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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...avirus-vaccine

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The virus will still be tough to conquer with a vaccine that lasts for years.

“It will be harder to get rid of Covid than smallpox,” says Brilliant. With smallpox it was at least clear who was infected, whereas people with coronavirus can spread it without knowing. A thornier problem is that as long as the infection rages in one country, all other nations are at risk.

As David Salisbury, the former director of immunisation at the Department of Health, told a Chatham House webinar recently: “Unless we have a vaccine available in unbelievable quantities that could be administered extraordinarily quickly in all communities in the world we will have gaps in our defences that the virus can continue to circulate in.”

Not looking good, is it, Hugh? As I said, this virus is not going anywhere soon.

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And we'll believe it when we see it.

There's also this.

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The Government’s chief scientific adviser Sir Patrick Vallance has said the R number for the transmission of the coronavirus remains below one across the UK.

He told the daily No 10 briefing that the epidemic continued to shrink – “albeit slowly” – by between 2% and 4% a day.

He said that currently around 0.06% of the population of the UK – 33,000 people – was now estimated to have the disease and that the numbers were “flattening off” rather than going down to zero.

“Don’t be fooled that this means it has gone away. The disease is growing across the world. It is coming down in the UK but it hasn’t gone away,” he said.

Pierre

23-06-2020 21:12

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The problem is that the country is now at the stage of not giving a shit anymore.

They’ve served their time and done their bit and now they had enough.

RichardCoulter

24-06-2020 00:08

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36040890)

Boat :cleader::cleader::cleader:

I wonder if people who permanently live on a boat had to remain stationery as it would otherwise have been classed as non essential travel!

Hugh	24-06-2020 00:15

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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36040980)

The problem is that the country is now at the stage of not giving a shit anymore.

They’ve served their time and done their bit and now they had enough.

Let’s hope the virus feels the same way...

papa smurf

24-06-2020 07:05

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36041008)

I wonder if people who permanently live on a boat had to remain stationery as it would otherwise have been classed as non essential travel!

They got chucked out of the marina's,and all the facilities were closed so no fuel/water/gas/toilet pump out.

RichardCoulter

24-06-2020 09:08

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36041015)

They got chucked out of the marina's,and all the facilities were closed so no fuel/water/gas/toilet pump out.

Wow, but that was their home. Doing this forced them to travel too.

papa smurf

24-06-2020 09:14

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36041023)

Wow, but that was their home. Doing this forced them to travel too.

Locally those who lived on caravan parks were turfed out,many people had to sofa surf with friends.

Pierre

24-06-2020 10:17

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36041009)

Let’s hope the virus fells the same way...

Lockdown has effectively been over for three weeks, in regards to the younger generation there hasn't even been a lockdown.

Yet the numbers have continued to go down.

It will be interesting to see what the numbers are like at the end of July.

Chris

24-06-2020 10:29

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36041015)

They got chucked out of the marina's,and all the facilities were closed so no fuel/water/gas/toilet pump out.

The Canals & Rivers Trust made special arrangements for live-aboard canal users. Nobody should have been denied facilities that needed them, although obviously the holiday focused private marinas will have all shut.

papa smurf

24-06-2020 10:47

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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36041029)

The marina where i moor my boat was locked up,you couldn't even get on site to check your boat was safe,there was guidance from the broads authority about taking a fuel can to a local garage if you lived on the water and ran out of fuel[ not practical as garages are a bit rare],but you need water and toilet pump outs and these are all on commercial facilities which were forced to close, you don't get large communities living on the broads like you do on the canals and canals have self service facilities for pump outs.
my boat has a holding tank and a sea toilet so taking a dump is no problem :)

1andrew1

24-06-2020 15:12

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Some great examples of how Africa countries have been successful in managing Covid 19.

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Senegal is in a good position because its Covid-19 response planning began in earnest in January, as soon as the first international alert on the virus went out. The government closed the borders, initiated a comprehensive plan of contact tracing and, because it is a nation of multiple-occupation households, offered a bed for every single coronavirus patient in either a hospital or a community health facility.
As a result, this nation of 16 million people has had only 30 deaths. Each death has been acknowledged individually by the government, and condolences paid to the family. You can afford to see each death as a person when the numbers are at this level. At every single one of those stages, the UK did the opposite, and is now facing a death toll of more than 35,000.

Ghana, with a population of 30 million, has a similar death toll to Senegal, partly because of an extensive system of contact tracing, utilising a large number of community health workers and volunteers, and other innovative techniques such as “pool testing”, in which multiple blood samples are tested and then followed up as individual tests only if a positive result is found. The advantages in this approach are now being studied by the World Health Organization.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...tion-europe-us

Pierre

24-06-2020 16:52

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36041045)

Some great examples of how Africa countries have been successful in managing Covid 19.

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampp...tion-europe-us

Ah yes, the major international hub that is Senegal!

Hugh	24-06-2020 17:24

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061288

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Coronavirus: Human trial of new vaccine begins in UK

Volunteers have begun being immunised with a new UK coronavirus vaccine.

About 300 people will have the vaccine over the coming weeks, as part of a trial led by Prof Robin Shattock and his colleagues, at Imperial College London.

Tests in animals suggest the vaccine is safe and triggers an effective immune response.

Experts at Oxford University have already started human trials.

The trials are among many across the world - there are around 120 vaccine programmes under way.

Kathy, 39, who works in finance, is one of the first volunteers taking part in the Imperial trial.

She said she volunteered because she wanted to play a part in fighting the virus.

"I think it came from not really knowing what I could do to help, and this turned out to be something that I could do.

"And understanding that it's not likely that things will get back to normal until there is a vaccine, so wanting to be part of that progress as well."

After this first phase, another trial is being planned for October, involving 6,000 people.

The Imperial team hopes the vaccine could be distributed in the UK and overseas from early 2021.

1andrew1

24-06-2020 18:01

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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36041059)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53061288

That sounds encouraging. :)

Damien

25-06-2020 08:47

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