across the channels these days. So I am with Den in going through the TV magazines, and I record everything worthwhile that I pick up.

However, unlike Den, I also watch TV series from Netflix, Amazon and Now TV. All together, these different outlets give a superb choice. Even in summer!

But conventional TV alone would leave me depleted.

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Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850599)
10+ million people don't pay for Sky because they love Murdoch, but because they have the football and film rights. Now BT is chipping away at Murdoch's dominance, I believe his reign will start to fade.

You then only need someone like Netflix to pick up just one batch of football matches and it will erode Sky down further until the current pay tv model becomes unsustainable.

Absolutely right, Horizon. Sky cannot expect to hang on to the Premiership rights forever. They will be challenged before much longer.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35850602)
Actually we do have Netflix in our household as one of our family pays for it as he watches it quite a lot and we ourselves have watched several things on there so streaming does have a small influence on the family entertainment one could say.:) and the family also have Amazon Prime as we as a family do order quite a bit on there so our son uses that as well but compared to him and others in our family l suppose you could call us old fashioned fuddy duddy's.:)

It's only a matter of time before you see the error of your ways, Den! You have to adapt or die in this life, I have found!

denphone 21-07-2016 18:18

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Well l tend to make mistakes and errors every day so one more won't make any difference old boy.:)

muppetman11 21-07-2016 18:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35850607)
So I am with Den in going through the TV magazines, and I record everything worthwhile that I pick up.

Isn't that what the Tivo was supposedly meant to be good at ?

I thought this was supposed to be TiVos biggest selling point , discovering new content. What do you need a tv magazine for ?

I've never bought a tv magazine in years.

johnathome 21-07-2016 23:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mike_gain (Post 35850380)
I be surprised if that figure is sustained. While the current adult demographic are probably more likely to watch linear/live TV the younger generation, the current 5-16 age group will be more at home streaming content.

Well i'm over 50 and 90% of my viewing is streaming, the only things i watch live are the news and sports. The TV will be on as background noise and i half watch it. Right now i'm surfing the web and deadliest catch is playing, the amount of adverts reminds me why i watch the way i do.

As an aside, quite happy to keep paying the licence fee as the Mrs is a bit technically challenged and prefers linear.

OLD BOY 22-07-2016 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35850614)
Isn't that what the Tivo was supposedly meant to be good at ?

I thought this was supposed to be TiVos biggest selling point , discovering new content. What do you need a tv magazine for ?

I've never bought a tv magazine in years.

I wouldn't rely on the Tivo to guess everything I'd like recorded. In fact, I've missed one or two series before that I was lucky enough not to miss when they were repeated. The suggestions are just a useful back up and are not to be relied upon.

However, I have certainly been impressed by the way Tivo remembers your series links and without fail picks up the next series shown. That is a very useful trick the Tivo performs. I don't think the Sky + HD box does this.

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Originally Posted by johnathome (Post 35850649)
Well i'm over 50 and 90% of my viewing is streaming, the only things i watch live are the news and sports. The TV will be on as background noise and i half watch it. Right now i'm surfing the web and deadliest catch is playing, the amount of adverts reminds me why i watch the way i do.

As an aside, quite happy to keep paying the licence fee as the Mrs is a bit technically challenged and prefers linear.

So you don't bother recording your preferred programmes from linear TV? I think you are unnecessarily reducing your choice by not doing so. Fast forwarding through the commercials is not really a pain - very little time is wasted by doing so.

muppetman11 22-07-2016 11:20

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I was referring to the whole search and discover thing rather than just Suggestions.

I'm not sure what the sections on Tivo are called but on Sky Q you have Top Picks , New Series , For you , featured , more like this etc it's nearly impossible to miss a show these days. These features are mirrored on the mobile apps also.

passingbat 22-07-2016 12:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35850673)
on Sky Q you have Top Picks , New Series , For you , featured , more like this etc it's nearly impossible to miss a show these days. .

Is that also available on the Sky+ box?

Now TV added that functionality a little while ago. Not something I use, but useful for some people I guess.

Personally I use the Premier dates list on TV Wise, and the email updates from this thread for Now TV box sets removal and additions:

http://community.nowtv.com/t5/Entert.../388177#M23022

theone2k10 22-07-2016 14:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35850682)
Is that also available on the Sky+ box?

Now TV added that functionality a little while ago. Not something I use, but useful for some people I guess.

Personally I use the Premier dates list on TV Wise, and the email updates from this thread for Now TV box sets removal and additions:

http://community.nowtv.com/t5/Entert.../388177#M23022

I use this site myself you can mark of each episode as you watch them and it will send alerts to your iphone or android phone (don't know about windows) http://www.tvshowtime.com/en/user/2435515/calendar

zantarous 22-07-2016 22:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Horizon (Post 35850599)
As I have said before, I do not expect the likes of Netflix to survive another ten years, I assume the big media companies would have bought them out by then/launched their own streaming services. But we are in a new world.

I don't think the studios have it them, Netflix is here for the long haul and is far too ahead of the competition now, US studios are still stuck in a old world of thinking which is very US focused. None of them will be willing to roll out a world wide streaming service, and if one of them did what would they show, just movies and TV shows from their own catalogue? Not only can Netflix cut deals with all the studios they can also commission top quality drama of their own.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35850666)
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So you don't bother recording your preferred programmes from linear TV? I think you are unnecessarily reducing your choice by not doing so. Fast forwarding through the commercials is not really a pain - very little time is wasted by doing so.

I don't think this is a true at all, all the shows I want to watch are available on one of the three services that I sub to all at less cost then the XL pack. No multi room cost and I can watch on what device I want where I want over whatever connection happens to be available. Why tie myself to a box that is connected to my living room TV only? The only reason I have a Tivo is VM didn't want to take it back. They only use it has gotten in the last year and half is all the referendum stuff and the Euros. Otherwise it is all streaming.

Your right forwarding through the adds consumes very little time, but not having to forward through them wastes even less time and more importantly you don't get brought out of the moment when watching something dramatic.

OLD BOY 27-07-2016 20:04

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Wurl Network brings OTT channels to cable boxes

I would hope that with its renewed emphasis on content, Virgin Media content chiefs will be actively seeking out opportunities like this to increase their offering.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201607264...#axzz4FdYoZ5Xh

In what is being billed as the launch of the first streaming cable TV network, Wurl has unveiled the Wurl Network.

The network provides five channels of 24/7 programming, featuring shows produced by various digital and traditional media brands. Wurl's channels are broadband-delivered through cable TV operators' Internet-connected set-top boxes and appear in operators' on-screen guides – just like legacy cable channels.

The available channels are the Alt Channel, Streaming News Network, The Sports Feed, Baeble Music TV and the Popcornflix Channel. So far, they have been integrated with pay-TV systems in use by more than 50 operators serving over 13 million homes. Viewers can fast-forward and rewind any show, binge view multiple episodes, and watch any programme on-demand at any time.

“We're helping cable operators do two things - deliver new programming and create a new cable channel experience that offers deep engagement,” explained Sean Doherty, Wurl CEO and co-founder. "In an entertainment environment where viewers demand control and choice, Wurl provides cable operators with new channels that deliver the programming and the on-demand experience that viewers want.”

“We are excited to be offering Wurl's channels to our subscribers,” added Loren King, product manager at Fidelity Communications, a multi-system cable operator based in Missouri. “We now have a new source of programming and new interactive viewing features that will give us a competitive edge.”

Mad Max 27-07-2016 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851475)
Wurl Network brings OTT channels to cable boxes

I would hope that with its renewed emphasis on content, Virgin Media content chiefs will be actively seeking out opportunities like this to increase their offering.

http://www.rapidtvnews.com/201607264...#axzz4FdYoZ5Xh

In what is being billed as the launch of the first streaming cable TV network, Wurl has unveiled the Wurl Network.

The network provides five channels of 24/7 programming, featuring shows produced by various digital and traditional media brands. Wurl's channels are broadband-delivered through cable TV operators' Internet-connected set-top boxes and appear in operators' on-screen guides – just like legacy cable channels.

The available channels are the Alt Channel, Streaming News Network, The Sports Feed, Baeble Music TV and the Popcornflix Channel. So far, they have been integrated with pay-TV systems in use by more than 50 operators serving over 13 million homes. Viewers can fast-forward and rewind any show, binge view multiple episodes, and watch any programme on-demand at any time.

“We're helping cable operators do two things - deliver new programming and create a new cable channel experience that offers deep engagement,” explained Sean Doherty, Wurl CEO and co-founder. "In an entertainment environment where viewers demand control and choice, Wurl provides cable operators with new channels that deliver the programming and the on-demand experience that viewers want.”

“We are excited to be offering Wurl's channels to our subscribers,” added Loren King, product manager at Fidelity Communications, a multi-system cable operator based in Missouri. “We now have a new source of programming and new interactive viewing features that will give us a competitive edge.”

I'm surprised at your comments re above OB, I thought you liked quality shows, what they seem to be offering is just more dross imo!

RichardCoulter 28-07-2016 00:45

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VM CEO said today that he wants VM customers to have access to everything, but that they are not going to spend billions on exclusive content.

"Netflix is more friend than foe as customers need broadband to access it".

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...l#post35851503

OLD BOY 28-07-2016 09:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35851500)
I'm surprised at your comments re above OB, I thought you liked quality shows, what they seem to be offering is just more dross imo!

It's not that bad though, Max.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...le-tv-network/

I'm not sure that there is a lot there for me personally, but I would have thought a lot of VM TV subscribers would appreciate this additional choice.

It looks a lot better than Tru TV, which I would definitely steer well clear of!

RichardCoulter 28-07-2016 14:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35851523)
It's not that bad though, Max.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...le-tv-network/

I'm not sure that there is a lot there for me personally, but I would have thought a lot of VM TV subscribers would appreciate this additional choice.

It looks a lot better than Tru TV, which I would definitely steer well clear of!

The film channel might be ok.

My TiVo has suggested that I try the American version of Nightmare Neighbour From Hell on truTV, so i'm going to give it a go.

OLD BOY 28-07-2016 16:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35851547)
The film channel might be ok.

My TiVo has suggested that I try the American version of Nightmare Neighbour From Hell on truTV, so i'm going to give it a go.

Well, we certainly have plenty of programmes like that to choose from, Richard!

OLD BOY 29-07-2016 15:16

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Olympic Channel launches on 21 August.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...unches-aug-21/

Something else for the content boys to contemplate?

muppetman11 29-07-2016 16:16

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Sky Store launches Box Sets to Buy & Keep
Quote:

The service is available today on skystore.com and the Sky Store app on mobiles, tablets, NOW TV, Roku and YouView boxes. Box Sets in Sky Store are rolling out to Sky boxes and by the end of September all Sky customers will be able to Buy & Keep Box Sets in Sky Store.

Sky Store adds the latest movies direct from the cinema to buy or rent. Buy & Keep transactions are up 86% year-on-year with over 3,500 titles now available on the service.
https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...o-buy-and-keep

Mad Max 29-07-2016 16:23

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35851685)
Sky Store launches Box Sets to Buy & Keep

https://corporate.sky.com/media-cent...o-buy-and-keep


Will they still be available to view rather than buy MM?

theone2k10 29-07-2016 16:30

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35851688)
Will they still be available to view rather than buy MM?

If i remember correctly when you buy something from SKY store you get a digital copy too which you can download to your SKY+HD box or view via the sky store app/website.

muppetman11 29-07-2016 16:35

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35851690)
If i remember correctly when you buy something from SKY store you get a digital copy too which you can download to your SKY+HD box or view via the sky store app/website.

You get a digital copy you can download/archive on your box you can also watch on other Sky Store devices , at the moment you get a DVD copy sent through the post although a Blu Ray option is also to be added.

Sky Store can be used on computer , Youview , Roku , Now TV box , Sky+HD , Sky Q , iOS and Android.

In my opinion it's quite pricey although they do have some good offers on from time to time for those wanting the odd purchase or rental.

passingbat 29-07-2016 16:47

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35851692)

In my opinion it's quite pricey although they do have some good offers on from time to time for those wanting the odd purchase or rental.

Agreed. BTW, out of interest, do you know if they will be in 1080p and 5.1 via the black Now TV box?

muppetman11 29-07-2016 17:10

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35851694)
Agreed. BTW, out of interest, do you know if they will be in 1080p and 5.1 via the black Now TV box?

It states 720p on NOW TV, Roku and YouView boxes, Windows 7 (or later), iOS and Android.

1080i on compatible Sky boxes.

I'm pretty sure 5.1 is available via Sky boxes but the others could be just stereo. Obviously you would get 5.1 via your physical copy which comes through the post although being it's DVD for now only SD picture.

I can understand the thinking behind Sky's reluctance to make Now TV 1080p although it should be a given with purchases considering all the other purchase options available have it as standard and digital sales aren't exactly cheap are they. You'd like to think with all the new boxes having 1080p as an option that they'll introduce it at some stage.

theone2k10 29-07-2016 22:12

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35851692)
You get a digital copy you can download/archive on your box you can also watch on other Sky Store devices , at the moment you get a DVD copy sent through the post although a Blu Ray option is also to be added.

Sky Store can be used on computer , Youview , Roku , Now TV box , Sky+HD , Sky Q , iOS and Android.

In my opinion it's quite pricey although they do have some good offers on from time to time for those wanting the odd purchase or rental.

Thanks mate the blu ray will be a good thing if they lower prices a bit, but in fairness Sky store have given a couple of freebies in past too which included the dvd, most recent one i can remember was RIO was free and they sent the dvd too.

passingbat 30-07-2016 12:53

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35851697)
It states 720p on NOW TV, Roku and YouView boxes, Windows 7 (or later), iOS and Android.

1080i on compatible Sky boxes.

I'm pretty sure 5.1 is available via Sky boxes but the others could be just stereo. Obviously you would get 5.1 via your physical copy which comes through the post although being it's DVD for now only SD picture.

I can understand the thinking behind Sky's reluctance to make Now TV 1080p although it should be a given with purchases considering all the other purchase options available have it as standard and digital sales aren't exactly cheap are they. You'd like to think with all the new boxes having 1080p as an option that they'll introduce it at some stage.

I quickly compared a couple of titles on Amazon. They were cheaper and 1080p and 5.1. Ok, so you don't get the DVD; but why would you need it? I rip any DVDs that I buy anyway, to make the content easily accessible via various devices.

I understand why Sky TV shows via Now TV are 720p and stereo, but there is no reason why purchased titles should be limited to that, given that the black Now TV box is capable of 1080p/5.1.


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