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Well, he doesn't have much space to say his piece, that was actually quite a lot for him.
Russ has on many occasions only mentioned one of the "rules" to be a christian, yet that does not mean he is claiming that just following that one "rule" makes you a christian is he?


Very, bad CF team members ;)

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Our very own Russ. An Agnostic :spin: :)

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In yer dreams :D

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Afraid its against forum policy for me to do that, I've just tried.
Guess you'll just have to stick to using some intelligence.


I've no idea what all the beliefs you know of on how to enter heaven.


So you believe that humans don't evolve, animals do, neandethals are related to humans so they too would have to be decendants of Adam but you've never wondered why you believed this?

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Would you like me to amend your sig for you?

I'm not convinced neanderthals are an offshoot of humans. Related of course but I don't agree they are close enough to subject to the same laws. I'd be more inclined to believe God created them and gave them their natural lifespan, a short term version of apes so to speak.

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If I trusted you, I'd have no problem with that, but I don't, so I'd rather you kept your hands to yourself.
Besides, applying your intelligence to the quote shouldn't be an issue should it?

If they're related, they must have a common ancester.
If the ancester of humans is Adam, then he too must be the ancester of neandethals.

I have to agree with regards to neandethals being an offshoot of humans, although I don't believe evolutionist think they're an offshoot either, more, as I said above in relation to the belief you shared with us, they had a common ancester. (your belief that you shared with us being that they are related)

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All I'm proposing to do is put 'Some' at the start and refer it it as the 'amended' Meditation. The problem with it at the moment is people might think it's correct.

Again, that's going on human rules. You know fully well that I believe God's creation are subject to his rules, not ours.

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That's nice Russ, but still would rather you don't go near it.
It's a direct quote, modifying it would be putting words into someone else's mouth, and you've mentioned that you never like doing that or having it done to you.

I know mistakes can be made (and by that I mean honest mistakes and accidents) when modifying people's account details, it happens all over the net every day.

It would also mean going through everyone's sigs and modifying them all, which I doubt anyone would thank you for, nor would I expect you to do that, not even for some of the obvious online petition sigs that I've seen.

So an animal can be related to a human (and we're not talking about the Maine way here!), but not have any biological links?
Could you explain what you base that belief on?

I thought it was your god's rule that an animal can only give birth do another animal of the same species?

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I'm not saying I think neanderthals are animals!

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Ah that helps :)
Could you please give us the Russ B explaination of the origin of neandethals?

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There isn't one - as I've said before I've never spent much time worrying about it, and neither should I need to!

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I wonder if my feeling of religious people not questioning things because god is a satisfactory answer to them is similar to your feeling of non-religious people not accepting god as a satisfactory answer?

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So If neanderthals are not animals but look like humans then that means they must be humans or that humans are descendant from them. After all that would seem to be the only sane solution one could come to.

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Whether or not that's true, my position is that as long as one person's view doesn't encroach on another's then live and let live - without the petty insults, digs and attempts to change the others' way of thinking. However there is plenty I don't question, simply because I see no need to and don't want to waste my time.

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Yes, remember that :)