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Paul 22-03-2024 00:18

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172352)
There was a feature about banning u16's from having smartphones on This Morning earlier today. This idea seems to be gaining traction with 83% of parents thinking that this should be done.

Errr... No.....

83% of parents said smartphones are "harmful to young people."

Thats not the same thing as supporting they should be banned, at all.

RichardCoulter 22-03-2024 01:30

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36172364)
Errr... No.....

83% of parents said smartphones are "harmful to young people."

Thats not the same thing as supporting they should be banned, at all.

The information came from This Morning. If (and I don't know if it is for sure) it's from the same survey in the Daily Mirror it looks like they have obtained their figure from the wrong question.

As the actual question as to whether parents support the banning of mobile phones isn't there, I think that they must be two different surveys.

jfman 22-03-2024 06:46

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
The most obvious question being why these 83% almost all buy smart phones for their kids?

RichardCoulter 22-03-2024 15:16

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36172367)
The most obvious question being why these 83% almost all buy smart phones for their kids?

Good point. One parent in a previous link
apologised to their now adult children for buying them smartphones as children after explaining that, at the time, he simply wasn't aware of the damage that they could do or how addictive they could be.

RichardCoulter 23-03-2024 16:18

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Scottish Government to consider how to deal with misogyny.

Should this become a hate crime in Scotland I assume that the Online Safety Act will have to be amended for those who live in Scotland, unless the rest of the UK decides to adopt any measures for simplicity.

If they don't things could get messy as online offences take place where you physically are when you publish the comments so, if someone wanted to make misogynistic comments they could leave Scotland, publish their remarks and then return to Scotland!!

https://www.gov.scot/groups/misogyny...working-group/

Paul 23-03-2024 16:20

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
How do they plan to deal with Misandry ?

jfman 23-03-2024 16:25

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172409)
Scottish Government to consider how to deal with misogyny.

Should this become a hate crime in Scotland I assume that the Online Safety Act will have to be amended for those who live in Scotland, unless the rest of the UK decides to adopt any measures for simplicity.

If they don't things could get messy as online offences take place where you physically are when you publish the comments so, if someone wanted to make misogynistic comments they could leave Scotland, publish their remarks and then return to Scotland!!

https://www.gov.scot/groups/misogyny...working-group/

The Scottish Parliament can’t bind the UK Government to act in reserved areas - which the regulation of telecommunications is.

The Scottish Government do have form for ill thought out legislation though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offens...land)_Act_2012

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender...Scotland)_Bill

RichardCoulter 23-03-2024 17:16

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36172411)
The Scottish Parliament can’t bind the UK Government to act in reserved areas - which the regulation of telecommunications is.

The Scottish Government do have form for ill thought out legislation though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Offens...land)_Act_2012

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender...Scotland)_Bill

No, but if the rest of the UK doesn't voluntarily agree to accept this it could become messy.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36172410)
How do they plan to deal with Misandry ?

There aren't any plans to deal with misandry, which in my opinion there should be.

RichardCoulter 27-03-2024 04:36

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
This programme looks at the indifference by social media companies regarding the deaths of children due to their inaction.

Deny, delay & deflect seems to be their strategy, but a psychologist says he lost sleep for weeks after viewing some if the posts in question.

The coroner for one child says that these posts affected her mental health in a negative way and contributed to her death in a more than minimal way (suicide.)

Generative AI is a new threat on the horizon as it can sound and act like a human, but it just "spews lies" and is said to be a threat to democracy. A Nobel Peace Prize journalist said that she was worried in 2016, but that 2024 will be a tipping point and elections could be impacted by this. She days she's gone from being a passionate supporter of new technology, to a skeptic and is now an activist against it.

The programme asks if, after 20 years, Silicon Valleys radical experiment to connect the world about to implode.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001xlsl

RichardCoulter 28-03-2024 01:01

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Florida to ban social media for under 14's, with parental consent required for 14 & 15 year olds. Legal challenges are expected:

Quote:

A child in their brain development doesn’t have the ability to know that they’re being sucked into these addictive technologies and to see the harm and step away from it, and because of that we have to step in for them,” Paul Renner said at a ceremony for the bill signing held at a Jacksonville school.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...a-ban-children

Paul 28-03-2024 02:24

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
You have to be 13 to join SM sites (facebook, instagram etc) anyway, so hardly much difference.
I'd also love to know how exactly they think they are going to enforce this anymore than the existing age requirements.

Pierre 28-03-2024 08:39

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
It has to be managed by the parents.

My boy has had a smartphone since he was 11, but he has no social media accounts.

He watches YouTube so obviously some content from other platforms will be on there from osmosis but I regularly check his phone.

RichardCoulter 28-03-2024 12:02

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36172639)
You have to be 13 to join SM sites (facebook, instagram etc) anyway, so hardly much difference.
I'd also love to know how exactly they think they are going to enforce this anymore than the existing age requirements.

They ask for your date of birth when joining, so I suppose they will do a run and close the affected accounts.

jfman 28-03-2024 12:56

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172651)
They ask for your date of birth when joining, so I suppose they will do a run and close the affected accounts.

I think he means how it'll be verified as at present it's just a self declaration.

Paul 28-03-2024 18:02

Re: Online Safety Bill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36172651)
They ask for your date of birth when joining, so I suppose they will do a run and close the affected accounts.

Right, because no "child" wanting access ever puts in a false DOB.


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