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You're missing th hole point of the Gospel. Jesus died, was burid and rose again to forgive peope who trusted in for forgiveness of past sins. It's God who judges, not us.


God forgave Paul and used him in great minestry after he had killed many, many Jewish believers In Jesus.


I don't know if Trump has. Only Gog Knows. His current actions seem good to me though.

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Easy Peasy, can I answer this?

I am going to anyway...

....The alternative must be have been really so bad to vote for, oh hold on, it was.

But Oh Hugh, showing your chips on shoulder again. Your questions are so retro and mundane. :rolleyes:

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Stop bible thumping not everyone is that gullible and a public forum is not the place for it.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E39htndsmA ;)

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A question was asked:

I gave my view.

Then comments on my viws happened.

You are equally entitled to you views based on whatever you believe

My views are based on end time Biblical prophecy. That is not Bible Thumping, and, in a democracy, not a crime.

It was Hugh's question challenging Trump's reputation led to the brief comments on judging people

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I'm worried Mr Bat, did someone arrive at your door with some Good News and you let them in???
Mohammad is a good bloke too allegedly but I don't believe in him either. Him and God have a lot to answer for given the World's conflicts. All we need is the Donald stirring it all up too at every opportunity, to deflect from his own defects/failures. Israel is the only country who thinks he's great (or say it), so that maybe explains his policy of supporting an invasion of someone else's land.

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Isn't Gog a false prophet?

Sorry .. couldn't resist :notopic:

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Has Trump been in power that long? IE Since 1995?

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Oooops! Thanks for that!

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Complete bowlacks!!! At no time were you asked for your religious POV.

i have no problem with your beliefs but keep them to yourself, I don't preach to you nor do I expect you to do so to me!

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Might have missed something here but Passingbat wasn't replying to you initially so whilst you, like me, might not be religious, I think it's a bit unfair to say he was preaching to you and I don't see why he can't say what he did in a 'public forum'. :shrug:

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It's official now anyway.

No idea on the impact of this to be honest. I think maybe Trump should have had this as a carrot in return for a concession from Israel, i.e stop building settlements, but not sure how likely that would have been.

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Whatever. Can we get back to the point of the thread? I don't recall it having anything to do with religion.

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A thread on the President of the US is bound to have something to do with religion but it's easy to ignore if you so wish. ;)

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If you say so.

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Wrong side of the bed again Pip, it must be a big drop.

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The human race... especially the so-called leaders and governments of our little blue planet .... so dumb.

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I'm afraid that this point won't go far in the debate stakes as we'll all agree with you.

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So you and Richard think a 1995 Law passed by Congress should be ignored then ?

So things we have learned about you so far, is that you're anti-democratic and that you think it's now ok to abandon legislation signed in to law ?

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I've not mentioned anything about ignoring a law. And wanting Brexit not to happen is not undemocratic it's just sensible given the impossibility of having an open border with Ireland but not following the EU's standards in Northern Ireland. But that's another debate. :)

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The solution is not impossible, so yes it is undemocratic to wanting a democratic decision stopped. You have been wanting the decision overturned, long before the Ireland issue cropped up.

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The Ireland issue has always been there.

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Yet again, Democrat Al Green introduces two Articles of Impeachment against Trump and this time forces a vote in the House of Representatives, who have tonight, overwhelmingly rejected the resolutions. Voting 364 Against and 58 For to move forward. The 58 were all Democrats.

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BREAKING: House Judiciary Committee have urgently convened a hearing with Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein to discuss the concerns regarding Special Counsel Robert Meuller’s investigations in to Russian interference in last years U.S Election.

The Chairman of the Committee raises the following concerns:

The hearing is scheduled for next Wednesday at 10AM D.C time. Hearing is public.

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Which was obvious at the time. Bills get introduced to the House every day many of which never get to the floor. People get too bothered about specific bills.

Can't see that doing much. A guy was fired by Meuller for spending the texts as a result of Meuller's own due diligence. Sounds like he is behaving how someone leading an investigation should.

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Yes but this is different. Articles have been created before, this is the first time a vote has been forced on the House floor.

Not just a few texts, 10,000 texts are being examined.

There is significant credibility issues, that’s the reason for the hearing being convened. Mueller kept the information from the Congressional Investigation Committee about the FBI agent who he fired, for months.

As it stands, this FBI investigator, Peter Strzok, who was heavily and politically biased towards Hillary Clinton. Changed the wording of the final language used by former Director James Comey, in her investigation from ‘grossly negligent’ to ‘extremely careless’ and that’s significant because the initial categorisation, carries criminal ramifications.

He also Interviewed Flynn, before he was fired from the Russia probe.

So yes, he was fired, but not before he played key roles in various investigations and that information withheld from Congressional Investigators, until now.

In other news, Democratic Senator, Al Franken is due to announce today, he is resigning, after more revelations of his sexual misconduct towards women.

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Even so though it was a bill destined to fail. I am surprised it got as far as a vote.

It's bad for the agent in question and maybe the Clinton probe, I've not looked into the actual detail, but from I've seen the Meuller investigation will largely be ok. Unless it gives Trump the pretense to fire him.

Good.

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I don’t think you understand?

Democrat, Al Green forced the vote to the floor on his own, despite many in his own party recommending him not to.

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I understand? As I said it was never going to get anywhere? :confused:

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You was saying it should not have got as far as a vote, but the House had no choice, Al Green was forcing the vote.

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I said I was surprised it got as far as a vote. They usually don't.

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https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...ts-2017-293309

Doug Jones, The Democrat, won in Alabama. Big surprise even with the allegations against Moore. It seems that in addition to that a large black turnout won it for Jones as Moore's base support still turned out for him.

Re: U.S President: Donald Trump
 

So, the last two people you endorsed in Alabama were both defeated...

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Donald has a answer for everything it seems.:rolleyes:

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Still, Republicans are still winning with 5 out of 7 races won over the Democrats, who have spent fortunes on these races.

.8% of a win over someone with accusations of a sexual conduct towards a miner, is piss poor, should be a landslide for any opponent.

The Writeins won it. (People who voted earlier on more like when the allegations were coming to light).

I read One accuser admitting to forging a year book.

Moore either way was bad choice, had ancient and backwards policies, he should have made way for a more viable candidate.

I now expect serial groper while women sleep, Democrat, Al Frankenstein, will now resign, it was suspected he was hanging on to see if Moore won a Senate seat.

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But these are largely Republican districts (let's leave aside Alabama because special circumstances). If these results were to be projected nationally, i.e the swing was consistent, the Democrats would win congress easily.

It is but says more about how partisan politics is. This is very safe Republican seat, no democrat has held any national office in the state for 23 years I believe.

He resigned last week didn't he?

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Not necessarily, Democrats have 25 Seats to defend Mid terms, Republicans have 10, 2 of these look shakey.


No, he said he would resign within weeks. Which many suspect he may be waiting for the Moore/Jones race result to conclude.

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In my view he should have resigned. You are innocent until proven guilty. But he should have known that with unresolved accusation hanging over him, it would impact the vote. As a polititian, he should have put his party first and resigned, got the acusations fully investigated, and if cleared, stand again later.

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Yes in the coming mid-terms it's not an easy ground for them but my point is that the Democrats have largely done well in these votes. It just so happens they're largely in red states rather than contested ones.

Well let's see, it will be hard for him to back out given he has publically announced his intentions at the request of his own party.

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Well, considering for all this century the Republicans have won this seat with a 30% majority, most people would consider a 31% swing in a very safe Republican state not too shabby...

Re the "forgery", Fox News withdrew that statement...

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36...rgery-headline Franken’s replacement has been chosen.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...-in-2018?amp=1

Yeah but not the right answer!!!!

He is gonna put us all in danger here in the US and maybe other countries also!!!

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You have been saying that for the last 12 months, since his election, it's getting old, we are still here, seriously.

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Yep strike up another achievement for the donald, he's not got us killed yet, good work donald great job

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There are going to be wars in the future whoever is President. Glad we have got Trump who is building up weapons

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The USA already spends more on defence than China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, India, France, United Kingdom, Japan, and Germany combined.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmc.../#4199a43b43f3

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...9&d=1513238183

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Good. Keep going Mr Trump.

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Still following the liberal media like a lost sheep I see. :rolleyes:

Though had it been the Crooked witch as President, given her posturing with Russia (They also we’re preparing for war in the event of her winning) we might not be here. She was blatantly threatening to impose a complete no fly zone over Syria, which would have pissed off Russia, we’d probably be dragged in to a nuclear conflict. Even Independent candidates, who were no fan of Trump, said they thought Hillary was a war monger.

Anyway, all the stuff coming out about Fusion GPS, and how the Democrats and Crooked Hillary paid for the fake Russian Dossier during last years election, embroiled the FBI at the time under the Obama Administration, created this fictional Dossier, to spy on Americans, mainly the people in Trumps inner circle. This is far worse than Watergate!

And an FBI supervisor, sending text messages to his lover, regarding his complete disdain for Trump and how he cannot allow him to get elected, thought he was some super James Bond agent, on a mission to get Crooked Hillary elected, changed the wording to remove any criminal intent during her investigation that he was in charge of, of course was not that simple and he failed to stop Americans electing Trump. This is the real scandal, and the DOJ needs to get its act together and start issuing indictments to the real collusion suspects going on here, to stop Trump getting elected.

At least 30 Senators who have congressional oversight of the Department of Justice, want a Second Special Counsel, to Investigate the investigators in the Meuller team, who of about 9 out of 16, have substantially contributed to the Clinton campaign and or Clinton Foundation.

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And that is a good thing then?.

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Well seeing how Russia is still doing same, yes.

I don’t know how many more times I have to say it, stop following one sided rubbish in the media. Trump said on the campaign trail, He does not like Nuclear weapons and would prefer a nuclear free world, but when you got the likes of Russia, North Korea, building their weapons systems up. U.S must sustain their weapons too.

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l don't follow or support any particular side of the media as l make my own mind up out of my own volition and personally there are already more then enough weapons to blow up the world quite a few times over so IMO its a complete waste of money that should be spent on far more important things in America.

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Well the U.S has all it has to defend the rest of us, otherwise the UK would be more of a USSR, without the Defense of the States.

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Yes because, we are never going to live in a world created by humanistic philosophy. there will be wars until the next millennium. i.e. until Armageddon

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Roy Moore still not conceding in 'the battle for our republican and religion'.....

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That maybe because there is chatter of Voter fraud, specifically that an additional 200,000 Democrat voters may have crossed State lines to illegally vote and in some instances vote more than once, in this special Alabama elections. As I say it is just chatter, but I would not put it past Democrats to play dirty here, they are good at doing such a thing, given their actions with the Fusion GPS Dossier.

It does not help their case when Democrat voters admit to doing such a thing on Live TV News, just watch the end, a black voter admits to voting a couple of times and the news interviewer says that probably illegal, it so is!:

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What a shameful swiz. Democracy subverted again :mad:

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I can put your mind to rest - the chatter that 200,000 extra voters crossed State boundaries to illegally vote in the Alabama election is just that - chatter, and ill-informed chatter at that.

How do you keep 200,000 people from talking about doing this? How do you get them there to vote - by bus? It would take about 4,000 buses/coaches to get them there, at around 50 people per bus (and how do you stop the 4,000 bus drivers, and the companies that hire the buses, talking about it?).

Also, wouldn't they have had to go to polling stations where Moore voters wouldn't have noticed a bunch of buses with strangers in them turning up?

Alabama has strict ID laws for voting, so they would have had to show valid Alabama ID (such as Alabama Photo Voter ID, Alabama driver's licence, US passport, student or employee ID at a college or university in Alabama, or military ID), and, most importantly, be already registered to vote.

So in summary, for this chatter to be true, you would need 200,000 out of state voters, 4,000 buses, all recruited and hired secretly, no witnesses, no leaks, with false Alabama ID, with the false Alabama ID already registered on the Alabama Electoral system, and them voting in dozens of stations without being noticed.

Wouldn't it have been easier to hack the voting machines?

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Got that right, typical of the Crooked and cheating lefties, also known as Democrats. Cheated one of their own last year, Bernie sanders to prop up Crooked Hillary as a candidate and then tried to cheat further with the funding of the Fake Fusion GPS Dossier and with the help of a couple of bent Agents in the FBI/DOJ to boot. So glad it all fell apart for them and we are finding out now about all the serious political bias and crookedness within the various departments during the Obama Administration. :td:

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So you missed the guy jumping around, boasting of coming from other parts of the country to illegally vote, on that live news broadcast ?

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How does one person, who could have been a college kid come home to "vote and canvas" (as he said on the interview) equate to 200,000 - how do you explain the ID and registration required to vote for the 200,000?

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Did you not hear what he said?

He said he and his fellowship, could that be 10, 20, 200, or 2,000 or even 20,000 come across State lines to vote.

Looking more and more like a sham, no wonder Moore will not concede, he's had unproven allegations made against him and now been robbed in an illegitimate race, due to Democrat voters in other parts of the Country, cheating (again) and voting illegally. :rolleyes:

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Or he came to canvas and other people voted? He just phrased it badly in the interview. Seems the most likely considering as Hugh said it would be hard for people to vote without legal ID (and even then you are checked against a register so they would need to know names of people on the role who aren't going to vote!).

Just to be clear though you're saying Moore actually won but lost because of 200,000 illegal votes based on the wording on one person talking to a camera?

I really don't see the point in these discussions anymore.

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"He came to vote from other parts of the Country to pitch in and vote", how can that be worded badly to mean something completely different ?

And no I am not saying Moore won, I am saying the the whole thing was a sham if illegal votes were able to be cast, surely you do not condone this kind of election cheating ?

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I do not condone cheating, but I am still trying to understand how 200,000 fake voters got on to the Alabama register, how 200,000 sets of false ID came to be, and how nobody noticed that 1 in 7 of the voters were fake?

btw, he used the words "and canvas" after vote - it’s quite common in the US for college students who are studying in other States to go back to their home state to vote, canvas, and "pitch in".

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I think there is two things with that video:

1) His phasing is vague enough to suggest he came down to canvas and the group he is talking about consisted of people who legally voted too. It's unlikely he is admitting to a crime on television after all.

2) Even if he did one person is not evidence of 200,000 illegal votes. If that makes it a sham then Trump's election itself was a sham: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0d5b458eacb54

In reality one or two incidents of voter fraud do not amount to systematic voter fraud.

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There is no realistic way of proving it from this side of the pond that it was not more widespread.

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The FBI Agent, Peter Strzok, who was removed from the Meuller investigation team, sent the following text message in August last year, to his mistress, Lisa Page:

The Andy he is referencing there is Deputy Director to the FBI, Andrew Mccabe.

Yesterday, House Oversight Committee interviewed Deputy AG, Rod Rosenstein, he was grilled on the above text message sent from the FBI Agent, who sent the above message:

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Well no but the people in Alabama causing this ‘chatter’ can. Someone should be able to prove it if 200,000 voted illegally, it would be by far the largest incidence of voter fraud in either the US or U.K.

As Hugh said there are either 200,000 people whose votes were stolen or 200,000 people fraudulently added to the electoral lists over the last few months. Someone has produced that many fake IDs too.

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Seems to be a pattern from those on the nutty right to call fraud, fake, every time there is an election result they don't like.

It happened in the UK General election, when students had the cheek to actually vote and the Tories didn't like it !

At the US election Trump was calling fraud and wasn't going to accept the result if he lost, however when he won, suddenly the election is legitimate ! 200k fraudulent voters in Alabama is laughable. Trump's days are numbered and he'll soon be lame duck President. His support amongst moderate Republicans is collapsing.

Doubtless there is some isolated cases of fraud but it happens on all sides. Indeed the Conservative MP for South Thanet is due a day in court soon, on election fiddling charges.

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There is evidence that cheating took place and the only counter-evidence so far is from contributors here saying "there can't have been any cheating". Meh.

It's hard work for President Trump and his administration but he is showing himself to be a strong leader managing an improving economy. We should all continue to support the leader of the free World.

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Have you been partaking of too much of the Xmas spirit tonight old chap ? :D

His best mate Putin isn't exactly a fan of the free World...

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I see you're now a 'Remoaning Traitor!' instead of a 'Proud Remoaner'. I'm glad about that, the latter sounded a bit...ahem...vulgar :p:

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Typical of you to get things wrong as usual. The issue with students was them voting twice, which is illegal or did you conveniently forget that ?

Trumps days are not numbered. And his support is NOT collapsing. More misguided and one sided rubbish, again, as usual. :rolleyes:

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Ah well, I've learnt from the master of one sidedness Mick :)

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Oh yes, who is he ? ;)

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Hi Mick I am happy to bet you £100 that trump doesn't get a 2nd term and will happily give the money to charity if I'm wrong. You fancy a bet the other way?

PM me for details if you are up for it

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i hope you have a spare £100 lol :)

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I do but don't reckon i will lose :-)

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Love to bet with you Mr Banana but I don't trust the Democrats to play a straight race, they do not know how to. Politics is too dirty in America, for me to feel secured about placing any bet.

Latest on this Peter Strzok scandal: The chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, sent a letter to the FBI on Thursday that shows the multiple edits to Comey’s highly scrutinized exoneration statement for Hillary Clinton, during last years FBI Criminal Investigation of her unsecured private email server in which she sent and received classified material, in which she was conveniently cleared of all wrong doing.

In an early draft, Then FBI Director, Comey said it was “reasonably likely” that “hostile actors” gained access to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private email account. That was changed later to say the scenario was merely “possible.”

Another edit showed language was changed to describe the actions of Clinton and her colleagues as “extremely careless” as opposed to “grossly negligent.” This is a key legal difference because the change is a massive watering down of the FBI's initial findings.

In the initial drafted FBI report, it clearly identified that Hillary Clinton broke the law and such a charge would have prevented her candidacy for President in the U.S Election in 2016.

Now, there is nothing wrong with making edits here and there in a draft, but changing categorizations, which either means exoneration or indictments, is serious, given that the key person responsible for those edits, was aggressively Anti-Trump and had a very, 'I'm with her' bias, when it came to supporting Hillary Clinton, that key person was Peter Strzok, who was the same FBI agent who sent the damning, 'Insurance Policy' if Trump was elected' text message.

Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, testified on Wednesday and hinted that it is possible to re-open the Clinton FBI email investigation, if it is deemed appropriate to do so but is waiting on a full report being conducted by the Inspector General, before deciding on this decision further. This is the same IG who discovered the text messages by Peter Strzok, to his mistress, Lisa Page.

Looks like the real collusion going on here, is the FBI aligning itself with the Democrats and Clinton campaign. :rolleyes:

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Well there are certainly enough candidates on this forum for a game of musical chairs.;)

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Even Fox news viewers are deserting him...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8111561.html

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It is illegal but there is no evidence it happened in significant numbers at all. I believe the entire evidence for this was a tweet from one person no?

Trump's approval numbers have been dropping for a while: http://dyn.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-6179.html

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Best President for years. The West needed a rousing awakening. As usual, the snowflakes are cacking themselves.

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But sadly dogged by traitors [sounds familiar] who constantly frustrate the will of the people because they wanted the crazy lady in office .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT36I2Ncz4w

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Spot on.


The Trump hate comes from rich globalists who hate Trump because of his belief in National Sovereignty. They finance anti Trump news outlets such as CNN and indirectly, finance anti Trump marches. That is the reason that such news outlets get to Attend such events as Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove.

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Remembers the 90% chance Hillary had to become President on Election night. Sorry Damien, don’t trust these polls, at all.

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That wasn't a poll. It was a calculation the NY Times 'Upshot' statistical model came up. Incidentally 90% means there is still 1 in 10 chance something will happen. 1 in 10 is nowhere near an impossible possibility.

But anyway as I said that wasn't a poll. The actual popular vote polling had:

Clinton: 46.8
Trump: 43.6

A Clinton lead of 3.2%.

The actual results were:

Clinton: 48.2
Trump: 46.1

A Clinton lead of 2.1%.

So the popular vote average of polls was only 1% out....

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Still, I do not trust them. To say Trumps base has shrunk is baseless and inaccurate. He is fulfilling his campaign promises. A reluctant Trump voter, said last year he could not vote for the devil, (Hillary), so reluctantly went for Trump, now he says, I stand shoulder to shoulder with Trump.

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It's not baseless though, Presidential approval numbers have been used for 50+ years, and whilst polling can be inaccurate it's the best metric we have until the next election. Certainly better than assumption or anecdote.

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Poll numbers don’t mean nothing, I just have no faith in them at all. History proves they are totally unreliable. Republican President Ronald Reagan, was unpopular in his first year, he won his second term in a landslide.

If Trump gets his legislative agenda out, instead of being fought at every turn by the corrupted & obstructionist Democrats and the one sided liberal media, CNN, NYT & WP, he will do just fine.

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Certainly people can go from bad poll ratings to good ones. If Trump will is up for debate, I personally don't think he will. I also don't like the Democrats are anymore corrupt than Trump for that matter.

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Bah. Exit polls taste of hat; just ask Paddy Pantsdown.

Go Donald! There's a job to do; stay on course.

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I’m not making any predictions yet, too early plus too much going on in background to get him ousted.

Trump was never meant to win and given these latest text revelations, it suggests, there is/was a plan, especially with this insurance policy that a FBI agent talks about, in a text message to his mistress, if he does get elected.

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:tu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT36I2Ncz4w

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:rofl:

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:cleader:Donald!:cleader:Donald!:cleader:Donald!:cleader:

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Here's at least one millionaire coming clean about the Republican Tax Reform Bill.

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...93599460204544

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Yet this is the current latest proposed changes to the bill... So I do not see the above being very accurate.

• First, for single Individuals:
  
• 10%: $0 to $9,525 of taxable income for an individual
• 12%: $9,526 to $38,700 individual
• 22%: $38,701 to $82,500 individual
• 24%: $82,501 to $157,500 individual
• 32%: $157,501 to $200,000 individual
• 35%: $200,001 to $500,000 individual
• 37%: over $500,000 individual
  
  And second, for joint filers:
  
• 10%: $0 to $19,050 for married joint filers
• 12%: $19,051 to $77,400 joint
• 22%: $77,401 to $165,000 joint
• 24%: $165,001 to $315,000 joint
• 32%: $315,001 to $400,000 joint
• 35%: $400,001 to $600,000 joint
• 37%: Over $600,000 joint

Under the final version of Republican plan, there would still be seven federal income tax brackets. The brackets proposed are 10%, 12%, 22%, 24%, 32%, 35%, and 37%.

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• First, for single Individuals:
  
• 10%: $0 to $9,525 of taxable income for an individual (Currently 10% up to $9,325)
• 12%: $9,526 to $38,700 individual (Currently 15% $9,326 to $37,950)
• 22%: $38,701 to $82,500 individual (Currently 25% $37,951 to $91,900)
• 24%: $82,501 to $157,500 individual (Currently 28% $91,901 to $191,650)
• 32%: $157,501 to $200,000 individual (Currently 33% $191,651 to $416,700)
• 35%: $200,001 to $500,000 individual (Currently 35% $416,701 to $418,400)
• 37%: over $500,000 individual (Currently 39.6% $418,401 or more)

So as you can see I have put in the brackets what the current tax brackets are.

If low earner was on $9,500 a year on the current system, they would be in the 15% Income tax bracket. On the new plan, they would not, they would be in the 10% bracket and save $475 in income tax a year.

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From the video pip linked to, it's not about the tax bands but about the tax rate applied to dividends. So, if you own the company, it's better to take out money from it in dividends rather than to pay yourself a salary. This is how high earners benefit from the tax changes.

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But that is still misleading to say the GOP tax bill does not benefit the lower paid worker, who doesn’t have dividends, when it does.

The US rightly vetoes UN Counsel to rescind declaration of recognition of Jerusalem Capital of Israel, telling no country will tell the U.S where it can place is Embassy.

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If Trump can get new supporters to replace his blue collar base then he may be ok for another term but at the moment I can't see him lasting another term.

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BREAKING: U.S House of Representatives has just passed President Donald Trump's & Republican Tax Reform bill...

The bill passed on a 227-203 vote.

Now it's on to the Senate.

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Where it's encountered problems!
https://www.ft.com/content/875db9ec-...f-02569221b144