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Atlantic isn't on TV Anywhere

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Will they be available for MRS?

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I assume its because the owners of the channel want different deals for TV, PCs and mobile devices

Most channel owners are guilty of having different deals depending on where their channel will be viewed frustrating the hell out of their viewers

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You'd like to think they would sort out the rights for MRS at the same time as TVA but this is Virginmedia we are talking about!

---------- Post added at 13:16 ---------- Previous post was at 13:15 ----------

Where you seeing that a deal has been done for Atlantic for TVA? :erm:

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Sounds good, MB! But I spoke to a Sky worker the other week and they are two years into a five-year exclusive deal with HBO and they said Sky Atlantic will never launch on a competitor's EPG. How selfish is that?!. Sounds like Sky's USP! But Virgin don't have one, but hey-ho! Let's enjoy the rest of the Sky channels that they hopefully offer us such as Pick TV +1, Sky1 +1 AND TWO NEW HD CHANNELS!!! Yay!

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British Sky Broadcasting:
-Pick TV +1
-Sky1 +1
-Sky Atlantic
-Sky Atlantic +1
-Sky News HD
-Sky Sports F1 HD
-Sky Sports News HD

MTV Networks Europe:
-MTV CLASSIC
-MTV HD
-MTV LIVE
-MTV MUSIC
-MTV +1

Nickelodeon UK (MTV Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting):
-Nickelodeon HD
-Nick Jr. +1

Paramount UK Partnership (Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting):
-Comedy Central Extra +1

Be great if we get all of these channels but I doubt if Sky Atlantic & Sky Sports F1 HD will be on VM for a long time yet...

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Just gimme SA and l will be very happy.

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Totally agree Den :)

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I did forgot to remove Sky Atlantic, Sky Atlantic +1 and Sky Sports F1 HD before posting.

@Denphone

We are unlikely to see Sky Atlantic on Virgin Media until Sky tell the rights to Sky Atlantic to other Networks (BT Vision, UPC Ireland and others.)

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Looks like 2013 is the year of new channels so far :)

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Indeed and for once the doomsayers have nowt to say for ones so vocal.:)

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Your hanging the red flag out there Den.;)

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New UKTV logo to go live on March 26th

UKTV will launch a redesign next Tuesday as part of its 21st Birthday as part of the redesign a new modern logo has been unveiled

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2013/03/46.jpg

As part of the re brand UKTV will make an onscreen return such as UKTV Gold, UKTV Dave, UKTV Yesterday ect

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:nono::nono: There has always been a flag of independence which flutters proudly in our household.:)

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The last deal Virgin Media signed with Viacom was in August 2010 when MTV Classic, MTV +1 and MTV Shows was removed on Virgin to make room for Comedy Central HD to launch.

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Surprised MTV haven't asked for a move down to the 100s like on Sky.

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Maybe we will see MTV moving when Virgin re-sign with them (Look what happened with Universal and Syfy +1)

-Virgin Media signs deal with Viacom in August 2010.
-Sky did move MTV in February 2011.
-The Following Channels are owned by Viacom but is not on Virgin Media.

MTV CLASSIC
MTV HD
MTV LIVE
MTV MUSIC
MTV +1
Nickelodeon HD
Nick Jr. +1
Comedy Central Extra +1

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wish we could get mtv classic back

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I agree Dave42; and I would like Comedy Central Extra +1

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Confirmed: Virgin Media in talks with Sky over Sky Atlantic.

Virgin Media has posted the following on their Twitter page.

https://twitter.com/SonbdSonya/statu...17205456224256

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S: We want £X
V: No
...

The false hope continues on Twitter.

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They've said this in reply to all twitter/Facebook posts about Atlantic since before the channel even launched

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Speculation , Speculation , Speculation.

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You (I think) said last week that an Sky deal with Virgin are up this July so maybe Virgin are in talks with them for:

Sky Atlantic
Sky Atlantic +1
Pick TV +1
Sky1 +1
Sky News HD
Sky Sports News HD?

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Have just read that BT may not allow BT Sports onto VM and will only do so if it makes "commercial sense to do so." Therefore it's very possible that BT Sports will not be coming soon to VM.

BT made this comment on their website.

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Indeed so lets see what the wind blows in regarding the next few months.

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It will make a lot of people very happy if it comes off. ;)

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Seems the case of the fool in BT who said this and if BT follow that then it really will be a case of the fool following the fool.:dozey:

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Personally I don't watch much American TV other than Homeland. I'd be more fussed about getting Sky F1 HD

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Checked my ipad, no sign, take it they're not available for it:(

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Think they clue was in the 'web version' part.. seems crazy they are negotiating deals for TVA yet not including all platforms.
Am hoping they are working on these, and when/if the Android version ever launches, we have a strong line up of channels.

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Pay as you watch anyone?
http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/18/v...-viewing-time/

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I only want Atlantic if it is in HD, otherwise it is a waste for me.

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Was there a test of history+1 a few week ago on vm?

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News to me...

:confused:

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:D Good point, the selection available on ipad is pretty poor though. Would like to see Virgin step up their efforts with this. Selection is great on web version, but my laptop isn't great, viewing on ipad is excellent. Would actually rather Virgin made all channels on Tv Anywhere available to ipad users rather than get Atlantic.

Think they are merely paying lip service to the Atlantic negotiations tbh.

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First l have heard of it as well.

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So do you not watch any channel unless it is in HD?

Presumably you didn't watch any TV before HD was broadcast?

Most of us want the HD version of any channel, but to say you won't watch a show because it is not in HD just sounds barmy to me.

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Every new channel should be in HD, especially flagship ones.

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Well they can't do it without agreement. Whether that's a new agreement, or it has scope beyond TVA, I wouldn't know.

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Totally agree matey,more and more people are getting tablets these days and ignoring them by just putting channels to be able on pc's and laptops is vm yet again burying there heads in the sand.so frustrating and disappointing

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Major cock up on the epg as it says Thirteen Ghosts on SyFy but on SyFy HD it says ring of fire? When will they sort out the epg?

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I would like to see more channels added to TVA

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Al Jazeera set to launch local UK channel?

http://www.a516digital.com/2013/03/a...-advanced.html

Info from a516digital.com and AFP.

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We have had this question asked many times before and the answer as always is we didn't have 50 inch + sets years ago... My set up at home has cost me a few grand, if I can't watch game of thrones for example in hd quality with 5.1 sound from my pay tv provider then I will source it from somewhere else, then no one wins, not sky or vm.

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But you can source it from a pay TV provider, just not the one you choose to go with. You can't use the fact that it's not available on Virgin to justify sourcing it by illegal means.

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This is the problem with exclusive deals for TV content, people will obtain programmes illegally if it is not available to them the way they want it to be. Also I imagine people that can get it legally also watch it illegally so that they get it the same time as America. Customers should not have to go to a certain provider to get access to one or two channels that they want.

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Music to my ears!:D

---------- Post added at 10:53 ---------- Previous post was at 10:51 ----------

Also, more channels that I want here!:) Keep the new channels rollin in VM;); don't let your standards drop!:angel: Before we know it, we will have caught up with Sky on the number of channels on each platform:D:D:D.

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My friend said it came on his TiVo box very briefly next to history.

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Exactly. No change to VM's position.

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and cant see sky changing position either so we wont get it

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No offence but that's just MB speculating again over possible deals and what channels might come of it.
Similar to the tweet above saying VM are confirmed in talks with Sky over SA. No point getting your hopes up, VM have been saying that since SA launched.

Some people seem to take what's said on here as gospel, until VM confirm anything then it's pure speculation, as insiders have proved in the past with giving false info/hopes.

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Agreed with the last comment, until you see it, take it as gossip.

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People who buy 50 inch TVs should be aware that SD pictures may not look as good on such a big screen. And they are obviously aware that not all TV channels are broadcast in HD. So surely they factor these things into the decision to buy such a big screen?

Given that the percentage of VM customers with 50inch TVs is probably quite small, it would be wrong of VM to stop aquiring SD only content just because a samall percentage of their subscribers turn their noses up at SD quality pictures.

I want as much HD as possible, but I'm sorry, I do find it crazy that people would not view content that they really want to watch just because it is in SD.

That's the option to get around your problem. The trouble is, blueray releases/legit download services are only available several months after the show has aired.

---------- Post added at 11:54 ---------- Previous post was at 11:51 ----------

Agreed, it's about time that the exclusive deals system that the studios love, was ended. But sadly, I can't see that happening anytime soon.

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Radio Times reveal EPG Channel number for Sky Movies Disney and Sky Movies Select.

From March 28th.

Sky Movies Disney will be on Virgin Channel 407 (Also in HD on Virgin Channel 437).
Sky Movies Select will be on Virgin Channel 412 (Also in HD on Virgin Channel 442).

All the rest Sky Movies channels will stay on the same Virgin Channels as they broadcast on right now.

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Many thanks MB :)

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Thanks MB.

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if you skip ahead on Tivo to the launch date , the new Sky Disney Channel already has the programs lisdted, they just haven't changed the channel name yet.

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The specific content in question is available for a price from Blinkbox.

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In my view, the price is too high and it is only available several months after broadcast.

The whole content provision buisness needs a shake up. Internet access has changed the way people view content. Ideally, we could subscribe to the broadcasters content directly or using sevices such as Hulu Plus and HBO GO. But there are so many vested monetry interests tied up in exclusive regional content deals that means the studios are reluctant to change.

It took a while for the music industry to catch on and make legal downloads available, but it seem that the video side hasn't learnt anything form that. Thus piracy is prevelant, partly because people don't have internet based access to legal downloads.

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Except that they do, they just don't want to pay for them.

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March List update again.

Keep up-to-date on the latest news on upcoming channel launches and other important events across all platforms of Virgin TV network.

NOTE: I do not work for Virgin Media so all the information on this list is subject to change.

Colours on my list are as followed:

Media Boy = New Info just added.
Media Boy = Virgin Media News and links.
Media Boy = Other Media news/Things.

=== Coming up on Virgin's Digital TV ===
=== Rumour to be Launching very soon ===
-Animal Planet HD will launch on Virgin Channel 217 on the XL Pack Soon.
-E! Entertainment HD to launch on Virgin Media soon.
-Universal HD to launch on Virgin Media soon.

=== March ===
26th. The BBC will rebrand BBC HD as BBC Two HD on Virgin Channel 187.
28th. Sky Movies Classics to close on Virgin Channel 411 today.
28th. Sky Movies Indies to close on Virgin Channel 412 today.
28th. Sky Movies Classics HD to close on Virgin Channel 441 today.
28th. Sky Movies Indies HD to close on Virgin Channel 442 today.
28th. Disney Cinemagic to close on Virgin Channel 728 today.
28th. Sky Movies Disney to launch on Virgin Channel 407 today.
28th. Sky Movies Select to launch on Virgin Channel 412 today.
28th. Sky Movies Disney HD to launch on Virgin Channel 437 today.
28th. Sky Movies Select HD to launch on Virgin Channel 442 today.
28th. Sky Movies are to rebrand Sky Movies Modern Greats as Sky Movies Greats on Virgin Channel 410 today.
28th. Sky Movies are to rebrand both Sky Movies Modern Greats HD as Sky Movies Greats HD on Virgin Channel 440 today.

=== April ===
No News...

=== May ===
22nd. The Competition Commission will publish its final report by today on the Global Radio & GMG Radio takeover.

=== June ===
No News...

=== By end of June ===
-Liberty Global hope to close the transaction of Virgin Media.

=== July ===
31st. BT will takeover ESPN, ESPN HD and ESPN America on Virgin Channels 529, 530 and 531 from Today.
31st. ESPN to close ESPN Classic on Virgin Channel 533 by Today.

=== Summer ===
-FT.com says BT and Virgin Media are in talks over up to THREE BT Sports Channels launching on Virgin Media.

=== August ===
No News...

=== September ===
No News...

=== October ===
No News...

=== November ===
-Made in Leeds will launch on Virgin Media sometime this month.

=== December ===
No News...

=== By 2015 ===
-RTE Radio and WRN Radio will be axe in old Telewest areas or added to all areas of Virgin Media.

=== Unknown dates ===
-'Seven' will be rebranded as Lincolnshire Living on Virgin Channel 879 (Grimsby & Scunthorpe only).
-I have been told that Virgin Media are in talks with Sky to carry 'Sky Atlantic SD', 'Sky News HD' and 'Sky Sports News HD'.
-Local TV may launch on Virgin TV in some areas in Virgin Channels 600 mark (Starting in Late 2013).
-The BBC to axe BBC Radio 4 LW on Virgin Channel 911 ''in the long term''.
-Discovery to replace Travel and Living with TLC on Virgin Channel 275.
-UKTV on Demand may also launch on Virgin on Demand.
-Channel 4's ''4oD'' will offer HD content.
-Smooth fm (Smooth Radio) may get close or rebranded on Virgin Channel 916.
-Fashion One 'In talks with Virgin Media'.
-Sony Movies may launch soon on Virgin Media.

=== Channels THAT still to appear in all areas ===
List was last updated on December 1st 2010.

NO. Channel Name
917. Radio: RTE Radio
920. Radio: WRN Europe

NOTE: Channels are only broadcasting in Ex-Telewest areas right now.

=== Media Boy Extra info: ===
Media Boy Blog - For all things Virgin TV - http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.com/
See Virgin Media on ''twitter'' here - http://twitter.com/virginmedia
See Nialli's blog on Virgin Media High Definition & TiVo Services here - http://vmhd.blogspot.com/
Latest news on Freeview - http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/10...l#post35353580

=== Ask Media Boy ===
Last updated March 14th 2013.

Q: WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT VIRGIN MEDIA FROM?
A: I get all my info from Virgin Media viewers and Web Sites (NOTE: When I used web sites I will post an link to that web site).

Q: WILL I NEED TO WATCH MY DISNEY CINEMAGIC PROGRAMMES ON MY V+ OR TIVO BOX BY MARCH 27TH?
A: No Virgin Media viewers have until June 28th to watch recorded Disney Cinemagic programmes.

Q: WHY AM I NOT GETTING ''RTE RADIO'' OR ''WRN RADIO'' FOR?
A: RTE Radio and WRN Radio do not broadcast in Ex-ntl and Ex-Cable & Wireless areas - yet.

==== Virgin Media's Deals with broadcasters ===
List last updated on March 19th 2013.

Welcome to the all new look of this part of the list.

When deals with broadcasters run out Virgin Media need to sign new one to keep that Channel on Virgin TV.
Here is an list of channel that Virgin may get when they old deal runs out with that broadcaster:
Also Radio channels are broadcasting on Digital Radio via Freesat, Freeview, Freesat from Sky or Sky.

NOTE: Shopping Channels are not on this list and only Broadcasts who has got some Channels broadcasting on Virgin Media right now appeared on this list. To start broadcasting soon = That channel has still to start broadcasting on Sky, Freesat or Freeview.

=== TV and Radio Channels: ===
=== Own by A+E Networks UK (A&E Television Networks/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Bio. +1
-Crime & Investigation Network HD
-Crime & Investigation Network +1
-HISTORY HD
-HISTORY +1
-Lifetime (May launch in 2013.)

=== Own by ARY Group ===
-ARY Qtv
-ARY Oneworld
-ARY Entertainment

=== Own by BET International Inc (Viacom) ===
-BET: Black Ent Tv
-BET: Black Ent Tv +1

=== Own by British Sky Broadcasting ===
-Pick TV +1
-Sky1 +1
-Sky 3D
-Sky Atlantic
-Sky Atlantic +1
-Sky Atlantic HD
-Sky News HD
-Sky Sports F1 HD
-Sky Sports 3 HD
-Sky Sports 4 HD
-Sky Sports News HD

=== Own by British Telecommunications Plc ===
-BT Sports 1 (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-BT Sports 1 HD (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-BT Sports 2 (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-BT Sports 2 HD (To launch in UK and Ireland in Summer 2013.)
-ESPN America HD (Will be owned by BT from August 1st 2013)
-Sailing 1
-Sailing 2

=== Own by CBS Chellozone UK Channels Partnership ===
-CBS Reality +1
-Horror +1

=== Own by Channel Four Television Corporation ===
-More 4 HD

=== Own by CSC Media Group ===
-Bliss
-BuzMuzik
-Chart Show TV
-Chart Show TV Dance
-Flava
-Kix!
-POP
-Pop Girl
-Pop Girl +1
-Scuzz
-The Vault
-Tiny Pop +1

=== Own by Discovery Networks Western Europe ===
-DMAX +2

=== Own by Disney-ABC Television Group ===
-Disney Channel HD
-Disney Cinemagic HD - Channel to close on March 28th.
-Disney Cinemagic +1 - Channel to close on March 28th.
-Disney Junior +
-Disney Junior HD - Channel to launch in April.
-Disney XD HD

=== Own by Entertainment Networks (UK) Limited (Sony Pictures Television) ===
-More Than Movies
-More Than Movies +1
-Movies 4 Men
-Movies 4 Men +1

=== Own by ESPN Inc. (until July 31st 2013) ===
-ESPN America HD

=== Own by Fox International Channels (News Corporation) ===
-FOX +1

=== Own by Global Radio ===
-Capital FM TV
-Heart FM TV

=== Own by Moving Movies Ltd. (CSC Media Group) ===
-True Entertainment +1
-True Movies 2

=== Own by MTV Networks Europe (Viacom) ===
-MTV CLASSIC
-MTV HD
-MTV LIVE
-MTV MUSIC
-MTV +1

=== Own by Multi Screen Media (Sony Pictures Television) ===
-Sahara One

=== Own by NGC-UK Partnership (National Geographic Society/Fox International Channels) ===
-Nat Wild HD

=== Own by Nickelodeon UK (Viacom)MTV Networks Europe/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Nickelodeon HD
-Nick Jr. +1

=== Own by Paramount UK Partnership (Viacom)Paramount British Pictures/British Sky Broadcasting) ===
-Comedy Central Extra +1

=== Own by Premier Media ===
-Premier Sports
-Premier Sports Xtra

=== Own by RTE ===
-RTE 2fm
-RTE lyric fm
-RTE Radio 1 (Broadcasts in Ex-Telewest areas right now).
-RTE Radio na Gaeltachta

=== Own by Real & Smooth Ltd [Was GMG Radio] (Global Radio) ===
-Real Radio Wales
-Smooth 70s

=== Own by Scripps Networks Interactive ===
-Food Network
-Food Network +1
-Travel Channel
-Travel Channel +1

=== Own by Sony Pictures Television ===
-Sony Entertainment Television +1
-Sony Movie Channel
-Sony Movie Channel +1

=== Own by STAR TV (News Corporation) ===
-STAR Jalsha
-STAR Plus HD

=== Own by Sunrise Radio Group ===
-Kismat Radio
-Punjabi Radio

=== Own by TIML Radio Limited ===
-Absolute 90s

=== Own by United Christian Broadcasters ===
-UCB TV
-UCB Bible
-UCB Gospel
-UCB Inspiration
-UCB Ireland

=== Own by Universal Networks International ===
-E! HD*
-Universal Channel HD*

*ALL CHANNELS OWN BY UNIVERSAL NETWORKS INTERNATIONAL ALL MAY LAUNCH ON VIRIGN MEDIA SOON.

=== Own by Zee Entertainment Enterprises ===
-ZEE Cafe
-Zing

==== See you later ===
List last updated on March 19th 2013.

Next update: April 1st - unless:
A) If Virgin are set to launch more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) on Virgin TV.
B) If Virgin are set to move more than TWO channels (TV or Radio) about on Virgin TV.
C) If Virgin are set to close or repackage more then TWO channels (TV or Radio ) on Virgin TV.

Did I miss anything??? If I did tell me and it will appear on the next update.

©copyright 2013 Media Boy 2006 - 2013. An ''Keep it real and free'' Production.

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My view is this - firstly, access to tele visual content is not a human right. People have lived for thousands of years without it. Secondly, in the same way that troubadours, minstrels, jesters, comics, authors etc have filled those thousands of years, entertainment, and the provision of it is a business and people enter business to make money. You might not like it, you might not like how they run their business, but the fact remains that, for example, hbo have spent money on Game of Thrones, and they have done so to make money. It is their property to do just that with. Just because you want to access that entertainment but have chosen to give your money to a company that doesn't offer it doesn't give you the right to obtain it illegally. Just because you can't wait for it to become available on other platforms doesn't give you the right to obtain it illegally. And just because you have a moral objection to the way they run their business doesn't give you a right to obtain it illegally either.

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But Andy_m - it's not about rights to view illegally, it's about ability. Where there is a will, there is a way. Studios don't need to bend over backwards to please viewers, but they should want to make their products available as widespread as possible and gain the full potential revenue.

How is it that for a measley £10 per month to Spotify I can listen to the latest releases, as well as a huge back catalogue of music? The video industry, TV or movies, needs to adopt this policy at some point. Live broadcast will diminish into a few channels for specific programming that needs to be live, everything else should be available for a fixed rental fee. Who, how, when - who knows, but it will have to happen.

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Does it bother you that some people will obtain it through different means?

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If you mean me, Max Max, then no it doesn't. The world is full of people who will always get the same things without paying for them, whether it be digital media, electrical goods, clothes. Doesn't change how I would like to obtain them. The bigger issue of organised crime, now that's a different matter.

To get back on track, if the cost of digital media is more in line with what the majority of honest people would pay, then more people would pay and not rely on piracy, etc. this has been proven time and time again. Piracy should never be used as an excuse to charge honest people more money.

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Who has suggested that it's right to obtain things illegally? I certainly haven't.

Saying that many people do obtain things illegally, partly because of exclusive contract deals is a different thing completely. But it is a fact.

The record companies eventually learned that enabling legal, subscription based streaming was the way to go. Sadly, the greedy film/TV content providers have still to learn that lesson.

---------- Post added at 17:37 ---------- Previous post was at 17:21 ----------

Very true.

Many of the means are there such as HULU Plus and HBO GO, but are restricted to US residents. The reason is that the studios want to do lucrative deals with non US service providers, who often delay broadcast for months after the US airing. As an example, take the mess channel 5 made of Person Of Interest; they are coming to the end of season 1, whilst the US are coming to the end of season 2.

Whether it's right or wrong, the internet has shrunk the world and people want access to TV shows at the same time. For proof, look at this cable forum thread and note how many discussions on TV shows are around the 'US Timeline'.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/110/

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.
 

Hi Media Boy can you confirm in your March update that Sky Movies Disney will launch on Channel 411/441 because Sky Movies Thriller is on Channel 407/437, thanks.

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HBO Go is like Sky Go, you need a cable/satellite subscription to use it. PoI is most likely delayed because they've went for the cheaper rights like NCIS which they air a year after FOX, it just so happens no-one (yet) has picked up the main rights. That or their scheduling is pants.

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Looks as if you're correct re HBO. I was under the impression that US residents could sign up for a web version. Funnily enough, that does illustrate my point though. I believe that Game of Thrones was the most illegally downloaded TV show. If HBO provided a legitimate web subscription service, that may not have been the case?

With regard to POI, channel 5 stopped after S1E10 for around 3 months. There was no reason to, as all of Season 1 had already been shown in the US. So channel 5 just treated it badly

BTW, one good thing that Sky instigated was showing US drama very close to the US air date. Some other channels have followed their lead but Sky still show some shows quite a bit later, Nikita being an example; I watched the last few episodes of season 2 on US Netflix before Sky had shown the same episodes.

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A great deal from virgin

http://store.virginmedia.com/bundles...part=portal_P1

Well spotted by Cable Forums Bogof.

Half price for 1 year! Same deal I have just now with SKY.

Could Virgin and SKY be trying to lock people down on great deals before BT launches their new TV packages in the summer?

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.
 

im out of contract wish I could have that

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2013) Vol. 1.
 

Maybe call retentions and tell them you've got a 50% friends and family code for SKY however if they could match their own deal for new customers you'd happily sign a new 18 month deal.

I I was out of contract with SKY, I'd well join Virgin again on that deal. Not only are you getting half price, your getting £75 off too! If you take VIP, your first month will be free.

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says only available to new customers in small print grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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There's your chance to come back dear chap and join the great and the good again.:D

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Precisely, so how many Existing customers are they going to lose in a week? So much for being loyal. Guess I'll cancel and re-sign in 5 days.... like they'll allow that i know.:mad:

If I were Virgin I'd be concentrating on keeping as well and introducing new customers to their business.

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BBC Two HD detailed info worth a read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/aboutthebbc/posts/BBC-Two-HD

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hope they have mostly HD on it

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Thannks MM for the link.

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Crime and Thriller replaces Classic on 411/441.

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Oops I did not see that one.

Full list of channels numbers from March 28th now on my blog.

http://mediaboyblog.blogspot.co.uk/2...el-number.html

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I've read with interest over the past few months about people thoughts about sky withholding channels eg sky Atlantic surely now the take up of both sky and virgin of new customers are at saturation point and apart from the few numbers that move between it would now make commercial sense for sky to make channels available to other outlets especially for advertisement revenue

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When there was a carriage dispute over the Sky Basics a few years back the loss of the VM audience hit Sky1's advertisers pretty hard and they were the main instigators of getting Sky back to the table to thrash out a deal. With Sky Atlantic the audiences are pretty small anyway (aside from a few shows like Game of Thrones) so the advertisers probably aren't as vocal.
Whether or not it significantly attracts new customers now I would doubt, but it may prevent some churn of customers leaving for VM or BT Vision.

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The difference was that when sky1 etc left Virgin Media the advertisers had already made the deal to include Virgin Media's customers in the target figures. With Sky Atlantic we have never had it, so advertising revenue would not have come into it.

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VM like to make a noise about something that won't happen or will happen 2 years down the line, probably as a customer retention trick again.

Anyone with common sense knows that VM will not be getting Sky Atlantic any time soon, especially before 2014.

So don't be fooled in to staying with Virgin Media just in case or in the hope they get Sky Atlantic soon. #NotHappening

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Mr Happy then are we:erm:

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My my you do seem obsessed with Virgin Media at the moment.:)

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Can't dispute the simple truths in my post so going for a personal attack diversion? ;)

Predictable and sad!

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There are truths and untruths and then there are some people who are obsessed and consistently hellbent on knocking Virgin Media at every turn and it seems you qualify for that one.:)

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Am very chuffed with all the new channels lately.... Mr Minority that's me! Or am I?

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Yes there has been plenty that has arrived lately and that can only be good for us all as competition hots up in the marketplace.

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We are the same and I know a green day song about us:erm:

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American Idiot? Basket Case? :confused:

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I don't listen to GD but based off a list of their songs I'd guess Minority.

EDIT: or Waiting.

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Guessed that mate, it was a joke, well nearly :(

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I will refrain from posting while I hang my head in shame, more things will probably whoosh over it in the meantime.

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And he has no idea what's happening either whereas there are a number of people who do ;)

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Very true. SKY are not looking for advertising revenue. The below statement suggests SKY see more value in keeping the likes of SKY Atlantic exclusive rather than wholesale it to Virgin and BT.

http://cadm.sky.com/pisa/

"A basic thing to know about Sky is that the majority of our revenue comes from subscription not advertising, which means we don’t need people to watch every minute of every day - but what we do need shows that prompt people to subscribe and keep them with us once they’ve subscribed. So noisy shows that we can promote heavily that people will obsess about."

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ive been reading and watching this forum for a long time so this is my first post on here ive been with vm for years and would never leave vm just want to say why do people moan alot about hd and sky atlantic and want other channels all they do is repeat everything all the time its only tv

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Why would you have a HD tv and only want stations in SD, also Atlantic has many new series. Not bothered about that Game of Thrones right enough, not interested in pixies or elfs and stuff (is that what that shows about?). There is barely any channel now that doesn't repeat stuff. Not moaning, just saying.