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Damien 26-01-2012 10:29
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Demon UK (Post 35369269)
Madrid got it to 2-2 on the night and lost 4-3 over the two legs. Madrid were by far the better team tonight, but more poor refereeing cost them. Ramos was wrongly sent off and they had a perfectly good goal disallowed amongst other decisions.
Madrid were the better team but Barcelona did enough to get the result over the two legs. Ramos was wrongly sent off but that was right at the end whereas Pepe should have been sent off in the first leg and Diarra was pushing his luck as well.

Madrid must be getting depressed they can't beat Barcelona even after playing so well and Barcelona playing poorly.

denphone 26-01-2012 10:31
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35369402)
Dilemma: do I want to see a Welsh club winning the League Cup even though it's Cardiff? I don't want to see the Scousers win it but this is Cardiff we're talking about.
Yes Russ you are in a very difficult position and one hopes you will tell us your decision when you have thought this dilemma through.:erm::D

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 10:39
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35369404)
Well there are several reasons for that like certain owners who are in football for short term financial gains but one of the main reasons is that many clubs live beyond their financial means and pay fees and salarys which they can't really afford to start with but pay out in the hope of bringing success to the club but when this fails then they find that the financial rewards which their plan was based upon then fails totally with it thus they are then left to pick up the financial mess when things go wrong.
Here is a list of owners of Portsmouth F.C.

2006-2009: Alexandre Gaydamak

2009: Sulaiman Al-Fahim

2009-2010: Ali al-Faraj

2010-2012: Balram Chainrai

2012-present: Southampton F.C. :D

Arthurgray50@blu 26-01-2012 10:53
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My personnel feelings on the sad demise of football clubs and new owners taking over clubs, such as Portsmouth.

Its the disgraceful wages that are paid to players, and when owners take over they forget this.

Players may only have short careers especially when the end of with broken legs that sometimes don't heel properly and have to retire early, BUT no players is worth the prices they earn today, and the agent fees cripple clubs.

The FA,the Football League, and the Premier League must place a wage cap on clubs, as players from the lower leagues don't live up to the wages that are paid by clubs and get put on the side.

Players like John Terry who is on £125.000 per week, that could be the entire wage for a club from the lower leagues.

This is why clubs go out of business, and new owners take over clubs to see how much they can get back in about 12 months to see if they can get a massive profit..

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 10:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35369422)
My personnel feelings on the sad demise of football clubs and new owners taking over clubs, such as Portsmouth.

Its the disgraceful wages that are paid to players, and when owners take over they forget this.

Players may only have short careers especially when the end of with broken legs that sometimes don't heel properly and have to retire early, BUT no players is worth the prices they earn today, and the agent fees cripple clubs.

The FA,the Football League, and the Premier League must place a wage cap on clubs, as players from the lower leagues don't live up to the wages that are paid by clubs and get put on the side.

Players like John Terry who is on £125.000 per week, that could be the entire wage for a club from the lower leagues.

This is why clubs go out of business, and new owners take over clubs to see how much they can get back in about 12 months to see if they can get a massive profit..
If there was a UK only wage cap, then our players would be bought by European clubs!

Arthurgray50@blu 26-01-2012 11:33
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Years ago, players were on a decent wage, but now the wages have gone through the roof, and clubs can no longer afford the greed of players, Spurs have a wage cap, and they still produce great players.

This is time of financial problems the fans cannot afford to go to games anymore due to the entrance fee, and this why clubs are suffering financially, like the other day l was watching Birmingham were playing and the ground was half empty.

The heavy prices that we pay for Sky and VM for packages etc mean that clubs do suffer.

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 11:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35369452)
Years ago, players were on a decent wage, but now the wages have gone through the roof, and clubs can no longer afford the greed of players, Spurs have a wage cap, and they still produce great players.

This is time of financial problems the fans cannot afford to go to games anymore due to the entrance fee, and this why clubs are suffering financially, like the other day l was watching Birmingham were playing and the ground was half empty.

The heavy prices that we pay for Sky and VM for packages etc mean that clubs do suffer.
The Big Clubs of England (wiht other Big Clubs in Europe) should leave the Premier League and form a European Super League

Then the Premier and football Leagues would no longer compete with major clubs, and wages and ticket prices to a more sensible level!

Russ 26-01-2012 12:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35369468)
The Big Clubs of England (wiht other Big Clubs in Europe) should leave the Premier League and form a European Super League

Then the Premier and football Leagues would no longer compete with major clubs, and wages and ticket prices to a more sensible level!
Good idea. That way all those smaller clubs that rely on FA Cup games against bigger clubs for valuable tv income just to survive can just shove off and find the money somewhere else. Cheeky blighters.

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 12:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35369523)
Good idea. That way all those smaller clubs that rely on FA Cup games against bigger clubs for valuable tv income just to survive can just shove off and find the money somewhere else. Cheeky blighters.
I was talking about clubs like the Big 6 (Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool), Not clubs like Newcastle, Sunderland, Aston Villa etc

Damien 26-01-2012 13:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35369540)
I was talking about clubs like the Big 6 (Man U, Man City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Tottenham and Liverpool), Not clubs like Newcastle, Sunderland, Aston Villa etc
The big clubs are what brings in the money, especially from International broadcasters, if they left then the rest would lose out. It's why there is a collective bargaining agreement.

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 13:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35369552)
The big clubs are what brings in the money, especially from International broadcasters, if they left then the rest would lose out. It's why there is a collective bargaining agreement.
Yet their presence in the Premierv leagues is the casue of huge wages and financial ruin of most clubs in their battle to compete with the big 6

Russ 26-01-2012 13:31
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So you suggest making it worse?

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 13:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35369584)
So you suggest making it worse?
How bad can it get?

Portsmouth have got bust twice and have has 5 owners in just 4 years!

Imagine how big a diffrence it will make if the old firm left the SPL!

Then smaller teams like Newcastle can have a decent chance at the Premier League without going bust!

denphone 26-01-2012 13:41
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35369587)
How bad can it get?

Portsmouth have got bust twice and have has 5 owners in just 4 years!

Imagine how big a diffrence it will make if the old firm left the SPL!

Then smaller teams like Newcastle can have a decent chance at the Premier League without going bust!
l think you will find that Newcastle are not a small team and have the second biggest crowds in the premiership.

Alan Fry 26-01-2012 13:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35369595)
l think you will find that Newcastle are not a small team and have the second biggest crowds in the premiership.
Sorry Newcastle is a member of the big 7

If the big 7 left the Premier League, then it give a chance to teams like Aston Villa to win the title without going bust

Damien 26-01-2012 13:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35369599)
Sorry Newcastle is a member of the big 7

LOL! Good one. :D

denphone 26-01-2012 14:22
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16631999.stm

Quote:
Queens Park Rangers have completed the signing of Nedum Onuoha from Manchester City on a four-and-half-year contract.

The defender, who played under Mark Hughes when the Welshman was manager of City, moves to Loftus Road for an undisclosed fee.

The 25-year-old spent last season on loan at Sunderland but has found opportunities limited at City.

"Nedum is a player I know well," Hughes told QPR's official website. "He is a very good addition to the squad."

TheDaddy 26-01-2012 15:02
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35369587)
How bad can it get?

Portsmouth have got bust twice and have has 5 owners in just 4 years!

Imagine how big a diffrence it will make if the old firm left the SPL!

Then smaller teams like Newcastle can have a decent chance at the Premier League without going bust!
Errr loads of clubs going to the wall instead of hardly any and besides at least 3 of Pompys owners were Gaydamak and his cronies. So that's trains, airports and football you have no idea about...

adzii_nufc 26-01-2012 15:03
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Yes lets remove the current top 7 in the league and move them into a european super league. The current teams would get so much more money with barely anyone watching the premierleague but rather tuning in to see big teams clash in the other league.

The Premierleague is only the best because of the millions of people around the world tuning in to watch the top clubs :dunce:

I'll think you'll also find Newcastle United are not even remotely close to being bust and are currently sitting in 6th place level on points with Arsenal having barely spent anything in the summer.

thenry 26-01-2012 15:37
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solo goal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKYhg...layer_embedded

denphone 26-01-2012 15:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35369666)
Wow what a wonderful goal.:clap::clap:

sherer 26-01-2012 19:48
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35369422)
My personnel feelings on the sad demise of football clubs and new owners taking over clubs, such as Portsmouth.

Its the disgraceful wages that are paid to players, and when owners take over they forget this.

Players may only have short careers especially when the end of with broken legs that sometimes don't heel properly and have to retire early, BUT no players is worth the prices they earn today, and the agent fees cripple clubs.

The FA,the Football League, and the Premier League must place a wage cap on clubs, as players from the lower leagues don't live up to the wages that are paid by clubs and get put on the side.

Players like John Terry who is on £125.000 per week, that could be the entire wage for a club from the lower leagues.

This is why clubs go out of business, and new owners take over clubs to see how much they can get back in about 12 months to see if they can get a massive profit..
I've said it before and will say it again it is the agent fees that are half the problem. If you add up all the money that pompey have given to agents since 2006 it probably covers the tax bill with room to spare.

Any money paid to agents is money that leaks out of the game and doesn't get reinvested anywhere. If this money stayed in the game and was stopped they ticket prices would be cheaper.

Only in football would you have to pay money to someone else just to talk to them on the phone when the rules state that actually you have to talk to them through the clubs anyway.

It's high time FIFA and UEFA did something about this but the game makes so much money these days I don't think any of them care anymore

Shadow Demon UK 27-01-2012 12:10
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Heres a leaked copy of the Spurs teamsheet from Sunday...

:)

thenry 27-01-2012 13:40
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lol

Jack Wilsheres hit a setback :(

Quote:
"Wilshere had a little setback which is under investigation," Wenger said on Friday. "We don't know yet how bad it is. He has pain again in his ankle (when running).We stopped him right away. He is seeing a specialist today, so I do not want to give you any wrong information."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...uffers-setback

hope players are back on the radar now.

Tim Deegan 27-01-2012 13:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35370275)
lol

Jack Wilsheres hit a setback :(



http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...uffers-setback

hope players are back on the radar now.
Isn't the biggest setback Wenger himself?

thenry 27-01-2012 13:48
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yup

Damien 27-01-2012 13:50
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Arsenal need to do something about the medical department, it's absurd.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35370282)
yup
Yes, of course Wenger is the 'biggest problem'. :rolleyes:

denphone 27-01-2012 13:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35370275)
lol

Jack Wilsheres hit a setback :(



http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...uffers-setback

hope players are back on the radar now.
Well you won't see Wilshere before next season now thenry.

thenry 27-01-2012 13:59
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Though I agree with the medical department being somewhat of a joke, this injury to Jack to me is just unfortunate.

Wengers dealings with transfers, keeping hold of flops, tactics etc. have all come back to bite him. Anyway with regards to being able to sign heads.. he can't because of the wage structure. We have players on huge salaries out on loan no good for the club.. how about that for just 1 problem

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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35370293)
Well you won't see Wilshere before next season now thenry.
if we do it'll be a bonus. it just adds to the history; Tommy, Diaby, Rosicky, Gibbs, Van Persie etc. etc. the list just goes on and on..

denphone 27-01-2012 16:15
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16756100.stm

Quote:
Paris Saint-Germain have completed the £4.2m signing of Alex from Chelsea.

Alex, who is believed to have signed a three-year deal, will link up with his former Blues boss Carlo Ancelotti in the French capital.

The Brazilian, 29, handed in a transfer request after slipping down the pecking order at Stamford Bridge following the arrivals of David Luiz and Gary Cahill.

"He is a great professional," said Ancelotti. "It was a good opportunity given his price."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16752142.stm

Quote:
Managers of Liverpool and Manchester United have urged players to act responsibly during Saturday's FA Cup fourth-round tie at Anfield.

It is the first time the teams have met since Luis Suarez was banned for eight matches for racially abusing Patrice Evra in the 1-1 draw in October.

Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish said: "We have a responsibility to behave."

United counterpart Sir Alex Ferguson added: "We want to make sure we are talking about the game, nothing else."
Quote:
Dalglish also called for the focus to be on events on the pitch.

"Obviously everybody has a responsibility to hold up the name of their respective clubs," he added.

"For us, we want to concentrate on playing football and any other sideshow is purely that - it's just a sideshow

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Liverpool managing director Ian Ayre, meanwhile, wants "rivalry not hatred" with Manchester United.

Ayre said: "We mustn't detract from fans chanting and singing at each other but it needs to be a rivalry thing rather than a hatred thing."

There have been fears that the bitter relationship between the two sets of fans could reach new levels after the Suarez suspension, resulting in an ugly atmosphere at the match
Yes l will echo that and lets hope for a good fair competitive game of football in which we are talking about the football after the game and not about abuse or anything else untoward.

denphone 27-01-2012 19:55
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http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16158109

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Premier League footballer Anton Ferdinand has been sent a bullet in the post ahead of tomorrow's FA Cup match against Chelsea.
The package was received amid the ongoing race row between the QPR defender and Chelsea captain John Terry.

"We are investigating an allegation of malicious communication received today at QPR FC," said the Metropolitan Police in a statement.

Police would not confirm what was in the letter, which arrived at QPR's training ground

Only one word to describe these people and that is whoever sent it is a sick nutter.:shocking::disturbd::(

colin25 27-01-2012 21:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35370516)
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16158109

Only one word to describe these people and that is whoever sent it is a sick nutter.:shocking::disturbd::(
I agree with sick, not nutter, I doubt he is mentally challenge, just morally corrupt, doesn't see difference between right and wrong

i still think my solution is best..castration...stop the jean (gene) pool being polluted...levi's :D

Arthurgray50@blu 27-01-2012 23:02
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I am tonight ashamed to be a Spurs supporter, Watford should be going into the next round of the FA Cup.

We were poor and pathetic and in my view view Defoe and Abibeyor were not on the pitch, l know that Van Der Vart scored the winner, But we were that poor we should have lost, Watford had hit the post so many times, they were more passionate to win, Spurs did not even play well up front, no challenges.

And what made matters worse, Harry sent on Pav with 3 MINUTES TO GO, what could he do in that time.

The entire team should donate the wages for tonight to charity, they were that poor.

Ashamed to be a Spurs - Premier League Championship contenders - on tonight's performance, you are having a laugh.

And l am a Spurs fan for over 30 years.

Cobbydaler 27-01-2012 23:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35370637)
I am tonight ashamed to be a Spurs supporter, Watford should be going into the next round of the FA Cup.

We were poor and pathetic and in my view view Defoe and Abibeyor were not on the pitch, l know that Van Der Vart scored the winner, But we were that poor we should have lost, Watford had hit the post so many times, they were more passionate to win, Spurs did not even play well up front, no challenges.

And what made matters worse, Harry sent on Pav with 3 MINUTES TO GO, what could he do in that time.

The entire team should donate the wages for tonight to charity, they were that poor.

Ashamed to be a Spurs - Premier League Championship contenders - on tonight's performance, you are having a laugh.

And l am a Spurs fan for over 30 years.
You'll remember this then Arthur.

Yes, I am a Saints fan... :D

adzii_nufc 28-01-2012 01:07
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35370637)
I am tonight ashamed to be a Spurs supporter, Watford should be going into the next round of the FA Cup.

We were poor and pathetic and in my view view Defoe and Abibeyor were not on the pitch, l know that Van Der Vart scored the winner, But we were that poor we should have lost, Watford had hit the post so many times, they were more passionate to win, Spurs did not even play well up front, no challenges.

And what made matters worse, Harry sent on Pav with 3 MINUTES TO GO, what could he do in that time.

The entire team should donate the wages for tonight to charity, they were that poor.

Ashamed to be a Spurs - Premier League Championship contenders - on tonight's performance, you are having a laugh.

And l am a Spurs fan for over 30 years.

Eh, A title challenging team is a team who can play poor on the day and still come out the other end with a win. Win draw or get hammered, we went to Stevenage in the FA Cup last year and lost but I'd never say I am ashamed to be a supporter of my football club.

denphone 28-01-2012 13:08
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Yes Daniel Agger 1-0:cleader:

Russ 28-01-2012 13:28
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Park, Park wherever you may be, you eat dogs in your own country, it could be worse, you could be a Scouse, eating rats in your own council house :D

denphone 28-01-2012 14:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35370879)
Park, Park wherever you may be, you eat dogs in your own country, it could be worse, you could be a Scouse, eating rats in your own council house :D
Well that rat Kuyt has decided to make it very hot in the kitchen for Utd.:D

Russ 28-01-2012 14:35
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De Gea's goalkeeping masterclass continues.... :grind:

TheDaddy 28-01-2012 14:35
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Whisper is Carlos Tevez might be heading back to East London until the end of the season...

Russ 28-01-2012 14:37
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I wonder if we could persuade VDS to come out of retirement too :afire:

denphone 28-01-2012 14:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35370925)
De Gea's goalkeeping masterclass continues.... :grind:
If ever there was a clown he is it.:D

Julian 28-01-2012 14:39
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Good game. The Liverpool subs made the dirrerence. Ref had a good game too.

Damien 28-01-2012 14:40
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35370926)
Whisper is Carlos Tevez might be heading back to East London until the end of the season...
Good news for Orient.

Russ 28-01-2012 14:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Julian (Post 35370932)
Good game. The Liverpool subs made the dirrerence. Ref had a good game too.
Other than he bottled sending Maxi off.

denphone 28-01-2012 14:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35370929)
I wonder if we could persuade VDS to come out of retirement too :afire:
Now he was a proper keeper.

sherer 28-01-2012 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35370929)
I wonder if we could persuade VDS to come out of retirement too :afire:
Got to be honest I don't see much difference between VDS and De Gea. In his last few seasons VDS made loads of mistakes, constantly got beat at his near post, didn't have a good command on the 6 yard box and had some dodgy decision making.

Apart from one having a world class name behind him he got away with making a few mistakes.

Lindegaard seems to be the future he's quote solid and seems to know what he is going

Russ 28-01-2012 15:40
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VDS was one of the best shot-stoppers of his time. The problem is we're always looking for the new Schmeicel and keepers like him come just once in a generation. De Gea has been thrown in the deep end and at 21 he looks like a deer caught in the headlights. maybe in 3 or 4 years he'll have more to offer but right now he's a liability.

sherer 28-01-2012 15:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35370971)
VDS was one of the best shot-stoppers of his time. The problem is we're always looking for the new Schmeicel and keepers like him come just once in a generation. De Gea has been thrown in the deep end and at 21 he looks like a deer caught in the headlights. maybe in 3 or 4 years he'll have more to offer but right now he's a liability.
yes VDS was a goodshot stopper but then most keeps are very good at that anyway. He never once spoke to the defence and as I said didn't have great command of the 6 yard box either. He relied too much on punching the ball and more than once punched it to the other team who then scored.

De Gea isn't that bad a shop stopper either but is found wanting in other areas much like VDS was too.

Lindegaard should be the number one now

denphone 28-01-2012 17:02
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9685426.stm

FA Cup 4th round scores

Blackpool1-1Sheffield Wed

Bolton2-1Swansea

Brighton v Newcastle17:15 Live on ESPN

Derby0-2Stoke

Hull0-1Crawley Town

Leicester2-0Swindon

Liverpool2-1Man Utd

Millwall1-1Southampton

QPR0-1Chelsea

Sheffield Utd0-4Birmingham

Stevenage1-0Notts County

West Brom1-2Norwich

thenry 28-01-2012 17:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35371009)
Hull 0-1 Crawley Town
:D

I don't watch my hometown but it does put a smile on my face seeing them climb up the leagues and do well in the FA Cup. Heres hoping Sanchez Watt, Arsenal player on loan here works wonders :angel:

denphone 28-01-2012 17:52
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Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35371040)
:D

I don't watch my hometown but it does put a smile on my face seeing them climb up the leagues and do well in the FA Cup. Heres hoping Sanchez Watt, Arsenal player on loan here works wonders :angel:
Yes its wonderful to see a new team do well after being promoted from the conference and even better to see them cause a shock in the cup as well.

Jameseh 28-01-2012 19:24
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Obviously we let Brighton win because we are so focused on getting on ITV4 next season we can't be pansying about with the FA Cup.

denphone 28-01-2012 20:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jameseh (Post 35371103)
Obviously we let Brighton win because we are so focused on getting on ITV4 next season we can't be pansying about with the FA Cup.
Dear Dear Dear James who are you trying to kid.:D:nono::D

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16777170.stm

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Guinea have kept their Africa Cup of Nations hopes alive after hammering Botswana 6-1 in Franceville.

The Guineans took control after Botswana were reduced to 10 men in the first-half.

Substitute Patrick Motsepe was sent-off after a dangerous tackle on Pascal Feindouno in the 45th minute.

Ibrahima Traore scored from the ensuing free-kick. Sadio Diallo scored twice and there were also goals for Naby Soumah, Abdoul Camara and Mamadou Bah

Damien 29-01-2012 09:37
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2...l-carlos-tevez

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Liverpool have made a remarkable bid to swap Andy Carroll with Carlos Tevez and move on their club-record £35m signing not even a year after signing him from Newcastle United.
LOL!!! Nice try Liverpool.

I hear that has submitted a improved bid by removing Andy Carroll from the deal.

denphone 29-01-2012 09:46
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But the trouble we would be replacing a £35m total misfit with another player who throws the dummy out of the pram on a regular basis and my own opinion is to wait for the right bid to come along for Carroll and then look for a decent out and out goalscorer after that and also as a stopgap we could try to get a decent striker on loan to fill in while we are waiting to get rid of him.

colin25 29-01-2012 10:55
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I heard they are now trying for demba ba

denphone 29-01-2012 11:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35371349)
I heard they are now trying for demba ba
Yes he would be a decent signing.

denphone 29-01-2012 14:24
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16772788.stm

Quote:
Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson backed goalkeeper David de Gea despite the 2-1 FA Cup fourth-round defeat by Liverpool at Anfield.

De Gea, recalled in place of Anders Lindegaard for the fourth-round tie, hesitated to claim Steven Gerrard's first-half corner, allowing Daniel Agger to head into an unguarded net.

United's Ji Sung-Park levelled before Dirk Kuyt struck a last-gasp winner.

"Our own players created a problem for the first goal," said Ferguson.

"They didn't give him [De Gea] enough room to deal with it."

colin25 29-01-2012 14:41
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I'm not convinced..still think de gea looks fragile.

Needs to eat more wheatabix or porridge :D

Hom3r 29-01-2012 14:43
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
For Spurs fans :D

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denphone 29-01-2012 14:45
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35371483)
I'm not convinced..still think de gea looks fragile.

Needs to eat more wheatabix or porridge :D
Well Beefy would say that he needs 3 shredded wheat.:D

thenry 29-01-2012 15:47
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
FA Cup Fifth Round draw

Liverpool v Brighton and Hove Albion
Everton v Blackpool or Sheffield Wednesday
Chelsea v Birmingham City
Crawley Town v Stoke City
Stevenage v Tottenham Hotspur
Norwich City v Leicester City
Sunderland or Middlesbrough v Arsenal or Aston Villa
Millwall or Southampton v Bolton Wanderers

:rolleyes:

Damien 29-01-2012 15:54
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Meh. Was hoping Liverpool would draw Everton, Spurs draw Chelsea and us Crawley Town at home.

thenry 29-01-2012 16:00
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
that would of done nicely :)

denphone 29-01-2012 16:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Very pleased with our draw and here comes the quarter finals.:D

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Typical Arsenal 2-0 down.:)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371524)
Meh. Was hoping Liverpool would draw Everton, Spurs draw Chelsea and us Crawley Town at home.
Well they are heading out l am afraid.

thenry 29-01-2012 16:51
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
same ol'd

denphone 29-01-2012 16:52
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35371570)
same ol'd
They cannot defend to save their lives.:td:

thenry 29-01-2012 16:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
best way of defending is attack but we fold doing that so the opposition pick us off.. its soo simple figuring us out its beyond a joke now.

Damien 29-01-2012 16:55
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Didn't fancy a trip to Sunderland anyway.

denphone 29-01-2012 16:58
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371575)
Didn't fancy a trip to Sunderland anyway.
Well somethings going to give in a minute and its not if but when.

Damien 29-01-2012 16:59
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I just want write the season off and go into the summer.

denphone 29-01-2012 16:59
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35371574)
best way of defending is attack but we fold doing that so the opposition pick us off.. its soo simple figuring us out its beyond a joke now.
Too much pretty boy football and not enough steel and spine.

DocDutch 29-01-2012 17:09
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371580)
I just want write the season off and go into the summer.
Thought we done that for last season as well. Don't know what is wrong in the mentality of the players but something just isn't going right for us.

And biggest problem is that wenger who i always have supported as a manager is losing the trust of the fans and won't do anything about that either what he needs to do is grab a clear goal poacher and play less attractive football.

Damien 29-01-2012 17:16
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
1 - 2 now. Dunne somehow not sent off. More awful referring.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 35371587)
And biggest problem is that wenger who i always have supported as a manager is losing the trust of the fans and won't do anything about that either what he needs to do is grab a clear goal poacher and play less attractive football.
Fans are fickle. He was the big man against when we started to pick up form from October to December. Fans had rewritten the narrative to suggest it was the media who were against him and the fans always behind him. Now they want him out. If we end the season well no doubt all the same fans will be claiming credit for backing Wenger like loyal fans.

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2 - 2

denphone 29-01-2012 17:21
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
This is a wonderful second half because Arsenal are now 3-2 up.

thenry 29-01-2012 17:22
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371591)
Fans are fickle. He was the big man against when we started to pick up form from October to December. Fans had rewritten the narrative to suggest it was the media who were against him and the fans always behind him. Now they want him out. If we end the season well no doubt all the same fans will be claiming credit for backing Wenger like loyal fans.
not all fans, well not me. we need proper change in more areas than one. if Wenger doesn't rectify it then we deffo need David Dein back. If the board are too stubborn and wont support this club.. which will the case as making the decision to bring back Dein will be in the interest of the club not pleasing the figure heads around the place. anyway long story short if its not properly sorted out this summer then he can go, his family want out of England anyway.

Damien 29-01-2012 17:56
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
3 - 2. Haha and the disloyal mugs who left the stadium early.

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Anyway, long way to go yet but at least we fighting for it now.

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Wooo awesome come back! Sagna is back as well! Let's keep that 2nd half performance for the entire season and we can salvage something.

thenry 29-01-2012 18:10
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371606)
Wooo awesome come back! Sagna is back as well! Let's keep that 2nd half performance for the entire season and we can salvage something.
how many times have we said that? its Wenger and his stubborn ways suffocating this club.. carrying this and improving wont happen because he wants the squad to pass the ball into an early grave and it takes us to concede goals for him to change.. pathetic. we need David Dein back so badly.. for an all round happy ending he needs to be reinstated.

colin25 29-01-2012 18:17
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
It looked like Arsenal wanted it more 2nd half...the tempo and passing was quicker

denphone 29-01-2012 18:36
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371606)
3 - 2. Haha and the disloyal mugs who left the stadium early.

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Anyway, long way to go yet but at least we fighting for it now.

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Wooo awesome come back! Sagna is back as well! Let's keep that 2nd half performance for the entire season and we can salvage something.
A Europa League spot maybe.:D

Damien 29-01-2012 18:38
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by thenry (Post 35371643)
how many times have we said that? its Wenger and his stubborn ways suffocating this club.. carrying this and improving wont happen because he wants the squad to pass the ball into an early grave and it takes us to concede goals for him to change.. pathetic. we need David Dein back so badly.. for an all round happy ending he needs to be reinstated.
We didn't change. The won the second half because we played like we used to play. Precise, quick, passing. It wasn't pathetic at all. Wenger deserves more respect than the likes of you and those fans chanting abuse at him today give him.

thenry 29-01-2012 19:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damien (Post 35371667)
We didn't change. The won the second half because we played like we used to play. Precise, quick, passing. It wasn't pathetic at all. Wenger deserves more respect than the likes of you and those fans chanting abuse at him today give him.
The squad is deployed in pathetic fashion. It hasnt happened just once. I dont chant abuse but i do have a strong opinion. 1 similar to the greats at Arsenal and men in the know at Arsenal. I wont blindly support this club blowing smoke so the current crap can carry on.

Arthurgray50@blu 29-01-2012 19:43
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Fans of today pay a great deal of money to watch clubs play, l used to travel home and away with Spurs for years and it cost me a fortune.

I always remember going to see Spurs play Hearts in Edinburgh once in a friendly, and there was only 20 fans that went up to Scotland.

Fans expect results from the club and if they don't get it, then they are entitled to criticise there team.

Spurs may have Stevenage in the next round, BUT we always struggle against lower league teams. I can remember when - l think Doncaster Rovers played us in the cup many years ago in the days of John Duncan, and they went two up in the first half.

It was after a rollicking in the second half that we came back and won 3-2.

Fans pay so much money to get into grounds today.

colin25 29-01-2012 20:07
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthurgray50@blu (Post 35371720)
Fans of today pay a great deal of money to watch clubs play, l used to travel home and away with Spurs for years and it cost me a fortune.

I always remember going to see Spurs play Hearts in Edinburgh once in a friendly, and there was only 20 fans that went up to Scotland.



Fans pay so much money to get into grounds today.
I'm sorry you paid and travelled to see Hearts...I live here, and am a fan...but won't even do that these days :D

Cobbydaler 29-01-2012 20:18
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ (Post 35370929)
I wonder if we could persuade VDS to come out of retirement too :afire:
Maybe you should call Barthez & persuade him not to sell his Manchester pad... :D

iadom 29-01-2012 22:33
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by colin25 (Post 35371648)
It looked like Arsenal wanted it more 2nd half...the tempo and passing was quicker

Or perhaps they got the 'Sèche-cheveux traitement' :D

MalteseFalcon 29-01-2012 23:19
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
The actions of the Arsenal fans today is precisely why I stopped following them as my main team. Fans are so fickle now, everything is measured in terms of how much silverware a team has.

Fans of clubs like Swansea are perfectly happy with their team this season, they are not at risk of relegation atm, yet not challenging for the league or any cups. Yet are their fans calling for Brendan Rodgers to be sacked?

Football has become such a mercenary sport now, it is nothing like how it was when I watched my first match at the age of 4 at Highbury. Fans cheered their side even if they were losing, and the board didn't change their manager every 6 months either.

Now, if Arsenal were down the bottom and struggling to maintain their top flight status, then yes the fans are entitled to boo the team, and demand a change in manager. But Arsenal will come good again, I'm sure they will.

I hope they will.

On a positive note, I'm pleased with Stevenage getting Tottenham at home, down to the stadium tomorrow to see if I can get a ticket for the match. Well worth spending money that is. Although I might get thrown out as I can get rather vocal watching football. Let's just say no swear word is left unsaid lol.

Pop quiz now:

Which player, if money was no object, would you sign for your team and why?

Cobbydaler 29-01-2012 23:27
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35371843)
The actions of the Arsenal fans today is precisely why I stopped following them as my main team. Fans are so fickle now, everything is measured in terms of how much silverware a team has.

Fans of clubs like Swansea are perfectly happy with their team this season, they are not at risk of relegation atm, yet not challenging for the league or any cups. Yet are their fans calling for Brendan Rodgers to be sacked?

Football has become such a mercenary sport now, it is nothing like how it was when I watched my first match at the age of 4 at Highbury. Fans cheered their side even if they were losing, and the board didn't change their manager every 6 months either.

Now, if Arsenal were down the bottom and struggling to maintain their top flight status, then yes the fans are entitled to boo the team, and demand a change in manager. But Arsenal will come good again, I'm sure they will.

I hope they will.

On a positive note, I'm pleased with Stevenage getting Tottenham at home, down to the stadium tomorrow to see if I can get a ticket for the match. Well worth spending money that is. Although I might get thrown out as I can get rather vocal watching football. Let's just say no swear word is left unsaid lol.

Pop quiz now:

Which player, if money was no object, would you sign for your team and why?
Messi, do I really need to give a reason? :D

MalteseFalcon 29-01-2012 23:34
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
No, I think I would have Messi for Wimbledon or Stevenage.

colin25 30-01-2012 05:57
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkC1984 (Post 35371843)
The actions of the Arsenal fans today is precisely why I stopped following them as my main team. Fans are so fickle now, everything is measured in terms of how much silverware a team has.
....
Pop quiz now:

Which player, if money was no object, would you sign for your team and why?
I think cost as well, and wages. Fans pay a lot these days, and players get so much more. I'm guessing in old days, cost wasn't so much of a person's wage, and players played for love of game...and ran their heart out, now..they want to roll on the ground and get the oscar for best acting

My player?..GOD..though if unavailable, messi would do :D

Arthurgray50@blu 30-01-2012 10:20
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Colin25, it was nice in Edinburgh, we were look after very well by the Hearts fans and taken to the club house.

It was a very good night and well look after. And we got the train home at 11.00 (well blotted hic hic).

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Its about time Arsenal got rid of Wenger, and coming from a Spurs fans that hard to say.

Arsenal will not win anything now under him, he is passed his sell by date, Arsenal used to be a big club and always challenging for top honours, but not anymore, and signing Henry on loan is a big mistake, he won't be able to produce the goods anymore and Walcott, a great piece of talent, but needs a fresh start to kick start himself - the reporter said he has not scored for 10 games, that is poor.

denphone 30-01-2012 10:28
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16784620.stm

Quote:
Aston Villa manager Alex McLeish has called on the Football Association to investigate an alleged elbow from Arsenal's Robin van Persie after Villa were knocked out of the FA Cup.

McLeish felt the Arsenal captain caught defender Carlos Cuellar as they jumped for a high ball in the 64th minute.

"It was a clear elbow. Would I like the FA to look at it? Yes," said McLeish
Quote:
Returning to the alleged elbow incident, McLeish added: "Look at my nose, it is a result of elbows all my career. It is something which is dangerous.




"But the referee did not seem to think there was anything in it. I never mentioned it to the referee. I saw it in real time

Alan Fry 30-01-2012 10:54
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Liverpool want to take Tevez on loan

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tran...cle859210.html

denphone 30-01-2012 10:59
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Fry (Post 35371999)
Liverpool want to take Tevez on loan

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/tran...cle859210.html
No thanks l don't want that crybaby.

Arthurgray50@blu 30-01-2012 11:01
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
I have to agree with Alec McLiesh, The officials have to look more carefully at incidents on the pitch rather than there make up.

Look at the penalty that Chelsea, it was never a penalty more like a dive, referee's have to be consistent with the game, elbows in the face behind the refs face and the linos have to be more look at incidents, like off the ball jobs.

The FA are farcical in this manner and order officials to be more efficient in the games, and the stamping which is increasing especially from foreign players.

I gave up reffing for the simple fact that the FA do not care what goes on the pitch and are farcical, they are quick enough to punish managers for comments, but not the player.

Alan Fry 30-01-2012 11:01
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by denphone (Post 35372010)
No thanks l don't want that crybaby.
Which Football club would want him then?

denphone 30-01-2012 11:30
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16783119.stm

Quote:
Everton have opened talks with Rangers in a bid to sign Nikica Jelavic before the transfer window closes on Tuesday.

West Ham had a £7m offer for the 26-year-old Croatian international striker rejected - now Everton boss David Moyes has made his move.

Rangers are understood to want £8m for Jelavic, who missed Saturday's 4-0 win against Hibernian because of illness

Everton have a limited transfer budget but sold Diniyar Bilyaletdinov to Spartak Moscow for £5m.

However, the Toffees are unlikely to meet Rangers' full asking price for Jelavic.

Talks are ongoing in an attempt to agree a deal, with Everton hoping Rangers may drop the price to what the Goodison Park club will regard as a more realistic valuation.


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16721393.stm

Quote:
Genk midfielder Kevin de Bruyne will undergo a medical at Chelsea ahead of his proposed move to Stamford Bridge.

The 20-year-old, who came through the ranks at the Belgian champions, made his debut in 2009 and won a first full cap for Belgium in August 2010.

Andre Villas-Boas had said Chelsea's reported £6.7m bid for the Belgian midfielder was down to "club policy."

Genk have confirmed de Bruyne, who scored five goals last season, will undergo a medical on Monday.

De Bruyne is expected to be loaned back to Genk if he completes his move before the transfer window closes.

Chelsea manager Villas-Boas said: "He's a player the club has scouted for some time. I'm a manager who respects club policy

Uncle Peter 30-01-2012 13:12
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
Tevez's agent must be running out of journos to ring. The Daily Sport has gone now lad but there's always the Metro I suppose.

denphone 31-01-2012 06:28
Re: Football Season 2011/12
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16783436.stm

Quote:
Queens Park Rangers are closing in on a £4m deal for Lazio's French striker Djibril Cisse after securing Nancy's Mali midfielder Samba Diakite on loan.

The Premier League side have already agreed personal terms with former Liverpool and Sunderland player Cisse


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