Re: Will Scotland Leave the UK?
 

On the subject of referenda my sons would both like a referendum on kicking Scotland out of the UK, wonder what the result of that would be.

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Seems extremely unfair that those opposed have to raise money and go through all the trouble every few years, just because the taxpayer funded SNP says so.
As I've previously said, if the polls were very in favour of independence, she might have more of a case to argue. Something like this shouldn't be so narrow based, that "which way the wind is blowing" on the day of the vote might affect the outcome.

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That's why there is an argument for supermajorities being required for such fundamental change but given the precedent has already been sent with the 2014 referendum it's unlikely to be proposed for subsequent ones. Comes across too much like you're stacking the deck.

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It comes across as stacking the deck because that's exactly what it is.

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I’m still waiting to hear how her economic strategy will demonstrate how she intends to ensure that Scots are not poorer if they go independent.

Given that England would be better off without the regions, I don’t think those of us south of the border have much to worry about, but I feel sorry for those north of the border, who would become impoverished with independence. The oil won’t be much help to them after 2050.

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The vote for a Welsh assembly was very marginal, less than 7,000 votes in it.
Insisting on having a vote every few years when you don't get your own way, is stacking the deck. Along with the taxpayer funding one side, and that side able to hand out freebies and bribes, all funded by the English taxpayer(they couldn't afford it without English money).

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If they leave then many will be shocked at the cost of prescriptions and uni fees they will have to find, then there will be the roads that they will have to fund.

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Too much of a disconnect between spending levels and taxes that people pay, or rather don't pay. Too many people don't need to be bothered, if taxes have to increase, because it's not their taxes that are going to increase.

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Prescriptions have been free of any charges in Scotland for years, why would independence change that?

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It's Brexit on steroids. I have no idea how people who argued for Remain on the basis of economics can now support Scottish Independence.

Leaving the EU trading bloc was disruptive but at least in that case we had some existing friction there with a physical border and a different currency. If Scotland leaves there is a wide-open border that would presumably have to be closed at some point (especially if they want to join the EU) and there would now be different currencies. A business in Edinburgh that could sell in London just as easily as they could sell in Glasgow would now find a customs border and a currency exchange added to transactions to over 90% of their current domestic market. :spin: It's insane.

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The economic argument might not matter. All about sovereignty and self determination, sound familiar? We voted to be worse off and Scotland might decide to do the same, both daft decisions, but its their choice. Almost 10 years since the last vote so the next generation is here.
Having BJ, a law breaking clown running the UK into the ground hadn't helped matters. Together we're stronger divided we're all weaker, same for Europe and the UK.

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Having a Conservative PM in charge of the UK unpopular with most in Scotland who took Scotland out of the EU against her will should make the best possible conditions for Scottish independence. Yet Scottish independence votes are still only polling at 45%.

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Presumably she can have as many "referendums" as she likes (its just a big vote).
They just wont mean anything [legally] to the rest of the UK, who can just ignore them ?

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Because an independent Scottish Government would not be able to afford such generosity. Remember that quite apart from the full cost of government that it would have to bear, there would no longer be the strength of the British economy or the Barnett formula to rely on anymore. Added to that, oil revenues will decline over the coming three decades as green energy takes over.

There is also the share of the Covid debt they would have to pay back and the trade consequences of a border between Scotland and England.

There are too many negatives and no economic positives.