Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

My interpretation of things is (please someone educate me if I am incorrect) that when Phorm said no medical data is used, I think that was regards to their advertising channels. It will still be likely that medical terms and such will still go through the profiler, but they will not match up with any commercial categories and thus serve no targetted ads.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Pretty much yeah.

Alexander Hanff

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I'm guessing that Kent won't be accepting any advertisers in the healthcare fields into the OIX network, rather than blocking keywords in customer's browsing habits. Same with the adult and gambling industries.

However, those three advertising groups are some of the most aggressive when it comes to promoting their products. So it may all be a matter of them paying the right price. Cynical, I know, but this whole situation revolves around money in the first place.

EDIT / JackSon said it first and better. :D

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

As the technology has never before been the subject of a PIA wouldn't a truely accurate Privacy Impact Assessment require the product being run in a live environment so that scenarios could be created and system response observed?

Or is it just theory based - as in "what if" along the lines of Risk Assessment?

Is there a Phorm/Webwise trial currently in progress?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Its perfectly possible to run in simulation to a reasonable degree of accuracy to be able to run a PIA on what a system says its meant to do and various scenarios based on that.

Unfortunately I doubt you will get in a PIA what a system could do with a few software tweaks, as in this case is possible. I expect the PIA to cover what the system will do initially. This current state is bad enough but the possibilites as stated by Phorm themselves are almost mind boggling.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

According to BT you can tell them the site names and ask them to be added to Phorm/Webwise block list and they won't visit you. that's what they told me when I informed them they did not have consent to visit my websites.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I'm guessing the websites are illegal in a way?

Because if so you'd be destroying your userbase by banning them from the websites.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

No. You can see a list of them Here.

Yes I will be losing a number of users, but watt can I do but ban all of them, because I don't trust BT to do the right thing.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

That's an unwarranted slur.

It strikes me that this could be a good way of putting pressure on the ISPs. I know Google aren't going to actually block an entire ISPs users but even if they were to threaten it it would be headline news.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Even better, if BT's policy of allowing web sites to opt out of having their traffic phormed continues after the trials, I would hope Google would be one of the first to do so - blowing a huge hole in Phorm's business plan.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Will you be opting out of the Virgin Ad Deal? = Yes, Definitely. :mad:

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Who do I contact at BT to have my sites excluded?

I do not want my sites being used to profit anybody. I do not have and never will have adverts on my site. I do not want Phorm to profit by profiling my work and and using it for profit.

Thanks

col

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

There has to my knowledge been two trials however they were illegal and it would appear that they served no other purpose other that finding that webwise has issues that to date have not been addressed,

On a sub issue why would people who have been illegally included in a trial by their ISP and a known spyware Company believe anything they say they will not do, use, look at or process.

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

Do you think 'they' would tell us if there was?

Re: Virgin Media Phorm Webwise Adverts [Updated: See Post No. 1, 77, 102 & 797]
 

I wonder where the PR people are these days? We can be sure that those involved won't be sitting on their thumbs; the stakes are too high. Incidentally, did anyone else have trouble accessing the forum recently? Was the forum down temporarily?