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Jaymoss 10-03-2026 13:05

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36212129)
The Outfox email I got says 4-6 weeks for a final bill, so hoping I don't have issues.

I hassled them and it is only 2 weeks since the switch haha

Taf 11-03-2026 11:58

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Martin Lewis on energy bills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5u-B6xlT4

Jaymoss 11-03-2026 13:36

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36212202)
Martin Lewis on energy bills.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7I5u-B6xlT4

I honestly think I jumped bang on right. Got the 49 day email off Octopus searched Martin lewis Energy club cuz it shows all fixes not just those that pay as per his video found the Outfox deal which with the 7% in April will make my payments actually lower than the last years fix and has now gone up so happy days

SnoopZ 11-03-2026 17:28

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36212204)
I honestly think I jumped bang on right. Got the 49 day email off Octopus searched Martin lewis Energy club cuz it shows all fixes not just those that pay as per his video found the Outfox deal which with the 7% in April will make my payments actually lower than the last years fix and has now gone up so happy days

What Tariff are you on, mines Fixed Dual Mar 26 12M V3.0 and I see on their site it's now V6.0 with a few minor differences, my Electricity is 0.13p per kWh more expensive and my Gas is 0.06p per kWh cheaper, so not much of a difference.

Jaymoss 11-03-2026 17:39

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Fix'd Dual Feb26 12M v2.0 I got in before the war

21.62
4.92

SnoopZ 11-03-2026 18:20

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36212215)
Fix'd Dual Feb26 12M v2.0 I got in before the war

21.62
4.92

Good rates, I didn't really shop around I just grabbed the first fixed rate better than Octopuses, I think these rates are before the April price reductions coming in but not 100%.

Mine
24.89 Electric
5.67 Gas

Jaymoss 11-03-2026 18:24

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mine are dropping in April too :-) did well I think

Paul 11-03-2026 23:57

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Got mine last year.
Fixed until August 2027.

E: 19.63
G: 5.15

These should drop in April, to approx ;

E: 16.10
G: 4.82

Jaymoss 12-03-2026 05:36

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really good fix that

SnoopZ 13-03-2026 07:54

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Octopus have charged me £100 early exit fees, even though my contract ends on 11th April! Not happy, already fired off an email at 5am.

Jaymoss 13-03-2026 08:35

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That is nuts . Nothing on my final bill although they sent a second final bill because they charged me a days usage when they should not but to be pedantic they did charge me the days standing charge . Always did on on X myself

SnoopZ 13-03-2026 12:42

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36212309)
That is nuts . Nothing on my final bill although they sent a second final bill because they charged me a days usage when they should not but to be pedantic they did charge me the days standing charge . Always did on on X myself

It shouldn't be too difficult to get it sorted I hope because the rules are set in stone, but they haven't replied to my 5am email yet.

Jaymoss 13-03-2026 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36212328)
It shouldn't be too difficult to get it sorted I hope because the rules are set in stone, but they haven't replied to my 5am email yet.

yeah it is pretty mad they trying that on . Will be glad when I had my payout

SnoopZ 14-03-2026 06:18

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36212328)
It shouldn't be too difficult to get it sorted I hope because the rules are set in stone, but they haven't replied to my 5am email yet.

This has now been fixed, but no apology from Octopus from such a ridiculous mistake, so I'm hoping nothing else goes wrong.

SnoopZ 14-03-2026 08:50

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For anyone with smart meters who moved to Outfox, how long before smart meter readings were viewable in their app because I see nothing other than my manual readings?

Paul 14-03-2026 13:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36212394)
For anyone with smart meters who moved to Outfox, how long before smart meter readings were viewable in their app because I see nothing other than my manual readings?

They only seem to display the end of month readings, and the current day.

I dont recall exactly how long it took for the current day to appear, a week or two maybe.

SnoopZ 14-03-2026 14:01

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36212414)
They only seem to display the end of month readings, and the current day.

I dont recall exactly how long it took for the current day to appear, a week or two maybe.

Thanks, do you bother to send any manual readings in? I never did with Octopus but I think I may do a few days before I get billed when I figure out what my bill date is.

Paul 14-03-2026 15:30

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Nope, never sent a manual reading, no need.

Jaymoss 16-03-2026 12:09

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Just had my £249 back off Octopus so quite quick all things considered

SnoopZ 16-03-2026 23:24

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36212505)
Just had my £249 back off Octopus so quite quick all things considered

Nice, I've no idea when I'll get mine. Did your last bill from Octopus say final bill because mine hasn't but I am billed upto the day i switched?

So they shouldn't take another direct debit because I am £162.24 in credit but I don't trust them after the last error and don't want to cancel the direct debit just yet.

I've just emailed them to see what happens.

---------- Post added 17-03-2026 at 00:24 ---------- Previous post was 16-03-2026 at 23:00 ----------

Since I fixed with Outfox last week their current fixed rate is 22.74p and mine is 24.89p for Electricity, I was expecting the unit rates to increase.

GrimUpNorth 18-03-2026 03:50

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On holiday at the moment, so not a true representation of real life, but on Saturday the solar panels exported £3.06 of electricity while the batteries cost £0.49 to charge overnight. Bodes well for the summer, when I'm expecting the monthly bill to actually be a credit.

I'm thinking we're looking at >£450/month savings over the year as a whole when you factor in the £300 or so a month we no longer spend on petrol since going electric with the car too. I won't know until this time next year as we've just had building work done so been heating the house with fan heaters etc and had dehumidifiers going for all the plaster and concrete screeds. Big changes done and hope the underfloor heating saves some money on the gas bill too.

When we get some more money together we're hoping to add another extended on the back of the house and at the same time install a heat pump and air conditioning.

Also, because of the batteries, our usage is so low during weekday peak hours, EDF give us 16 hours of free electricity every Sunday. But on a sunny day it'll be better to export at 15p a unit and still consume off-peak at 8p a unit. I need to sit down and work out when the crossover will be - over the last few weeks we've been able to hit around 150kwh of free electricity on Sundays, but that's almost using it for the sake of it.

SnoopZ 19-03-2026 11:44

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Outfox have now pulled their fixed rate tariffs.

Jaymoss 19-03-2026 11:46

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Not surprised after todays news

SnoopZ 19-03-2026 11:48

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36212704)
Not surprised after todays news

Octopuses are still available but it's for 10 months.

If anyone is on the fence on what to do they should seriously think about fixing today if they're able to.

Jaymoss 19-03-2026 12:07

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Been saying that for a few weeks now . Gave up on it

Paul 19-03-2026 18:15

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My fixed deal is starting to look like a good decision.
I wasnt sure taking one for two years was a good idea at the time.
I've never taken one for that long before, but atm, its proving to be an excellent deal.

Jaymoss 20-03-2026 14:19

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Cornwall Insight is predicting that the July to Sept Price Cap will rise by 20%.

Chris 26-03-2026 07:28

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Next week Intelligent Octopus Go is dropping its electricity rates - day rate down from 28 to 26, night rate down from 7 to 5p. Just in time for us becoming an all-EV household. :D

We charged both simultaneously last night for the first time. It looked something like this ….

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1774551457

That’s the big one on our 7kW wall box and the little one on a 3kW three-pin granny charger. The dishwasher is also on, taking advantage of cheap rate running overnight.

So we’ll be sucking the national grid dry on a nightly basis and thankfully avoiding the disastrous prices the local garage is now charging for petrol.

Paul 26-03-2026 17:42

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The image (attachment) you linked to doesnt exist.


I got my new kWh rates from Outfox today, Gas = 4.971p, Elec = 16.603p

Both are inclusive of VAT.

SnoopZ 26-03-2026 17:54

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Very good Electricity rate, I've not had notification of my new rates yet.

Chris 26-03-2026 17:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36213074)
The image (attachment) you linked to doesnt exist.

Weird … I’ve uploaded it again.

Jaymoss 27-03-2026 05:36

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Not a good start with Outfox for me too

Final Gas reading with Octopus 10011 I was billed at this figure. I gave both them and Outfox the same reading at the same time.

Got my first Outfox Bill and they some how have an opening reading of 9965 and an estimated reading for this bill of 10001 which is for energy I have already paid for. God knows where they got that figure from

SnoopZ 27-03-2026 07:58

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
I've had my final bill for Gas from Octopus, not the Electricity yet.

My new rates from April 1st.

Electricity: 21.868p
Gas. : 5.495p

Jaymoss 27-03-2026 08:01

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Turns out the regulator did not accept my readings thinking I had used to much gas and magically my bills had me paying twice for the same energy

Called them up and was told this and how she worded it triggered me as it is all making me out to be deceitful trying to over egg the old reading to get it at the cheaper rate. So basically they think I am defrauding them out of a measly £15 which is what the over charge is

Also I now have to send proof I am not lying after teller her the reading now is 40 units higher than the wrong estimate you had so how was my reading a lie when I joined. Sent both the octopus bill showing I paid and a timestamped photo of the meter .

Not impressed in the slightest

SnoopZ 27-03-2026 15:17

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36213092)
I've had my final bill for Gas from Octopus, not the Electricity yet.

My new rates from April 1st.

Electricity: 21.868p
Gas. : 5.495p

My final bill for Octopus Electricity has just come in I owe 74 pence and they will credit me to my bank account by April 13th £161.50.

Still can't see any smart meter reading on my Outfox account so I'm hoping it'll popup the next time I get a monthly bill.

Paul 27-03-2026 15:50

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36213093)
Turns out the regulator did not accept my readings thinking I had used to much gas and magically my bills had me paying twice for the same energy

Whatever reading they settle on must be used by both, so you cannot get charged for the same energy twice, all it will determine is what rate you pay (and to who).
Assuming Outfox is cheaper, then using a lower reading is surely better, more on the cheaper rate with them.

Jaymoss 27-03-2026 16:01

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36213112)
Whatever reading they settle on must be used by both, so you cannot get charged for the same energy twice, all it will determine is what rate you pay (and to who).
Assuming Outfox is cheaper, then using a lower reading is surely better, more on the cheaper rate with them.

The unit rates are pretty damn close anyway so any fraud committed would not have been on the gas anyway

Sirius 29-03-2026 09:49

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
So the Government wants motorists to fill up as normal

https://news.sky.com/story/motorists...-says-13525774

Well Rachael from accounts definitely wants you to as she is making a fortune in additional fuel tax and VAT.

SnoopZ 31-03-2026 23:12

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36213092)
I've had my final bill for Gas from Octopus, not the Electricity yet.

My new rates from April 1st.

Electricity: 21.868p
Gas. : 5.495p

New rates now showing on the app for my tariff, they have rounded it up to 2 decimal places.

GrimUpNorth 01-04-2026 06:51

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Our electricity is now 20.2p peak and 4.98p off peak AND the off peak hours have changed from 00:00 to 05:00 to 23:00 to 06:00.

Our gas is 5.33p.

We're with EDF.

SnoopZ 01-04-2026 19:14

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Octopus has now refunded what they owed, so that's me finished with Octopus atleast for a year.

SnoopZ 03-04-2026 09:54

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36212414)
They only seem to display the end of month readings, and the current day.

I dont recall exactly how long it took for the current day to appear, a week or two maybe.

I switched on March 13th and can now see daily Electricity smart meter readings in the app from March 31st, still no reading for Gas which is starting to annoy me but my bill date is April 20th so there is still time.

SnoopZ 14-04-2026 09:36

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 36213389)
I switched on March 13th and can now see daily Electricity smart meter readings in the app from March 31st, still no reading for Gas which is starting to annoy me but my bill date is April 20th so there is still time.

Had my first statement from Outfox and they still appear to be relying on my manual meter readings even though I have 2 working smart meters.

I see a daily smart meter reading in the app for Electricity(unless it's a weekend) but still nothing for Gas so I'll give them 1 more month before contacting them.

Taf 14-04-2026 10:54

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Blair has a go at Milliband.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiykZz5IYRw

Paul 14-04-2026 17:04

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Households could get free electricity for doing washing on sunny weekends.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9d44ld97dyo

Quote:

Households and businesses could get free or cheaper electricity from their energy company for running appliances during periods of excess supply, such as sunny weekends.
Dont most people do this anyway ?
We certainly do, so they can dry out in the sun after washing (granted, not always at a weekend).

downquark1 14-04-2026 17:34

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The government has to frame it as something they are giving to the public.

Taf 15-04-2026 11:01

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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36213937)
Households could get free electricity for doing washing on sunny weekends.

First the "carrot mode": cheaper or free electricity at off-peak times to push the last of the "Luddites" into having a smart meter.

Then we will see "stick" mode: peak power periods become more expensive, training us to only use power at off-peak times. And those periods will be set by the power companies.

Once again, the belief is that we all work 9 to 5 jobs, Monday to Friday, as they believed when Work From Home became a thing.

downquark1 15-04-2026 11:35

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With a renewable grid the cheap times are set by the weather not the companies.

Taf 15-04-2026 11:38

Re: UK Energy Prices
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1 (Post 36213957)
With a renewable grid the cheap times are set by the weather not the companies.

So when the sun goes in and the wind drops to a whisper, we will suddenly have no cheap or free power.

downquark1 15-04-2026 12:42

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Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36213958)
So when the sun goes in and the wind drops to a whisper, we will suddenly have no cheap or free power.

Yes that's exactly how it works. I had free power over Easter because it was windy.

---------- Post added at 13:42 ---------- Previous post was at 12:39 ----------

https://www.energydashboard.co.uk/live

Just look here, the less blue you see the more likely it is to be cheap.

Paul 15-04-2026 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taf (Post 36213958)
So when the sun goes in and the wind drops to a whisper, we will suddenly have no cheap or free power.

Correct. :D

GrimUpNorth 15-04-2026 18:00

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We get 16 hours free electricity every Sunday from 8am until midnight.

nashville 16-04-2026 11:48

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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth (Post 36213966)
We get 16 hours free electricity every Sunday from 8am until midnight.

That’s a good saving, What compan6 is that !

GrimUpNorth 16-04-2026 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nashville (Post 36214002)
That’s a good saving, What compan6 is that !

EDF, if you reduce your peak hous use Monday to Friday (4pm to 7pm) then you get max 16 hours free on Sunday. We're normally not here until after 7 so use very little late afternoon.


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