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Just as intended you rose to the bait Mr K. I notice you wish to deflect from the straw poll by bringing Mr Trump into it.

Now let's have your honest opinion. @remain eu started a poll on twitter asking if the referendum was re-run how would you vote. So far it is overwhelmingly leave.

If you would like to debate this sensibly I don't mind as I'm sure others would also.

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This poll puts leave at 51%.
https://twitter.com/remain_leave

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Different poll Andrew.

https://twitter.com/remain_eu

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My son was invited to visit the houses of parliament. While it's true many of their lordships are pretty experienced in years what often looks like a snooze may not be. Their seats are fitted with "hidden" speakers and since some are a little hard of hearing will sit in a way to get their ears closer so they can actually hear. (Of course this could also be used to excuse a little nap too!)

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I heard they're also equipped with discreet little buttons enabling them to multitask such vitally important functions as ordering their subsidised food/wine/cigars, checking their expenses and booking their taxis home...

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Since the referendum of the 12 remain voters four have said if it was rerun they would vote leave not sure whats changed their mind but none of those who voted leave have changed to remain and a few others i chat with on the net have said they have experienced the same. Obviously not conclusive or even remotely suggestive of a larger trend but I'm not so sure a rerun would end with a majority remain vote.

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I reckon if it were re-run now it would probably be about 55% leave. But I reckon once Article 50 has been invoked then it may revert to 45% leave.

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I think the majority for leave would increase significantly, doesn't stop me suggesting it happen in other places though just to watch brextremists heads explode at the thought of it

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Andrew i know you may not believe it or understand it but most if not 99% of people that voted leave understood more about article 50 then most remainers given the amount of remain supporters calling for a soft brexit which article 50 practically makes impossible. Once article 50 is started it's a oneway street that leavers want to go down so not sure why you think a good proportion of leave voters would suddenly change to remain.

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i could never change to remain i would feel as though i had betrayed my country in favor of a foreign power .

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No, it would mean your head had ruled your heart. Talk of 'betrayal', 'traitors', 'foreign powers' are emotive tabloid cobblers. People need to (and will when it's too late) wake up to the economic reality.
(P.s it's 'favour', we're British after all...)

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If money is all you care about then that's your call :(

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For those who don't use Twitter (Self included) managed to get the following poll results: Sample size is 56,000 votes: 69% Leave : 27% Remain : 5% Would not vote.

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It's not about whether you have an expensive TV or not.

It's about whether there's enough money to care for the elderly and not to ration operations. It's about whether there's enough places at schools and colleges. It's about whether public transport is available to allow people who can't drive the chance to find work further afield. It's about the chance to re-train people in new roles as mechanisation takes over in factories and in delivery and transport jobs.

If someone is well off, they can buy all those things privately, send their children to public schools, pay for their university fees, etc. So the country being poorer is less of an issue. Maybe one less ski trip a year if they really have to cut back.

Most people in the UK, however hard they work, aren't in this situation. That's why the wealth of the country is important.

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Load of crap : My parents were born in the 50's and they said they managed fine. They said country was brought to it's knees in 1972 (When we came to be on the EU bloc) and they said it was downhill from then on in.