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Hugh 21-04-2026 12:06
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214247)
aah, thanks for explaining, although it's a fancy name for a secretary isn't it?

:D
Permanent Under-Secretary

Carth 21-04-2026 13:53
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Under the circumstances, I think 'permanent' was a tad shorter than expected :D

Chris 21-04-2026 14:59
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Permanent secretary means senior civil servant in a government department, as opposed to a private secretary who is an MP working for a minister.

Carth 21-04-2026 15:46
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Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36214255)
Permanent secretary means senior civil servant in a government department, as opposed to a private secretary who is an MP working for a minister.
They make things complicated don't they, no wonder they look confused most of the time

Dingbat 21-04-2026 15:57
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214256)
They make things complicated don't they, no wonder they look confused most of the time
Think back to Yes, Minister and the ways in which Sir Humphrey and other senior civil servants were able to manipulate their ministers.

Even Thatcher knew how accurate the depictions of the government were.

Itshim 21-04-2026 19:57
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Originally Posted by Dingbat (Post 36214257)
Think back to Yes, Minister and the ways in which Sir Humphrey and other senior civil servants were able to manipulate their ministers.

Even Thatcher knew how accurate the depictions of the government were.
It seems a 5 year old can manipulate Starmer :p:

Sephiroth 21-04-2026 20:11
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There's a big disjoint in Starmer's case. He's complaining that he wasn't told that Mandelson had failed vetting. Yet, Mandelson was actually granted DV status. It was within the PUS' remit to grant clearance if the mitigations were achievable.

The disjoint arises because he pleads guilty to poor judgement in choosing Mandelson. To deflect this away, Starmer complains of something that isn't true: Namely that he wasn't told that Mandelson had failed vetting.

The UKVS vetting is just one stage in the process. The process is only complete when the procuring senior officer has rendered a decision.

So, squirm, baby, squirm. More fun to come, plus May 7th.

1andrew1 21-04-2026 20:36
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Starmer will survive thiis. What happens after the May elections is another matter but his chances of survival would probably be zero if Andy Burnham was now an MP.

Carth 21-04-2026 21:00
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I think they should tell him to bugger off and take his baggage with him . . then they can get that nice Dianne Abbott back and have her as PM . . she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D

thenry 21-04-2026 21:13
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She's fake. She wears a wig.

Carth 21-04-2026 21:20
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214276)
She's fake. She wears a wig.
A lot of clowns do mate ;)

GrimUpNorth 22-04-2026 06:29
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214275)
I think they should tell him to bugger off and take his baggage with him . . then they can get that nice Dianne Abbott back and have her as PM . . she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D
Could you imagine a Di and Don press conference :shocked:.

1andrew1 22-04-2026 06:53
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214275)
. she was funny as, and we need a good laugh :D
People said something similar about Trump. We're not laughing now!

Itshim 22-04-2026 07:17
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At least Boris was entertaining. Starmer is like a old wooden puppet. With Rachel from accounts looking like a nodding dog next to him. Looking forward to Vince's role model at question time, ignoring any and every question put to him.

1andrew1 22-04-2026 07:56
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214286)
At least Boris was entertaining.
"At least they died laughing" is one way of excusing deaths due to his Covid bungles I guess!

TheDaddy 22-04-2026 12:56
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36214286)
At least Boris was entertaining.
Was he though, I saw through his act after his 2nd or 3rd appearance on have I Got News For You and you know he has been using that act to get away with things since boarding school but yeah that fool of the telly, let's vote for him :spin:

Sephiroth 22-04-2026 13:49
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Starmer made it through PMQs today without being made to squirm. A pity. He has now settled on the argument that he should have been told that Mandelson failed UKSV. He called that omission an "error of judgement" on Olly Robbins' part.

Starmer denied that #10 had put pressure on the FO to approve the appointment (which they did).

That leaves us with May 7th, it seems.

Sirius 22-04-2026 15:16
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36214298)
Starmer made it through PMQs today without being made to squirm. A pity. He has now settled on the argument that he should have been told that Mandelson failed UKSV. He called that omission an "error of judgement" on Olly Robbins' part.

Starmer denied that #10 had put pressure on the FO to approve the appointment (which they did).

That leaves us with May 7th, it seems.
He will be gone after May. I predict a seismic shift in voting.

Carth 22-04-2026 16:12
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Originally Posted by Sirius (Post 36214304)
He will be gone after May. I predict a seismic shift in voting.
Can all the super intelligent and world wise 16 year olds vote yet?

Paul 22-04-2026 17:35
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214308)
Can all the super intelligent and world wise 16 year olds vote yet?
No, not atm.

Mr K 22-04-2026 17:46
Re: Starmer’s chronicles
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36214308)
Can all the super intelligent and world wise 16 year olds vote yet?
Given the state of the country due to the votes of super intelligent oldsters, then they have a right to have a say in their future ( more so than the rest of us).

thenry 23-04-2026 15:31
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Is this seriously what the police get up to now days?



Shorter version

Carth 23-04-2026 16:07
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and even quacks like a duck . . it could still be a fake

Paul 23-04-2026 17:33
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Who is this Matisse ?
Google suggests an Artist who died in 1954.

(The arrest, btw, looks fake to me).

thenry 23-04-2026 17:47
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A Chelsea superfan. Has his own YouTube channel named MAH

I find it weird them mistaking him for Liam Rosenior. He looks nothing like him. There's no mention of his blind support for Liam Rosenior. Can I say the only distinction is skin tone? May be glasses.

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My point was where have the police found time to put this shit show on.

nomadking 23-04-2026 17:59
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214364)
A Chelsea superfan. Has his own YouTube channel named MAH

I find it weird them mistaking him for Liam Rosenior. He looks nothing like him. There's no mention of his blind support for Liam Rosenior. Can I say the only distinction is skin tone? May be glasses.

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My point was where have the police found time to put this shit show on.
Fake. 2 different sets of officers and wearing 2 different tops,

thenry 23-04-2026 18:03
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Where did they get the car from?

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They put him behind the driver which isn't allowed.

Hugh 23-04-2026 18:04
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214369)
Where did they get the car from?

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They put him behind the driver which isn't allowed.
That’ll be "it’s not real" thing…

thenry 23-04-2026 18:06
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I'm not questioning it's factual existence. I'm wondering where the police have found time to take part in this.

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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214356)
Is this seriously what the police get up to now days?

jem 23-04-2026 18:14
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 36214373)
I'm not questioning it's factual existence. I'm wondering where the police have found time to take part in this.

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The police didn’t, it’s all a stunt, presumably to boost ‘views’!

Anyone can dress up as a police officer, paint a car to look like a police car, it's not illegal - unless, you do it in public and claim to be a legitimate police officer. Which they didn’t - it’s a staged publicity stunt with actors.

Pathetic really.


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