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LOL I love all this will they won't they stuff :)
Look, I want VM to get BT as much as the next person BUT if we got it and it was standalone people would complain...if it meant a £5 on the sports package a month people would complain...if we didn't get it at all people would complain. There is no lack of info from VM this time round, they keep saying they are in active talks, confirmed by BT, so what more can we ask for. The closer we get to the new PL season the more itchy BT will get. They know full well they need VM custom just as much as VM need BT sport. A deal will be done, but if VM play hardball right up until PL starts they may get a better deal! Don't expect anything tomorrow. |
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While all the previous talk about 'secret deals' is obviously nonsense, it is in both sides' interest to let negotiations run to the wire (and possibly beyond), in order to judge the customer take up of BT's service.
Obviously if that is significantly less than planned, then BT will be under pressure to accept a lower price than would otherwise be the case. Virgin have repeatedly shown themselves unwilling to pay over the odds or be held to ransom - from the Sky Basics situation, ITV HD channels, Sky Atlantic, etc etc. If a price is agreed, a deal can be done very quickly, if not it won't, it's as simple as that. Both sides are preparing the ground for either eventuality. |
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What's going to happen to the ESPN slot on Freeview? Anyone know?
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Well according to VMs super communications that some people on here think are great, I can still watch all my favourite ESPN channels until the end of July. Game on!
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tbh i would have problem paying extra 5 pound a month for it if it less than sky tv subscribers pay defo would i am hope we have it by saturday to watch liverpool game if not pub for me
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If you check the other question which was "Will it ever be on VM?" The answer form BT exactly the same as the 1st time. "It is not available on Virgin Media" ...er yep we know it's not NOW lol. Means nothing! |
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Exactly! BT have issued a statement that they are in talks. NOT that BT sports won't be available!
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BT Sport launch to be free and open to all
BT says the launch of its new BT Sport channels will be available free to all homes with Freeview, TV from BT or Sky. Launching tomorrow (August 1st), the channels will offer football fans 38 Barclays Premier League matches per season. Broadcast from the Olympic Park in East London, they’ll also carry exclusive Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) coverage and 800 hours of live tennis, including the TEB BNP Paribas WTA Championships. The channels will get underway with a special first night live show featuring many of their presenters, experts, commentators plus special guests. Featured talent will include Jake Humphrey, Clare Balding, Craig Doyle, Michael Owen, Steve McManaman, David James, Owen Hargreaves, Matt Dawson, Lynsey Hipgrave, Gary McAllister, Martin Bayfield, Anne Keothavong, Kim Little, Scott Redding, Neil Hodgson, Darrell Currie, Darren Fletcher, Sam Smith, Rosi Sexton, John Hathaway, Christian Howes, Des Kelly, Tom Watt, Caroline DeMoraes, Ian Darke, Ray Stubbs, Austin Healey, Ben Kay, Sarra Elgan, Eniola Aluko and Helen Skelton. BT says the show will simulcast on BT Sport 1 and BT Sport 2 until the moment the two channels become independent. Viewers will then see Jake Humphrey heading to the football studio to cover the Audi Cup on BT Sport 1 and Craig Doyle in the BT Sport rugby studio covering the JP Morgan Asset Management 7s on BT Sport 2. Announcing the ‘free to all’ launch, John Petter, managing director, BT Retail Consumer, said: “It’s finally a reality that ‘Great sport happens here’. It’s just over a year since we secured our Barclays Premier League rights and only six months since we started to build our exciting new studio in the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park. We have some tremendously talented presenters and experts who are passionate about sport. “The customers are the ones that matter and now they will be able to see the programmes for themselves. We‘re convinced they’re going to like what they see, and we’re absolutely committed to making BT Sport fun, innovative and a firm favourite with the fans.” BT is offering the channels free to all broadband customers online and via smartphone and tablet apps. In addition, customers with a BT Vision+ or YouView from BT set top box and infinity broadband will be able to watch the channels on their TVs. The company is also making the channels available for free to its broadband customers who have a Sky+ box and to Sky broadband and TV subscribers in return for a monthly fee. No carriage deal has been agreed with broadband rival Virgin Media. http://www.seenit.co.uk/bt-sport-lau...o-all/0729176/ |
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I am excited about tomorrow :D
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IF, BT Sports is NOT on VM by the time the football season starts - l will stand by my word and switch over to Sky.
I will not be treated in a disgraceful manner by a company that wants things on the cheap, when at the end of the day it will be us in the end that pays for it. At the end of the day - l as the customer, not some low life in the street. VM did this with us over the basic package, and its about time VM realised that without customers, they would not be in business. |
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Arthur you had Sky before and you did not think much of it.:erm:
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I'm not down to expecting everything on the cheap. I think BT themselves have maybe cheapened the product making it free. They could have gone about it in a different way with offers but when you give it for free, it can't be expected that others will offer a good price for it.
I would think that Virgin Media are looking at it this way. No way is anyone going to make any money out of it, not enough people will want to pay for it. |
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You should say "I am not a big boy" And don't worry, I don't think any less of you :D |
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Arthur originally said he would leave by tomorrow if VM didn't have it by the time it launched. He's now giving it until the 17th. Are you actually going to jump ship Arthur?
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BT rally kept on and on at me to try to get me to keep my BT Vision box so I could watch their new sport stuff. They didn't seem to think I want interested. I do have the you view box coming but promised I'd have a look at their app just to stop them going on about it.
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http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/226289.html Its look like Bale is going for 85 million, but Modric is rejoining Spurs as part of the deal.
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I can still get all the ESPN channels I love for the next 2 hours and 54 minutes. Game on! C'mon VM, at least tell us something we can hang on to. Like it might not be tomorrow but we're still working hard on your behalf to get a deal.
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ESPN gone... All gone... No more College Football, MLB, UFC until VM finally get the deal done *crosses fingers*
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The videos of the studios look really good. Just wish we had access to it :(
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If I had the chance to speak to the Virgin Media hierarchy I would suggest they spend a few hours reading through this Forum just to get a feel of the confidence in them that stilll exists with these Customers,even in the light of this latest debacle over BT Sports. To all of you still loyal customers I for one applaud you :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: and sincerely hope you all get what you thoroughly deserve in the very near future (hopefully before the start of the new Premiership season.......:) ps Be gentle on me as I am a Liverpool FC season ticket holder....;) |
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I quite believe the VM bosses do look through these pages from time to time,they know the score all right.
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Maybe someone should tweet a link to the coming soon thread to Virgin, just incase they are not 100% clear on how angry their sports loving customers are. |
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their underlings may look but the bosses are too busy on the golf course pretending to care.
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proof they are on the golfcourse (again check the posh golf course near HQ could be 40% true ) do they care (almost 100% they don't care) although my post was in jest the VM die hard's will take it to heart. |
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If it helps everyone, I am willing to let all of you live vicariously through me, and my excitement of BT Sport (and ESPN)
Right now, tv turned over to ESPN to see the third place play off of the Audi cup |
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I have spoken with CS at 5pm, as we can nio longer get ESPN, although its part of the package we are on.
We have been told that they are still locked in talks and are NOT prepared to say anything else. BT Sports starts tonight at 6pm, so it looks like we are not getting it. VM are a disgrace for this, they tell you to contact there website and register your interest, but that is all they will say. This is supposed to be a company with good customer relations - absolutely crap. |
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Too strong Arthur... that word you use would be apt if they weren't bothering.
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I will get something to eat soon too (thought I would give you the whole "Colin watching BT sport experience") :D |
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Doug, I can assure you that l don't mince my words with anyone.
I have told many companies over the years what l think of them, l am paying for a service, through hard earned money to watch Tv channels - and my big sport is football. I work in customer service, and yet VM have now taken channels off ie ESPN, which is part of a package that l pay for - we they give me a reduction in my bill. Of course they won't. I can assure you that if BT Sport is not on by the time the Premier League kicks off, then that is it. I had a quarrel with VM over the numbers that appear on our screen and as VM would not give me a valid reason, l called Sky, they got VM, to call me, and they blatantly told me that it could be ME that is streaming live games to other houses. Thats why l am a straight talker and say what l think. |
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BT Sport is now available on UPC Ireland for £13.97 a month
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I work in customer service too... let's agree to disagree on that.
I hope you find more satisfaction on the other side. I am just quietly pleased not to have had to pay for ESPN for however many years it is. If BT Sport turns up on XL great, but doubt it. Won't be moving from VM as they have been excellent for me and I find their CS pretty good all in all certainly compared to BT who are bordering on dire imo.... |
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why is it that members think they got espn free in xl. we have lost 4 sports channels if u include HD as a channel and had no replacement I for one ain't happy. if bt cable was ere I would move instead I will prob downgrade. |
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I did not say I thought it was free in XL I said it was a bonus to have it....
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All we hear is VM are in talks.... Are they in talks where a dedicated negotiating team are meeting or conferencing each day, or is someone from VM leaving the manager of BT sport a message with the latest offer and waiting till they can be bothered getting back to him?
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Im watching BT Sport 1 HD :D:D:D
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still no new eh?
despite my comments a couple of days ago (some 100 pages or so!!)i have succumbed to temptation and posted again. i am trying to look at any positives in this. From the press releases so far it would appear BT would like BT Sports on VM (access to potentially 4M subscribers) and VM would like BT Sports on it s platform (to keep its customers happy and feel they are getting as good as if not comparable service to Sky) Both sides want it to happen so clearly its down to £££ and both sides trying to get the best deal for themselves(understandable) BT struck its deal with Sky some time ago- £12 pm or £15pm with HD ( though i think you sign up with BT direct not through Sky) You would have thought that same terms would have been on the table to VM ?? I know VM dont like channels doing their own deals - i think thats one reason we never got Premier Sports. I think getting BT sports would be more important to VM than Premier Sports ever was. so i read that as VM trying to secure a better deal ( i will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that includes to the benefit of its customers) so maybe it will eventually come to VM but VM are wanting to get a better deal than Sky ie have the cost absorbed maybe into its XL pricing (in full or partially)- either way not at the price Sky got. i shall check back in another 100 pages or so and see if anything has actually happened yet. |
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BT didn't 'do a deal' with Sky, Sky had no say in the matter. The same deal isn't happening on VM because there is no way for BT to direct sell without it going through VM.
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doesnt Sky have a say on what channels are available on its platform and what channels are on its epg?
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Watched BT Sports now for 90 minutes and I'm fairly impressed.
The studio with the digital floor is a great addition. The presenters have a fairly relaxed style which is comfortable to watch . Owen Hargreaves isn't a natural on camera :) |
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glad people like bt sport. the first thirty minutes was not to my taste but the football coverage is not bad...
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Sky don't have to list a channel on their epg, I remember when itv HD wasn't listed and needed to be manually tuned.
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I think that was cause ITV was on Freesat only so you could only get it on Sky by manually tuning. Sky is an open platform. If someone pays, they are obliged to show the channel. Hence all those 900 channels you don't get in Virgin.
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Do people think that BT Sport can rival Sky Sports for the long haul?
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Come on VM, do something for us loyal customers and sports fans!
ESPN gone, BT Sports not available (yet), still waiting on Sky Atlantic, still waiting on Universal HD plus a few others and then to top it all off there will be a £3+ rise on Sky Sports collection come October! Unfortunately VM are currently outdoing themselves in making Sky TV look more and more attractive, especially with all the 12 month half price codes doing the rounds. Come on VM, get your game face back on and use some of that LG money to fight back! :bsmack: |
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On a side note,I registered for BT Sports a couple of months ago with Sky and it would only accept one of my Sky cards (I have multi-room),when I inquired I was told I could only have it on my primary card,but I am receiving BT Sports 1 and 2 and ESPN on both box's which is better for me but not what I was told.
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Quite Impressed good picture sound watching espn hd on sky
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If you are thinking of switching, read this:
http://www.theguardian.com/money/201...tball-coverage My personal suspicion is that BT have greatly overestimated demand for, and value of, their product. Hence Virgin holding back on committing to paying silly money for it. May be a lever to try a get some sort of deal from Retentions, though... |
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I had to laugh at the flyer that came through my door this morning. From Virgin Media saying how great the sports content on VM is.
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