Cable Forum - Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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how big can this list get. are we barking up a tree with no CAT ????

lol sky might be the one to instigate something if virgin switch it on

ah well got me laughing

Florence

21-04-2008 20:07

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

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Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34534571)

any one got a copy of Blackstone's police manuals out there was reading last years and on one of the questions to do with RIPA offences

the answer of when the offence was committed by a person who was intending to access information covered by this law was that he committed the offence as soon as he switched on the computer that would enable him to do so

was wondering if this years was the same and if it could be of help in the reporting of this to the police whom the Home office say are suposed to be the ones to investigate such matters

this help

blackstonespolice

gaz1	21-04-2008 20:15

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as i have been to school today i went and had a word about this phorm-webwise business as id already had a word with some of the parents about this issue to my astonishment the headmistress and deputy head and there ict teacher was unaware of this phorm-webwise business i explained about the schools data protection approach as it violates the schools data protection forms they hand out each year to parents and was redirected to the district data protection for schools

at this moment will get intouch with them tommorow to see where my data protection rights stand and where my childrens data protection rights stand within the school when they use there computers to go on the internet within school time as we are handed leaflets to go on net after school for education perposes

ebay t&cs are rather interesting

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policie...agreement.html

part 1

distribute viruses or any other technologies that may harm eBay, or the interests or property of eBay users;

copy, modify, or distribute eBay's copyrighted works or trade marks, or other content from the Site, without our express consent; or

harvest or otherwise collect information about users, including email addresses, without their express consent.

part 2 is very interesting indead

Access and interference
The Site contains robot exclusion headers. Much of the information on the Site is updated on a real-time basis and is proprietary or is licensed to eBay by our users or third parties. You agree that you will not use any robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access the Site for any purpose without our express written permission.

Additionally, you agree that you will not:

take any action that imposes or may impose (in our sole discretion) an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on our infrastructure;

copy, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, or publicly display any content (except for your information) from the Site without the prior expressed written permission of eBay and the appropriate third party, as applicable;

interfere or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site; or

bypass our robot exclusion headers or other measures we may use to prevent or restrict access to the Site.

? has anyone started this kitty off for donations to allexander
as most of time i like my freebies on net and as this is worth the donation i have to give for someone to fight this its worth it totally

Great work, Portly_Giraffe and Florence!
Many thanks for your time and effort.

popper

21-04-2008 20:18

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]

Omg :shocked:
related to this invation of privacy and data export.....under Jacqui Smith OC ,no wonder she ignored the Phorm questions.

perhaps a seperate set of questions to the lords on this matter.....

its hard enough getting access yourself, if you were to send a DPA request for any footage of you they might have, and the US gets all this for free .....
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-allows-spy-uk
"
Secret pact allows the US to spy on UK motorists

Big Buddy is watching y'all

By Egan Orion: Monday, 21 April 2008, 4:16 PM

THE UK Home Secretary secretively signed a "special certificate" last year that gives foreign security agencies real-time access to traffic camera images and related data monitoring British motorists on highways throughout the UK.

Opposition politicians and civil liberties advocates yesterday accused Gordon Brown's government of attempting to hide from Parliament its covert plans to facilitate international surveillance of UK citizens in violation of privacy laws.

Under the authorisation signed last July 4 by Jacqui Smith, video feeds and still images captured from roadside TV cameras, along with personal data derived from them, can be transmitted out of the UK to countries such as the US, that are outside the European Economic Area
......
"

OldBear

21-04-2008 20:29

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Since someone mentioned the Police. Looks pretty much the same as the others, i.e. written consent only.

http://www.met.police.uk/about/webinfo.htm

I wonder what these chappies would feel about forged cookies being dumped on our PCs in their name. ;)

OB

dav	21-04-2008 20:30

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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 34534487)

Apologies for the knee-jerk but I had only limited time. I suppose we'd have to hope the goalie doesn't still save the penalty.

Look, I'm all for a more organised approach (it saves chasing down the wrong road for weeks) but let's not pin too many hopes on any single event and keep our options open eh?

No Problem :)

rogerdraig

21-04-2008 20:32

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Originally Posted by Florence (Post 34534586)

this help

blackstonespolice

it would if i had the Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£68 to subscribe ;) will try and get over my friends who has this years some time this week

Florence

21-04-2008 20:36

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Originally Posted by popper (Post 34534594)

OMG this is a bigger pandora's box than phorm I think we will be kissing bye to labour on may 1st..

Wonder if we can get a second working paty to focus on this leaving the main party to stay on focus with Phorm just incase it is leaked now to split our attention..

Wild Oscar

21-04-2008 20:48

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Well, hot on the heels of my previous post today .. I also used writetothem.com to send a message (similar to the Paul Clark one) to my MEP's .. one reply already .. from Nigel Farage (UKIP)

Quote:

Thank you for your message about the disturbing activities of "Phorm".

I wrote to the Information Commissioner on this subject, two weeks ago,
urging him to consider that Phorm's assertions of its activities'
legality were, at best, technical loopholes in the law. I await a
reply.

Since then, however, I have heard that the EU (a completely
non-democratic organisation) is attempting to introduce legislation,
which would make Phorm's invasion of privacy perfectly legal. The EU's
excuse for doing this is that the entertainment-industry should be able
to trace all downloads of music and films to ensure that
copyright-duties are paid.

The industry will be able to require ISP's to trace and store all the
web-activity of every user - ostensibly - for this purpose, but it is
obvious to me that the information made available, in this way, will
have a multitude of applications both commercial and political.

The UKIP - in the EU's largely fake "parliament" - together with allies
on the Right and the Left, has already begun to fight these proposals
and scored an initial victory with the introduction (by a mere 17 votes)
of an amendment (to a stalking-horse proposal) which deplores the EU's
adoption of a code of penalties for internet-users.

The Commission now knows that there is a potential majority, in the
Assembly, against an internet-surveillance directive, but it has other
ways of introducing such instruments, and will be impossible to block in
the long run.

Ultimately, the only way to prevent such measures - and avoid the growth
of a totalitarian state of "Europe" - is to break the EU's hold over its
disenfranchised populations - starting with the UK.

Yours sincerely

Nigel Farage

Rchivist

21-04-2008 20:57

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Originally Posted by Deko (Post 34534544)

I'm asking a BT manager if they think I should stop visiting Amazon, Sky and BBC sites once Webwise is live. I'll let you know what the reply is!

dav	21-04-2008 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Oscar (Post 34534628)

Well, hot on the heels of my previous post today .. I also used writetothem.com to send a message (similar to the Paul Clark one) to my MEP's .. one reply already .. from Nigel Farage (UKIP)

Obviously a man who is looking to grind other axes:erm:

Rchivist

21-04-2008 21:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wild Oscar (Post 34534628)

Well, hot on the heels of my previous post today .. I also used writetothem.com to send a message (similar to the Paul Clark one) to my MEP's .. one reply already .. from Nigel Farage (UKIP)

I'd be careful of getting too involved with Mr Farage - as you can see from his reply, his concern may not really be privacy, his concern is more likely to be anything that shows EU in a bad light. That is a separate issue.

Fringe political parties do have a record of using ANY issue to further their own interests - I would recommend supping with a very long spoon indeed if you go down that road.

mark777

21-04-2008 21:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by R Jones (Post 34534634)

I'm asking a BT manager if they think I should stop visiting Amazon, Sky and BBC sites once Webwise is live. I'll let you know what the reply is!

It's probably a safe bet that BT will exclude any site from the trial that is big enough and may be inclined to sue. They must be pretty nervous about it as it is.;)

Where would the BBC site stand if it's users in the UK were profiled for the purposes of advertising?

Bonglet

21-04-2008 21:33

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I agree with r jones and would stick to the big 3 in politics at least if you really want it heard.

OF1975

21-04-2008 21:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mark777 (Post 34534657)

Isn't BBC meant to be a signed up member of OIX anyway?

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