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Maggy 26-08-2021 09:52
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
He's trying to get all those thousands of people out of Afghanistan and sticking to Trump's decision to leave.

Trump aged 75,Biden aged 78. So anyone care to tell me what 3 years difference actually makes? Speaking as someone who will be 69 in October. Especially as I'm pretty sure there's a fair few OAPs who post here on a regular basis . Especially in view of the fact they keep trying to raise the OAP age to 70 and above here.

papa smurf 26-08-2021 10:34
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maggy (Post 36090986)
He's trying to get all those thousands of people out of Afghanistan and sticking to Trump's decision to leave.

Trump aged 75,Biden aged 78. So anyone care to tell me what 3 years difference actually makes? Speaking as someone who will be 69 in October. Especially as I'm pretty sure there's a fair few OAPs who post here on a regular basis . Especially in view of the fact they keep trying to raise the OAP age to 70 and above here.



That's because people are living longer and the gov is trying to get out of paying pensions, i retired at 61 couldn't imagine working any longer i was knackered, not all old people suffer from dementia but sadly joe does.
3 years of cognitive decline takes it's toll on a person i have seen it happen much quicker than that.

Chris 26-08-2021 10:55
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36090975)
I have listened to his speeches and he bows down to the Taliban,lets them tell us what the US is going to do rather than being the other way around.

He is only giving them legitimacy. He believes that Americans are being allowed to enter the airport in Kabul (which conflicts data from people on the ground). These people have a dark history,especially towards Christians and women. But he trusts them,why?


EDIT:

Ahhhh I just realised why... They promised him ice cream!! (His favourite flavour: Strawberry)
Biden has argued for US withdrawal from Afghanistan for years. It’s almost an article of faith for him. So it’s not surprising he prizes anything that validates his point of view and tries to play down anything that does not (like his own generals warning him of the disaster that has now, in fact, unfolded).

You have to wonder, however, what Donald Trump was thinking, meeting the Taliban in Doha and telling them America would leave Afghanistan. Nothing gives a terrorist group more legitimacy than an American president signing a treaty with it in the presence of global media.

1andrew1 26-08-2021 12:07
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
I think Biden has painted himself into a corner - it's not that he's so trusting of the Taliban.

It's logical for the US and its allies to want to withdraw from occupied countries. But they should only do so once a country is left in sustainable, governable state. That clearly wasn't the case in Afghanistan.

BenMcr 26-08-2021 12:15
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36090996)
not all old people suffer from dementia but sadly joe does.
Verified source for that claim?

Maggy 26-08-2021 12:31
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36090999)
Biden has argued for US withdrawal from Afghanistan for years. It’s almost an article of faith for him. So it’s not surprising he prizes anything that validates his point of view and tries to play down anything that does not (like his own generals warning him of the disaster that has now, in fact, unfolded).

You have to wonder, however, what Donald Trump was thinking, meeting the Taliban in Doha and telling them America would leave Afghanistan. Nothing gives a terrorist group more legitimacy than an American president signing a treaty with it in the presence of global media.
:tu:

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Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36091003)
Verified source for that claim?
:tu:

peanut 26-08-2021 12:54
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36091003)
Verified source for that claim?
I think I saw that it was also classed a 'non-public dementia'.

You've only got to look at the multiple (lots) of videos to make up your own judgement.

BenMcr 26-08-2021 13:07
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36091010)
You've only got to look at the multiple (lots) of videos to make up your own judgement.
I wasn't aware that's how medical diagnosis worked?

GP appointments would be so much quicker 'Hi Peanut, we don't need to run any tests or scans for your medical concern. Some random people on the internet have looked at some videos of you and said you're fine / got problem x"

Carth 26-08-2021 13:10
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091002)
I think Biden has painted himself into a corner - it's not that he's so trusting of the Taliban.

It's logical for the US and its allies to want to withdraw from occupied countries. But they should only do so once a country is left in sustainable, governable state. That clearly wasn't the case in Afghanistan.
How much longer do you think they needed to reach that requirement?

peanut 26-08-2021 13:10
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenMcr (Post 36091012)
I wasn't aware that's how medical diagnosis worked?

GP appointments would be so much quicker 'Hi Peanut, we don't need to run any tests or scans for your medical concern. I've had a look at some video of you and you're fine."
Yeah spot on, that's exactly how it's going for him so far.

1andrew1 26-08-2021 13:25
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36091014)
How much longer do you think they needed to reach that requirement?
That's related less to time and more to competence in the planning and execution of the development of the state.

Carth 26-08-2021 13:44
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36091016)
That's related less to time and more to competence in the planning and execution of the development of the state.
Politicians answer . . . which means you don't have a clue but like to seem informed :p:

Come on, try again . . just a guess will do . . after 15 years or more, how much longer does it take to teach a nation to ride a bike without the use of stabilizers? :D

downquark1 26-08-2021 13:48
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36090975)
I have listened to his speeches and he bows down to the Taliban,lets them tell us what the US is going to do rather than being the other way around.

He is only giving them legitimacy. He believes that Americans are being allowed to enter the airport in Kabul (which conflicts data from people on the ground). These people have a dark history,especially towards Christians and women. But he trusts them,why?


EDIT:

Ahhhh I just realised why... They promised him ice cream!! (His favourite flavour: Strawberry)
He doesn't trust them but they have him over a barrel and he is trying his best to not provoke them.

1andrew1 26-08-2021 13:55
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36091020)
Politicians answer . . . which means you don't have a clue but like to seem informed :p:

Come on, try again . . just a guess will do . . after 15 years or more, how much longer does it take to teach a nation to ride a bike without the use of stabilizers? :D
I don't pretend to know but I'm sure there are case studies of other countries around for you to read.

mrmistoffelees 26-08-2021 13:58
Re: Why is Biden so trusting of the Taliban?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36091020)
Politicians answer . . . which means you don't have a clue but like to seem informed :p:

Come on, try again . . just a guess will do . . after 15 years or more, how much longer does it take to teach a nation to ride a bike without the use of stabilizers? :D
As long as the US has maintained a presence in Germany or South Korea?


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