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Chris 09-02-2021 13:18
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
That great big Union Jack motif will drive the Guardianistas nuts. Imagine them having to produce one of these after they break their big toe while holidaying at their gite.

1andrew1 09-02-2021 13:19
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36069973)
Just got my GHIC (which was requested before Chrimbo).

They could at least have matched the blue to the new passport!
Unless you use a pot of ink labelled black, you can't match the new "blue" EU-manufactured passports. ;)

Sephiroth 09-02-2021 14:12
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36069974)
The Government seems to be reaping what it sowed here. It had the opportunity to extend the withdrawal agreement so that we didn't end up with a last-minute deal which had to be delivered during the worst pandemic in living memory. But it decided against it.
I'm almost at the point of losing my patience with you!

Extending the WA would have shovelled ££ billions to the EU, which is exactly what THEY wanted. It would only have put off the day when they'd hit us with their next bit of nastiness.

Far better to have gotten out (it honours the Referendum) and then use the options available as a last resort if we can't overcome these teething problems.

Furthermore, had we extended the WA partly because of the Pandemic, might we not have been in the situation the Brussels is now battling?

1andrew1 09-02-2021 14:37
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36069986)
I'm almost at the point of losing my patience with you!

Extending the WA would have shovelled ££ billions to the EU, which is exactly what THEY wanted. It would only have put off the day when they'd hit us with their next bit of nastiness.

Far better to have gotten out (it honours the Referendum) and then use the options available as a last resort if we can't overcome these teething problems.

Furthermore, had we extended the WA partly because of the Pandemic, might we not have been in the situation the Brussels is now battling?
If you're genuinely under the impression that we're no longer paying the EU handsomely each year then please look away now! We're paying them £7bn this year, last year we paid them £8bn.

If we'd have extended the withdrawal agreement until 31st December 2021 then I'd like to think the country would be far more normal when it withdrew from the EU than it is now.

That would still have honoured the Referendum result but been more beneficial for the UK's hard-working businesses struggling to cope with the double whammy of the pandemic/home-schooling and Brexit.

jonbxx 09-02-2021 14:52
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36069969)
An interesting comparison. Does the office of High Representative of the EU in London directly embody nearly a thousand years of developing political culture and accountability, in much the same way as these other offices do?
Nope, been around since 1999 under the Treaty of Amsterdam which we signed but hey, you've got to start at some point

Chris 09-02-2021 15:02
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36069995)
which we signed
One of the many benefits of leaving the EU is that we no longer have to hold our noses and go along with the stuff we disagree with, in order to enjoy the supposed benefits.

I don’t consider the UK government’s agreement to a treaty between members of a club we are no longer members of, to be binding on current policy - nor even to be relevant. My old job in corporate affairs once, briefly, compelled me to make a case for liberalisation of casino regulations, something with which I was not very comfortable and which I tolerated as only a minor aspect of my job. Thankfully I left that job long ago and I’m free to express the view that casino regulations in the UK need no liberalisation at all.

1andrew1 09-02-2021 16:21
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Another Brexit jobs bonus for the EU.

Quote:
The boss of JD Sports has said the impact of Brexit has been “considerably worse” than feared and that it plans to open a warehouse site in the EU amid the impact of red tape and delays.

JD Sports said that the warehouse, which will employ about 1,000 staff, could have been built in the UK but will now be within the EU in light of the UK’s exit deal.
https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/new...due-to-brexit/

Pierre 09-02-2021 16:45
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36070008)
Another Brexit jobs bonus for the EU.


https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/new...due-to-brexit/
Do you just trawl the internet looking for anti-UK Brexit stories. They exist of course.

You could always balance them out a bit. I know that it would go against your narrative.

(maybe a couple of paywalls)

http://www.infrastructure-intelligen...t-construction

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-brexit-boost

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...e-brexit-vote/

https://www.theactuary.com/news/2020...s-after-brexit

https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...o-brexit-deal/

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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36069941)
You can't ask for max price when there is no market for your fish, you need to find new markets and price accordingly.
Plus we are in lockdown so restaurants are shut.
help is on offer.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2...cheme-now-open

1andrew1 09-02-2021 17:10
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36070013)
Do you just trawl the internet looking for anti-UK Brexit stories. They exist of course.

You could always balance them out a bit. I know that it would go against your narrative.

(maybe a couple of paywalls)

http://www.infrastructure-intelligen...t-construction

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...g-brexit-boost

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business...e-brexit-vote/

https://www.theactuary.com/news/2020...s-after-brexit

https://eandt.theiet.org/content/art...o-brexit-deal/

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help is on offer.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/2...cheme-now-open
I just post newsworthy items when they make the headlines. I don't travel back to 2020 to find Brexit stories to suit a particular narrative.

I've already posted the jobs boost for Nissan when it happened, not weeks later. Apologies if posting this good news story upset your narrative, I must try harder next time. :D

Sephiroth 10-02-2021 12:51
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Let us not be in doubt that the EU institutions are under orders to make it difficult for the UK. The evidence is too strong.

1/
Permanently banning our shellfish from being landed in the EU.

2/
The vaccine bru-ha-ha.

3/
The inability of musicians etc to tour the EU.

4/
The diplomatic status spat (we musty not give way - the EU is an International Organisation not a state).

Fortunately, the UK can be difficult on the issuance of fishing licences within our 6 mile limit. It is ridiculous that they can land molluscs caught in our waters but we can't.

1andrew1 10-02-2021 14:38
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36070091)
Let us not be in doubt that the EU institutions are under orders to make it difficult for the UK. The evidence is too strong.

1/
Permanently banning our shellfish from being landed in the EU.

2/
The vaccine bru-ha-ha.

3/
The inability of musicians etc to tour the EU.

4/
The diplomatic status spat (we musty not give way - the EU is an International Organisation not a state).

Fortunately, the UK can be difficult on the issuance of fishing licences within our 6 mile limit. It is ridiculous that they can land molluscs caught in our waters but we can't.
The British Government declined offers to allow musicians to tour as they said it went against the referendum vote by allowing freedom of movement. Hopefully, with the traditional balance of payments surplus that the UK enjoys in this area BoJo will do a U-turn on this.

The Government signed a rushed deal and our fishermen are suffering as a result. The government's solution is to throw more taxpayer's money in their direction.

pip08456 10-02-2021 15:06
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36070102)
The British Government declined offers to allow musicians to tour as they said it went against the referendum vote by allowing freedom of movement. Hopefully, with the traditional balance of payments surplus that the UK enjoys in this area BoJo will do a U-turn on this.

The Government signed a rushed deal and our fishermen are suffering as a result. The government's solution is to throw more taxpayer's money in their direction.
Did it?

Quote:
Now, a government spokesperson has denied the claims.

“This story is incorrect and misleading speculation from anonymous EU sources,” a spokesperson told NME. “The UK pushed for a more ambitious agreement with the EU on the temporary movement of business travellers, which would have covered musicians and others, but our proposals were rejected by the EU.”
https://www.nme.com/news/music/uk-go...ans-eu-2852655

jonbxx 10-02-2021 17:00
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36070091)
Let us not be in doubt that the EU institutions are under orders to make it difficult for the UK. The evidence is too strong.

1/
Permanently banning our shellfish from being landed in the EU.

2/
The vaccine bru-ha-ha.

3/
The inability of musicians etc to tour the EU.

4/
The diplomatic status spat (we musty not give way - the EU is an International Organisation not a state).

Fortunately, the UK can be difficult on the issuance of fishing licences within our 6 mile limit. It is ridiculous that they can land molluscs caught in our waters but we can't.
We should have words with our representative for fisheries when that shellfish ban was decided and brought in back in 2011. It was a Mr Nigel Farage I believe...

nomadking 10-02-2021 17:04
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
I assume all the Eastern European shops(eg Polish) are having difficulty getting their stock into this country? Or are we too soft.

Angua 10-02-2021 17:06
Re: Britain outside the EU
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36070116)
I assume all the Eastern European shops(eg Polish) are having difficulty getting their stock into this country? Or are we too soft.
At the moment importing from the EU is okay. This will change in April.


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