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Re: Netflix/Streaming Services

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35940205)

Nothing there that is even a minor issue for me at all, but if it upsets you so much, being that you now have a definitive answer re Amazon, I guess the path ahead for you is to leave VM.

I suspect you will never find a supplier that meets all your requirements though.

Not IMO.

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Even more reason to believe that Mike Fries has got it wrong about Amazon.

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2018...rvice-by-2022/

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A quick heads up for any Now TV customers and movie fans amongst the nice CF user base,
Argos are currently selling off 2nd gen Now TV boxes with a 4 month movie pass for £24:99

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7471931

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I would certainly subscribe to YouTube Red if it meant I could watch music videos without interruption from ads.

However, the news that they are increasing advertising to encourage people to subscribe is annoying. I just hope they don't start doing this over here before YouTube Red is launched in the UK.

http://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018/...-music-videos/

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I was also pleased to see that the comedy genre is about to be covered by a dedicated streaming service.

http://www.digitaltveurope.com/2018/...outfit-nextup/

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https://www.rapidtvnews.com/20180329...#axzz5B99lDhDh

Interesting stuff here. The BBC i-Player is the very best of the catch up services available, but it now it has to evolve towards the Netflix/Amazon kind of model in order to survive in the new digital world.

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Are the movie channels on Now TV on demand only or do you get linear as well?

Do you have to put in a PIN during the day as with VM?

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35942190)

Are the movie channels on Now TV on demand only or do you get linear as well?
Do you have to put in a PIN during the day as with VM?

Linear and on-demand except on YouView which is on-demand only.
No PIN required.

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Thanks Andrew.

On Sky & VM you have to keep putting in a PIN for most films during the day every time you change film channel or watch a recording. Not sure if on demand requires this during the day as i've only ever used it at night.

It's a PITA, but, apparently, it is an Ofcom requirement. Perhaps Ofcom have no jurisdiction over streaming services?

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35942209)

Perhaps Ofcom have no jurisdiction over streaming services?

Ofcom say:

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The Code only applies to broadcast television services. There is no equivalent watershed requirement
for on-demand programme services” or “ODPS”. This reflects the fact that whereas broadcasters are
in control of setting and scheduling when content is shown on their television services,
audiences of ODPS have full control of when they view content made available on-demand. Therefore, the
standards rules applicable to ODPS, which implement the minimum requirements of the Audiovisual
Media Services Directive place no restrictions on what time viewers can watch ODPS
content that might be unsuitable for children.

In practice however, most ODPS voluntarily provide a range of audience protection
measures to prevent children from accessing unsuitable material. For example, members of
the Commercial Broadcasters Association (“CoBA”) signed a voluntary Statement of Practice
in February 2016, committing to making child safety a priority on their VOD services and
provide viewers with a range of protections for their on-demand and catch-up services that
are accessed through a television. The Public Service Broadcasters (BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and
Channel 5), which are not members of CoBA, all also provide various parental controls
such as PIN protections which can be set up to restrict access to rated content on their
respective ODPS (BBC iPlayer, ITV Hub, All4, and My5)

(From https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/asse...sting-Code.pdf)

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services

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Originally Posted by passingbat (Post 35940205)

Nothing there that is even a minor issue for me at all, but if it upsets you so much, being that you now have a definitive answer re Amazon, I guess the path ahead for you is to leave VM.

I suspect you will never find a supplier that meets all your requirements though.

Virgin Media could be that supplier.

http://telecoms.com/487352/virgin-me...ds-to-do-more/

VM now finds itself asking the same question as a lot of telcos staring at the world of content; where do we fit in? Those who have tried to crack the content ownership so far have largely failed, though looking across to Continental Europe, Deutsche Telekom has shown there is value in the role of content aggregator. VM does seem to be heading down that direction, and we think it is a very sensible idea.

“Virgin Media has the opportunity to leverage its superfast broadband assets to deliver a good content experience for the consumer,” said Paolo Pescatore of CCS Insight.

“There are more than a hundred streaming services in the US who will be looking for a way to engage European audiences before too long. Being the aggregator, or a shop-window, is a very sensible idea, but Virgin Media needs to do more.”

Being a content aggregator is a very logical move for a telco. It has an existing relationship with the consumer, offers connectivity at home and on the move and is a lower-risk entry to the world of content. Virgin Media has shown it can do it with a partnership with Netflix, but it will need to develop more of these relationships if it is going to be a heavyweight.

That said, last year’s introduction of the V6 box, the partnership with Netflix and other exclusive box set deals, does seem to have made an impact on subscriber numbers. Over the last four quarters, the total number of TV subscribers has risen; 4,033,900 (Q4 2016), 4,073,200 (Q1 2017), 4,106,300 (Q2 2017) and 4,119,600 (Q3 2017). The trend is heading the right direction.

That said, content is a tricky game to play in as there are so many options. Trying to pick the next Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones could be considered pot luck, but the OTTs are doing it too often for this to be considered a coincidence.

“The telcos don’t have the same luxury as the OTTs,” said Pescatore. “Netflix has been in this world for quite a while and has the data available to understand what customers want. This insight makes buying decisions for content much easier and removes a notable amount of risk.

“The telcos will get there eventually, but they need the data first. Being an aggregator allows them to collect this data without taking the risk of spending on content.

“Most consumers also have two or three streaming services, meaning finding content can be a nightmare, there are so many windows and search engines. Having a smooth interface where all content is collected for the consumer provides a solution to a problem which is out there right now.”

It can be frustrating having to sign into a different browser and beginning the search process over again. DT’s Stream On shows that if you can develop relationships and bring all the content into one place, you are providing a valued service to the consumer. It is a logical place for the telcos to begin their content journey; consumers generally only have one connectivity provider, so take advantage of that streamlined view and bring all the content into one app.

The aggregator route is certainly a sensible one for VM to take, as while it is a sensible place to enter the value chain, it will also provide insight for any original content decisions which could be made down the road. It is also low-risk, something all the unadventurous telcos like to hear.

This is a good move from VM, but it can’t rely solely on a partnership with Netflix and the bog-standard UK TV channels; it needs to do more to bring in exciting content partners.

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Just About to cancel Now TV entertainment pass and they have offered us the next 4 months for just over £13.

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35942288)

Just About to cancel Now TV entertainment pass and they have offered us the next 4 months for just over £13.

That's pretty common when I had the Cinema Pass they did that several times.

Re: Netflix/Streaming Services

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35942290)

That's pretty common when I had the Cinema Pass they did that several times.

l will try the same trick in 4 months then MM.;)

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35942291)

l will try the same trick in 4 months then MM.;)

Don't cancel before you see season 7 of Game of Thrones, Den!

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35942309)

Don't cancel before you see season 7 of Game of Thrones, Den!

And what date does that come on OB?.