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I may snap it up seeing it is £20 cheaper than normal this weekend.

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BIB

I'm sure that's changed now?

Anyway it's more than streaming and next day delivery.

You get Prime music, a free ebook each month plus a free editors choice book of the month, a month before it goes on sale. Unlimited cloud storage for your photos and early access to the 'deals of the day'. If that isn't worth £59 a year i'm not sure what is TBH. I'm on my 3rd year of Prime membership and it would take a huge price hike for me to cancel it.

j Bezos. :D

That did sound like a sales pitch didn't it ;)

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Agreed. Great value for me at the full price of £79. Bargain at £59.

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Argos are now giving them a run for their money on that. Order by 6pm, get it same day, even on Sundays. How long this will be sustainable we'll have to see.

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Amazon make such a small profit they wouldn't pay much in the way of corporate taxes anyway:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2016/05/4.png

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That's because they keep re-investing in new Tech and expanding the business - if you use your profits for that, the tax is non-existent, as the spend on new stuff reduces your taxable profits).

For many years, they never made a profit, and they've never paid a dividend, either.

People often confuse turnover with profit - companies are taxed on profits, not turnover.

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Tesco have a Now TV box with 6 months Entertainment pass for £25 also available a 4 months movie pass and box for £25.

I couldn't find cheaper anywhere else and in stock so I snapped up the 6 months Entertainment pack using clubcard vouchers.

http://www.tesco.com/direct/now-tv-h...skuId=654-6825

http://www.tesco.com/direct/now-tv-h...skuId=477-6762

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6 months free and then £39 for Amazon for Students.

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I got Amazon Prime purely for the new Clarkson show.

But as I buy a lot form Amazon I get next day delivery free and before 1pm for £4.50 rather than £9.

Plus I have found some great shows on video (Mr Robot & The Man in the High Castle)

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BBC gets green light to launch Netflix rival

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...dia_b-gdnmedia

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Does anybody know where sellers on eBay etc get their Now TV passes from?

There doesn't seem to be a problem selling fake or expired passes as per comments in the 'Coming Soon' thread.

All I can think of is that they buy the box for the free catch up services and/or Plex, don't want Sky TV and recoup some of the cost by selling on the vouchers that come with the box??

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As if there wasn't already enough reason to back Brexit:

Netflix, Amazon Prime and other VoD services could be asked in the not too distant future to respect a 20 percent quota for European content in every EU member state

http://www.telecompaper.com/news/net...quota--1143736

Dear, oh dear oh dear!

EU: "Britain, what would you like to do with Netflix content"
Britain: "Keep the mix the same as it is now"
EU: "Tough. You will obey the rules of the Federal States of Europe. And it's no good complaining; we have unelected people who will force you to do what you don't want to do"

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yes, you'd be steaming mad to stay in this poisonous union, we have NO say folks, vote out!

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Except

So it will be voted on by elected UK MEPs, and by the Council which is made up of Europe governments, who are also elected.

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So Britain's views could still be out voted. Why on earth does Britain's choice on the UK Netflix/Amazon content mix have anything to do with any other country? It should have nothing to do with the EU. It's completely barmy. Some people don't realise that the desire of the EU is to take over every aspect of our regulations. Even so far as interfering with our cultural preferences.

Harmonise culture over a group of nations and each countries distinctiveness starts to be eroded. An ideal prerequisite for the formation of a single state with one identity

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What choice? Netflix (and other streaming providers) decide what content is available in the UK at present along with the content providers as part of commercial agreements.

The flip side of the 20% of European content on Netflix, is that the EU want all users to be able to roaming with their streaming service within the EU.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/articl...s-while-abroad

Personally I'd quite like to have access to content from EU countries just as I'd like access to content from other non-EU countries that aren't the US, and it would also mean that other countries could have access to UK produced content.

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The difference is between Netflix choosing to ad 20% of EU content and being forced to add it.

Netflix have got detailed analysis of what UK viewers like. If they're forced to use some of their acquisitions budget to provide 20% EU content, then there is less money to spend on the content UK viewers like. To provide the same amount of UK desired content plus 20% EU content, Netflix would have to raise their prices.

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More here:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4798d428-1...#axzz496jWAybS

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I think some have been given away with groceries, Carling beer and Chromecast in the past so there's probably lots of free promotions going on so pure profit for the sellers who don't even incur postage, just email across the codes.

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Samsung are the latest to be rumoured to be launching a streaming tv service. http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/...iption-service

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Cheers, I was just curious.

Is their a rule about the vouchers not being transferable (in case anything goes wrong)?

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I don't think so as Now TV forum staff have even suggested customers giving them to friends and family in response to complaints about the changes in the Entertainment Pass.

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New series of Bloodlines starts on Netflix on Friday 27th May.

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Looking forward to that I enjoyed the first , we've enjoyed the 2nd series of 'The Tunnel' for anyone with a Now TV Entertainment pass.

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I still have to watch the first season lol, i'm way behind on a lot of shows atm.

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Npower were/are giving them away to their customers, I imagine that a lot have come from there.

If they don't need/want it, it gives them a bit of cash and someone gets a cheap pass!

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Is the Big Bang Theory a show easy to follow, or is it full of scientific stuff that would go over my brain? Can't choose between that or House of Cards to start watching.

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Big Bang is excellent very funny.

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Both are great.

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Not much brain power needed for the Big Bang Theory. Quite funny, but typical American corny humour.

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Not my type of humour sadly.

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It's one if not the best watched comedy in the USA like I say excellent in my opinion but each to their own.

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USA comedy is vastly different to UK comedy as we all know but as you say each to their own tastes.

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Totally agree Den but please name one good UK comedy currently airing.

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None as the comedies we enjoy in our family are the older ones and l think that says everything about modern UK comedy which in my opinion is utterly dreadful in comparison.

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I didn't think Plebs was too bad?

We just don't do sitcoms like we used to.

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I'm also a big fan of Big Bang Theory. I personally think the dialogue was more geekier in the early seasons and the characters have changed a lot as you go through.

Don't let that stop you though, it's funny with the occasional average episode. they're only 20 mins so you can get through them quite quick

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Upstart Crow has a lot of potential.

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Yes, some US comedies are funny :)

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Could this be the start of the big global operators giving Sky a run for their money? Looks like Sky Disney will not last for much longer unless it is going to concentrate on their older stuff.

http://advanced-television.com/2016/...s-this-summer/

Netflix has announced that from September it will be the exclusive US pay-TV home for all Disney, Marvel, Lucasfilm and Pixar movies released from 2016 onwards.

Meaning, it will be the only place to find movies such as Captain America: Civil War, The Jungle Book and the upcoming Star Wars sequels and the Rogue One spin-off prequel.

“The 2016 (Disney) releases will start rolling on in September and we’ll share specific dates/titles closer to their premiere on the service,” Netflix told Variety.

The deal was actually signed three years ago and is reported to have cost Netflix $400 million.

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Netflix and Amazon must guarantee 20% of content is European in a shake-up of broadcasting rules.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/201...nt-is-european

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Expect them to buy up loads and loads of the cheapest British reality tv to make up the 20%. Nobody will watch it but problem solved.

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See post 2712 and brief discussion afterwards ;)

I can't believe that only myself and MadMax seem outraged at blatant EU interference in Britain's entertainment sources.

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Problem isn't solved


See my previous post in the thread, Netflix to raise prices, or reduce their current content.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/35...-post2717.html

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TV and films are becoming more global. Through co-funding between companies of different countries to using actors and production staff from different countries. There doesn't need to be rules. The only reason the EU wants rules is because most European tv is so bad.

Spanish tv is two things bulls and football. French tv, shagging and political discussion (not at the same time, unfortunately), Italian tv: Game shows and football etc

This is the standard the EU wants.... I'll stick to shows like House of Cards, thank you very much.

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The regulations being mooted mirror existing ones for broadcast TV.

Also, put your pitchfork down. Unless if the UK leaves the EU, there is already enough EU content on Netflix in Europe thanks to UK content so nothing will change.

Of course, if we leave the EU, the UK wont be subject to this regulation any longer (For broadcast TV and On Demand services if this becomes adopted), but we will lose access to the roaming rights that the EU want us to have too.

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No mate i'm with you and Max on this the EU can just do one, roll on next month i say when we can start the process to leave this stupid state.

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Count me in. ;)

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As the deal is just for the US, Sky Movies Disney is not affected. My guess this is a trial and if it pays off for Netflix, they may seek to expand it more widely which of course would threaten Sky Movies Disney. But in the UK, they would face a very strong challenge from Sky.

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Given the choice of 20% European content (which we have anyway) v a cost of £20bn-£40bn a year of leaving the EU then like VM I'm voting to stay put. It's not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination but independent research shows that we will suffer if we leave.
"The highly respected Institute for Fiscal Studies accused the Brexit campaign on Wednesday of peddling “clearly absurd” figures suggesting Britain would save large sums of money if it left the EU.
Rather than saving £350m a week, or £18bn a year, from Brexit, the IFS research suggests a vote to leave would cost £20bn to £40bn a year and require additional austerity, lasting into the next decade, if the government still wanted to eliminate the deficit."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b2858ec6-2...#axzz49WKuUSyj (registration required)

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Sky signed a deal with disney towards the end of 2015.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...th-Disney.html

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Lol, you can argue anything depending on which side you are on, both camps have came up with figures to help their cause, industry leaders from some of our top companies say we should quit, others say we should leave, studies by "highly respected" IFS, lol, thats maybe because they want to stay in?? Anyway this is probably in the wrong forum, but to finish I want us out, I want the UK to control its own destiny and make its own decisions, and not to be run by a bunch of looneys in Brussels, but, most of all, I want control of our borders! Brexit for me.....................:)

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But it shows how Netflix is thinking. The next round will be very interesting.

Sky have deep pockets, it's true, but the pockets of Netflix will be even deeper in four years' time.

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This should really be limited to video but I have to respond just once to you.

Sorry Andrew, I just don't trust the many economic institutions that have come out in support of the government, or many of the senior politicians supporting staying in. Quite a number of them have been attendees of Bilderberg meetings, where the details of discussions are kept secret. These are discussions between high powered financiers, world leaders, and senior politicians.

Mark Carney (formerly an employee of Goldman Sachs, who have their fingers in a lot of European countries) attended a couple of years prior to being made Governor of the bank of England. Others include... Angela Merkel, Herman Van Rompuy (ex President of EU Council), Jean Claude Juncker, (Present President of the EU Commission), Martin Schultz,( Present President of EU Parliament), David Cameron, George Osbourne, Tony Blair, Ed Balls, Rona Fairhead, (Chair of the BBC Trust), Michael O’Leary of RyanAir, Stuart Rose (ex M & S, and BSE Chairman), Bill Clinton, Barak Obama and many more.

Not difficult to see what they have in common, is it?

If Bilderberg would release full un-edited minutes, I might listen to these people.

The Bilderberg group are at heart globalists, who see a United States of Europe as a stepping stone in their plan.

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Netflix can think how it wants but it's Disney what matter , it appears they are already questioning licensing content to third party streaming services going forward.

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True, Disney may decide to set up their own on demand site. Time will tell.

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They already have their own streaming service.

Whilst media companies have been quick to sell its content to third party streaming services some are now starting to realise that this has come at a cost to its traditional core offering.

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... I think Hulu is a test bed for Disney, Comcast and Fox. They want to see who watches what and at what times. Then at some time in the future, they may decide to launch their own streaming services, or still collaborate on Hulu and with others like Netflix.

The thing about Netflix that goes over most people's heads, is their value is not in their original series', that's still in its infancy. Or its interface, easily replicated by others. But in the information it gathers on viewing habits. That is very valuable. Perhaps Disney might buy them??

The big media companies don't know which way to jump. Neflix and Amazon are hurting not just the main US tv networks, but the pay tv channels too. They're frightened to put all their eggs in one on demand basket at the expense of their traditional and still very profitable broadcast and pay tv channels business'.

I'm watching what Disney does closely as well. They have the biggest film franchisee in history and you can bet they'll want to make as much dosh out of the "force" as they can.

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NOW TV with 6 months Entertainment pass only £19.95 for 6 months at Argos:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Produc...er/4590602.htm

Buy 2 and that's SKY Atlantic, and various SKY Atlantic boxsets, for a whole year for less than £40.00. Pretty good deal. Works out at £3.32 per month.

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Yes, I think they're testing the water with their DisneyLife service. If Disney can make more money selling its content directly then it will. It could work well for Disney as its content spans books and music as well as films and TV. Disney has some strong film franchises but does it - or any one studio - have enough for its own stand-alone film-streaming service. I'm not so sure.

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This is bad news for consumers, I already subscribe to three streaming services, I couldn't afford a forth unless I left one of the others, so less content for me to watch

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Without veering off topic too much, you misunderstand. IFS is independent and neutral. This was acknowledged today by Economists for Brexit so this is not one side's propaganda.

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The fragmentation of cable packages is potentially bad news for some consumers. Traditional cable packages are relatively cheap per channel as they work on the basis that some people watch some channels and some people watch other channels but no one watches all the channels all the time. Some people understandably misunderstand how the system works and think they're paying for channels they don't watch. For example, BT in the XL pack cost VM about £3.50 per subscriber but it costs a lot more than this to subscribe to the channel itself.

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Oooh, totally unaware of this. Most interesting. Thought you were talking about Hulu. Wonder what Sky thinks of it?

As for there being enough content, if you were to include all ABC produced shows, including new ones and including new films which Sky has the rights for at the moment, absolutely. But that's not what will be on this service, so I'm not sure how attractive it would be without all the latest stuff.

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A good deal Chad? hmm not so sure, I don't really want to pay to watch stuff in SD..........:td:

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Nowtv on demand content is 720p soon to be 1080p i believe when the new nowtv box launches, the live channel streams are sd yes but they are decent quality.

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Can you access Now TV through a smart TV app?

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I think only lg at the moment, no nowtv app is on my samsung i have the nowtv box which in a way is better as you get skysportsnews app on it with the entertainment pass.

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Yes, LG TVs and Bluray players.

Bluray interface hasn't been updated, and is pretty clunky. Not sure about TV interface. As theone says, Now TV box is very good.

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And they also want to add more adds per hour to broadcast TV

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/673...n-Prime-Now-TV

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They don't. Per the article, they're just getting rid of some red tape that caps the amount of advertising a channel can show. "The Commission wants to remove the cap on commercial broadcasters, which limits them to a maximum of 12 minutes of advertising per hour by EU law." The headline of the article has been written to pander to Richard Desmond's beliefs knowing that most people won't read it in full. it's not what has actually been proposed.

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Surely, that means we could be exposed to more adds per hour? Are you saying commercial broadcasters won't take advantage of it?

ITV seem happy at the prospect of it:

Sorry Andrew, but I fail to see how you are putting a positive spin on this; people don't like adds and certainly don't want more.

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Let us not go down the US or NZ route of nearly 20 minutes of ads per hour....

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The Express headline said "EU rules British TV should be German mini series interrupted by INCESSANT adverts"

The truth is that the EU is proposing removing the cap on advertising. The EU is not proposing that we have incessant adverts and we should become German mini series.

That's not spin, it's a basic fact check. Whether it's a good thing or a bad thing is another debate. And whether it will actually happen is another point entirely. But it's important to understand that the media landscape is changing dramatically. If channels don't get the necessary income to survive by product placement and adverts, subscription costs will go up or content will go down.

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Wake me up Sir when the adverts have finished.;)

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Don't disagree with you on the headline, but surely, when people follow a link, they read the article, not just the headline? The article states quite clearly that, if the law comes into being, we could be subject to more adds per hour. That is a fact.

I object to the EU interfering with the British TV and video industry. We'll manage it ourselves, thank you very much.

There is no need to interfere with these kinds of things; well, unless you're planning a united states of Europe, that is ;)

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Very often people just look at the headlines even if they click on the link. Hence in the popular press headlines can be totally removed from the reality of the articles.

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Yeah US is pretty bad 5 mins of show then ad break and repeat until end of show, a lot even take a ad break just before the end credits.

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Well having a Samsung 3D TV, 3D Blu-ray, Tablet & Phone, I hope this is free ;)

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Well, Disney moves out of Now TV in the next month so I guess both will see how it affects UK audiences. I would guess that is why they lauched the Kids Now TV bundle at this point.


...not sure this is the post I meant to quote....

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Disney are clearly wanting to sell their own content online whilst still keeping it's deal with the traditional satellite/cable/IPTV platforms.

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Same here.

Just received an email from Argos about a streaming services sale. Thought I'd give others the heads up and ask those more knowledgeable than myself for some advice too:

- Roku 3 £99 to £69.

- Roku 2 £69 to £54.99

- Roku £49.99 to £39.99

- Google Chromecast £30.

Are these prices good?

Which is the best to go for?

Will they all have Now TV as I've been given a Movie voucher :)

Can Plex (or anything similar) be side loaded onto all of these like the Now TV box?

Cheers.

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What services do you want? Is it just Now TV and terrestrial catchup services?

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There's a new Now TV box coming out on 25th June, Richard, you might want to wait to see what it's like before deciding.

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Now TV is preferable as I've been given a free movie voucher, but not essential.

I would like the terrestrial catch up services so I don't have to use the TiVo as it takes too long, but again this might not be essential if the new TiVo software and box resolve this problem.

Cheers :)

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What are your needs? If it's just to watch a Now TV film pass worth £9 as a one-off, it may be more cost effective to watch it on a computer or tablet.

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Well, I prefer to watch things on the TV and also want to have a play about to see what other content is out there.

I am also thinking of downgrading my TiVo package to M for the main/free channels and using streaming services (pay or free) to obtain any extra channels that I want.

The only channel I think i'd miss from XL would be Animal Planet. If I can't get this any other way, I might downgrade to M+ as VM include the SD channel in the M+ package.

I understand why I'd no longer get the HD variant, but blocking the +1 channel seems very petty.

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Will be interesting to see it. As I understand it, it will have an EPG combining the Freeview channels and the Now TV live channels.
Richard, what do you want the streaming device to do that your Smart TV and Tivo cannot deliver at the moment? (But no harm having extra tech if you like it. :) )

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Makes sense and a good opportunity to sample Atlantic content too. For the deals you get from time to time, I reckon the Now TV boxes are best value as they are pretty much free but they don't allow access to competitors like Netflix and Amazon though. Then again, Amazon does not provide access to Now TV.

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Will you use the Freeview side of the box if your connecting it to a Smart TV anyway , I'm sure you'll find the EPG is a lot more limited than the one on your smart TV.;)

The current black Now TV box is also smaller in size.

https://youtu.be/zPIeYXUiufk

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Am I reading this correctly? Add the Sky film channels to a big bundle on Virgin Movies and that will cost an extra £21 per month, whereas the movies pass on Now TV is £9.99!

Doesn't sound right to me. What is the true position? If true, the obvious couse of action for me is to ditch the movies package on Virgin and get the Movies Pass on Now TV. I don't know why I didn't notice this earlier!!

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Or better still pay 6 months upfront and add a voucher for £35.99 equivalent to £6 a month for movies.;)

http://www.nowtv.com/offers/moviesoffers

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I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying MM, please explain, thx

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The main difference with the new box is that it has an aerial connection for receiving terrestrial channels , do you need that ?

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So the movies add on with VM is £21 per month! Christ!!

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I see, didn't know that, thx. I've read that it will be a better box all round though, did I see it written that it will be able to deliver 4K content, or did I get that wrong?

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If you have Sky Movies on Sky you get them in HD free now I believe , has this changed also on VM or do you still have to pay an additional £7 ?

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The cheapest option is a Now TV box. That will give you Now TV plus BBC, ITV, CH4 and CH5 catch up services, plus a handful of apps, including Youtube. Box is £15, but you can find deals for the box with 3 months Entertainment pass for the same price and other bundled deals.

There is a new box due to be released with access to Freeview channels and maybe more (details under wraps)

The Now TV is a customised Roku box. A 'proper' Roku box will give you many more apps but more importantly, access to Netflix and Amazon Prime, if you decide you want to subscribe to either one of them.

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Sky movies via VM gives you 1080 and 5.1 sound.

Only you can work out whether the increased resolution and 5.1 sound is worth the extra cost. I suspect for many people it isn't, especially if they don't have a 5.1 audio system.

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So what's the announcement from my YouTube link on the 29th June ?

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Netlfix VPN restrictions have started. It takes about a day or two before the blacklist comes but it merely blacklists the IP after a few days use and doesn't do anything to prevent you using another server. I also signed into a secondary account and re-used the same server without reconfiguring the VPN and it appears the blacklist of an IP applies to only that account and isn't global in the case of fears over re-leased IP's.

Again making it look like they're doing stuff to prevent it but appearing still not to care enough to force actual region locks on sign up preventing you from ever accessing non UK content. I.E they could implement a system that locks your region upon sign up and forces you into that upon each login regardless of IP location.

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You've lost me there MM, all it says is that there is an announcement, presumably details of the new box. Sky have already trailed the live Freeview channels bit, but other details are under wraps until 29th June.

As you pointed out, live channels are superfluous to most people with a TV. As to whether there is anything else worth having, above the standard black Now TV, remains to be seen on the 29th.

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It says it's so much more maybe new packs/packages ?

Could just be the box who knows , as far as I'm aware most of the info on the new box is pretty much out there.

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I had a call from VM offering me SKY Movies for £10 per month; which I turned down as it still wasn't worth it:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...gin-media.html

Thanks for the advice everyone.

It looks like the Rokus etc are only worth it if you want Netflix or Amazon. I don't, but could use Netflix via TiVo if I wanted to, so I don't think I'll bother.

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I asked about this at the end of last April, keep an eye on this thread MM :)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...l#post35842252

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Interesting. Maybe a Sky/HBO partnership version of HBO Now as a separate option, at an increased cost?

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Who knows you may well be right and it's just info about the box , I guess time will tell.