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Sephiroth 06-01-2014 16:23

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Everything you see in those categories. Just copy/paste into your next reply..

roughbeast 09-01-2014 17:32

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This is weird. I have full internet services. Speed test at 126Mb, yet a graph like this. I disabled this monitor, but the system won't let me create another. It says I am already monitoring this IP address.


http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/s...09-01-2014.png

Sephiroth 09-01-2014 17:46

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
ICMP passthrough enabled on the router?

roughbeast 09-01-2014 17:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35661522)
ICMP passthrough enabled on the router?

I haven't got network filter services switched on. Also all NAT passthroughs are enabled.

I've just traced problem back to the day I updated ASUS N66U firmware to latest revision. So what's changed I wonder? Last Saturday.

qasdfdsaq 09-01-2014 18:29

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You do NOT want passthrough, you want firewall allow and respond.

roughbeast 09-01-2014 19:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35661535)
You do NOT want passthrough, you want firewall allow and respond.

Er. Going with what you said for now, rather than Seph.

What will have changed with the firmware update and where in the router firewall would I gain 'allow and respond'?

Jumping 09-01-2014 19:15

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by roughbeast (Post 35661543)
Er. Going with what you said for now, rather than Seph.

What will have changed with the firmware update and where in the router firewall would I gain 'allow and respond'?

Normally you have to enable allow wan ping request option as its often turned off by default settings.

On my Asus RT-N56U its labelled as "Respond Ping Request from WAN?" under firewall settings. So set this to enabled and the graph should start to work.

roughbeast 09-01-2014 19:48

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jumping (Post 35661546)
Normally you have to enable allow wan ping request option as its often turned off by default settings.

On my Asus RT-N56U its labelled as "Respond Ping Request from WAN?" under firewall settings. So set this to enabled and the graph should start to work.

OK! Thanks. Done that.

Weird that the setting must've changed with the update. I don't recall enabling it 9 months ago when I first got this router. Perhaps I did.

I should be able to tell in about 30 minutes if this has worked.

Edit.............................................. .................................

Working. (See above) Thanks again.

qasdfdsaq 09-01-2014 22:28

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Yeah some people/companies/manufacturers/PR jerks seem to think not responding to pings from the internet is a "security feature".

Kushan 10-01-2014 08:34

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
There is such a thing as an ICMP flood, so I can see why that might be. Still, rather than just not responding at all, it's the kind of thing a good firewall should prevent.

qasdfdsaq 10-01-2014 13:09

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
ICMP flood doesn't require a good firewall at all to prevent at all.

All it needs is a non-stupid ICMP responder.

Kushan 10-01-2014 13:23

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Well yeah, the point is that there's any number of ways to mitigate it without disabling the feature entirely.

qasdfdsaq 10-01-2014 14:22

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
No, point is you shouldn't have to mitigate anything.

Kushan 10-01-2014 14:32

Re: Think Broadband Ping Monitor Results (POST YOURS)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by qasdfdsaq (Post 35661741)
No, point is you shouldn't have to mitigate anything.

Is that the point? The only reason you wouldn't have to mitigate an attack is if people didn't try to attack you. If someone does an ICMP flood, something has to mitigate it - even if it's the ICMP responder itself. It doesn't matter if it's the responder, the firewall or something else, there's multiple layers of security for a reason.

The real point is that disabling ICMP isn't a solution by any means. I think that much we can agree with.

qasdfdsaq 11-01-2014 00:39

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No.

Nobody "does" an ICMP flood to you.

For an ICMP flood to occur, your own router has to actively generate it itself.


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