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Aguero9320 22-09-2017 22:16

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35917474)
The vast majority won't bother with Sky, as they will not only have to pay for the satellite slot, but must join Sky's encryption system due to rights issues with some of the programmes they rebroadcast. There are no local channels on Freesat for this very reason.

It must be a massive outlay for just a few thousand viewers. London Live is the only local channel I know of that uses Sky, & with a potential audience in millions rather that thousands this is the only one ever likely too (Excluding possibly STV2).

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917487)
Possible sign that the rumour that GOLD is to go HD could be true.

Apparently, UKTV are currently testing an (encrypted) channel on satellite using Eden, but with EPG listings for GOLD HD!

Hopefully they will make GOLD SD FTA and put it on Freeview (which might explain the confusion over an advert that appeared to suggest that it was advertising GOLD as being on Freeview) and keep the HD variant behind a paywall.

If true, I wonder if we will get GOLD HD on VM? We only got the full selection of UKTV channels just before VM sold off their stake in them.

Anyone know when the carriage deal is up for renewal?

Hope so, Rich. Gold and Drama have started sharing certain programmes, so that also could be a sign.

jj20x 22-09-2017 23:54

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917526)
Does anyone actually watch Local TV what a complete waste of time and money.

Not many and, let's face it, there's very little there to attract an audience with such a low budget.

Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35917529)
Been very disappointed with local TV in my area for the very reason they show little to no actual local TV programs. Made In Tyne & Wear for example (which incidentally is on Sky ) shows America's Got Talent! Hardly made in Tyne & Wear is it!

No, it's TruTV.

OLD BOY 23-09-2017 01:03

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The local TV project has been a complete waste of time, I'm afraid.
I do believe this could have succeeded, but unfortunately those involved don't have the first clue about how this could work!

denphone 23-09-2017 06:14

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917526)
Does anyone actually watch Local TV what a complete waste of time and money.

l agree with everything you have said here MM.:tu:

telegramsam 23-09-2017 08:31

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35917534)
The local TV project has been a complete waste of time, I'm afraid.
I do believe this could have succeeded, but unfortunately those involved don't have the first clue about how this could work!

Agree entirely with you old boy. I had high hopes of seeing locally made programs on and about Teesside on Made In Teesside but it just hasn't happened so far. When I emailed them a few months back they said to keep watching as they would improve and more local content would be coming but as I say a big disappointment still.

Richc1977 23-09-2017 10:04

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917487)

If true, I wonder if we will get GOLD HD on VM? We only got the full selection of UKTV channels just before VM sold off their stake in them.

Anyone know when the carriage deal is up for renewal?

Assuming the deal (which is more or less certain) for Discovery purchasing Scripps Networks goes through then I'd say a very good chance as it will mean Mr Malone will in effect control 50% of UKTV.

RichardCoulter 23-09-2017 14:26

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Good point.

It's odd to think that VM sold off VM Ireland and their 50% UKTV stake, only for Malone to buy them back.

theone2k10 23-09-2017 16:36

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917590)
Good point.

It's odd to think that VM sold off VM Ireland and their 50% UKTV stake, only for Malone to buy them back.

I have my own theory but staying quiet on it all i say is one word is publicity and the second starts with s ends with t.

OLD BOY 23-09-2017 19:43

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917590)
Good point.

It's odd to think that VM sold off VM Ireland and their 50% UKTV stake, only for Malone to buy them back.

I think there is a common phrase response for this. What goes around comes around! ��

RichardCoulter 24-09-2017 05:31

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35917531)
Hope so, Rich. Gold and Drama have started sharing certain programmes, so that also could be a sign.

I think I've worked out what's going on.

The Sky EPG shows Eden HD as closing down at 6am on Monday (VM carries on as usual). I expect the test channel currently showing Eden HD with GOLD on its EPG listing to become GOLD HD.

Sky Living Ireland HD recently closed down (Irish satellite viewers now receive the same feed as the UK as the EPG is now mapped to the English version).

I bet that Sky are reviewing the value that they get from their own HD channels and those that they subsidise resulting, thus far, in:

- Sky Living Ireland HD closing.

- Eden HD closing, with the former capacity being used to create GOLD HD.

I think that Eden SD and GOLD SD will eventually become FTA, with GOLD at least going onto Freeview and both going onto Freesat.

What about VM as a result of these changes?

Well, as it's been reported that the Irish version of Sky Living HD continues on VM Ireland, maybe we will keep Eden HD and hopefully we will get GOLD HD too. VM HD channels are line fed, so the capacity is borne by VM, so I guess it's possible that we may end up with some HD channels that Sky don't have (for a change)!

I never envisaged that HD channels would be closing down in 2017!!

Inactive Digital 24-09-2017 08:37

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That's a shame as Eden is one of the channels that benefits most from being available in HD. Perhaps (here''s hoping) it's just moving transponder on Sky and HD will remain available on both platforms.

Mr K 24-09-2017 08:48

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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35917679)
That's a shame as Eden is one of the channels that benefit's most from being available in HD. Perhaps (here''s hoping) it's just moving transponder on Sky and HD will remain available on both platforms.

That's appalling getting rid of Eden HD which is one of the few channels which really benefits from HD for wildlife programmes etc. Just so we can watch 1970s sitcoms on Gold HD that were never made in HD in the first place.... ( I do like my 70s sitcoms btw, but HD won't make them funnier...)

OLD BOY 24-09-2017 10:21

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Originally Posted by Inactive Digital (Post 35917679)
That's a shame as Eden is one of the channels that benefits most from being available in HD. Perhaps (here''s hoping) it's just moving transponder on Sky and HD will remain available on both platforms.

It certainly seems a strange move, unless Sky are getting Eden UHD!

Ddonald2016 24-09-2017 14:46

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Who is part of the beta trial tommorrow for the new sky cinema app

Great news!
We're planning to begin the Customer Trial of the new Sky Cinema app for iPhone and iPad users from Monday 25th September and will be sending you some important information on how to get started on that day.

We thought we'd give you a little advance notice but we'll send you full details as soon as the app is ready for you to download.
If you have an Android device that you plan to use in the Trial we'll be sending info for that towards the end of next week

RichardCoulter 24-09-2017 19:32

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I think the problem with Eden is it's relatively low viewing figures.

There has been speculation for some time that Eden & Good Food would be the next (last?) UKTV channels to go FTA. Perhaps it's viewing figures are too low for either Sky or UKTV to maintain an HD variant, but the SD variant might be cost effective using a FTA business model with the increased advertising reach??

There is no benefit to broadcasters in providing HD channels as they cost more to broadcast without any extra advertising income (unless companies like VM & Sky subsidise them).

As Sky & VM no longer appear to be creating/subsidising HD channels for the sake of it, I think that the less popular channels will only become HD due to 'keeping up with the neighbours' (eg the PSB channels) or when SD kit becomes obsolete.

If Sky have decided that certain HD channels aren't driving up or maintaining subscriptions, then it looks like funding is being withdrawn as part of their cost cutting measures because of the cost of the football rights and stagnation of their subscriber base.

Any old GOLD programming recorded on film will benefit from HD, but not stuff recorded on video. Less old material may well have been recorded in HD anyway.

cheekyangus 24-09-2017 19:54

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The Eden Twitter account has responded to a person who has asked about what's going on with Eden HD on Sky and they basically said they'll look into it. But it could just be the person dealing with the social media accounts hasn't been told.

RichardCoulter 24-09-2017 20:12

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Thanks for that, it'll be interesting to obtain something concrete.

Twenty hours ago, on the Sky forum, someone asked why it's closing down, but their post has thus far been ignored.

On 4/10/17 it will be exactly five years since Eden HD was created, so I imagine that Sky have declined to renew the contract.

Raider999 24-09-2017 20:34

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IT will be sorely missed:rolleyes:

I have never watched any program on Eden - too be fair I didn't know it existed, just another channel I have to pay for that I don't want.

muppetman11 24-09-2017 20:40

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Originally Posted by Raider999 (Post 35917787)
IT will be sorely missed:rolleyes:

I have never watched any program on Eden - too be fair I didn't know it existed, just another channel I have to pay for that I don't want.

Agreed we never watch it either.

Red_dog77 24-09-2017 20:47

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Why the hell is Freesports still not on Virgin? Surely it shouldn't take all this time to sort out a deal for a FTA channel.

theone2k10 24-09-2017 21:19

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917781)
Thanks for that, it'll be interesting to obtain something concrete.

Twenty hours ago, on the Sky forum, someone asked why it's closing down, but their post has thus far been ignored.

On 4/10/17 it will be exactly five years since Eden HD was created, so I imagine that Sky have declined to renew the contract.

Eden is going fta and on freeview from info i've gathered of sources.

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Originally Posted by Red_dog77 (Post 35917797)
Why the hell is Freesports still not on Virgin? Surely it shouldn't take all this time to sort out a deal for a FTA channel.

Talks are happening.

Aguero9320 24-09-2017 21:21

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I can't find anything related to Eden HD's closure. On the other hand, Eden, Gold and Good Food would all be welcome additions to the growing lineups of Freeview and Freesat.

Please could someone post some links to the forum for me. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917791)
Agreed we never watch it either.

I do. For the occasional rerun of Blue Planet.

denphone 25-09-2017 05:42

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917791)
Agreed we never watch it either.

A man of your enlightenment and knowledge l thought would have watched it MM.

OLD BOY 25-09-2017 09:35

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Eden is a good channel for programmes on nature and one that I would not like to see go. However, I've not seen anything to date to suggest that it will disappear from our screens other than the absence of programming listed in Sky's EPG.

The Virgin EPG suggests that all is well - full programme information there.

muppetman11 25-09-2017 10:32

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35917849)
A man of your enlightenment and knowledge l thought would have watched it MM.

Repeats of repeats Den.

Gavin-D 25-09-2017 10:34

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Eden HD has been removed from the Sky HD EPG and replaced by Eden on 532

denphone 25-09-2017 11:16

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917870)
Repeats of repeats Den.

No different then the premium channels MM.

muppetman11 25-09-2017 11:41

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Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35917879)
No different then the premium channels MM.

Genuine question what first run content does Eden have I thought it was all shows that had aired on the BBC.

denphone 25-09-2017 11:52

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917883)
Genuine question what first run content does Eden have I thought it was all shows that had aired on the BBC.

The programming used on the channel is mostly from the BBC archives,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_(TV_channel)

Bananaman_007 25-09-2017 12:21

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I am not surprised at this move. I watched the meet the controllers videos on YouTube from the Edinburgh festival and every time Eden was mentioned in the UKTV one it was dismissed. They even said that original commissions intended for Eden were now going to be shown on W instead. This made me think Edens days maybe numbered.

theone2k10 25-09-2017 12:21

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35917864)
Eden is a good channel for programmes on nature and one that I would not like to see go. However, I've not seen anything to date to suggest that it will disappear from our screens other than the absence of programming listed in Sky's EPG.

The Virgin EPG suggests that all is well - full programme information there.

It's not going i've already stated what is happening with Eden.

But hey what do i know.

jj20x 25-09-2017 13:22

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917663)
I never envisaged that HD channels would be closing down in 2017!!

It seems strange that Natural History content was used to showcase HD in the early days and that we have now reached the stage where the HD version of a Natural History channel has been removed.

There's a lot of speculation around at the moment and ultimately, we'll see how any reorganisation of the channel structure at UKTV affects us as VM TV users.

Of course, the genre is niche and doesn't attract a large audience. It's possible that Sky doesn't want to pay a share of subscription revenue to a competitor and would prefer to attract Eden viewers to the Nat Geo Wild channel, which is within the News Corporation/Fox family. Compare this with the recent situation where Sky reduced support for the Discovery group of channels.

OLD BOY 25-09-2017 13:53

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Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35917887)
It's not going i've already stated what is happening with Eden.

But hey what do i know.

Sorry - I appear to have missed that post!

nodrogd 25-09-2017 15:20

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Just seen a response to the post on the Sky forum about Eden HD closing. Sky are claiming its not them that's responsible for it, & is telling customers to contact UKTV

jj20x 25-09-2017 15:43

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35917908)
Just seen a response to the post on the Sky forum about Eden HD closing. Sky are claiming its not them that's responsible for it, & is telling customers to contact UKTV

It's an open platform, any channel can be on there as long as it pays the EPG fee. Ultimately it is a decision for UKTV, that's not to say that Sky hasn't forced their hand by reducing the share of subscription revenue paid to the channel. Either way, I wouldn't expect Sky to take responsibility for the removal.

muppetman11 25-09-2017 15:52

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This will happen more and more in my opinion , Discovery was the start of it however customers weren't happy at that and Sky agreed a deal.

Any of the channels receiving subscription money from Sky will be reviewed when contracts expire , I'm sure if they feel a certain channel isn't performing well with viewers they'll look to renegotiate or drop the channel.

Media Boy UK 25-09-2017 15:53

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35917910)
It's an open platform, any channel can be on there as long as it pays the EPG fee. Ultimately it is a decision for UKTV, that's not to say that Sky hasn't forced their hand by reducing the share of subscription revenue paid to the channel. Either way, I wouldn't expect Sky to take responsibility for the removal.

We have been saying within Media Boy HQ for years now that the Eden brand is dead in the water.

we feel the following may happen.

-Eden HD > Home HD (Rumours to be GOLD HD)
-Eden > Drama +1
-Eden > Really +1

Virgin Media did sign deal with UKTV in June 2016.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...es-virgin.html

Eden HD did launch on September 27th 2011 on Virgin Media UK:

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=eden+hd

Ddonald2016 25-09-2017 16:19

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Can anybody help where is the UKTV app

“We’re delighted to be building on our leadership by giving our customers more UKTV shows than are available on any other platform. With the arrival of the UKTV Play app and the doubling of catch-up content our customers can access more of the entertainment they love in the way they want.”

RichardCoulter 25-09-2017 16:42

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35917891)
It seems strange that Natural History content was used to showcase HD in the early days and that we have now reached the stage where the HD version of a Natural History channel has been removed.

There's a lot of speculation around at the moment and ultimately, we'll see how any reorganisation of the channel structure at UKTV affects us as VM TV users.

Of course, the genre is niche and doesn't attract a large audience. It's possible that Sky doesn't want to pay a share of subscription revenue to a competitor and would prefer to attract Eden viewers to the Nat Geo Wild channel, which is within the News Corporation/Fox family. Compare this with the recent situation where Sky reduced support for the Discovery group of channels.

A very good point that I hadn't considered. I think that the days of Sky willy waving about the number of channels that they have (particularly in HD) could well be over in favour of boosting the number of viewers for the channels that they own or have a financial interest in.

I wonder if the fact that Malone now has a 50% stake in UKTV is of any significance. He may have orchestrated this to reduce competition to his Discovery channel's??

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35917910)
It's an open platform, any channel can be on there as long as it pays the EPG fee. Ultimately it is a decision for UKTV, that's not to say that Sky hasn't forced their hand by reducing the share of subscription revenue paid to the channel. Either way, I wouldn't expect Sky to take responsibility for the removal.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917913)
This will happen more and more in my opinion , Discovery was the start of it however customers weren't happy at that and Sky agreed a deal.

Any of the channels receiving subscription money from Sky will be reviewed when contracts expire , I'm sure if they feel a certain channel isn't performing well with viewers they'll look to renegotiate or drop the channel.

Yup, that seems to be the way that it's going. The cost of the football rights, the extra competition that now exists and the apparent plateauing of their subscriber base is clearly affecting Sky.

Eden HD is still broadcasting at present off the Sky EPG.

The new label that is expected to become GOLD HD isn't currently broadcasting anything, but the EPG is now showing a full 7 day EPG for GOLD.

Eden HD continues to be available on VM. Is this now a VM exclusive, or do any other platforms carry it?

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Originally Posted by Phil-ntl (Post 35917420)
Still on VM and Freeview. Does actually seem quite popular (in Nottingham, at least) Not quite sure where this fits in with "Coming Soon to Virgin TV" though?

Phil

I take your point, but it's a fact that what happens on other platforms (particularly Sky) often has implications for VM and it's customers.

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Originally Posted by nodrogd (Post 35917447)
There is an American cable channel with this name, but it has nothing to do with bikes.

https://www.ridetv.com/

Good find; this looks to be about horse riding as opposed to cycling.

It had crossed my mind that it could have been a more imaginatively titled porn channel :D

theone2k10 25-09-2017 16:44

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Originally Posted by muppetman11 (Post 35917913)
This will happen more and more in my opinion , Discovery was the start of it however customers weren't happy at that and Sky agreed a deal.

Any of the channels receiving subscription money from Sky will be reviewed when contracts expire , I'm sure if they feel a certain channel isn't performing well with viewers they'll look to renegotiate or drop the channel.

Absolutely agree with this,
on the otherhand although not ideal until pic quality improves TV Player are a good alternative they are getting more channels too their latest beine Ginx esports tv strangely tv player is the only platform offering ginxtv on demand content too. Sky nor VM don't have ginxtv on demand.

nodrogd 25-09-2017 17:17

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35917914)

Eden HD did launch on September 27th 2011 on Virgin Media UK:

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/search?q=eden+hd

It also launched last year on BT TV, so its not a Virgin Media exclusive even though its bee removed from Sky..

OLD BOY 25-09-2017 17:33

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35917920)
Can anybody help where is the UKTV app

“We’re delighted to be building on our leadership by giving our customers more UKTV shows than are available on any other platform. With the arrival of the UKTV Play app and the doubling of catch-up content our customers can access more of the entertainment they love in the way they want.”

If I remember correctly, we don't have the UKTV app as such, but we have all the channels from there listed separately (W, Dave, etc) under both Catch Up and On Demand.

jj20x 25-09-2017 18:28

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35917914)
We have been saying within Media Boy HQ for years now that the Eden brand is dead in the water.

That can be said of pretty much any niche channel, they aren't going to attract a large number of viewers. Pay tv is supposed to increase choice by making such content available, even when it doesn't have a large audience. Maybe the problem is too many channels offering similar niche content.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917925)
I wonder if the fact that Malone now has a 50% stake in UKTV is of any significance. He may have orchestrated this to reduce competition to his Discovery channel's??

I had considered that but it's maybe a little early in the day for Malone to be influencing events before the acquisition is complete. No doubt further consolidation will follow, subject to BBC approval. Food Network and Good Food also seem to be competing for the same audience for much of the time.

Media Boy UK 25-09-2017 19:09

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Here is some updated info we can reveal: RED mean information updated.

1) Virgin Media UK are in talks with an broadcaster.
2) New Channels may launch (Still not testing but Media Boy Sources say rumour as set to launch by 2019).
3) Virgin Media UK are testing something - hope to launch by 2018.
4) Rumours about more new channels (Got an broadcaster name confirmed).

RichardCoulter 25-09-2017 19:13

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Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35917937)
That can be said of pretty much any niche channel, they aren't going to attract a large number of viewers. Pay tv is supposed to increase choice by making such content available, even when it doesn't have a large audience. Maybe the problem is too many channels offering similar niche content.

I had considered that but it's maybe a little early in the day for Malone to be influencing events before the acquisition is complete. No doubt further consolidation will follow, subject to BBC approval. Food Network and Good Food also seem to be competing for the same audience for much of the time.


True.

Re: Eden low viewing figures. I don't think that their daft renaming excercise will have helped Eden to reach its target audience either. If I was interested in gardening and quickly going through the EPG I don't think that Eden would be enough of a prompt to make me connect the channel with the subject matter.

Media Boy UK 25-09-2017 19:14

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@JJ20X.

We think Bike TV will be removed and the two new Asian channels will launch this week.

Any news from your end?

RichardCoulter 25-09-2017 19:42

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Which Asian channels are launching MB?

I suppose that Bike will remain on the system (but off the EPG) to enable those who have recorded anything prior to its closure. Isn't it normally three months that they give??

Media Boy UK 25-09-2017 19:52

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917953)
Which Asian channels are launching MB?

I suppose that Bike will remain on the system (but off the EPG) to enable those who have recorded anything prior to its closure. Isn't it normally three months that they give??

MTV Beats and Rishtey Cineplex are broadcasting off the EPG on Virgin Media UK right now.

We did mean Bike TV being removed from Virgin UK Channel 552 - not from the system.

jj20x 25-09-2017 21:02

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Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35917949)
@JJ20X.

We think Bike TV will be removed and the two new Asian channels will launch this week.

Any news from your end?

The only news was the renaming of some of the Adult PPN service names on TS ID 15, which I didn't really think was important enough to include in this thread. Adult PPN NVOD service names were finally updated with the names of the services they are actually carrying. As I said, nothing really worth posting.

Aguero9320 25-09-2017 21:29

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Does anyone know anything about Gold? It seems to air programmes in a similar way to Eden, so will this mean that both Gold and Eden go FTA should Gold HD launch?

Ddonald2016 25-09-2017 21:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35917947)
Here is some updated info we can reveal: RED mean information updated.

1) Virgin Media UK are in talks with an broadcaster.
2) New Channels may launch (Still not testing but Media Boy Sources say rumour as set to launch by 2019).
3) Virgin Media UK are testing something - hope to launch by 2018.
4) Rumours about more new channels (Got an broadcaster name confirmed).

Are we talking anything uhd and do you mean by 2018 2019 or by end of 2018 2019

Media Boy UK 25-09-2017 21:37

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Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35917982)
Are we talking anything uhd and do you mean by 2018 2019 or by end of 2018 2019

It will be broadcasting on Virgin Media sometime before January 1st 2019.

We have an idea on when the channels may launch.

We have been on here for too long - it all just an rumour until THEY start broadcast off the Virgin Media UK EPG.

RichardCoulter 25-09-2017 21:43

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35917981)
Does anyone know anything about Gold? It seems to air programmes in a similar way to Eden, so will this mean that both Gold and Eden go FTA should Gold HD launch?

Good Food and Eden were expected to be the next UKTV channels to go FTA, but it looks like it will be GOLD SD and Eden SD.

muppetman11 25-09-2017 22:05

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This has been discussed many times on here usually by Old Boy but with a shift to On Demand I've said many times on here that I expect over time broadcasters to reduce the amount of linear channels available in favour of moving more of its content to On Demand.

Where my opinion differs from OB is that I don't believe we'll see the death of linear more a streamlining of it with easy access to each broadcasters On Demand portal.

theone2k10 25-09-2017 22:41

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35917981)
Does anyone know anything about Gold? It seems to air programmes in a similar way to Eden, so will this mean that both Gold and Eden go FTA should Gold HD launch?

Gold going fta has been doing the rounds for years i don't think it will though. I think Eden. good food will go fta and GOLD and W will remain as UKTVs premiun channels.

RichardCoulter 25-09-2017 22:58

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I think that there's a possibility that GOLD SD might go FTA, but I'm almost certain that GOLD HD will be exclusive to Sky (at least initially) and remain behind a paywall.

GOLD's 25th birthday is coming up; what better way to create a fanfare by declaring it's going HD (and for Sky to be able to announce that it's only available on their platform)?

If this comes to fruition, Sky customers will have lost a linear channel where HD can really be appreciated, in return for a channel that shows a lot of SD material. I suppose this is the inevitability of living in a free market capitalist economy!

jj20x 26-09-2017 00:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35917991)
Gold going fta has been doing the rounds for years i don't think it will though. I think Eden. good food will go fta and GOLD and W will remain as UKTVs premiun channels.

What about Alibi?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917992)
I think that there's a possibility that GOLD SD might go FTA, but I'm almost certain that GOLD HD will be exclusive to Sky (at least initially) and remain behind a paywall.

GOLD's 25th birthday is coming up; what better way to create a fanfare by declaring it's going HD (and for Sky to be able to announce that it's only available on their platform)?

If this comes to fruition, Sky customers will have lost a linear channel where HD can really be appreciated, in return for a channel that shows a lot of SD material. I suppose this is the inevitability of living in a free market capitalist economy!

At the moment Gold sits comfortably as a premium channel within the Now TV Entertainment pack. It will throw the cat among the pigeons if it does go FTA.

Ddonald2016 26-09-2017 08:42

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Anybody who was on the sky cinema beta where you can download movies, issue from yesterday has been sorted so now you on beta you should be able to download movies

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35917983)
It will be broadcasting on Virgin Media sometime before January 1st 2019.

We have an idea on when the channels may launch.

We have been on here for too long - it all just an rumour until THEY start broadcast off the Virgin Media UK EPG.

Not long to go then within 440 days he he

Bananaman_007 26-09-2017 12:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35917999)
What about Alibi?

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At the moment Gold sits comfortably as a premium channel within the Now TV Entertainment pack. It will throw the cat among the pigeons if it does go FTA.

The entertainment offering on Now TV has changed before though. I am sure they once offered History and Disney Channel

theone2k10 26-09-2017 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35917999)
What about Alibi?

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At the moment Gold sits comfortably as a premium channel within the Now TV Entertainment pack. It will throw the cat among the pigeons if it does go FTA.

Tbh i forgot about Alibi lol that will remain a pay channel i think so uktv will have W, GOLD and Alibi as their pay channels with the others going fta.
Another possibility is really and home merge into one channel and Eden and yesterday merge into one too this would free up 2 slots on freeview that uktv own and could possibly launch eden+1 and really+1.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35918037)
The entertainment offering on Now TV has changed before though. I am sure they once offered History and Disney Channel

They used to offer disney, cartoon network, nikleodeon and disney as part of the entertainment pack but they lost Disney and moved kids channels into a seperate package at a extra cost whilst also raising the price of the entertainment pass.
But they did add viceland woop. :sarcastic

jj20x 26-09-2017 13:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bananaman_007 (Post 35918037)
The entertainment offering on Now TV has changed before though. I am sure they once offered History and Disney Channel

Yes but I was thinking more of the share of subs revenue that UKTV gains from being included in the package.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918041)
Tbh i forgot about Alibi lol that will remain a pay channel i think so uktv will have W, GOLD and Alibi as their pay channels with the others going fta.
Another possibility is really and home merge into one channel and Eden and yesterday merge into one too this would free up 2 slots on freeview that uktv own and could possibly launch eden+1 and really+1.

Anything is possible with UKTV but I can't see Eden doing very well as an FTA channel. It's the old problem of niche channels only attracting a small number of viewers, which doesn't really appeal to advertisers. I believe that Yesterday +1 is still included in one of UKTV's DTPS (Freeview) licences, so they could easily launch that as a placeholder until they decide what to do.

OLD BOY 26-09-2017 15:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918052)

Anything is possible with UKTV but I can't see Eden doing very well as an FTA channel. It's the old problem of niche channels only attracting a small number of viewers, which doesn't really appeal to advertisers. I believe that Yesterday +1 is still included in one of UKTV's DTPS (Freeview) licences, so they could easily launch that as a placeholder until they decide what to do.

I was surprised to hear Eden described as a niche channel. I thought the nature programmes were popular, although I know these are not everybody's cup of tea.

denphone 26-09-2017 15:32

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918068)
I was surprised to hear Eden described as a niche channel. I thought the nature programmes were popular, although I know these are not everybody's cup of tea.

Its a matter of taste for some people OB as some peoples meat is another persons poison.

jj20x 26-09-2017 18:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918068)
I was surprised to hear Eden described as a niche channel. I thought the nature programmes were popular, although I know these are not everybody's cup of tea.

But it is a niche, it's the way broadcasters subdivide genres to isolate specific segments of the market. It works very well for quality content on pay-tv but not so well for FTA, which needs higher viewer numbers to be attractive to advertisers.

Documentaries as a whole attract around 13-15% of the overall audience. Further divide that into History, Science, Nature etc and the figures start to get fairly low. Then bear in mind that there are several broadcasters competing for the audience within each segment. Not really the mass appeal needed to thrive in the FTA market.

SonicMaster 26-09-2017 20:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35917948)
True.

Re: Eden low viewing figures. I don't think that their daft renaming excercise will have helped Eden to reach its target audience either. If I was interested in gardening and quickly going through the EPG I don't think that Eden would be enough of a prompt to make me connect the channel with the subject matter.

What?!

Eden has nothing to do with gardening.

It is a natural history and science channel.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 35917981)
Does anyone know anything about Gold? It seems to air programmes in a similar way to Eden, so will this mean that both Gold and Eden go FTA should Gold HD launch?

So much weird speculation about Gold doing FTA, people have wanted that to happen for years, but as one of the most established brands in Pay TV there is no reason for it to happen.

UKTV closing the HD version of Eden on Sky has nothing to do with any of their channels going FTA, especially Gold.

jj20x 26-09-2017 23:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35918097)
So much weird speculation about Gold doing FTA, people have wanted that to happen for years, but as one of the most established brands in Pay TV there is no reason for it to happen.

UKTV closing the HD version of Eden on Sky has nothing to do with any of their channels going FTA, especially Gold.

No, but the original speculation was for Gold HD to be starting on Sky, Astra 28.2E scans appear to confirm that speculation.

SonicMaster 26-09-2017 23:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918108)
No, but the original speculation was for Gold HD to be starting on Sky, Astra 28.2E scans appear to confirm that speculation.

Yes, and that's got nothing to do with Gold (in SD) going FTA. UKTV have launched HD versions of W, Alibi, Good Food and Eden and none of the SD versions have gone FTA.

jj20x 27-09-2017 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35918111)
Yes, and that's got nothing to do with Gold (in SD) going FTA. UKTV have launched HD versions of W, Alibi, Good Food and Eden and none of the SD versions have gone FTA.

As I've suggested previously, with Gold's inclusion in Now TV's Entertainment pack, it would be a very strange move for UKTV to take the channel FTA.

There are no solid facts to indicate that UKTV will be making any more of its pay tv channels FTA in the short term. That said, previous re-organisation within UKTV, such as the closure of Blighty have concluded with the launch of new FTA channels such as Drama. One to watch but, at the moment, rumours are simply rumours.

telegramsam 27-09-2017 10:00

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Just my opinion but I don't think GOLD will go FTA.

jj20x 27-09-2017 12:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 35918125)
Just my opinion but I don't think GOLD will go FTA.

I'm a little surprised that the thread seems more focussed on the FTA issue rather than the obvious question of "is Gold HD coming soon to Virgin Media TV?".

RichardCoulter 27-09-2017 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicMaster (Post 35918097)
What?!

Eden has nothing to do with gardening.

It is a natural history and science channel.

Ah right, I thought it was part of their nonsensical renaming, referring to the garden of Eden!

Just goes to show that this policy is fundamentally flawed. The reason they named Dave in such a way was because UKTV- believe that "everyone knows someone called Dave"!!

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918140)
I'm a little surprised that the thread seems more focussed on the FTA issue rather than the obvious question of "is Gold HD coming soon to Virgin Media TV?".

Indeed, I don't think that any of the UKTV channels are FTA on VM.

I also think that we won't get GOLD HD straight away as it will be a Sky exclusive.

Edit: GOLD HD is now broadcasting off the Sky EPG, it's been said that the upscaled SD material looks rather good.

jj20x 27-09-2017 17:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918161)
Indeed, I don't think that any of the UKTV channels are FTA on VM.

FTA doesn't really apply to VM as a closed platform. Sure, certain BBC and radio services exist outside the pack structure and basic PSB channels aren't encrypted, although additional services for adjacent regions are encrypted. Commercial PSB SD channels seem to exist in a strange zone where they are unencrypted but still included in most packs.

FTA status only really applies to open platforms.

Quote:

I also think that we won't get GOLD HD straight away as it will be a Sky exclusive.
More fun and games from Sky? I don't know about that to be honest. How valuable is largely upscaled material with very little native HD content? Hardly a big attraction

Quote:

Edit: GOLD HD is now broadcasting off the Sky EPG, it's been said that the upscaled SD material looks rather good.
Yes, I noted a few posts ago that Astra 28.2E scans had detected the channel broadcasting off the Sky EPG. There have been comments on DS about the quality but, in fairness, certain individuals making those claims would say the same if a grainy old VHS tape was being upscaled.

Media Boy UK 27-09-2017 19:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918161)
GOLD HD is now broadcasting off the Sky EPG, it's been said that the upscaled SD material looks rather good.

Del Boy TV in HD? Media Boy HQ need to call Astra UK - not.:banghead::sniper:

Eden HD is still broadcasting on Virgin UK Channel 249.

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Nick Jr Too cooking with Bacon next month.

Nick Jr Too rebrands temporarily as Nick Jr Peppa from October 2nd until November 1st.

jj20x 27-09-2017 21:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918177)
Nick Jr Too rebrands temporarily as Nick Jr Peppa from October 2nd until November 1st.

How exciting!! :p: I'd better get the service name for "Nick Jr Too" locked in the database so that this temporary rebrand doesn't flag up loads of irrelevant changes.

Speaking of changes.. I've been informed that "Sky Ocean Rescue HD" has been added to TS ID 39 SID 3904 and that frequency changes have taken place on several VM regional networks*. That update is from raw scan data, no doubt I'll be given further information over the next few hours / days as soon as it has been processed.

*Edit: frequency changes for networks served by the Barnsley & Brighton headends.

Media Boy UK 27-09-2017 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918227)
How exciting!! :p: I'd better get the service name for "Nick Jr Too" locked in the database so that this temporary rebrand doesn't flag up loads of irrelevant changes.

Speaking of changes.. I've been informed that "Sky Ocean Rescue HD" has been added to TS ID 39 SID 3904 and that frequency changes have taken place on several VM regional networks*. That update is from raw scan data, no doubt I'll be given further information over the next few hours / days as soon as it has been processed.

*Edit: frequency changes for networks served by the Barnsley & Brighton headends.

That an new Sky channel name for Media Boy HQ is an SD Channel also testing?

Maybe an Virgin Media Exclusive?;)

Only thing we can find on Sky Ocean Rescue is: https://skyoceanrescue.com/

jj20x 27-09-2017 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918234)
That an new Sky channel name for Media Boy HQ is an SD Channel also testing?

Maybe an Virgin Media Exclusive?;)

Only thing we can find on Sky Ocean Rescue is: https://skyoceanrescue.com/

There was nothing in the scan data for an SD channel, maybe coming soon? ;)

I found that site too but it doesn't really help. I'll try to extract some information from the raw scan data later tonight as it doesn't look like processed data will be updated any time soon. Too close to the end of the month for adhoc updates apparently.

Media Boy UK 27-09-2017 23:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918238)
There was nothing in the scan data for an SD channel, maybe coming soon? ;)

I found that site too but it doesn't really help. I'll try to extract some information from the raw scan data later tonight as it doesn't look like processed data will be updated any time soon. Too close to the end of the month for adhoc updates apparently.

Digital Spy Forum is reporting that Sky Ocean Rescue is also testing on Sky.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ead-week-38/p5 (See top post on Link)

DS Forum reporting it broadcasting on an HD channels transponder

Source: Digital Spy Forum, jimbo and omnidirectional.

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New name for Sky2?

theone2k10 27-09-2017 23:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918240)
Digital Spy Forum is reporting that Sky Ocean Rescue is also testing on Sky.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ead-week-38/p5 (See top post on Link)

DS Forum reporting it broadcasting on an HD channels transponder

Source: Digital Spy Forum, jimbo and omnidirectional.

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New name for Sky2?

I think it just a temp channel to promote SKYs campaign they are doing to clean up the oceans etc.

Media Boy UK 27-09-2017 23:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918245)
I think it just a temp channel to promote SKYs campaign they are doing to clean up the oceans etc.

What is it with Sky and Oceans?

They water bill must be high.:D

jj20x 28-09-2017 00:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy (Post 35918240)
New name for Sky2?

LOL, I hope not. Surely that will be Sky Pacific. ;)

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Quote:

Originally Posted by theone2k10 (Post 35918245)
I think it just a temp channel to promote SKYs campaign they are doing to clean up the oceans etc.

I think so. A contact suggested it is connected to UN Ocean Conference, but that was back in June, so maybe a little late for that.

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Analysis of the NIT data shows that Sky Ocean Rescue HD is testing on 5 internal VM networks normally associated with such tests.

Analysis of the SDT data shows that Sky Ocean Rescue HD is flagged in the Documentary section of the EPG on channel 244 with an EPG name of "Sky Ocean". Pack flags hadn't been added.

RichardCoulter 28-09-2017 03:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918227)
How exciting!! :p: I'd better get the service name for "Nick Jr Too" locked in the database so that this temporary rebrand doesn't flag up loads of irrelevant changes.

Speaking of changes.. I've been informed that "Sky Ocean Rescue HD" has been added to TS ID 39 SID 3904 and that frequency changes have taken place on several VM regional networks*. That update is from raw scan data, no doubt I'll be given further information over the next few hours / days as soon as it has been processed.

*Edit: frequency changes for networks served by the Barnsley & Brighton headends.

Maybe this is an indication that VM & Sky are indeed working together more if they are carrying this (assuming that this is a pop up channel to support the Sky initiative to help clear the oceans of plastic).

Let's hope that this leads to the addition of another Sky channel concerned with Oceans :D

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Bike now removed from the EPG.

jj20x 28-09-2017 04:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918257)
Bike now removed from the EPG.

Streams removed, parked on SID 952 (formerly 902), still technically parked on its old EPG slot but hidden from the EPG.

Rishtey Cineplex has launched on channel 828.
MTV Beats has launched on channel 841.

Ddonald2016 28-09-2017 09:23

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Seen the sky q advert where they say they have the widest range going like sport movies documentaries but since they don’t allow anybody else access they will automatically have widest range

Red_dog77 28-09-2017 09:36

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Any latest on Freesports?

spiderplant 28-09-2017 11:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35918269)
Seen the sky q advert where they say they have the widest range going like sport movies documentaries but since they don’t allow anybody else access they will automatically have widest range

Given that they don't have BT Sport, that seems a dubious claim. I expect it was carefully worded

denphone 28-09-2017 11:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_dog77 (Post 35918271)
Any latest on Freesports?

Nothing has come to my attention regarding Freesports..

Ddonald2016 28-09-2017 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 35918279)
Given that they don't have BT Sport, that seems a dubious claim. I expect it was carefully worded

I meant to say widest range of UHD aNywhere

theone2k10 28-09-2017 12:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Red_dog77 (Post 35918271)
Any latest on Freesports?

Still in talks as far as we're aware.

OLD BOY 28-09-2017 15:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ddonald2016 (Post 35918283)
I meant to say widest range of UHD aNywhere

Until Amazon muscle in on the action! ;)

denphone 28-09-2017 16:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918297)
Until Amazon muscle in on the action! ;)

l am sure l have heard that sentiment before if my memory serves me right.;)

OLD BOY 28-09-2017 16:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35918308)
l am sure l have heard that sentiment before if my memory serves me right.;)

At least I'm consistent. :D

Ddonald2016 28-09-2017 22:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 35918297)
Until Amazon muscle in on the action! ;)

Yeah but we pay virgin media to provide a tv service time they got of there ass

RichardCoulter 29-09-2017 02:58

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin Media TV (2017)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918262)
Streams removed, parked on SID 952 (formerly 902), still technically parked on its old EPG slot but hidden from the EPG.

Rishtey Cineplex has launched on channel 828.
MTV Beats has launched on channel 841.

Are you able to tell which channels are encrypted via the scans?

The Ocean channel is encrypted on satellite, which seems odd if it is indeed an excercise by Sky to raise awareness of sea pollution.

jj20x 29-09-2017 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918366)
Are you able to tell which channels are encrypted via the scans?

The Ocean channel is encrypted on satellite, which seems odd if it is indeed an excercise by Sky to raise awareness of sea pollution.

I guess it will be encrypted on VM as it's not a PSB or a radio service. Video and audio streams hadn't been added across the national network at the time of the scan so, obviously, no encryption either.

As pack flags hadn't been added at the time of the scan, it suggests that encryption hadn't been added at that point. Not that it really matters as it was only available on 5 internal networks.

I've not received any new scan data at this point but a quick check of http://www.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.ph...ng=fr&mux=C066 indicates that video and audio has now been added across the national network but that it isn't encrypted at this point.

Edit: I've just been informed that video / audio streams were rolled out across the national network at some point yesterday and that encryption has subsequently been added.

RichardCoulter 29-09-2017 14:23

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Thanks.

RichardCoulter 30-09-2017 00:49

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Anyone else finding that RishteyCine isn't showing up in the international section?

Ch 828 only shows up in the full EPG listings :confused:

OLD BOY 30-09-2017 03:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918460)
Anyone else finding that RishteyCine isn't showing up in the international section?

Ch 828 only shows up in the full EPG listings :confused:

Yes.

jj20x 30-09-2017 03:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918460)
Anyone else finding that RishteyCine isn't showing up in the international section?

Ch 828 only shows up in the full EPG listings :confused:

Because it is flagged as "Entertainment", as is Ch 840 Brit TV Asia. Another anomaly is "Really" which is in the General Entertainment number sequence of the EPG but is flagged as Lifestyle.

Interesting that "Entertainment" isn't actually selectable as a category on the EPG.

RichardCoulter 30-09-2017 19:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jj20x (Post 35918462)
Because it is flagged as "Entertainment", as is Ch 840 Brit TV Asia. Another anomaly is "Really" which is in the General Entertainment number sequence of the EPG but is flagged as Lifestyle.

Interesting that "Entertainment" isn't actually selectable as a category on the EPG.

Odd isn't it, I wonder if these are oversights. If I were interested in foreign programming i'd go straight to the international section and probably miss it.

I think that Sky have a general entertainment section from what I remember.

Mickey & Pals closed this morning and reverted back to Disney XD +1.

jj20x 01-10-2017 14:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918366)
The Ocean channel is encrypted on satellite, which seems odd if it is indeed an excercise by Sky to raise awareness of sea pollution.

It has pack flags for Player, More, Mix, M+, L/Fun & XL/Full House, so should have fairly comprehensive coverage.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 35918521)
Odd isn't it, I wonder if these are oversights. If I were interested in foreign programming i'd go straight to the international section and probably miss it.

I think that Sky have a general entertainment section from what I remember.

I suppose the reason for not making "Entertainment" selectable on VM is because the channels are at the top of the "All Channels" EPG anyway. I agree about the International section listings but don't know if it is an oversight or done at the request of the broadcaster but, either way, it is odd.

Quote:

Mickey & Pals closed this morning and reverted back to Disney XD +1.
Yes, the SDT changed overnight, as expected, but Mickey & Pals content continued until 6am. Channels traditionally schedule content from 6am to 6am rather than midnight to midnight.


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