Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35642921)

Harry I agree with your initial point , if a significant amount of people cancelled their sports subscriptions then the likes of Sky and BT would be left with no other option than to lower prices but to suggest Sky are the only company to increase prices is quite frankly ludicrous. The last few years we've seen constant increases from all suppliers granted some have been down to Sky (Sky Sports increases) however both VM and BT have also increased prices significantly for things like line rental , XL pack etc in fact all of them have increased prices sometimes considerably over inflation , there all as bad as each other.

Originally Posted by spankysmagicpian (Post 35642906)

New Channel rumour:

From an Sky Viewer poster:

New channel scheduled for '2015' - European SuperLeague TV

Sorry, I can't reveal my source :D

Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35642921)

Harry I agree with your initial point , if a significant amount of people cancelled their sports subscriptions then the likes of Sky and BT would be left with no other option than to lower prices but to suggest Sky are the only company to increase prices is quite frankly ludicrous. The last few years we've seen constant increases from all suppliers granted some have been down to Sky (Sky Sports increases) however both VM and BT have also increased prices significantly for things like line rental , XL pack etc in fact all of them have increased prices sometimes considerably over inflation , there all as bad as each other.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35642944)

Clearly I could not stay away long.:(

Where have I said Sky are the only one who puts prices up on anything other than sports? I have only ever been talking about sporting bills. I genuinely do not remember posting about other price increases, please do quote me where I have, and I will gladly eat humble pie. If you van not find any, please apologize for calling me ludicrous. Lets try not to digress from my original points though please.

Oddly enough I know all companies put their prices up, I do get bills after-all.

My point about Sky is that they should drop Sky Sports bills due to the lack of content. To be clearer, any sports bills that increase will be down to Sky not lowering their sports prices. The increases in sport prices will not be solely down to BT getting rights Sky to content Sky no longer have.

It is up to Sky Sports to pass on savings to sports customers, not jack up the price of PL rights.

Jeez.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35642944)

Clearly I could not stay away long.:(

Where have I said Sky are the only one who puts prices up on anything other than sports? I have only ever been talking about sporting bills. I genuinely do not remember posting about other price increases, please do quote me where I have, and I will gladly eat humble pie. If you van not find any, please apologize for calling me ludicrous. Lets try not to digress from my original points though please.

Oddly enough I know all companies put their prices up, I do get bills after-all.

My point about Sky is that they should drop Sky Sports bills due to the lack of content. To be clearer, any sports bills that increase will be down to Sky not lowering their sports prices. The increases in sport prices will not be solely down to BT getting rights Sky to content Sky no longer have.

It is up to Sky Sports to pass on savings to sports customers, not jack up the price of PL rights.

Jeez.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35642961)

If Virgin Media enabled an 'HD swap' like Sky do, I reckon they could clean up/organise their line up something like this:


Virgin's current channel numbers have gotten so bad that I've actually gone and made a fantasy channel line-up :p

I really do hope they organise it sooner than later.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35642965)

Well channels 1 to 5 will never do a HD swap because of their regionalisation. You forgot BBC Three/Four HD. Also bare in mind when a swap happens the SD version is available on another EPG number.

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35642942)

You're getting the hang of it, but 'scheduled for 2015' was a schoolboy error. Better to leave it as 'coming soon' so that if pressed on a date, you can keep saying 'soon' or 'not long now' ad nauseam. :D

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643034)

Exclusive opinion. BT Sports will fail eventually... inevitably.

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643034)

Exclusive opinion. BT Sports will fail eventually... inevitably.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35642910)

There is a huge difference between stopping Sky Sports ripping people off and trying to lobby the government though. Sky will be hurt by a lack of payment from thousands of people rebelling against the price. If I and thousands of others stop paying taxes, go to Westminister and wave a banner about saying I am not paying any more until we get change, I (we) will be arrested and put in jail. It would take many, many millions to effect the government, and then the army will be bought in. Also we get to vote for a different government every four years.

It's not a pipe dream for me. If people want to pay that's fine, more fool them. They just need to stop blaming other people. it can happen. If a luxury food item was massively over priced few people would pay for it. The shops would then stop selling it or lower the prices. Why accept it for a few football games?

Anyway I am going down the same route as I did yesterday. I give up, everyone is right. The regulators, PL, Sky and BT are all in the wrong. Everyone who pays to keep them making an obscene profit (on sport alone) is a victim and should be treated as one. I am out of this forum for a while. You all have my sympathies for your awful sporting predicaments.

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35643029)

Has any one heard of any rumors or deal that might happen after the netflix roll out is done.

Originally Posted by VirginMediaPhil (Post 35642974)

That was from my perspective - in my region ITV HD shows the same local news as ITV, Granada. BBC Two, Channel 4 and Channel 5 could for sure do an HD swap, they have regional advertising but not regional programming. They already swap on Sky. So really BBC One is the only one that couldn't be HD swapped anywhere because there are no regional HD variants.

I didn't forget BBC Three, Four, News, Parliament, CBBC or CBeebies HD. In my fantasy world the HD channel would replace the SD channel on the EPG but you're right in that it probably technically wouldn't be possible/feasible.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35643058)

I am aware of supply and demand too, it is the very basic side of the point I have been making. (if Sky have no demand, they need to act to improve supply, i.e. price cuts) From which you agreed in post #2800.

I find it galling that you have not acknowledged my last post though. In post #2800 you also accused me of saying I thought Sky are the only company who put prices up, and said the statement (I don't I think I made) was "frankly ludicrous".

I have asked you to quote said posts or apologize. I do not appreciate you putting words into my mouth which have absolutely no basis in fact (that I can remember). I will say again I am happy to be proved wrong, if you can not find the posts, I will gladly accept your apology for putting words in mouth, and making up a fictitious point you decided to attribute towards me.

I also fail to understand to why you would wish to post such nonsense.

For someone who has such a high amount of reputation points, I find it quite staggering, and somewhat arrogant to act in this way.

Again, if you post the quotes where I have said only Sky put prices up and no-one else does I will happily apologize, I really do not mind being embarrassed on an internet forum and will happily accept any punishment the mods may deem necessary for my behaviour.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643053)

I am just annoyed about how the whole system works. Exclusivity deals skew the market and allow monopolistic types to dominate. Such practices should be banned. That way, supply and demand would keep costs lower.

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Yes, new Sky channels are coming.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35643085)

Monday night Tuesday morning for next areas to get updates

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35643085)

Monday night Tuesday morning for next areas to get updates

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643053)

Yes, new Sky channels are coming.

Originally Posted by JustaBloke (Post 35643102)

Soon?... :rolleyes::D

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35643061)

My source has sent me a revised list as it stands no more Sky channels will launch this year. This is subject to change though.

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35643110)

Wasn't that long ago your source suggested otherwise and someone was going to eat their hat. Does you source confirmed what situation has changed that position since then?

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35643108)

Fingers crossed for you both Denphone and Harry hitch ;)

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35643111)

Hopefully we will see the android app around the 18th(

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35643121)

I believe it wilk be nearer end of month as CS training needs rolled out beforehand.

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35643085)

Monday night Tuesday morning for next areas to get updates

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35643121)

I believe it wilk be nearer end of month as CS training needs rolled out beforehand.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35643140)

hope we get it here

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35643132)

CS probably won't need any training, at a guess it will be the same as the iPhone/iPad app

Originally Posted by howardmicks (Post 35643174)

I was told that originally but been told different today and nialli's is reporting the same on his blog[COLOR="Silver"]

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35643185)

after the updates all done hopefully get some new channels too

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35643187)

Yeah, hopefully.. remember all the missing Sky channels we are to get will be here before the end of the 'Autumn'.. 20 days to go!
:D

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35643110)

Wasn't that long ago your source suggested otherwise and someone was going to eat their hat. Does you source confirmed what situation has changed that position since then?

Originally Posted by Dash: CF noob (Post 35643209)

41 Days and counting............

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35643221)

No its 45 days till Christmas.:D

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35643219)

Yeah i think they are getting false information tbf and are just passing that on. I'm waiting for another source to confirm this that's why i put "subject to change" in the post. Slowly i'm starting to distrust my source if i'm honest.

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35643229)

think he means 41 till end of autumn Den as winter starts 21st December

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so are you starting to think I am right about the sky channels mate

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 35643237)

Wont be long till Atlantic comes now eh.....................yawns!

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35643229)

think he means 41 till end of autumn Den as winter starts 21st December

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so are you starting to think I am right about the sky channels mate

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35643249)

I think they are coming yes but i think nobody really knows when. My other source has just got back to me and has said what she said before by end of 2013.

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35643263)

So Jan 31 2013 (that a Tuesday night as well) could be a very big night then
;)

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35643251)

I think it's gonna be netflix only this year to come and some minor channels. But heck what a brilliant year for us all on in terms of channels !

Originally Posted by Anypermitedroute (Post 35643282)

Couldn't agree more, the only way 2014 can compete with 2013 will be the rest of sky channels and HD sports we are missing

Originally Posted by blue666666 (Post 35643263)

So Jan 31 2013 (that a Tuesday night as well) could be a very big night then
;)

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35643251)

I think it's gonna be netflix only this year to come and some minor channels. But heck what a brilliant year for us all on in terms of channels !

Originally Posted by martin201002 (Post 35643409)

Only thing this week will be TiVo updates.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35643473)

Sky Atlantic rumoured to arrive February 6th according to Customer Service agent.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...29&postcount=1

(Take it with a pinch of salt)

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35643481)

Customer Services (nor anyone else actually) haven't had any brief about Sky Atlantic.

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35643518)

Not tv but wth lol looks like those on 60mb broadband will be getting a speed increase to 100mb at no extra cost.

Originally Posted by harry_hitch (Post 35643065)

I am not a fan of it either, but if Sky/VM/BT pump money into channels, why should they not reap the benefits from it?

We all pay our money and make our choices. If people are unhappy, that is their right, but people can make a different choice. They change something, or put up with their choice. Why moan about it on here, what good does it do? Such points would put to far better use in an e-mail to Sky/VM/BT.[COLOR="Silver"]

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35643473)

Sky Atlantic rumoured to arrive February 6th according to Customer Service agent.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...29&postcount=1

(Take it with a pinch of salt)

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643528)

I can now confirmed that Christmas will be on December 25th this year.:D

Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 35643520)

Thread about that over here http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/12...ng-2014-a.html

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35643061)

My source has sent me a revised list as it stands no more Sky channels will launch this year. This is subject to change though.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643528)

I can now confirmed that Christmas will be on December 25th this year.:D

Originally Posted by paultrademark (Post 35643187)

Yeah, hopefully.. remember all the missing Sky channels we are to get will be here before the end of the 'Autumn'.. 20 days to go!
:D

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35643249)

I think they are coming yes but i think nobody really knows when. My other source has just got back to me and has said what she said before by end of 2013.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643536)

If true, this would presumably be because of other VM priorities that are technically difficult. Is your source absolutely clear about this, because I don't think Sky or VM want anything to leak out about the launch of the missing Sky channels. Therefore, they won't be discussing this freely within the Virgin Media offices, it will be very hush hush. Just because your contact doesn't know about this doesn't mean it won't happen.

Originally Posted by ocav (Post 35643473)

Sky Atlantic rumoured to arrive February 6th according to Customer Service agent.

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showp...29&postcount=1

(Take it with a pinch of salt)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643544)

They know nothing, ocav, so I certainly will!

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35643546)

I can see what's been done here. SKY Atlantic launched on the 1st February 2011. It's just about to turn 3 years old. The 6th of February is the first available Thursday after SKY Atlantic turns 3, Thursday being a regular launch date for new channels on the Virgin Media platform.

Someone has put a lot of time, effort and thought into this lie.

Originally Posted by Chad (Post 35643546)

I can see what's been done here. SKY Atlantic launched on the 1st February 2011. It's just about to turn 3 years old. The 6th of February is the first available Thursday after SKY Atlantic turns 3, Thursday being a regular launch date for new channels on the Virgin Media platform.

Someone has put a lot of time, effort and thought into this lie.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643552)

Well spotted, Chad! I shall be annoyed personally if the Sky deal isn't brought to fruition this year, because that was the original intention. I do know that VM have got a lot on at the moment, but deferring that launch would be most disappointing. Until I hear something credible to the contrary, I am still saying that the missing Sky channels should be with us this autumn.

Can I guarantee it? Of course I can't, because stuff happens, as we have seen on a number of occasions recently (Fox + was the most obvious example of where VM fully intended a launch which was then deferred, and deferred again). Dates get pencilled in, but the trouble with pencils is you can rub the writing out again!

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643561)

No Sky Channels was on the list of channels set to launch by 2014 given to me on November 3rd by an Virgin Insider I know.

As of time of posting only more TiVo updates is set to happen this week.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35643589)

l am sure that will give them a bit of Christmas cheer after their recent mauling by BT.

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643590)

Oh Den really is hardly a mauling...

;-)

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643591)

One of my ex Rumour posters told me last month that Sky Movies is maybe set to offer an 'Free week' sometime next month.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643591)

One of my ex Rumour posters told me last month that Sky Movies is maybe set to offer an 'Free week' sometime next month.

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643595)

Worried maybe but the BT bidding policy is ridiculous...... way over the top. Waste of money and BT customers will suffer for it.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643596)

As an 'ex' he still seems to be willing!

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643590)

Oh Den really is hardly a mauling...

;-)

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35643596)

As an 'ex' he still seems to be willing!

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35643602)

In my humble opinion this is the start of quite a few sports rights battles that Sky will lose as BT have much bigger pockets then Sky and they are in it for the long run too.

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643603)

As of November 8th I will not be posting 'Rumours' anymore.

The rumour posted today was given to me last month.

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35643602)

In my humble opinion this is the start of quite a few sports rights battles that Sky will lose as BT have much bigger pockets then Sky and they are in it for the long run too.

Originally Posted by Henkesghost (Post 35643606)

:erm:it's the 11th

Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 35643607)

hopefully get the update tonight

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643609)

I know I am no longer posting 'Rumours' from last Friday night at Midnight.

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@theone2k10

Thanks for that updated list of channels that may launch by 2014.

Originally Posted by Doug P (Post 35643608)

the battle of the humble opinions! I think the BT bubble will burst eventually... their pockets are big but the customers will soon realised just how much their so-called free sport is costing them....

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 35643613)

Any reason MB? I do like hearing rumours and I don't hold you to them as it's quite obvious you're saying "rumours". Ignore people who get worked up over their inability to read posts clearly

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35643616)

Just trying to move away from posting rumour posts and just post confirmed news - that all.

Originally Posted by gizuk (Post 35643597)

In December... really?