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Hugh 21-04-2026 12:06
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214247)
aah, thanks for explaining, although it's a fancy name for a secretary isn't it?

:D
Permanent Under-Secretary

Carth 21-04-2026 13:53
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Under the circumstances, I think 'permanent' was a tad shorter than expected :D

Chris 21-04-2026 14:59
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Permanent secretary means senior civil servant in a government department, as opposed to a private secretary who is an MP working for a minister.

Carth 21-04-2026 15:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36214255)
Permanent secretary means senior civil servant in a government department, as opposed to a private secretary who is an MP working for a minister.
They make things complicated don't they, no wonder they look confused most of the time

Dingbat 21-04-2026 15:57
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214256)
They make things complicated don't they, no wonder they look confused most of the time
Think back to Yes, Minister and the ways in which Sir Humphrey and other senior civil servants were able to manipulate their ministers.

Even Thatcher knew how accurate the depictions of the government were.

Itshim 21-04-2026 19:57
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36214257)
Think back to Yes, Minister and the ways in which Sir Humphrey and other senior civil servants were able to manipulate their ministers.

Even Thatcher knew how accurate the depictions of the government were.
It seems a 5 year old can manipulate Starmer :p:

Sephiroth 21-04-2026 20:11
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There's a big disjoint in Starmer's case. He's complaining that he wasn't told that Mandelson had failed vetting. Yet, Mandelson was actually granted DV status. It was within the PUS' remit to grant clearance if the mitigations were achievable.

The disjoint arises because he pleads guilty to poor judgement in choosing Mandelson. To deflect this away, Starmer complains of something that isn't true: Namely that he wasn't told that Mandelson had failed vetting.

The UKVS vetting is just one stage in the process. The process is only complete when the procuring senior officer has rendered a decision.

So, squirm, baby, squirm. More fun to come, plus May 7th.

1andrew1 21-04-2026 20:36
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Starmer will survive thiis. What happens after the May elections is another matter but his chances of survival would probably be zero if Andy Burnham was now an MP.

Carth 21-04-2026 21:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
I think they should tell him to bugger off and take his baggage with him . . then they can get that nice Dianne Abbott back and have her as PM . . she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D

thenry 21-04-2026 21:13
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
She's fake. She wears a wig.

Carth 21-04-2026 21:20
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214276)
She's fake. She wears a wig.
A lot of clowns do mate ;)

GrimUpNorth 22-04-2026 06:29
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214275)
I think they should tell him to bugger off and take his baggage with him . . then they can get that nice Dianne Abbott back and have her as PM . . she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D
Could you imagine a Di and Don press conference :shocked:.

1andrew1 22-04-2026 06:53
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214275)
. she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D
People said something similar about Trump. We're not laughing now!

Itshim 22-04-2026 07:17
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
At least Boris was entertaining. Starmer is like a old wooden puppet. With Rachel from accounts looking like a nodding dog next to him. Looking forward to Vince's role model at question time, ignoring any and every question put to him.

1andrew1 22-04-2026 07:56
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214286)
At least Boris was entertaining.
"At least they died laughing" is one way of excusing deaths due to his Covid bungles I guess!

TheDaddy 22-04-2026 12:56
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214286)
At least Boris was entertaining.
Was he though, I saw through his act after his 2nd or 3rd appearance on have I Got News For You and you know he has been using that act to get away with things since boarding school but yeah that fool of the telly, let's vote for him :spin:

Sephiroth 22-04-2026 13:49
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Starmer made it through PMQs today without being made to squirm. A pity. He has now settled on the argument that he should have been told that Mandelson failed UKSV. He called that omission an "error of judgement" on Olly Robbins' part.

Starmer denied that #10 had put pressure on the FO to approve the appointment (which they did).

That leaves us with May 7th, it seems.

Sirius 22-04-2026 15:16
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214298)
Starmer made it through PMQs today without being made to squirm. A pity. He has now settled on the argument that he should have been told that Mandelson failed UKSV. He called that omission an "error of judgement" on Olly Robbins' part.

Starmer denied that #10 had put pressure on the FO to approve the appointment (which they did).

That leaves us with May 7th, it seems.
He will be gone after May. I predict a seismic shift in voting.

Carth 22-04-2026 16:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36214304)
He will be gone after May. I predict a seismic shift in voting.
Can all the super intelligent and world wise 16 year olds vote yet?

Paul 22-04-2026 17:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214308)
Can all the super intelligent and world wise 16 year olds vote yet?
No, not atm.

Mr K 22-04-2026 17:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214308)
Can all the super intelligent and world wise 16 year olds vote yet?
Given the state of the country due to the votes of super intelligent oldsters, then they have a right to have a say in their future ( more so than the rest of us).

thenry 23-04-2026 15:31
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Is this seriously what the police get up to now days?



Shorter version

Carth 23-04-2026 16:07
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and even quacks like a duck . . it could still be a fake

Paul 23-04-2026 17:33
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Who is this Matisse ?
Google suggests an Artist who died in 1954.

(The arrest, btw, looks fake to me).

thenry 23-04-2026 17:47
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A Chelsea superfan. Has his own YouTube channel named MAH

I find it weird them mistaking him for Liam Rosenior. He looks nothing like him. There's no mention of his blind support for Liam Rosenior. Can I say the only distinction is skin tone? May be glasses.

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My point was where have the police found time to put this shit show on.

nomadking 23-04-2026 17:59
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214364)
A Chelsea superfan. Has his own YouTube channel named MAH

I find it weird them mistaking him for Liam Rosenior. He looks nothing like him. There's no mention of his blind support for Liam Rosenior. Can I say the only distinction is skin tone? May be glasses.

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My point was where have the police found time to put this shit show on.
Fake. 2 different sets of officers and wearing 2 different tops,

thenry 23-04-2026 18:03
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Where did they get the car from?

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They put him behind the driver which isn't allowed.

Hugh 23-04-2026 18:04
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214369)
Where did they get the car from?

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They put him behind the driver which isn't allowed.
That’ll be "it’s not real" thing…

thenry 23-04-2026 18:06
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
I'm not questioning it's factual existence. I'm wondering where the police have found time to take part in this.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214356)
Is this seriously what the police get up to now days?

jem 23-04-2026 18:14
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214373)
I'm not questioning it's factual existence. I'm wondering where the police have found time to take part in this.

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The police didn’t, it’s all a stunt, presumably to boost ‘views’!

Anyone can dress up as a police officer, paint a car to look like a police car, it's not illegal - unless, you do it in public and claim to be a legitimate police officer. Which they didn’t - it’s a staged publicity stunt with actors.

Pathetic really.

OLD BOY 28-04-2026 08:17
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214373)
I'm not questioning it's factual existence. I'm wondering where the police have found time to take part in this.

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You mustn’t get taken in by these videos. They can be manipulated by AI and they look real. They could just as easily have made it look as thought it was Trump and Vance in police uniforms.

There are plenty of these videos doing the rounds now, and this will only increase - exponentionally.

You can’t believe what you see on videos these days.

GrimUpNorth 28-04-2026 19:18
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Just done my postal vote and only 1 out of my 3 votes is for Labour (and that's only because I know her). 18 candidates in my ward.

The sooner we get shut of Keir the liberal the better.

Hom3r 29-04-2026 10:52
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
So Labour MPs who don't want SKS to face an enquiry obviously don't want to be an MP, as no doubt they will be ousted soon.

papa smurf 29-04-2026 14:08
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36214627)
So Labour MPs who don't want SKS to face an enquiry obviously don't want to be an MP, as no doubt they will be ousted soon.
the public saw them thwart an investigation, they won't forget

1andrew1 29-04-2026 14:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hom3r (Post 36214627)
So Labour MPs who don't want SKS to face an enquiry obviously don't want to be an MP, as no doubt they will be ousted soon.
The general election is still some way off.

Sephiroth 29-04-2026 14:27
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
The public can't be trusted. See the Greens for details.

1andrew1 29-04-2026 15:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214635)
The public can't be trusted. See the Greens for details.
Agreed, we can go back 10 years ago too. ;)

thenry 30-04-2026 17:00
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Terror threat level upgraded to severe after Golders Green attack

https://news.sky.com/story/follow-la...#liveblog-body
Is this a stick to beat Starmer with? Does he hold any accountability to the countrys threat level?

Carth 30-04-2026 17:13
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"The UK's terror threat level has been raised from substantial to severe after the attack in Golders Green yesterday."

"This means an attack is likely in the next six months."

*phew* for a nasty minute I thought things were worse than they are :rolleyes:

papa smurf 09-05-2026 07:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
The good news is sir kier won't resign and "plunge the country into chaos"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Carth 09-05-2026 10:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215138)
The good news is sir kier won't resign and "plunge the country into chaos"

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
He hasn't finished his book yet, give it another few months ;)

Sephiroth 09-05-2026 12:25
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Starmer: I need a genius to help get us on the growth track.

Reeves: I know just the person. Gordon Brown.

Starmer: Brilliant.

papa smurf 09-05-2026 14:21
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215152)
Starmer: I need a genius to help get us on the growth track.

Reeves: I know just the person. Gordon Brown.

Starmer: Brilliant.
nearly fell off the sofa when i saw this on the news, straight from the bottom of the barrel :dunce:

Carth 09-05-2026 16:45
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rearranging the deckchairs on the . . damn, what was the name of that unsinkable ship?

:D

TheDaddy 09-05-2026 16:56
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215153)
nearly fell off the sofa when i saw this on the news, straight from the bottom of the barrel :dunce:
Apparently he is rated as the best post war Chancellor, he's certainly better than anyone else this century at least

Itshim 09-05-2026 17:22
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36215158)
Apparently he is rated as the best post war Chancellor, he's certainly better than anyone else this century at least
It's a very low bar:cool: by the way which war ?

Sephiroth 09-05-2026 17:39
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36215158)
Apparently he is rated as the best post war Chancellor, he's certainly better than anyone else this century at least
But he was not rated as the best Prime Minister; quite the contrary and the public threw him out in 2010.

Remember, as chancellor, he sold off 50% of our gold stock when the market price was at the bottom of the cycle.

All this points to the utter incompetence of Starmer and Reeves having got to the stage of failure that needs Gordon Brown to be brought in. The press will have a field day.

Itshim 09-05-2026 19:10
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215163)
But he was not rated as the best Prime Minister; quite the contrary and the public threw him out in 2010.

Remember, as chancellor, he sold off 50% of our gold stock when the market price was at the bottom of the cycle.

All this points to the utter incompetence of Starmer and Reeves having got to the stage of failure that needs Gordon Brown to be brought in. The press will have a field day.
Please keep them in office, from what I've seen whom ever replaced them would be even more dense.

papa smurf 11-05-2026 11:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
after his more of the same speech, the short version of my reply, door arse on the way out.

Sephiroth 11-05-2026 12:04
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Starmer put on his best Patrick Christy's imitation and his best mono-face to provide a content-free speech. No small boats mention, nothing about the "how" Labour will "be better and do better in the months and tears ahead". He also said that "... if we don't get this right our country will go down a very dark path".

"Strength through fairness" he mumbled. Unfair to whom, though?

Did he say anything worthwhile? Yes - full national ownership of British Steel.

"Britain will be at the heart of Europe to make us stronger". Nothing about how that will "make us stronger".

"Every child should go as far as their talent or effort takes them. It's a beautiful idea". No shit! But where's the money coming from for the SEND kids he mentioned? He's guaranteed them ALL a placement. At least that's measurable.

He extolled "this diverse country". A big fail, obviously.

The whole thing - undeliverable.

papa smurf 11-05-2026 12:09
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
50 mp's now calling for him to go

thenry 11-05-2026 15:04
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
My local MP is one of them

https://www.sussexexpress.co.uk/news...resign-8516856

I'm surprised he himself survived

Sirius 11-05-2026 15:43
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215244)
Starmer put on his best Patrick Christy's imitation and his best mono-face to provide a content-free speech. No small boats mention, nothing about the "how" Labour will "be better and do better in the months and tears ahead". He also said that "... if we don't get this right our country will go down a very dark path".

"Strength through fairness" he mumbled. Unfair to whom, though?

Did he say anything worthwhile? Yes - full national ownership of British Steel.

"Britain will be at the heart of Europe to make us stronger". Nothing about how that will "make us stronger".

"Every child should go as far as their talent or effort takes them. It's a beautiful idea". No shit! But where's the money coming from for the SEND kids he mentioned? He's guaranteed them ALL a placement. At least that's measurable.

He extolled "this diverse country". A big fail, obviously.

The whole thing - undeliverable.
He's a dead man walking as far as his job goes.

Sephiroth 11-05-2026 16:02
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Trouble is, his ministers "have got the foreman's job at last". So, head above parapet scuppers that. So, the knife has to come from the left. Then we're truly stuffed.

There's worse to come.

Carth 11-05-2026 16:20
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
I'm gonna sell the car and fill the garage with tins of beans :D

Sephiroth 11-05-2026 16:34
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215257)
I'm gonna sell the car and fill the garage with tins of beans :D
Just fill the car with beans then you can keep them both in the garage.

Carth 11-05-2026 16:52
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
The car will be on the drive, full of potatoes :LOL:

Sephiroth 11-05-2026 17:02
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
What about the carrots?

papa smurf 11-05-2026 18:42
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
over 60 mp's now calling for starmer to go

Carth 11-05-2026 18:48
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215270)
over 60 mp's now calling for starmer to go
He's not going to get that book finished is he. Maybe he's just going to turn his 'political experiences' into a 20 page magazine . . . with pictures . . and free crayons :D

Paul 11-05-2026 19:34
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
This topic is looking like it may be replaced soon, like him.

Hom3r 11-05-2026 21:10
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
SKS will be gone within days (or setting a time table)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215270)
over 60 mp's now calling for starmer to go

72 now

Sephiroth 11-05-2026 21:15
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
If Starmer falls tomorrow (Tuesday), that'll screw up the King's Speech on Wednesday. Love it!

Hom3r 11-05-2026 22:12
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Currently 17th shortest term for a PM

papa smurf 12-05-2026 06:19
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
79 mp's starmer on life support who will pull the plug

Itshim 12-05-2026 06:24
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Labour spokesmen says populist parties need to be stopped, does that mean labour is an unpopular party?

Hugh 12-05-2026 06:40
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
You are conflating two different meaning words…

"Populist" ≠ "Popular"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-43301423

papa smurf 12-05-2026 07:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
neenaww neenawww look out it's the dictionary police

Hugh 12-05-2026 07:57
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215297)
neenaww neenawww look out it's the dictionary police
Ah, the old populist approach - "look at these urban elitists, using the correct meanings of words…" ;)

As Orwell said "doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words to manipulate perception and avoid accountability"

Itshim 12-05-2026 08:18
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215300)
Ah, the old populist approach - "look at these urban elitists, using the correct meanings of words…" ;)

As Orwell said "doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words to manipulate perception and avoid accountability"
:zzz:
Looking at the populist party UK , it's seems closer to labour than anything else but perhaps ,............

Damien 12-05-2026 09:47
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
A populist can be unpopular (Trump). They do mean different things.

Sephiroth 12-05-2026 10:03
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Who cares? Populist / schmopulist. As long as it’s not Starmer, Miliband or any other net-zeroist, things might get better.

papa smurf 12-05-2026 10:59
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215300)
Ah, the old populist approach - "look at these urban elitists, using the correct meanings of words…" ;)

As Orwell said "doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words to manipulate perception and avoid accountability"
Homer Simpson said yadder yadder yadder

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i see starmer has valiantly put himself before the country , by deciding to become a Klingon and drag the party and the country through hell by insisting he wont go

Sephiroth 12-05-2026 11:19
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215307)
Homer Simpson said yadder yadder yadder

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i see starmer has valiantly put himself before the country , by deciding to become a Klingon and drag the party and the country through hell by insisting he wont go
A Ferengi, more likely.

OLD BOY 12-05-2026 11:37
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36215300)
Ah, the old populist approach - "look at these urban elitists, using the correct meanings of words…" ;)

As Orwell said "doublespeak is language that deliberately obscures, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words to manipulate perception and avoid accountability"
Yes, like calling ‘Islamophobia’ racist. Dreadful state of affairs!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215307)
Homer Simpson said yadder yadder yadder

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i see starmer has valiantly put himself before the country , by deciding to become a Klingon and drag the party and the country through hell by insisting he wont go
Quick everybody, grab the ‘No Kings’ banners! Starmer is not my king!

Hugh 12-05-2026 12:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215307)
Homer Simpson said yadder yadder yadder

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i see starmer has valiantly put himself before the country , by deciding to become a Klingon and drag the party and the country through hell by insisting he wont go
The person you are using in your "appeal to authority" fallacy is described in Wikipedia as "overweight, balding, immature, unintelligent, outspoken, aggressive, lazy, ignorant, unprofessional".

I can see why you chose him…

Sephiroth 12-05-2026 13:50
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 

There you are, Papa. You've been told!

Carth 12-05-2026 15:30
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215328)

There you are, Papa. You've been told!
The good thing is, Papa won't be clogging up a doctors waiting room hoping to get 6 months on sick with mental health issues because of it ;)

papa smurf 12-05-2026 15:45
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215330)
The good thing is, Papa won't be clogging up a doctors waiting room hoping to get 6 months on sick with mental health issues because of it ;)
can i claim benefits if i do

nomadking 12-05-2026 15:51
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Whatever way you look at it, the King's Speech tomorrow looks meaningless as things will change.

papa smurf 12-05-2026 16:02
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36215332)
Whatever way you look at it, the King's Speech tomorrow looks meaningless as things will change.
yea but it gives him something to do, one can't go out for lunch every day

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215328)

There you are, Papa. You've been told!
it's been a life changing experience

Carth 13-05-2026 15:05
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Proof I don't understand politics:

Most of what Starmer did was probably with guidance and approval from the very same people now trying to pull the rug from under his feet. If I'm wrong on this, why isn't the Government just a one man band?

1andrew1 13-05-2026 15:11
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Starmer has 'full confidence' in Streeting, No 10 says - amid talk of leadership challenge
https://news.sky.com/story/starmer-l...tions-12593360

That's very good of Starmer but do Streeting and the electorate have confidence in Starmer? ;)

Sephiroth 13-05-2026 15:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
"Full confidence" = "Be gone".

papa smurf 13-05-2026 16:06
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36215397)
Proof I don't understand politics:

Most of what Starmer did was probably with guidance and approval from the very same people now trying to pull the rug from under his feet. If I'm wrong on this, why isn't the Government just a one man band?
because there would be no one to throw under the bus when you mess up

Kursk 13-05-2026 16:21
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Kemi for PM please. ASAP :tu:

Carth 13-05-2026 16:22
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36215402)
because there would be no one to throw under the bus when you mess up
aah yes, the idiot that pops his head over the parapet to be famous . .

Jaymoss 13-05-2026 16:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36215403)
Kemi for PM please. ASAP :tu:
A whole new political system based on the welfare of the people and not the self. A pipe dream I know but I would rather fantasise about an ideal than be aware of the shit show going on around us which will just get worse with a few moments of getting better before going back to getting worse again until we die.

It does not matter who gets voted in because it is all just a pointless waste of time.
As you can see I am on a bit of a downer at present but this is how I feel when relatively happy too anyway

Sephiroth 13-05-2026 16:27
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36215403)
Kemi for PM please. ASAP :tu:
Yes - but after she's purged some of the losers on her front bench, particularly Patel, Atkins & Cleverley.

Kursk 13-05-2026 16:40
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215405)
A whole new political system based on the welfare of the people and not the self. A pipe dream I know but I would rather fantasise about an ideal than be aware of the shit show going on around us which will just get worse with a few moments of getting better before going back to getting worse again until we die.

It does not matter who gets voted in because it is all just a pointless waste of time.
As you can see I am on a bit of a downer at present but this is how I feel when relatively happy too anyway
Cheer up mate. Listen to what Kemi is saying - the lady has balls.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215406)
Yes - but after she's purged some of the losers on her front bench, particularly Patel, Atkins & Cleverley.
Get behind her Seph....I think a corner is being turned at last :Sun:

Sephiroth 13-05-2026 19:18
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36215408)
Cheer up mate. Listen to what Kemi is saying - the lady has balls.



Get behind her Seph....I think a corner is being turned at last :Sun:
Of course I'm behind her, being a paid up member of Wokingham Conservatives.

But the public will continue to kick the Tories for as long as they see a front bench team made up of those who failed us when in power.

Mr K 13-05-2026 19:27
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36215408)
Cheer up mate. Listen to what Kemi is saying - the lady has balls.
Don't think she does. But I could be wrong Mr(s) Thatcher was a bloke in drag, and that's a fact.

jem 13-05-2026 19:32
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"Get behind her Seph....I think a corner is being turned at last”

Alas the corner being turned might well be a hard-right one!

Yes I do agree that Kemi absolutely takes Starmer apart at PMQs, but removing people such as James Cleverly will do nothing - I’m sure the majority of the electorate will ask ‘James who?’

I think that the battle should be along the lines of ‘yes Reform/Greens/Labour may offer an attractive sounding idea, but is it possibly feasible?’

It’s the same old game of offering apparently simple solutions to what are actually complex issue - it’s all the fault of the <insert name of group here>, and if only they were gotten rid off, then everything would be just peachy.

Jaymoss 13-05-2026 19:50
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Originally Posted by Kursk (Post 36215408)
Cheer up mate. Listen to what Kemi is saying - the lady has balls.



Get behind her Seph....I think a corner is being turned at last :Sun:
So did Thatcher we are still paying the price for that

Paul 13-05-2026 20:13
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215415)
So did Thatcher we are still paying the price for that
Given she was last PM some 35 years ago, what price would that be ?

jem 13-05-2026 20:34
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36215419)
Given she was last PM some 35 years ago, what price would that be ?
Good point, I suspect you won’t get an answer. Personally I blame William Gladstone - but maybe that’s just me.;)

Hom3r 13-05-2026 20:55
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I think this will drag on until September.


Andy need to quit as Mayor and stand as an MP in a Bi-election (its said someone on the news is willing to "retire" early so he can stand)

Jaymoss 13-05-2026 20:57
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36215419)
Given she was last PM some 35 years ago, what price would that be ?

Privatisation the end of looking after the consumer and the start of looking after the share holder. The very fact you felt the need to ask that question astounds me

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Originally Posted by jem (Post 36215421)
Good point, I suspect you won’t get an answer. Personally I blame William Gladstone - but maybe that’s just me.;)
You suspect wrong . Could have wrote a list . Do you and Paul really think we are not effected by what she did ???????

1andrew1 13-05-2026 22:30
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36215411)
Of course I'm behind her, being a paid up member of Wokingham Conservatives
Worth a punt at the bookies as Farage may have to quit his seat :smokin: and Starmer's government is looking as stable as its Conservative predecessors.

Paul 14-05-2026 02:01
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215425)
Privatisation the end of looking after the consumer and the start of looking after the share holder.
If you think that started with her, dream on, looking after the shareholder has always been the priority of companies.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215425)
The very fact you felt the need to ask that question astounds me
The very fact you try and blame anything on someone who was last in power 35 years ago astounds me.
So many PMs since then have made an utter balls up of pretty much everything, to try and blame one person from so long ago now ... is rather silly.

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36215425)
Could have wrote a list . Do you and Paul really think we are not effected by what she did ???????
One question mark is enough, dont be a drama queen.
I have been affected by every PM before and after her, since at least the 1970's.
Yes, I remember the power cuts of 1974, and the "Winter of Discontent" in 1978/79.


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