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colin25 31-01-2012 07:39

Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35372481)

what has become of QPR..a nancy boy and a cisse? :D

denphone 31-01-2012 11:41

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16811307.stm

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Queens Park Rangers are in talks with Fulham to sign striker Bobby Zamora.

The England forward has been linked with a move aaway from Craven Cottage and it is understood that former Fulham boss Mark Hughes has made an approach.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16807982.stm

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Manchester City are working on a deal to sign Chile midfielder David Pizarro, 32, on a free loan from Roma for the rest of the season.

City boss Roberto Mancini coached Pizarro at Inter Milan and would like to bolster his midfield for the Premier League title run-in.

Pizarro arrived in Italy from Santiago in 1998 and played for Udinese for five years before joining Inter

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16785501.stm

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Bolton Wanderers have made an improved £7m offer for Crystal Palace winger Wilfried Zaha.

Trotters boss Owen Coyle confirmed that an initial bid for the 19-year-old had been lodged on Tuesday, but added that the two clubs were not in agreement over the player's valuation.

"I don't think it is to the value that the Crystal Palace chairman wants," said Coyle after the first bid.

"But it is an offer we felt was fair for a very talented young player
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16721393.stm

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Chelsea have completed the signing of Genk winger Kevin de Bruyne for a fee believed to be £6.7m.

The 20-year-old has signed five-and-a-half-year contract at Stamford Bridge, but will be loaned back to the Belgian side for the rest of the season.

He told the club website: "To come to a team like Chelsea is a dream but now I have to work hard to achieve the level that's necessary."

Meanwhile, Blues striker Philipp Prosenik, 18, has joined AC Milan.

The Austrian has moved to the San Siro for an undisclosed fee

thenry 31-01-2012 12:33

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Arsenal have signed Thomas Eisfeld from Borussia Dortmund. A 19 year old, passed his medical this morning and is now training with the first team....

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...thomas-eisfeld

denphone 31-01-2012 12:36

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35372696)
Arsenal have signed Thomas Eisfeld from Borussia Dortmund. A 19 year old, passed his medical this morning and is now training with the first team....

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/footbal...thomas-eisfeld

Well Arsene is very good at picking up rough young diamonds and turning them into polished jewels.

thenry 31-01-2012 12:42

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Hope so. Dortmund have a selection of young talent in midfield so grabbing this lad for next to nothing isn't surprising.. sort of. hope he comes good.

In other news Ryo Miyaichi has gone on loan to Bolton and Arshavin is apparently in talks with billionaire Russian side Anzhi...

Damien 31-01-2012 12:46

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Arshavin out, Gotze in, damien happy.

denphone 31-01-2012 12:48

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35372718)
Arshavin out, Gotze in, damien happy.

What about Hazard?.

Damien 31-01-2012 12:51

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35372720)
What about Hazard?.

Hazard not leaving until end of season. He said so yesterday/weekend.

Julian 31-01-2012 14:43

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Shock Transfer

Damien 31-01-2012 14:47

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Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35372801)

Lol, very good...

thenry 31-01-2012 14:48

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so greedy..

another shocker

TheDaddy 31-01-2012 15:05

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Liverpool sign Bent

Alan Fry 31-01-2012 15:06

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So will Wayne Rooney be leaving Man U then?

denphone 31-01-2012 15:40

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35372816)
Liverpool sign Bent



Nice one:D:D

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16810475

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Tottenham Hotspur Football Club has confirmed it will stay in the area after funding pledges from Haringey Council and the London Mayor.

Subject to approval, Haringey will invest £9m and Boris Johnson has committed £18m for mass regeneration.

Spurs chairman Daniel Levy said public funding strengthened the club's ability to deliver a new stadium scheme.

Last year, the club abandoned plans to move to the Olympic Stadium after the Games.

Spurs has committed to progressing the Northumberland Development Project (NDP), which could bring a modern football stadium, new homes, shops and leisure facilities to Tottenham

Alan Fry 31-01-2012 16:14

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35372823)
Nice one:D:D

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-16810475

That is good news!

They would have to become Stratford Hotspur!

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Portsmouth FC cannot afford to pay wages to its player over winding up order!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16797287.stm

Russ 31-01-2012 21:40

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Come on Swans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Come on Swans, 10 minutes away from our greatest win ever!!!!!

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So close :cry:

denphone 31-01-2012 22:02

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Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35373078)
Come on Swans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Come on Swans, 10 minutes away from our greatest win ever!!!!!

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So close :cry:

Well Swansea have certainly been the surprise package this season and have also been a credit to the Premiership as well.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9691082.stm


Premier League Scores

Everton1-0Man City

Man Utd2-0Stoke

Swansea1-1Chelsea

Tottenham3-1Wigan

Wolves0-3Liverpool


Excellent results for the teams in red.

Russ 31-01-2012 22:04

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The title race has been blown open by the funky Gibson :D

Shadow Demon UK 31-01-2012 22:12

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Darron Gibson you beaut. Always said he was class...

denphone 01-02-2012 12:55

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/foo...-fracture.html

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Arsenal hopeful Jack Wilshere will play again this season following confirmation of second ankle fracture

Jack Wilshere has suffered a second stress fracture to his ankle, although Arsenal believe that it is still feasible for him to play again this season.

Alan Fry 01-02-2012 13:00

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I think the the title will be going to Manchester, which one though is another matter

denphone 01-02-2012 13:09

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Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35373394)
I think the the title will be going to Manchester, which one though is another matter

Well looking at current form l would say United

denphone 01-02-2012 15:44

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16839801

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Leeds United have sacked manager Simon Grayson after three years in charge at Elland Road.

Youth team boss Neil Redfearn has been placed in temporary control of first-team affairs.

The former Leeds trainee's final match as United boss saw the club slump to a 4-1 defeat at home to promotion rivals Birmingham City .

Former Sheffield United and Queens Park Rangers boss Neil Warnock has been linked with the post.

Tuesday's defeat by Birmingham leaves Leeds in 10th place in the Championship, three points off the play-offs.

Grayson left Blackpool to take over at Elland Road in December 2008 following the sacking of Gary McAllister .

adzii_nufc 01-02-2012 20:34

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Will the FA please wake up for heavens sake. Hoilett's dive against Newcastle was absolutely pathetic and should be punished as with many others as this is way way past a joke now. Plain disgusting cheating is taking over this league.

adzii_nufc 02-02-2012 21:50

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Seems Racism just wont go away this year.

Shola Ameobi has been subject to racial abuse months after brother Sammy was too.

Ever since the cases of Suarez and Terry this is happening more and more as if its acceptable.

denphone 02-02-2012 21:54

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35374458)
Seems Racism just wont go away this year.

Shola Ameobi has been subject to racial abuse months after brother Sammy was too.

Ever since the cases of Suarez and Terry this is happening more and more as if its acceptable.

Its disgraceful and l hear that Djibril Cisse has suffered racial abuse on Twitter as well adzil.:(

sherer 02-02-2012 22:24

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is it happening more or are we jst get more cases reported now ?

I agree it should be stamped out and it seems at least now players aren't in fear of reporting this

Uncle Peter 02-02-2012 23:12

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Originally Posted by sherer (Post 35374475)
is it happening more or are we jst get more cases reported now ?

I agree it should be stamped out and it seems at least now players aren't in fear of reporting this

Well it's always been something of a problem, perhaps not to the same extent as some countries in Eastern Europe which have no real concept of ethnic integration. Just that the FA are now using the issue as a political tool against their enemy FIFA (Blatter inparticular).

Remember that the issue of racially motivated abuse was previously dismissed as something which could be sorted out with a mere apology by the PFA mouthpiece, idiot and hypocrite Gordon Taylor

adzii_nufc 03-02-2012 00:27

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Originally Posted by Uncle Peter (Post 35374493)
Well it's always been something of a problem, perhaps not to the same extent as some countries in Eastern Europe which have no real concept of ethnic integration. Just that the FA are now using the issue as a political tool against their enemy FIFA (Blatter inparticular).

Remember that the issue of racially motivated abuse was previously dismissed as something which could be sorted out with a mere apology by the PFA mouthpiece, idiot and hypocrite Gordon Taylor

Forgetting Sepp Blatter?

Uncle Peter 03-02-2012 00:36

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Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35374505)
Forgetting Sepp Blatter?

He's most probably worse than them all.

denphone 03-02-2012 07:00

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16866149

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The Football Association is set to remove the England captaincy from John Terry, with an announcement before the weekend, the BBC has learned.

FA chairman David Bernstein has spoken to board members and the majority view is Terry should be stood down. He would still be available for selection.

It would be the second time Terry has been stripped of the captaincy.

Alan Fry 03-02-2012 09:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35374458)
Seems Racism just wont go away this year.

Shola Ameobi has been subject to racial abuse months after brother Sammy was too.

Ever since the cases of Suarez and Terry this is happening more and more as if its acceptable.

It time the FA lauched a crackdown on Racism!!! :mad:

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374527)

I feel that John Terry is a idiot!

denphone 03-02-2012 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35374571)
It time the FA lauched a crackdown on Racism!!! :mad:

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I feel that John Terry is a idiot!

Remember a person is not guilty until proven.

Alan Fry 03-02-2012 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374576)
Remember a person is not guilty until proven.

I am not suggesting that John Terry is a racist, but he has done some stupid things!

Saaf_laandon_mo 03-02-2012 11:50

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374576)
Remember a person is not guilty until proven.


I don't see the big deal in stripping his captaincy. I actually think they should have gone further and not let him play for England.

If I am suspected of misconduct in my job I would be suspended on full pay pending an investigation - probably the same in a lot of workin environments.

The England captain (and in fact playign for England) is a role that has an associated responsibility. To be honest given Terry's past history of doing silly things I would have taken the captaincy away from him a lot sooner.

I also donot understand why a high profile case is being defered till the summer.

denphone 03-02-2012 17:24

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16873045

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Chelsea manager Andre Villas-Boas has told Jose Mourinho there is no job for him at Stamford Bridge.

Villas-Boas reaffirmed his commitment to the Blues after reports claimed the Real Madrid boss wanted a return to the Premier League next season.

"A manager who makes himself available to return to his beloved England will capture the interest for sure," admitted Villas-Boas.

"At the moment there isn't a vacancy at this club."

adzii_nufc 03-02-2012 17:32

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Jose Mourinho expected to leave Madrid in the summer.

a pick of Clubs he could go to.

Manchester City - Obvious reasons. He has the money to buy the players he wants and I believe he could make City and even better team.

Arsenal - Wenger to Madrid?
Tottenham - Redknapp off for the England Job
Newcastle - Was the funniest thing in the list for me, Some say due to his connections with Bobby Robson. Hey... Pardew to Spurs? :dunce:

Benfica
Bayern

Those were all that were included in media predictions.

I think they missed out the obvious Liverpool? I couldn't see Scousers complaining if Kenny was replaced by the Special One.

denphone 03-02-2012 17:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adzii_nufc (Post 35374848)
Jose Mourinho expected to leave Madrid in the summer.

a pick of Clubs he could go to.

Manchester City - Obvious reasons. He has the money to buy the players he wants and I believe he could make City and even better team.

Arsenal - Wenger to Madrid?
Tottenham - Redknapp off for the England Job
Newcastle - Was the funniest thing in the list for me, Some say due to his connections with Bobby Robson. Hey... Pardew to Spurs? :dunce:

Benfica
Bayern

Those were all that were included in media predictions.

I think they missed out the obvious Liverpool? I couldn't see Scousers complaining if Kenny was replaced by the Special One.

Rather have King Kenny rather then the Special One.

colin25 03-02-2012 19:00

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374851)
Rather have King Kenny rather then the Special One.

I suspect quite a few non-liverpool supporters are happy king kenny is there...but for opposite reason, he won't take them further :D

denphone 03-02-2012 19:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35374908)
I suspect quite a few non-liverpool supporters are happy king kenny is there...but for opposite reason, he won't take them further :D

Well Colin we shall see what the future holds as managerial positions can alter very quickly in the modern game.:D

Damien 03-02-2012 19:21

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Newcastle - No.
Arsenal - very, very unlikely. Basically No.
Liverpool - No.

Spurs - Unlikely but maybe.
Manchester City - Likely.
Man United - Certain if, and only if, Sir Alex decides to time to step down.
Chelsea - My current favourite.

England job?

denphone 03-02-2012 19:30

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But you never know as the rumour is Real Madrid have their close eyes on Arsene from what l have heard and AVB in my mind is dead in the water if they do not qualify for the champions league and Mancini well he is increasingly losing his marbles after his frankly idiotic comments after their loss to Everton in mid week.

Damien 03-02-2012 19:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35374927)
But you never know as the rumour is Real Madrid have their close eyes on Arsene from what l have heard and AVB in my mind is dead in the water if they do not qualify for the champions league and Mancini well he is increasingly losing his marbles after his frankly idiotic comments after their loss to Everton in mid week.

Wenger is unlikely to leave Arsenal, especially not for Real Madrid, Madrid are not his style and Wenger has built Arsenal to a big degree. If he leaves I can't imagine him wanting to start again elsewhere, he is very much a long term manager.

Arsenal are unlikely to employ someone who will just be there a few years as well. I think he wants United and will latch onto a club until he can get it. Spurs is a good shout if Redknapp doesn't get convicted, whereas England is a good bet if Redknapp does.

Shadow Demon UK 03-02-2012 22:09

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I really hope he doesn't come to United, it would be one of the worst appointments possible when Ferguson steps down.

Damien 03-02-2012 22:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35375045)
I really hope he doesn't come to United, it would be one of the worst appointments possible when Ferguson steps down.

No one will be able to succeed Ferguson, you might want a patsy to take the heat for a couple of years before firing them and getting someone that won't have to work in his shadow.

MalteseFalcon 03-02-2012 23:14

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I was always under the assumption that either Mark Hughes, Steve Bruce or Roy Keane were being groomed to take over at United once Ferguson retires. Personally, I don't think that any of them would be as successful as Fergie was and can't think of anyone who would be able to come straight in and start winning.

I still can't believe that Fergie was on the verge of losing his job in 1990 before he won the FA Cup. How different would the Premier League have been had Fergie been sacked at that point in 1990?

Alan Fry 04-02-2012 00:27

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Jose Mourinho might go to Man City

Manchini might to go to Tottenham

Redknapp might go to England

Wenger and Fergie will stay on until they Retire, after that who knows?

adzii_nufc 04-02-2012 01:25

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The Idea of Roy Keane managing Manchester United makes me want to start watching the Russian League instead.

TheDaddy 04-02-2012 06:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35375067)
No one will be able to succeed Ferguson, you might want a patsy to take the heat for a couple of years before firing them and getting someone that won't have to work in his shadow.

People will work in his shadow until Fergie dies because they'll move him upstairs and he'll always be hanging around just like Sir Matt was, not either of their faults but that'll be what happens unless Fergie remembers what it was like and steps away from the club completely.

Alan Fry 04-02-2012 12:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35375189)
People will work in his shadow until Fergie dies because they'll move him upstairs and he'll always be hanging around just like Sir Matt was, not either of their faults but that'll be what happens unless Fergie remembers what it was like and steps away from the club completely.

Man U better learn what happen after Sir Matt left and get world class players, managers and Coaching Staff after Fergie leaves, they can do it as long as they clear their debt and they owners sell out!

denphone 04-02-2012 13:22

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Well its that one man band again RVP as Arsenal take the lead at home to Blackburn.

denphone 04-02-2012 17:03

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/

Barclays Premier League

Arsenal 7
Blackburn 1

Norwich 2
Bolton 0

QPR 1
Wolverhampton 2

Stoke 0
Sunderland 1

West Brom 1
Swansea 2

Wigan 1
Everton 1

adzii_nufc 04-02-2012 17:16

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Blackburn were poor on a day Arsenal were top class.. simple

Damien 04-02-2012 17:26

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Yeah, not going to read too much into todays result. Pleased with the finishing and the performance from Chamberlain. Miffed into why RVP was not hauled off after his hat trick.

muppetman11 04-02-2012 17:47

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City cheats never a penalty in the memory of man

denphone 04-02-2012 17:50

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35375595)
City cheats never a penalty in the memory of man

Yes it was a blatant dive but that has now become commonplace in football l am afraid.:(

muppetman11 04-02-2012 17:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35375598)
Yes it was a blatant dive but that has now become commonplace in football l am afraid.:(

He purposely hooked his leg around the defender

denphone 04-02-2012 17:56

Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35375599)
He purposely hooked is leg around the defender

l know but they manoeuvre themselves in such a way that the referees always seem to be hoodwinked by these professional divers.

muppetman11 04-02-2012 18:05

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Now City have had a certain penalty not given , bizarre refereeing.

denphone 04-02-2012 18:08

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35375614)
Now City have had a certain penalty not given , bizarre refereeing.

One might say this referee is having a mare so far today.:td:

colin25 05-02-2012 07:00

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The reason Arsenal did so well yesterday, is they played aggressively. Always looked for the forward pass, not the sideways or backwards pass.

Same with why Man City osn't doing as well now. They call it patient build up, but basically it is negative football, I prefer agreesive football, and if the team has classy players, they will prefer that too.

Just my thoughts, Sunday morning..enjoying arsenal game on highlights :D

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Just watched wolves tackle on Cisse, player only got yellow?

Kompany gets red, and his tackle wasn't anything near as bad as that tackle.

Seeing inconsistency, and a bit of bias against Man City

denphone 05-02-2012 16:41

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It seems Man Utd defenders like to score goals but do prefer to put them in their own net.:D

colin25 05-02-2012 17:07

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I was watching end of 1st half..and torres looked like he was getting into it..and now he has just crossed a beauty to allow mata to score a sweet volley...2-0 chelsea

denphone 05-02-2012 17:09

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Yes a wonderfully constructed goal.

colin25 05-02-2012 17:10

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OMG 3-0 :D

denphone 05-02-2012 17:14

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Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35376211)
OMG 3-0 :D

This is pure heaven and l bet Fergie squirming now.:D

colin25 05-02-2012 17:28

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And wellbeck dived for 2nd penalty..shocker..but I guess expected. 3-2

Shadow Demon UK 05-02-2012 17:57

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Robbed by the ref again at Stamford bridge...Should have had a penalty and Cahill sent off in the first half but can't complain too much after being 3-0 down...

denphone 05-02-2012 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35376248)
Robbed by the ref again at Stamford bridge...Should have had a penalty and Cahill sent off in the first half but can't complain too much after being 3-0 down...

l thought Mr Webb was your 12th man in the second half.:D

Shadow Demon UK 05-02-2012 18:00

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Also we saw at the end why de gea will be a top class keeper, he just needs the confidence which will come in time

denphone 05-02-2012 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35376251)
Also we saw at the end why de gea will be a top class keeper, he just needs the confidence which will come in time

Remember he is still very young and a couple of years down the road l suspect he will be a much more rounded keeper.

Mal 05-02-2012 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35376232)
And wellbeck dived for 2nd penalty..shocker..but I guess expected. 3-2

:rofl: Nah, probably wasn't a penalty, but it wasn't a dive. It was more that Wellbeck tripped up over his foot. ;)

I bet you wouldn't have said no to the penalty? ;)

Arthurgray50@blu 05-02-2012 18:32

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I was delighted by this result, at the end of this season Chelsea will be looking for another manager.

Chelsea might be a great side, but they were showed how to play football by a United side not playing on full power.

iadom 05-02-2012 18:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35376257)
a couple of years down the road l suspect he will be a much more rounded keeper.

Hope you don't mean like Tommy Lawrence.:D

You could also say that Webb was Chelski's 12th man in the first half. ;)

I don't think Wellbeck dived although it was a 'borderline' decision, He is rather ungainly and rarely beats defenders by superfast feet, he generally stumbles past them and is really quite good at staying upright when it matters.:)

Jim.

sherer 05-02-2012 19:04

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first I don't think of of these claims were penalties.

The Cahill one started outside the box and Cahill missed the ball by less than a centremetre. Usual case of the commentators saying if he touched the ball it's not a pen. With there being no foul and the intent clearly being to play the ball but missing by the smallest margin, how on earth can you give a penalty. Surely a penalty should be there for a foul but if you are going for the ball then that can't be a foul. It's another case of a defender going for the ball and the attacker making sure there is contact and falling ove

The Evra one was just a coming together of legs, again no real foul or intent to stop the attacker playing the ball.

The third one was the attacker making sure he left his leg behind and bringing about the contacted.

Still don't think DGG is good enough for us. Yes he made a good save but then most keepers are good shot stoppers of the ball. His overall game was still poor, tried to punch the ball far to often and was lucky his punch from long range near the end of the match went over the ball, it could have easily ended up in the path of the Chelsea player. He still can't deal with corners or crosses and needs a lot of work to get used to the EPL. One save doesn't mean he's good enough for us yet

iadom 05-02-2012 21:31

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The first one that was not given which you fail to mention was a definite penalty, you can see from the camera angle behind Howard Webb that the number 18 on the United players shirt is being pulled off his back.:(

I make it one certain pen, two 50/50 and one very suspect ( the Cahill one) add them all up and that makes two penalties so perhaps Webb got it right after all.:D

Jim.

sherer 05-02-2012 23:20

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i'll have to watch the shirt pull one again on MOTD to comment on that one as I want to see it again. Never really sure if a shirt pull should be a pen anyway, i've seen before players can stand up and use strength and other times they fall over

Russ 06-02-2012 07:13

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I'm not impressed with the amount of back-slapping United are giving themselves over this. It seems they are happy with the never-say-die attitude which git them the draw. Ok respect to that but real champions would have played with that fire from the start.

Alan Fry 06-02-2012 10:30

Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I think Man City and Man U will be either 1st or 2nd and Tottenham Hotspur will be and Chelsea, Newcastle United, Arsenal and Liverpool all fighting to be 4th or 5th!

adzii_nufc 06-02-2012 17:05

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16905818

This is a joke, The FA are a joke. They have overblown this like its a murder trial and if Capello goes I wont be sitting watching the hilarious joke of a team named the English National team at the European championship. I'm not a fan of Capello but I hate it when Managers cant speak there mind. He's not an FA puppet or a yes man. It's about time these executives at the FA were replaced by people with proper knowledge of Football. Bobby Charlton would be an ideal top man.

Quote:

At the weekend, Capello said he did not believe someone should be punished by sporting authorities before a court had reached a verdict.
Too right.

thenry 06-02-2012 18:07

Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Chelsea can't spell

https://twitter.com/#!/WillieC1888/s...824384/photo/1

Dave42 06-02-2012 18:49

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match still on despite the thick fog at anfield and harry still stuck in london

colin25 06-02-2012 19:01

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Good..i am looking forward to the game..I'm not bothered which team wins, just hoping for good game

Dave42 06-02-2012 19:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35377075)
Good..i am looking forward to the game..I'm not bothered which team wins, just hoping for good game

yes should be a good game and suarez available again for liverpool

Cobbydaler 06-02-2012 19:03

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Neither can Rooney...

Dave42 06-02-2012 19:14

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teams

LFC team v Spurs: Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Agger, Skrtel, Spearing, Kuyt, Gerrard, Adam, Carroll, Bellamy

LFC subs Doni, Suarez, Hendo, Coates, Downing, Carra, Aurelio.

thfc Friedel; Walker, Dawson, King, Assou-Ekotto; Livermore, Parker; Kranjcar, Modric, Bale; Adebayor.

subs Cudicini, Bongani, Nelsen, Rose, Luongo, Lancaster, Saha.

yesman 06-02-2012 19:22

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No Van der Vaart ?
Spurs might struggle a bit without him

Arthurgray50@blu 06-02-2012 19:35

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The FA should have done the JT saga weeks ok, they should have spoken with Capello, but he didn't have the bottle to drop him.

Other clubs would have dropped him ' as he could not concentrate on the game with full focus'. But what JT has been charged with is serious, and the whole matter has dragged on too long.

He has a history of problems with other players, and this respect campaign does not exist with the example that he carried on.

Even his club should drop him, but as fools as they are, are backing him to the hilt.

IF that was a member of the public, we would be in serious trouble, but a footballer is no different. The FA is a farce and they should have done this weeks ago, and in my book after the way he was stripped before, he should not have had the skipper band back again.

Cobbydaler 06-02-2012 23:33

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Wenger the whinger?

Ferguson doing it again (ignoring the dive)...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16898880

Shadow Demon UK 06-02-2012 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cobbydaler (Post 35377194)
Wenger the whinger?

Ferguson doing it again (ignoring the dive)...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16898880

What dive??

Cobbydaler 07-02-2012 00:02

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The Welbeck dive
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Rooney scored emphatically and he was on the spot again when Webb decided Welbeck had been fouled by Ivanovic, although contact was minimal.
Link

Shadow Demon UK 07-02-2012 00:07

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The penalty may have been questionable but it wasn't a dive, there was clear contact.

Cobbydaler 07-02-2012 00:13

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35377201)
The penalty may have been questionable but it wasn't a dive, there was clear contact.

Semantics, an engineered penalty...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...aham-Poll.html

adzii_nufc 07-02-2012 03:20

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Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35377201)
The penalty may have been questionable but it wasn't a dive, there was clear contact.

So how come he gets dragged all over outside the penalty area with more contact than that but stays on his feet?

Yet he taps an opposition player's foot and he's doing a barrel role. That does not scream simulation to you? Or the sheer fact he was the one that slipped his foot behind the player so It looked real? There are no Maybe's here, He quite clearly moved his leg into that position with the intention of diving and then clearly does so.

colin25 07-02-2012 05:32

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wellbeck was a dive. He moved his foot deliberately to make contact with the player then deliberatelt went down. I call that a dive, similar to the alan johnson incident

just because a player forces his foot to make contact isn't a penalty

unfortunately a lot of players are either cheats or matchstick men, falling down under slightess contact, not because of the contact

denphone 07-02-2012 05:55

Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35377219)
wellbeck was a dive. He moved his foot deliberately to make contact with the player then deliberatelt went down. I call that a dive, similar to the alan johnson incident

just because a player forces his foot to make contact isn't a penalty

unfortunately a lot of players are either cheats or matchstick men, falling down under slightess contact, not because of the contact

Exactly.:clap:

Arthurgray50@blu 07-02-2012 09:36

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After a night of sleep and thinking about the Liverpool v Spurs, it made me wonder why so many footballers in this day and age to what they do to try and injure a player..

We should have seen two red cards in the game with Suasex and Adams, with Suasex, he should have seen red after the nasty kick on Parker, and then again with Adam and the double feet challenge.

I honestly think the referee Martin Oliver was inexperienced with this type of game, he allowed too many rough tackles to away with it.

To the diving aspects of the game, we must have technology in the game so that a fourth officials can tell the ref if it is a dive and then it should be a straight red.

We have too many players doing it, and getting away with it, but l think this won't happen to to the fact that players are spoilt like kids, When l was young, referees were tough, but allowed the game to flow, and this is what has happened, and players do it as they know if the ref is not tough, they will get away with it.

Alan Fry 07-02-2012 10:50

Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35377107)
The FA should have done the JT saga weeks ok, they should have spoken with Capello, but he didn't have the bottle to drop him.

Other clubs would have dropped him ' as he could not concentrate on the game with full focus'. But what JT has been charged with is serious, and the whole matter has dragged on too long.

He has a history of problems with other players, and this respect campaign does not exist with the example that he carried on.

Even his club should drop him, but as fools as they are, are backing him to the hilt.

IF that was a member of the public, we would be in serious trouble, but a footballer is no different. The FA is a farce and they should have done this weeks ago, and in my book after the way he was stripped before, he should not have had the skipper band back again.

John Terry is not a player we should be proud of!

---------- Post added at 10:50 ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 ----------

What will happen to Portsmouth FC?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/16710949

Pog66 07-02-2012 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35377268)
it made me wonder why so many footballers in this day and age to what they do to try and injure a player..

Quote:

I honestly think the referee Martin Oliver was inexperienced with this type of game, he allowed too many rough tackles to away with it.
Quote:

When l was young, referees were tough, but allowed the game to flow, and this is what has happened, and players do it as they know if the ref is not tough, they will get away with it.
Isn't the last quote at odds with the previous ones - players used to kick lumps out of each other regularly and the game flowed because the referees let it happen.....Chopper Harris, Norman HUnter, Billy Bremner (in fact most of the Leeds team of that era ;) ), Souness, etc

colin25 07-02-2012 16:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pog66 (Post 35377357)
Isn't the last quote at odds with the previous ones - players used to kick lumps out of each other regularly and the game flowed because the referees let it happen.....Chopper Harris, Norman HUnter, Billy Bremner (in fact most of the Leeds team of that era ;) ), Souness, etc

I think what is missing is balance...stop the shirkers who dive or fall over from just a dirty look, equally ensure good players are protected. If that means after the game people get charged for doing either...then not a bad thing.


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