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1andrew1 13-10-2020 22:51

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36053616)
It seemed to offend you.

How so? :confused:

Mad Max 14-10-2020 00:42

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36053612)
As much help as you usually are, and with the same amount if verisimilitude - just constantly repeating falsehoods doesn’t make them true...

Oh, sorry - I forgot you are a BoJo supporter...


Did that dictionary go down well, Hugh?

Hugh 14-10-2020 13:21

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36053625)
Did that dictionary go down well, Hugh?

https://i.imgur.com/Z1vbZUO.gif

Mad Max 14-10-2020 13:51

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:D:D

jfman 15-10-2020 08:20

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Are we not walking away yet?

Sephiroth 15-10-2020 09:18

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36053800)
Are we not walking away yet?

Why do you ask?

OLD BOY 15-10-2020 10:19

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36053800)
Are we not walking away yet?

The PM is waiting for the outcome of the meeting of EU leaders today. Then he will decide whether it’s best just to walk away.

jfman 15-10-2020 10:23

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36053811)
The PM is waiting for the outcome of the meeting of EU leaders today. Then he will decide whether it’s best just to walk away.

I suspect he’s waiting in the outcome of the US election.

Sephiroth 15-10-2020 10:43

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Making myself a hostage to fortune, I'd bet that the EU won't blink because they think Boris will bend. If that's the case, Boris should break off talks and invite them to restart them when the EU has some reasonable compromise to offer.

Boris's cred is low at the moment and he must keep to his word because the EU is a perfidious negotiator, particularly driven by the equally perfidious French and Irish governments.


1andrew1 15-10-2020 18:05

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36053814)
Making myself a hostage to fortune, I'd bet that the EU won't blink because they think Boris will bend. If that's the case, Boris should break off talks and invite them to restart them when the EU has some reasonable compromise to offer.

Boris's cred is low at the moment and he must keep to his word because the EU is a perfidious negotiator, particularly driven by the equally perfidious French and Irish governments.


Based on what Boris has done with an international treaty, I suspect most impartial observers feel he's a closer fit for "perfidious".

But Boris rolled over on the Withdrawal Agreement so chances are he'll do the same again, I agree. But this time, the EU will want some guarantee he'll honour the agreement.

Sephiroth 15-10-2020 19:33

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36053867)
Based on what Boris has done with an international treaty, I suspect most impartial observers feel he's a closer fit for "perfidious".

But Boris rolled over on the Withdrawal Agreement so chances are he'll do the same again, I agree. But this time, the EU will want some guarantee he'll honour the agreement.

An EU lover would say that.


By putting in the Bill when he did was serious act of folly for, among others, the reason you gave in your second paragraph.

I've no problem with repudiation of the WA as may be necessary to protect our sovereignty at the end of December if er don't have a deal.

The EU are being unreasonable and Boris has been stupid.


1andrew1 15-10-2020 23:46

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36053896)
An EU lover would say that.

I'm sure they would, but so would an impartial observer. Signing an international agreement and then unilaterally revoking part of it meets the definition of perfidious, namely "unable to be trusted".

Even if it were the worst agreement in the world.

papa smurf 16-10-2020 12:06

Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
 
Brexit: Boris Johnson says it's time to 'get ready' for no deal with EU

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-bo...th-eu-12105527



The prime minister claimed: "Unless there's a fundamental change of approach, we should go for the Australia solution."

1andrew1 16-10-2020 12:45

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“Coming to a free trade agreement with the EU should be one of the easiest in human history.” – Liam Fox, International Trade Secretary, July 2017.

Mad Max 16-10-2020 12:48

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:shocked:


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