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Perhap there should be a vote for the whole of the UK to be asked if we want Scotland to remain , wonder what the result would be then :D

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Humza Yousaf to succeed Sturgeon as SNP leader.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-65086551

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The clown has taken over the circus.

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The numbers are interesting. Despite 3 quite different choices, 20,000 people didn’t bother to vote. For a party that would style itself as progressive, a significant chunk of it’s membership votes Forbes ahead of Yousaf, or wasn’t so concerned by her socially conservative values as to vote at all.

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I’d venture to suggest that a huge number of the post-2014 new members were engaged in little more than online virtue signalling, given the ease of joining online, and how low the initial membership fee was. Before the referendum there were just 20,000 members, though I suspect most of them were politically engaged to some degree. Having formally lost more than a third of their peak membership it seems they’re likely to lose a chunk more once they remember to cancel their direct debits.

The vote split is I suspect very revealing of where Scotland really is, culturally and socially. If Humza Useless hadn’t been very overtly the establishment candidate I suspect Forbes would have done better still, and could have won it.

Whatever, it’s settled now. We’re in for a couple of years of the same old, same old, and then probably quite a difficult election for the SNP.

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I am guessing that Forbes, being rooted in Old Testament thinking re: LGBT+, probably alienated enough of the younger SNP support to ensure she lost. Saying that, depending where Humza is aligned in the Islamic theology spectrum, he may not be far behind.

If these two are the best that the SNP can do then its fun time for Labour for the next GE ...

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There’s plenty in the New Testament about model relationships and sexuality as well. There’s also a lot about tolerance. Kate Forbes is routinely - sometimes wilfully - misunderstood for assuming she holds to one and not the other. In my experience I have come across many more LGBT etc activists who have failed to master the skill of disagreeing well, than I have encountered Christians with that problem.

Public polling throughout this campaign has consistently shown Kate Forbes was the voters’ favourite. The SNP has missed an opportunity to bring in a new broom and a popular face and has instead stuck with business as usual with a minister whose record is hardly glowing. The noises coming from the other political parties in Scotland are rather positive this evening. The SNP ought to worry why that is.

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Can I ask why you are questioning this?

He was born in Glasgow…

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Kate Forbes is against a number of progressive policies: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-64747672

I think the SNP dodged a bullet electing Humza instead of Forbes

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I think you’re reading your own social assumptions onto it without any real understanding of Scottish social attitudes or politics. As I’ve already said, public polling consistently put Kate Forbes ahead of the others, in many cases because of her conservative outlook. Scotland is not Islington.

You only need to listen to what the opposition parties in Scotland are saying this evening to understand just how much they wanted Humza Useless to get the job rather than Kate Forbes.

Here, try reading some Scottish political commentary from someone who knows what he’s talking about: https://news.stv.tv/politics/bernard...icola-sturgeon

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I don't live in Islington and I am half Scottish. My grandfather was a piper in a Scottish regiment, my father was born in Scotland and I have a sister and brother both living in the Highlands, who I talk to regularly about Scottish politics. I know more about Scotland than your snide remarks imply. Arrogance is not a good look.

What I do know is that the tide of demographics favour independence. The younger voters, by far, favour independence and as the older voters pass on, this view will get more & more entrenched. There is also a large majority in favour of gay marriage in Scotland, a policy that Forbes could and would not support.

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