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Unless the EU finally relents on their specific unreasonable demands, there's nothing further to discuss. Have the EU indicated they have done that? Doesn't appear so.:rolleyes:

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One problem the EU has is that the French farmers/fishermen are a lot more "revolutionary" than ours are.

It is much rarer to see UK farmers dressing Whitehall in manure or dumping unsold fish on The Strand than in France.

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The concerns of French fishermen can easily be assuaged by means other than by the EU having total control and unfettered access. The matter isn't about whether or not, the French have access, but on whose terms.

The UK will be setting quotas for UK waters, so it's possible the EU could ask for a minimum percentage of that. Simple way of allowing EU fishing boats, but under UK control. Why haven't the EU asked for that sort of arrangement? Other than to not act in "good faith" and block any further deal?

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Retraining into other industries?

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Making Nissans and Vauxhalls for when they become unviable to be made in the UK?

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It's not how to address the concerns but how to clean the fish guts of the pavement.

Of course there are solutions to all these little issues. Maybe we need to get the politicos out of the way and let farmers and others work something out. (I say farmers especially because while you can mothball factories or move production you can't do that with a farm, especially making region category products.)

Farmer have stuff grown and need to sell it now, we don't tax food so that should be easy on our end, and our farmers have the same. If we have excess of something that another country finds themselves in need of just move it. What we really need is to agree standards that need to be met or exceeded and just continue.

I have a much simpler view than reality but I have farming on all sides of my families and farmers are much more pragmatic - you do what needs doing, when it needs doing.

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They're also pretty good at blockading our major EU trading port, Calais.

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Where would they sell them?

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Not even the architect of the Single Market (Lady Thatcher) or Macron have been able to alter geography or French farmers' and fishermen's minds.

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She understood the importance of pragmatism and on picking the right battles. In contrast to others who favoured whinging.

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She won the 66% rebate. Just think of all the billions that has saved.
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Now add up that sort of figure going back 30 years.

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<snigger> impartial observer <snigger>

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...2&d=1603197663

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Suddenly we are back in the 18th and 19th Century?