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I hassled them and it is only 2 weeks since the switch haha

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Martin Lewis on energy bills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5u-B6xlT4

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I honestly think I jumped bang on right. Got the 49 day email off Octopus searched Martin lewis Energy club cuz it shows all fixes not just those that pay as per his video found the Outfox deal which with the 7% in April will make my payments actually lower than the last years fix and has now gone up so happy days

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What Tariff are you on, mines Fixed Dual Mar 26 12M V3.0 and I see on their site it's now V6.0 with a few minor differences, my Electricity is 0.13p per kWh more expensive and my Gas is 0.06p per kWh cheaper, so not much of a difference.

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Fix'd Dual Feb26 12M v2.0 I got in before the war

21.62
4.92

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Good rates, I didn't really shop around I just grabbed the first fixed rate better than Octopuses, I think these rates are before the April price reductions coming in but not 100%.

Mine
24.89 Electric
5.67 Gas

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mine are dropping in April too :-) did well I think

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Got mine last year.
Fixed until August 2027.

E: 19.63
G: 5.15

These should drop in April, to approx ;

E: 16.10
G: 4.82

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really good fix that

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Octopus have charged me £100 early exit fees, even though my contract ends on 11th April! Not happy, already fired off an email at 5am.

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That is nuts . Nothing on my final bill although they sent a second final bill because they charged me a days usage when they should not but to be pedantic they did charge me the days standing charge . Always did on on X myself

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It shouldn't be too difficult to get it sorted I hope because the rules are set in stone, but they haven't replied to my 5am email yet.

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yeah it is pretty mad they trying that on . Will be glad when I had my payout

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This has now been fixed, but no apology from Octopus from such a ridiculous mistake, so I'm hoping nothing else goes wrong.

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For anyone with smart meters who moved to Outfox, how long before smart meter readings were viewable in their app because I see nothing other than my manual readings?

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They only seem to display the end of month readings, and the current day.

I dont recall exactly how long it took for the current day to appear, a week or two maybe.

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Thanks, do you bother to send any manual readings in? I never did with Octopus but I think I may do a few days before I get billed when I figure out what my bill date is.

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Nope, never sent a manual reading, no need.

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Just had my £249 back off Octopus so quite quick all things considered

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Nice, I've no idea when I'll get mine. Did your last bill from Octopus say final bill because mine hasn't but I am billed upto the day i switched?

So they shouldn't take another direct debit because I am £162.24 in credit but I don't trust them after the last error and don't want to cancel the direct debit just yet.

I've just emailed them to see what happens.

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Since I fixed with Outfox last week their current fixed rate is 22.74p and mine is 24.89p for Electricity, I was expecting the unit rates to increase.

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On holiday at the moment, so not a true representation of real life, but on Saturday the solar panels exported £3.06 of electricity while the batteries cost £0.49 to charge overnight. Bodes well for the summer, when I'm expecting the monthly bill to actually be a credit.

I'm thinking we're looking at >£450/month savings over the year as a whole when you factor in the £300 or so a month we no longer spend on petrol since going electric with the car too. I won't know until this time next year as we've just had building work done so been heating the house with fan heaters etc and had dehumidifiers going for all the plaster and concrete screeds. Big changes done and hope the underfloor heating saves some money on the gas bill too.

When we get some more money together we're hoping to add another extended on the back of the house and at the same time install a heat pump and air conditioning.

Also, because of the batteries, our usage is so low during weekday peak hours, EDF give us 16 hours of free electricity every Sunday. But on a sunny day it'll be better to export at 15p a unit and still consume off-peak at 8p a unit. I need to sit down and work out when the crossover will be - over the last few weeks we've been able to hit around 150kwh of free electricity on Sundays, but that's almost using it for the sake of it.

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Outfox have now pulled their fixed rate tariffs.

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Not surprised after todays news

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Octopuses are still available but it's for 10 months.

If anyone is on the fence on what to do they should seriously think about fixing today if they're able to.

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Been saying that for a few weeks now . Gave up on it

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My fixed deal is starting to look like a good decision.
I wasnt sure taking one for two years was a good idea at the time.
I've never taken one for that long before, but atm, its proving to be an excellent deal.

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Cornwall Insight is predicting that the July to Sept Price Cap will rise by 20%.

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Next week Intelligent Octopus Go is dropping its electricity rates - day rate down from 28 to 26, night rate down from 7 to 5p. Just in time for us becoming an all-EV household. :D

We charged both simultaneously last night for the first time. It looked something like this ….

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1774551457

That’s the big one on our 7kW wall box and the little one on a 3kW three-pin granny charger. The dishwasher is also on, taking advantage of cheap rate running overnight.

So we’ll be sucking the national grid dry on a nightly basis and thankfully avoiding the disastrous prices the local garage is now charging for petrol.

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The image (attachment) you linked to doesnt exist.


I got my new kWh rates from Outfox today, Gas = 4.971p, Elec = 16.603p

Both are inclusive of VAT.

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Very good Electricity rate, I've not had notification of my new rates yet.

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Weird … I’ve uploaded it again.

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Not a good start with Outfox for me too

Final Gas reading with Octopus 10011 I was billed at this figure. I gave both them and Outfox the same reading at the same time.

Got my first Outfox Bill and they some how have an opening reading of 9965 and an estimated reading for this bill of 10001 which is for energy I have already paid for. God knows where they got that figure from

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I've had my final bill for Gas from Octopus, not the Electricity yet.

My new rates from April 1st.

Electricity: 21.868p
Gas. : 5.495p

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Turns out the regulator did not accept my readings thinking I had used to much gas and magically my bills had me paying twice for the same energy

Called them up and was told this and how she worded it triggered me as it is all making me out to be deceitful trying to over egg the old reading to get it at the cheaper rate. So basically they think I am defrauding them out of a measly £15 which is what the over charge is

Also I now have to send proof I am not lying after teller her the reading now is 40 units higher than the wrong estimate you had so how was my reading a lie when I joined. Sent both the octopus bill showing I paid and a timestamped photo of the meter .

Not impressed in the slightest

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My final bill for Octopus Electricity has just come in I owe 74 pence and they will credit me to my bank account by April 13th £161.50.

Still can't see any smart meter reading on my Outfox account so I'm hoping it'll popup the next time I get a monthly bill.

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Whatever reading they settle on must be used by both, so you cannot get charged for the same energy twice, all it will determine is what rate you pay (and to who).
Assuming Outfox is cheaper, then using a lower reading is surely better, more on the cheaper rate with them.

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The unit rates are pretty damn close anyway so any fraud committed would not have been on the gas anyway

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So the Government wants motorists to fill up as normal

https://news.sky.com/story/motorists...-says-13525774

Well Rachael from accounts definitely wants you to as she is making a fortune in additional fuel tax and VAT.

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New rates now showing on the app for my tariff, they have rounded it up to 2 decimal places.

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Our electricity is now 20.2p peak and 4.98p off peak AND the off peak hours have changed from 00:00 to 05:00 to 23:00 to 06:00.

Our gas is 5.33p.

We're with EDF.

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Octopus has now refunded what they owed, so that's me finished with Octopus atleast for a year.

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I switched on March 13th and can now see daily Electricity smart meter readings in the app from March 31st, still no reading for Gas which is starting to annoy me but my bill date is April 20th so there is still time.

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Had my first statement from Outfox and they still appear to be relying on my manual meter readings even though I have 2 working smart meters.

I see a daily smart meter reading in the app for Electricity(unless it's a weekend) but still nothing for Gas so I'll give them 1 more month before contacting them.

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Blair has a go at Milliband.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiykZz5IYRw

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Households could get free electricity for doing washing on sunny weekends.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d44ld97dyo

Dont most people do this anyway ?
We certainly do, so they can dry out in the sun after washing (granted, not always at a weekend).

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The government has to frame it as something they are giving to the public.

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First the "carrot mode": cheaper or free electricity at off-peak times to push the last of the "Luddites" into having a smart meter.

Then we will see "stick" mode: peak power periods become more expensive, training us to only use power at off-peak times. And those periods will be set by the power companies.

Once again, the belief is that we all work 9 to 5 jobs, Monday to Friday, as they believed when Work From Home became a thing.

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With a renewable grid the cheap times are set by the weather not the companies.

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So when the sun goes in and the wind drops to a whisper, we will suddenly have no cheap or free power.

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Yes that's exactly how it works. I had free power over Easter because it was windy.

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https://www.energydashboard.co.uk/live

Just look here, the less blue you see the more likely it is to be cheap.

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Correct. :D

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We get 16 hours free electricity every Sunday from 8am until midnight.

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That’s a good saving, What compan6 is that !

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EDF, if you reduce your peak hous use Monday to Friday (4pm to 7pm) then you get max 16 hours free on Sunday. We're normally not here until after 7 so use very little late afternoon.

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Octopus Prices Don’t Add Up… What’s Really Going On

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXl5DwHOvOo

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2 minutes in to a 7 minute video and he’s still outlining the circumstances. What’s the tl:dr here - what does he think is going on? Youtube videos are such an inefficient way of commincating anything that can be summarised in a paragraph of text and a graph.

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Clickbait

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The longer you view the more they get that is why they waffle

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Outfox have automatically taken my first Gas smart meter reading on 29 April 1.5 months after my switch, I had given up hope and was about to email them to get it sorted.

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Just about to start my first Grid Event with Axle Energy. Will take power from the batteries for an hour to balance the local grid and we'll get £1.15/kWh.

Anyone with a solar and battery system want to get involved they're offering a £20 sign up bonus or I can send you a link where we both get £25. I withdrew my £20 and it was in the bank in seconds,

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April wasn't bad for weather which reflected in my bill :woot:

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£84.04 for me compared to £97.47 for April.

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Energy bills to rise by 13% a year in July, this will affect households on a variable rate, I'm glad I was sensible enough to get onto a fixed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce8pw464986o

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The next price hike "due to the Iran-USA war".

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Sensible people should be on fixed rates by now.

Those rates are alot more than i am paying and I know mine are more expensive than others on here.

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Indeed. :)

Yep, I'm not going to quote mine again, but they are a lot cheaper, and until Mid Aug 2027. :tu:

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Unless of course they are stuck with a penalty. Paying £150 to get out of a contract will not save you money when the rates increase

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Only get a penalty if they're already on a fixed or a smart tariff I guess, a tracker tariff is still likely far better than those above prices, atleast I hope they are.

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Well to be honest anyone not on a fix by now you just can not help some could be stuck to much left in their contracts

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You should only have a penalty if you're already on a fixed contract (or some other non standard tariff).

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The quotes I found all had £100 or £150 charges to exit a fixed tariff early. And none of the fixed ones actually saved me much money at all.

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You don't always have to pay an exit fee on fixed contracts.

I have dual fuel with British Gas on a Fixed Term with a £50 exit fee per fuel, however they state, "you won't pay an exit fee if you switch to another British Gas fixed tariff".

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You dont have to pay one near the end of the contract either, but neither of these is what I actually said. :)

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Just Martin Lewis speaking absolute sense in Select Committee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfLf_NwZwY4

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Octopus starts to limit cheap charging

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umni9zvW1P4

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It's environmentally friendly. I don't understand the concern tbh.

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From my latest Scottish Energy bill: 70% gas

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We dont have any coal power stations anymore, so that seems out of date.

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But we do buy electricity from the continent where they still burn coal.

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Same with a lot of stuff, we're saving the planet by importing stuff from halfway round the World :D

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Weird that at the moment we are importing electricity from Europe to send it to Ireland and Norway. It's also being used to operate pumped hydro systems, which I thought ran at night to use up surplus nighttime electricity in order for the energy to be released during the day.
Gridwatch

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We import mostly from France, Denmark, Belgium etc, and not much of that is produced by coal either (esp in France).
All the current figures knocking about seem to relate to 2024/25, when we still used coal ourselves.

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We appear to have a daytime surplus atm, the current [Octopus] Agile price is negative.

We are mostly always importing and exporting, due to where electricity is needed v generated, its not always possible to distribute it internally.

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A lot depends on when you look at what is generating energy.

Currently, 6.6% Gas, 71.5% Renewables, 12.4% Nuclear/Biomass

https://grid.iamkate.com/

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Similar, from another site.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...chmentid=32274

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VAT on Electricity bills axed from October 2026.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cgrkv8e8l9qt

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A good first step. Now uncouple energy pricing, so that cheaper wind and solar, and nuclear, generation isn’t priced based on the cost of gas.

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Last week I rang my electricity supplier to complain discuss a begging letter I'd received.

During the conversation I casually mentioned the 'free' green energy that so obviously has been produced in the last couple of months . . he agreed there was a lot of it, with the caveat it that much of it was 'wasted' due to being unable to store it efficiently. :shrug:

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They’re working on it…

https://www.drax.com/press_release/u...he-first-time/

From Neil DeGrasse Tyson’s FB page

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There're plenty of old mine shafts in the UK and I'd be very surprised if none were suitable for Gravity Based Energy Storage.

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A large cage at the surface. Fill with illegal immigrants and allow to descend under gravity generating electricity. When at the bottom, the migrants get out and start to climb ladders to reach the distant surface again, thus keeping them contained until their asylum cases are decided. Meanwhile, the empty cage is hoisted back to the surface by the latest batch of illegal immigrants.

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You going to take them to Lidl for food?

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They were all capped after being back filled with concrete so they coudn’t be re-opened.

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